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Armand de Leyendecker

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binkloves

We built this country with you on our backs.

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lolitamadeo

this episode having claudia say the reason she killed lestat & not louis was bc lestat was so strong willed he wld never obey her & louis is weak & pathetic & would follow her when thruout s1 claudia witnessed louis getting violently beat & abused & mistreated by lestat while they were both victims of his abuse when claudia was in louis head while he was disassociating during lestats marital rape of him & she wanted to kill lestat to free them BOTH is heinous & disgusting in ways i cant even articulate. what the fuck were they thinking?

mood for today

im honestly still not over this like a room full of nonblack people wrote claudia calling louis nappy-headed and telling him that etched in his ribs was the proof that he's a slave. something so horrifically anti-black because of its implications that louis being a slave is genetic and interwoven with his dna. that's literally a white supremacist talking point. they had claudia, a black person with a white lover, mock louis for being a black person with a white lover, and say that lestat was her actual blood relative after rejecting his blood in s2, acknowledging that it wasn't good enough for madeleine.

rolin truly said this and believed it to be true, and that should be enough for everyone to know what kind of person he is:

they had claudia refer to her life as not only bleak, but specifically bleak and black. a character who was never ashamed of her blackness. they had her say that she hates louis more than her rapist, abuser, and the people that orchestrated her lynching and burned her lover alive. they completely destroyed her character and killed two birds with one stone, butchering who claudia always was/how she saw louis and lestat, and throwing in more insults and hate at louis while mostly ignoring lestat.

and making it so that claudia is suffering endlessly, even in death, felt like another purposeful story choice. not to make claudia's character even more heartbreaking, either. it was pointless no matter how you look at it. this just felt like yet another way to torture a black character, and a black character that has been repeatedly exploited all season for everyone else's feelings. furthermore, summoning claudia had no effect on louis and lestat at all, as they were immediately over it by the next scene.

none of the heavy storybeats can have any emotional impact because both us and the characters are never given time to absorb them. they're just checking boxes with these heavy moments and moving onto the next scene. and all of this is, again, so we can absolve lestat of his wrongdoings and ensure no blame falls on him. his trauma is the only important thing in the show and the only thing worth discussing/unpacking. it's just antiblack, misogynistic writing again and again every week and rehashing it feels pointless but i can't help myself.

aside from the blatant racism and misogynoir, i also get the impression that these writers are just trying to get their quoteable, hashtag-able, gif-worthy scenes each episode. who needs a cohesive plot when you can have lestat say "serving cunt has its consequences" or give the viewers an iconic shot of their favorite ship that feels entirely unearned—one of my examples of this being the fact that devils minion feels like they just put together a bunch of shots that they thought people would love, without actually telling a story with these two characters. everything we learn of their history and relationship is given to us through exposition. and because assad is such a fantastic actor, he's making these scraps into something interesting.

the showrunners are no longer pretending to be subtle with their sloppy writing, poor pacing, and hatred towards louis and claudia. they're just writing the racism right into the script and think that, because a black character says it, they're free from all criticism. and a majority of their nonblack fans are jumping to defend them by saying that claudia's rage is justified and if you claim otherwise (even if you're not saying that) then you can't accept black characters being cruel and/or evil. which isn't true at all.

claudia's rage is entirely justified, her berating the two people that were supposed to love her and put her first but instead used both her life and death for their own gain is not the issue here. she could've been as cruel as she wanted—but having her say a slew of horribly racist things to louis and direct most of her ire towards him as opposed to lestat or the both of them equally was nothing more than these antiblack writers once again degrading louis for their own enjoyment because they hate his character and know they can get away with dragging him through the mud. especially if they hide behind another black character.

even the decapitation at the end felt like a quick moment of shock to the viewer that turned comical immediately after. the abysmal pacing of this show makes it so that loustat being beheaded has no actual weight because we know they're fine and we're given no opportunity to sit with this moment. there are no stakes and there was no real buildup to it. nor to armand and daniel coming up with this plan and suddenly working together the way they are. in fact after the dust settled, id say the scene was borderline cartoonishly evil.

these writers will never face the backlash that they deserve for this joke of a season. not only does this show not deserve to be renewed, but i sincerely hope that jacob, delainey and assad are (aside from being able to talk about it privately in some way) one day able to publicly talk about the racist/misogynistic bullshit that they had to endure this season all in the name of propping up a white character and furthering a bullshit narrative.

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randumbkatt

thing i gave up on

nyantara

things that would exist if intellectual property wasn't a thing

so much cheap generic medication. reverse engineering compounds would be even more financially profitable.

fewer people dead of vaccine preventable illnesses in the global south bc the greatest barrier to distributing some vaccines like hpv is their ip

plant seeds and grafts that come from the plants instead of licensing them. don't invest so much in preventing cross contamination. more localised experimental breeding.

library of the world: every book and journal article in the world could be digitised and be searchable for every person in the world to read regardless of where they live. cheap reprint runs and local translations everywhere.

an online interface where every citation could actually lead to the text in question

freedom from the hell that is DRM software

everytime someone reverse engineered your shitty proprietary software we would all be freed from it instead of them getting DMCA'd

so much hardware would be opened up & therefore made so much cooler.

so many more songs that riff off and sample and interpolate shit from this decade instead of like 70 years ago and more analysis of music that didn't keep getting nuked off the internet

preserving movies and tv shows and games as long as someone, somewhere has the desire to host them

just go publish your fanfic/art/vid as is instead of all us pretending it isn't fanwork or begging the corporation for mercy / licensing

a world without ip lawyers. im getting chills just imagining it.

nocakeno

#there cant simply be no more IP we need acrive anti-IP enforcement #or else companies will still enforce various paywalls and implement DRM a bit differently on their own #same w medical formulas and tech we need active anti-patent anti-privatization enforcement or theyll find a way to withhold it for profit #IP laws are one of the tools of capitalism and colonialism #when increasing capital is the way the entire system works and benefits them #they will always find a way even if you get rid of IP #this isnt to say its useless this IS to say be more anti-IP now and then keep aiming higher

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nyantara

this is true, but right now to break DRM is super mega illegal and setting up shadow libraries sends you to jail, for life. people who hack video games get sent to jail. reverse engineering is illegal as fuck.

if we enforced anti privatisation that would look like forced licensing by nation states, like you discovered a drug? now make the formula and its manufacture public. its much more complicated. simply abolishing the threat of IP litigation protects the people who make the ongoing IP regime bearable and encourage more people to be involved in efforts to liberate intellectual property secrets.

iamanewvagina101

what r ur kinks

I'm consumed by grief

tiredopinions

It’s incredible that people are so invested in tamping down criticism of this season, particularly from Louis fans, that they will lie about basic things like claiming that all the writers have remained the same from season 1 to season 3.

Since apparently we are the only fans left with the ability to verify any type of information, here are the facts:

S1 Credits:

1x01 - Rolin Jones

1x02 - Jonathan Ceniceroz & Dave Harris

1x03 - Rolin Jones & Hannah Moscovitch

1x04 - Eleanor Burgess

1x05 - Hannah Moscovitch

1x06 - Coline Abert

1x07 - Rolin Jones & Ben Philippe

S2 Credits:

2x01: Hannah Moscovitch

2x02: Jonathan Ceniceroz & Shane Munson

2x03: Heather Bellson

2x04: Coline Abert & A. Zell Williams

2x05: Jonathan Ceniceroz & Hannah Moscovitch

2x06: Hannah Moscovitch & Shane Munson

2x07: Kevin Hanna & Rolin Jones

2x08: Rolin Jones

Hannah, Rolin, Coline, and Jonathan were retained from S1 - 2. Eleanor, Ben, and Dave did not return. The first season had 7 writers. The second had 8.

3x01: Rolin Jones & Hannah Moscovitch

3x02: Jonathan Ceniceroz & Kevin Hanna

3x03: Anusree Roy

3x04: Jonathan Ceniceroz

3x05: Hannah Moscovitch & Daniel Hart

3x06: Ryan Kattner & Kevin Hanna

3x07: Hannah Moscovitch

Hannah, Rolin, Kevin, and Jonathan returned for season 3. Heather, Coline, A. Zell, and Shane did not. This season has 7 writers. Of these 7, the only 3 that remain of the season 1 writers room are Rolin, Hannah, and Jonathan.

You can definitely say the writers who have been retained from season 1 to season 3 are the strongest writers if you want to. I absolutely think that Jonathan and Hannah are two of the strongest writers. I can’t say Rolin is my favorite. But they definitely lost a lot of wonderful writers season to season and I think that is very much felt.

This isn’t even putting into perspective the reality of a writer’s room and what each person might bring to the table regardless of whether or not they get an actual writing credit for it.

tiredopinions

Guys, I thought I was making a joke earlier when I said it should be illegal for more than 2 white straight men to be in a writer’s room but honestly I think that there was only 1 (Rolin) in the season 1 writer’s room and 2 (Rolin and Kevin) in the S2 writer’s room. Now there are 3 🤣

tiredopinions

I think it should be noted that Shane and Coline are both women. Coline Abert is noted on IMDb as a bilingual French-English screenwriter. So if you note a difference in quality of the French writing this season, maybe that is a contributor to it. I wouldn’t know.

As I said in the comments - Ben Philippe, Dave Harris, and A. Zell Williams were the Black writers who wrote for S1-2. @coldeveryseason shouted them out on Twitter.

kutputli

I've seen some weird defences of the IWTV writers room couching in 'erasing the contributions of the non-white writers' type arguments and I just want to use this helpful breakdown of the writers to take it a bit further.

I also want to start off referencing a quote that screenwriter-director Nida Manzoor made where she talked about being in white-dominated writers rooms where she felt she was there to just sign-off on what they were writing. And what a difference it was when she was able to set up her own writers room, especially in season 2 of We Are Lady Parts, where every writer was a Muslim woman.

If you're not familiar with how writers rooms work, you might think every episode is created by the person credited with the script. (Flashback to the Buffy fandom where Marti Nixon was blamed for every single thing in the Joss Whedon is God days.) But the whole point of a writers room is that everyone breaks the episode beats together, and it is headed by the showrunners.

Now let's look at the racial breakdown of that IWTV writers room again

1x01 - Rolin Jones (white)

1x02 - Jonathan Ceniceroz & Dave Harris (Latino and Black)

1x03 - Rolin Jones & Hannah Moscovitch (white and white)

1x04 - Eleanor Burgess (white)

1x05 - Hannah Moscovitch (white)

1x06 - Coline Abert (white)

1x07 - Rolin Jones & Ben Philippe (white and Black)

2x01: Hannah Moscovitch (white)

2x02: Jonathan Ceniceroz & Shane Munson (Latino and white)

2x03: Heather Bellson (white)

2x04: Coline Abert & A. Zell Williams (white and Black)

2x05: Jonathan Ceniceroz & Hannah Moscovitch (Latino and white)

2x06: Hannah Moscovitch & Shane Munson (white and white)

2x07: Kevin Hanna & Rolin Jones (white and white)

2x08: Rolin Jones (white)

3x01: Rolin Jones & Hannah Moscovitch (white and white)

3x02: Jonathan Ceniceroz & Kevin Hanna (Latino and white)

3x03: Anusree Roy (Indian-Canadian)

3x04: Jonathan Ceniceroz (Latino)

3x05: Hannah Moscovitch & Daniel Hart (white and white)

3x06: Ryan Kattner & Kevin Hanna (Wasian and white)

3x07: Hannah Moscovitch (white)

So - not a single Black writer has been given solo credit on any episode. None of them have ever made it beyond one season into a writers room. Of the non-Black writers of colour, Jonathan Ceniceroz is the only one who has written for all 3 seasons, and he only got solo credit for one episode this season. Anusree Roy being the only other non-white writer to get a solo credit. Ryan Kattner probably contributed most to song lyrics, since he's a musician who is also acting in the show.

The show runners and producers are all white.

This is a white-dominated writers room, and this is a show where white writers set the tone of how race and racism will be addressed in the scripts. And if you have followed some of the things Hannah and Rolin have said in interviews, you should know that neither is to be trusted when it comes to racial awareness.

crazykuroneko

These are such great information.

Just want to add: even though A. Zell Williams wasn't credited in Season 1, he was part of the mini room (a smaller writers' room format so the network can have a draft of a first season without spending that much money prior the series being greenlit. This practice was erased after the WGA strike in 2023) for that season. He said this on his podcast. He was then promoted for S2.

Ben was also story editor for S1

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loumandaniel

when iwtv s3 asks me to embrace 2026 and concert venues, but all i want is to be back in that concrete dubai penthouse prison with the dubai trio again

loumandaniel

yea :(

#this line felt like a mockery. I Do miss it #iwtv

vorreitenertiqui

AUTUMN: In this season, Rolin and the writers have talked about, you know, due to creative and budgetary reasons, they can't do all the scenes from the 18th century within the 18th century. So they're moving those plot lines and character journeys into the present day. And I really think that–

ASSAD: If there's anything you don't like or you're confused by, just call it creative and budgetary reasons! That's the party line.

AUTUMN: Well, so here's the thing, too: I think this season really do have to rewatch and you do have to hold out for– Because I'm learning so much upon all of these rewatches where I'm like, wait a second.

ASSAD: [...] I think structurally it's such a... I'd be really interested, and I know that this isn't me interviewing you, but actually I'm way more interested in hearing how you and also the rest of the audience are navigating this new almost– Because I– I was having sort of um, peaks and troughs of going on a journey myself as I was reading the scripts. And trying to um, reconcile with this form, and how it was so different but also um, taking on a new voice that this was the only way that– this was the perfect way to sort of take it. I was struggling with understanding where we were and where the crux of the story was going to land. [...] But I um. Yeah, I went on a journey. I went on a real journey with this season... as an audience member trying to understand it. Trying to... get into the same rhythm. How has it been for you, this rhythm? Have you...

AUTUMN: No, it's been very very different from my previous two experiences. I'm really glad that I'm not doing my weekly reaction videos because how I'm feeling immediately after watching episodes is very very very different to how I feel now after like immediately re-watching it then and there, and then also rewatching it with the context of the episodes that I have now, which of course I still don't have episode seven but um, there's so many moments from episodes one, two, three and four that make a lot more sense once you reach, up to episode six and everything.

ASSAD: Yeah, but this is it, and one of the things that I found fascinating and I think is really genius is the fact that you're made to feel such– I felt so strongly, for and against some of these things that were happening early on, but they are then revisited later on and acknowledged and completely recontextualized... which I found really fascinating, because I was like, what? why am I going on a bipolar journey here? Sometimes I'm devastated and then other times I'm looking back on that and going, why was I so devastated or... I don't know. But it kind of tracks with Lestat. Lestat is this amalgamation of so much emotion and instinct and performance and chaos and all of that stuff. And I think we should be feeling that as well! We shouldn't be like, you know; Louis was beautifully classy, and beautifully put. His story was beautifully put together and understood with the help of Molloy, because he let Molloy in and helped him navigate and understand the story, so we went on that journey together. Whereas here it's like Molloy is trying but Lestat is like, "Fuck you, I'm gonna tell this my way and I'm not going to tell it in any order that makes sense to you. I'm going to tell it how I feel at the time and I might go back and revisit something that seemed inconsequential to you, but I've just realised something about that thing so I'm going to look at that again. By the way, I'm going to go for a shit, and then I'll come back and tell you some more." and we're all like, "W-What...? Okay..."

AUTUMN: Trying to keep up with it all!

ASSAD: Yeah.

(Source: 00:10:55)

#i wonder when they'll be allowed to straightforwardly say that they hate it #iwtv

youngadultread

“Teachers are often unaware of the gender distribution of talk in their classrooms. They usually consider that they give equal amounts of attention to girls and boys, and it is only when they make a tape recording that they realize that boys are dominating the interactions. Dale Spender, an Australian feminist who has been a strong advocate of female rights in this area, noted that teachers who tried to restore the balance by deliberately ‘favouring’ the girls were astounded to find that despite their efforts they continued to devote more time to the boys in their classrooms. Another study reported that a male science teacher who managed to create an atmosphere in which girls and boys contributed more equally to discussion felt that he was devoting 90 per cent of his attention to the girls. And so did his male pupils. They complained vociferously that the girls were getting too much talking time. In other public contexts, too, such as seminars and debates, when women and men are deliberately given an equal amount of the highly valued talking time, there is often a perception that they are getting more than their fair share. Dale Spender explains this as follows: “The talkativeness of women has been gauged in comparison not with men but with silence. Women have not been judged on the grounds of whether they talk more than men, but of whether they talk more than silent women.” In other words, if women talk at all, this may be perceived as ‘too much’ by men who expect them to provide a silent, decorative background in many social contexts.”

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PBS: Language as Prejudice - Myth #6: Women Talk Too Much (via misandry-mermaid)

Every EVERY women’s studies class I’ve been in has had this problem and failed to address it.

(via iamayoungfeminist)

this month has been going for a billion years and it will never end