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does anyone remember the amc show interview with the vampire? one of the greatest things television gave us in its era. heartbreaking that it ended after two seasons when those characters were so beautifully crafted. i really wish we could’ve had more.
I fucking knew it.
"According to showrunner Rolin Jones, the season was also intended to end with that Akasha-awakening concert, but during production the decision was made to postpone that sequence."
The Lestat cast and creator discuss the finale's biggest moments and what could be in store for a potential Season 4.
The Merrick Rant
I said I was going to stop, but this was already ready to go, because I've been mad ever since I saw Merrick in one of the trailers:
My issue with the character of Merrick Mayfair and the plot of the book Merrick being in The Vampire Lestat is that it is 1. using a convenient plot device in the most useless possible way you could use it, and 2. speedrunning the story arcs of some of your core characters because you have no good ideas.
I know a lot about the character of Merrick. I know the show doesn't know a lot about the character of Merrick; I know what the show knows about Merrick is that she does a séance to bring back Claudia's ghost- end of list.
Bringing back Claudia's ghost the season after Claudia dies means you lose all of the fucking impact and momentum of Claudia being dead in the television show, a relevant thing because it's an adaptation that started with Interview with the Vampire! You can't go a full season of writing two people mourning their dead daughter without a literal fucking ghost? A séance ghost? You can't even use the version of the Claudia ghost that was already in The Queen of the Damned, where it would have been just as impactful and allowed the actress to come back and given us more context; you have to have the most literal, literal, it's a literal séance ghost because you don't know how to write shit?
Lestat was full dead for six god damn episodes! You could write that, but you have to get the Merrick crutch for Claudia cause you don't have a single creative bone left in your body? Write a damn storyline for a character who's your character! You made Louis a black man from a completely different era who does completely different things and has a very different personality, and the moment you actually need to write for that character, you're pulling from fucking Merrick!? You already scraped the Devil's Minion tag on AO3 for Armand, what crumbs of a real story are you going to scrape off the ground next to populate your show where nothing happens for reasons and nobody has any motivations anymore next?? Are you going to hop straight to Realms of Atlantis because you have now run completely out of other content related to this character that you seem to be incapable of coming up with storylines for?
And the most ridiculous part is, I know these motherfuckers do not care about Merrick and haven't read Merrick and haven't thought about the implications of the book Merrick for an adaptation, because if you needed to use the character of Merrick and bring her into your show, why would you not use the fact that this is a character who canonically uses magic mind control powers to change the behavior of characters in a love triangle!?!?!? What show are you writing!?!?! You wrote two seasons of a supernatural romantic drama where everybody is cheating on each other and stealing boyfriends, and you look at the witch that seduces people into acting insane romantically, and all you can think of is the Claudia crumbs you can scrape off the ground?! I don't even want the show to be a telenovela! But the people who are interested in watching Louis and Lestat on the screen sure wouldn't fucking mind an excuse for them to have some romantic drama together.
Were you so blinded by your weird hate of David Talbot that you forgot to read the rest of the words in the book Merrick???
Also: Merrick is not just one of the few black characters from the book canon: Merrick is a character whose racial identity is relevant to her storyline and very specifically detailed! Is it well executed? No, it was Anne Fucking Rice in the 90's, but now it's 2026! You're writing the adaptation of this shit, you're the one who gets to well execute it! If you're going to put the name Merrick Mayfair on my screen in the show where you have already set up that being a biracial person from New Orleans is a relevant thing that affects the characters, I better be seeing a storyline about Merrick Mayfair, a woman of color who has a story where that is relevant in ways that define her character.
Merrick is an actual character! With traits! And a job! I would expect you to do something real with her, even if it was something very different; you know... on the third season of the television show I already watched the first two seasons of!? Why are you taking one of the only specifically canonically black characters in this book series, whose race is relevant to her story, who is the titular character of a book in the series, who has an actual storyline and a personality and stuff she goes through and is a fucking agent in the Talamasca, who is a main female character, who would allow you to introduce easy tension, who you could easily use to mirror characters and situations you have already established, and using her to be lazy??
Actually: Why is she not in the fucking Talamasca? You made a whole show about the Talamasca with a white male lead, all but one of your Talamasca characters on this show are white men, and genuinely, do not even get me started on the shit y'all are pulling on Ciprin on Mayfair Witches, the only actor on that show who could act his way out of a paper bag. Where is the Romani guy in the Talamasca, Mayfair Witches? He's in the fucking books!
It's almost like you don't give a shit about storytelling or also literally anything.
and I don't even fucking like the book Merrick.
Okay one last thing about The Vampire Lestat on AMC and then I stop:
fucking bravo to the goddamn actors.
I had so many issues with this season, and so many of them acted the fuck out of it without having a lot in the material to support them. If anyone in this entire production is good at their jobs, it's the casting department; they are better than the writing deserves.
I especially want to highlight Joseph Potter (Nicki), Sheila Atim (Akasha), and the MVP of me having any part of a good time this season, Damien Atkins (Magnus), but so many of the smaller performances were great too.
Delainey Hayles is a magnetic actress and deserves a great career for decades to come, Jacob Anderson kept doing the work and should have been in award contention for season one, and Assad Zaman deserved to have gotten the amount of screentime his character warranted from the source material so he could murder the fuck out of performing it, because he would have, and it would have been awesome.
Sam Reid: like, fuck, what can I even say, man. Selfishly, I wanted the season to be good because you play a great goddamn Lestat, and even when the script was working against you you turned in a great Lestat, and as someone who is mourning the adaptation we could have had in so many ways... thank you for caring as much as you do, and being a fantastic actor, and doing as much as you could to bring this performance together for people who care about this character as much as I do?
Even though I hated the season, I saw that, and I really, really appreciated it.
If you felt let down by the television series The Vampire Lestat, can I recommend a really good book you might enjoy that might take your mind off it? It's totally different, but I know it always makes me feel better when I read it.
So it's called The Vampire Lestat and it's by Anne Rice-
not being attracted to men in fandom is really isolating sometimes
its just so obviously different when someone is engaging in a convo about a female character because it's the polite thing to do and not because they have any investment in it. and normally that would be fine except this is something you have to deal with literally everywhere you go, no matter who the other people you're conversing with are. and you can feel the switch in interest so potently when women are the focus of the conversation versus men.
and again it's not really any one person's fault. but it's just so lonely sometimes ahahh
now that I'm posting opinions on here can I just say that as one of the biggest fans of blood canticle out there this season was not using the narration style of blood canticle because the narration style of blood canticle is actually fun and good and shockingly even occasionally coherent and consistent? keep my beautiful wife blood canticle out of this.
i did appreciate and choose to accept as a blood canticle reference that they had him mention waking up the pope
I’m very happy for the writers’ assistant, and I don’t mean to belittle their work. I’m in the service industry; I also do things for others that they should very well be able to do for themselves. That was a little flippant, but at the same time, this is art and this show is the writers’ work, and I can’t help but think that, if they aren’t living and breathing these books, someone should at least have compiled a character bible PDF where, for example, the names of Lestat’s family members are listed conveniently under the subheading “family”, and interesting details like the strange origin of his name should be logged from notes that should have been taken while reading through the series. You do that as a hobby, however much work it is—and I have no doubt that, to do it well, it’s a lot of work. This isn’t a hobby for them. They shouldn’t be totally dependent on an assistant to remember the names of their main character’s brothers or the meaning of their main character’s name—and by “remember”, I really mean “check notes before submitting draft”. And honestly I really wouldn’t care about any of this if they’d been careful enough to make a good show out of it all, but, lol—so, to me, this little thing is just another display of rampant carelessness from craftspeople who don’t value their craft enough to do it well. Like, they are the exact people who absolutely should have put the time into knowing these books and their niche details like the backs of their hands—it’s the subject of their art. It’s their profession. And again… these are a set number of books, and you can run a text search on them.
I agree that they should not have allowed these kinds of fuck-ups; I just wanted to clarify what writers' assistants do. There are a lot of moving pieces in a writers' room, and that's always an important job. I'm constantly having to double-check book info, and I'm not also trying to write a show!
I think there is a tension between the idea that the people writing an adaptation have to be totally bound to the source material and the idea that they have creative freedom to do their jobs as writers. On the one hand, yes, they can change whatever they want, any lore can be wrong, whatever, it's their project-
But what has made me feel insane this season is the number of times that the lore gets broken to the point of incoherence with nothing left afterwards to justify or repair it. Lore isn't just nerd shit, it's storytelling logic! If you lose it you have to replace it with logic!
Like, in the exact same scene in episode six they say the Great Burning was caused by Enkil being in the sun, and also that Akasha is the Sacred Core. Those two statements??? Contradict??? Leaving Enkil in the sun wouldn't have done fuck all??? Also Lestat and Gabriella are eight years old, but this is the Great Burning from the books and killed a bunch of vampires who are.... older than them????
I don't think you need a lore die hard of my level of insanity in the room, but there are so many goddamn times this season where even having one person with a voice to what is actually in the lore of the books would have helped.
There are even times when knowing lore would have helped them not have to write themselves into weird corners! They seemed very occupied with why Armand couldn't read Daniel's mind and came up with this frankly bizarre cloud-of-love explanation that they then don't elaborate on. If you asked me, a book fan who knows the lore, a quick solution that takes no time to explain: "some humans have psychic abilities they sometimes don't even ever discover they have themselves." That's FROM THE BOOK SERIES! He's a reporter! Wow, Daniel was low-key able to slightly read minds, which helped him become a great reporter, but never realized that was the case because he was hypnotized into being blurry on whether the supernatural exists in 1973? What a clear-cut solution to many things that got explained terribly. And Daniel in the books has prophetic dreams, so it's not even that far off okay rant over SORRY.
It feels like these writers don't understand how lore works in this kind of genre fiction, and wow, does it feel like that came across this season.
If anyone's curious, here's my full detailed review on my personal feelings on The Vampire Lestat as a die hard fan of the books:
I’m reeling at the “book lore fact-checker”. It’s not like this is Star Trek or something with dozens of semi-canonical entries and hundreds of hours of video to scrub through; they could have “The Vampire Lestat” on their phone and do a text search for “brothers”. Could they really not be fucked to do that much?
Writer's assistants do a lot of different things! Continuity and fact checking even within the season that's being written is part of it, so stuff they mentioned like tracking down the fake names he uses in Tale of the Body Thief is totally in line with that. It's also a foot in the door that's a hard job to get, I'm not kidding when I say it's dope that they got that break!
If anything, I wish the writers had asked and clarified more lore questions from the book series this season. Um.
I just got to say that knowing and locating every single niche fact about this series is a real skill that some people put a lot of time into... 😭 It's not as easy as it looks okay!
(I wrote a huge portion of the wiki 😂 I'm also @sizeofyoursoul)
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The man who assassinated James Garfield??????
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I Believe "The Failures" Framing Device was Added After the Season was Filmed
I don't have proof of this, someone on the writing team could disprove this, I am saying what I saw in the season:
The framing device of "The Failures" was probably written in late 2025 after initial negative feedback on the season from producers or the network, who did not understand what was happening in the show and demanded a fix. It required limited reshoots to incorporate, allowed the editors to heavily recut previously written sequences to incorporate it, cut down on elements they thought weren't working, and increase the elements they thought were working.
This is value-neutral on whether or not you liked the season or the voiceover. You'll probably pick up on my feelings on both along the way.
(I tried to spoiler tag this correctly, but fyi, this spoils E7)
Point One: So much stock footage.
The overwhelming majority of the voiceover in The Vampire Lestat is played over stock footage, clips from prior seasons, or b-roll. This is not the way a voiceover is traditionally written into a script; for a good example of a traditional voiceover, see the first two seasons of Interview with the Vampire. The voiceover transitions us between scenes or is given actual sequences, longer shots, directly related to what we are hearing, to play over.
"He was in love with my city." We see them in New Orleans. "Lestat had disappeared," and we see the start of a scene of him trying to apologize. This isn't random footage, this is filmed intentionally.
There is an absurd amount of stock footage and season one and two footage being played over voiceover in this season. Several voiceover sequences include no footage we have a reason to think was specifically for this season at all.
Look at the lead in to the strip club scene in episode two: greenscreen + stock footage (likely filmed for the original scene transition), stock footage, b-roll insert:
The opening of episode four: stock footage, b-roll, footage from a prior episode that is unrelated to this sequence:
Is using stock footage or b-roll or reusing footage from prior episodes inherently bad or inherently a sign that the voiceover was added later? I'm not saying that, and don't accuse me of saying that. Stock footage is a normal tool, you film b-roll to use it.
But when a giant proportion of the voiceover is only over sequences like this, I wonder if the editors are having to create visuals for something that wasn't planned when the show was filmed, especially because:
Point Two: The transitions in and out of the flashbacks are filmed as if there wasn't originally a voiceover there.
Here is an extremely common piece of film grammar for a flashback with no voiceover, demonstrated in season one: a character goes to sleep, crossfade into a flashback, wakes up. We don't need a voiceover here because the language is easy to understand. He's falling asleep? People dream about the past sometimes. He's waking up? He was dreaming about the past and is now awake. They're both common transitions between flashbacks and a frame story.
You actually only need one of the two: the transition out in this example is just an additional moment for the Armand reveal to sink in. Especially if it's a natural edit break, (or, let's say, the beginning of an episode?) you only need one device to justify a flashback.
So it's really interesting that The Vampire Lestat, which has a voiceover as a conceit throughout, uses so many other traditional flashback transitions for scenes from Lestat's POV, almost as though the writers needed to justify why we are seeing the flashbacks in a version of the script that didn't have a voiceover framing device for Lestat.
Why does he need to tell us he's going into a flashback in a voiceover (over stock footage) if we're going to see him wake up from having remembered this in a dream afterwards?
Why do we have multiple framing devices to allow him to give us voiceover within the tour framing device? Why is he telling us that he told someone else a story as a pretext to tell it?
There is nothing wrong with using multiple ways to get in and out of flashbacks- but this season uses a lot. In my example from season one, there is a simple reason we can't use the main one we've been using: Daniel is not a POV character, so to see inside of his POV, we need a different device.
All of these flashbacks are meant to be Lestat. If you think about what he is telling us on The Failures, he... needs to explain his mom and then he woke up? He talked to Daniel about Nicki and then told the listener, about Nicki in a fragmented way at that time? He's telling us about how he was attacked by Akasha, but really needed to get back to how his band was bad, and then remembered he needed to tell us the rest of that story when he was telling it to the band? Huh?
To be honest: there isn't really a flashback I can identify where the voiceover is required at all.
Point Three: Style and substance.
If the voiceover was always intended, you would expect it to serve a function within the show, give us information we can't get anywhere else, motivate editing choices, etc. Here is a challenge: watch any sequence with significant voiceover and think about the information you got from it. Then, within the next ten minutes of the same episode, see if there is anything the voiceover told you that they didn't almost immediately tell you again with either visuals or dialogue giving you identical information.
Almost all of the voiceover could be removed and leave the audience with the exact same amount of understanding or confusion as they would have with it.
Example from episode four:
The Voiceover: "It can grind you down or deliver you home. And which would it be for our Marginal Mystery Tour back in the bosom of the nifty 50 United States? Digitally, there was some optimism, as somewhere between the P Diddler and Chipotle's new Adobo Ranch sauce, The Vampire Lestat found itself momentarily trending. Cell phone footage of yours truly went viral as both irrefutable proof of the cloud gift and deepfake Antichrist."
In the framing device, Lestat is told by Christine that a major investor wants to talk to him. In the next scene where the band's popularity is relevant, twenty minutes later, the investor says to Lestat:
Andrew: "I didn't know you were alive three days ago. I watched the video. Did a deep dive on the band, the Beautiful Unwell, flew here to Albany, playing "Long Face,". "Plastic Fiends," and "Loneliness" in a loop on my Beats. Saw the show. It's impossible. Saw the fans waiting outside the hotel. Impossible. I saw the protesters outside the hotel. Impossible."
Seems like we'd have been able to figure out the band went viral from a levitation video that seems impossible.
If it's not giving us a lot of new information, then it could be mostly a stylistic choice: It is a stylistic choice. It's one they likely added afterwards. Deciding on the season was chaotic, and making it more stylistically chaotic by including the voiceover and re-edit made it easier to fix the problem they were trying to fix.
It's especially obvious because the episode that feels the most like the prior seasons, episode six, is the one with the least voiceover. Probably because we are watching something pretty similar to what they thought the episode was when they filmed it.
And I just got to put this out there: re-cutting your project to stylize it to make room for a voiceover you need to include because no one understands the narrative as you filmed it with the footage you have was a literal running joke among my cohort in film school.
It doesn't say anything about how the original scripts looked. I used to put a lot of badly color-balanced footage in black-and-white as a "stylistic choice" in high school, too.
Point Four: The voiceover ruins plot points that were meant to be shocking.
Why do you behead a character at the end of an episode? So the audience is shocked and has to wait until next week to see what the outcome of that character being beheaded is.
That really doesn't work if that character is doing an omniscient voiceover we know is in the future.
"Do you think we're really meant to think they're dead?" No, I don't think the users of Tumblr.com the website are meant to think he's dead; I think a random person who doesn't use Tumblr is supposed to argue with their spouse after the episode ends about whether or not he's dead. That's why you do things like this!
You don't fakeout kill a character we know from earlier this same episode isn't dead, because it doesn't mean anything.
This one is more of a broad swing of a theory and assumes they did some fairly significant re-edits to move reveals around, but I also don't think we're supposed to know that Gabriella is his mom by the end of episode one, because they even lampshade how this isn't a good reveal.
If this is true, I don't know when we would have learned about who Gabriella is. I assume it would have been in episode two, because we have to know she's his mother from the flashbacks.
A plausible idea is that the actual kiss there was either from a re-shoot or filmed as an option they could use or not use: after this makeout scene, there is a lot of dialogue in the next episode which could have been planned as a "are they?? are they not??" about the nature of their relationship.
Given this conversation in episode two, it still wouldn't have been ambiguous at all, so it would have been a bad writing choice to assume the audience had any doubt here. Then again, we're talking about fucking Gabriella on The Vampire Lestat, so I'm not assuming a choice being really stupid rules it out as something they were trying to do.
They spent so much of this season on the shocking reveal that Lestat is fucking his mom; it's information we get in the form of a reveal like four times, and then the voiceover adds even more.
Guys... I think there might be incest in this show? Not sure.
It's such a huge element that keeps giving us the same information at the same level of detail, without a twist, without a recontextualization, that I have to entertain the possibility that they decided to make it... more significant later in the process? That's a terrible thought.
Point Five: The way book references are used is really weird.
This adaptation is not made for people with an encyclopedic knowledge of The Vampire Chronicles. As one of those people, I feel comfortable saying this, but also because that's not a market you can sell a show to, because it's too small. Seasons one and two mostly knew that, the Armand reveal being the big exception. The scenes we are watching that aren't voiceover mostly know that.
The way the show deploys book references in the voiceover is really weird.
We know there was a writer's assistant (if you see this: congrats, holy shit, that's a hell of a break, genuinely; also, if I am 100% wrong here and you know, that's hilarious) checking the books for information. I'm not naming them because people are being rude to them about the season (don't do that), but they mentioned this being something they did:
That's a real detail the show gets right: in episode six, at least a lot of the fake names we see are real aliases from the books! It stands out to me, then, that one of the biggest total book-niche fun fact blunders is in the voiceover:
"Picture my five dead siblings, Aristide, Marie, Jules, unbaptized, and Faustin, garden gnomes guarding the undulating domestic bliss of our great hall."
People have mentioned this a lot already, but if you don't know, from Blackwood Farm, Lestat's brother's initials are L-E-S-T-A-T:
"The name [Lestat is] compounded of the first letter of each of my six older brothers’ names."
That isn't proof of anything; it's just interesting to me. It's almost like the voiceover was written after the writers' room was dismissed, when there wasn't someone whose job it was to look up these things anymore. Huh.
It's also very strange to me what level the voiceover thinks you are supposed to be familiar with the books, in comparison to how much they are changing from them.
The show starts with a voiceover that assumes you are familiar with the plot of The Queen of the Damned.
"And I am not saying that the attempted extinction of the Y chromosome across the continents was all my fault."
And in one of the two scenes actually shot in the framing device, we get a shot that assumes you've read The Tale of the Body Thief?
These aren't Easter Eggs- well, they're not good Easter Eggs. Eh, I'll give you the Raglan one if you argue with me.
These are real pieces of information that it's extremely odd to expect some of the audience to know nothing whatsoever about, and others to understand completely. Usually, an adaptation is a different experience if you know the source material or don't, but not on the level of making or not making sense. It's kind of like they want you, when you Google what is happening, to find out the plots of these books via something like The Vampire Chronicles Wiki.
What these references all do is serve an extremely specific function: telling a general audience, if they Google it, that a plot is coming.
I wonder why they felt the need to add a voiceover to clarify that.
Point Six: Episode Seven, The Failures.
I suspected a lot of what I said above from episode one on, and was basically certain from the flashbacks in episode two. I didn't know why they did this exactly, but it explained a lot of what felt odd about the editing.
I figured it was probably a logic issue: something about the show was too vague, and people didn't understand what was happening, so they added the voiceover. It would make sense since a lot of it felt vague even with the voiceover. Maybe the logic issue was caused by something else: maybe something experimental they tried in the script, like more of the "long table," really didn't come across at all on screen; maybe a story element looked or just came across really bad, and they had to cut down on the amount it was shown and fill in the gaps; maybe a block of filming got cut or rushed and they didn't get enough footage.
I don't think I guessed that the logic issue of the season was going to be that the last episode just randomly ends mid-scene with no resolution of any storyline whatsover?
I would love to know what on earth was originally scripted to be the end of season three. Did they write the ending from the book and find out late in the game they couldn't afford to film it? Did they film it, and something was horribly wrong with it? Did they write an eighth episode, only get greenlit for seven, and not rearrange the season at all?
I mean, I can't imagine someone was like, "yep, that's a good way to end a season of television. The people will love that!" Genuinely. For real. I don't think someone said that!
People who know the truth can prove me wrong: send me the teleplays and I'll believe you. Otherwise:
The Vampire Lestat's framing device The Failures, and potentially other significant elements of the season, are a result of significant rework because the season as originally intended was not deemed acceptable to air, possibly because they didn't actually film the originally intended conclusion.
-and if I'm right, I want Mark Johnson to give me a two-year option on the rights to Blackwood Farm for $1 as payment for my suffering.
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What movie do you not want to see?
The cool thing about death note is you could feasibly explain the basic premise of it like the mechanics of the note and also L and lights weird homoerotic shit and you would have a pretty good idea of what the entire plot is like without ever having to explain the terrifying floating clown monster
Yeah the terrifying death god who looks like a clown, likes apples, and follows you at all times
He is just hanging out
#does he actually do anything the entire show#i watched the first episode and it was boring. so i stopped#but from what i coudl tell he really jast didnt do shit ever
He really didn't. He will very occasionally do something very minor if it helps him (like when Light's house is under surveillance and he can't eat apples inside any more, he finds all the cameras hoping for a blind spot where he can eat apples), but on the whole it's a massive victory for Light to get him to do anything at all. He really is just there to watch and heckle because he had nothing else going on.
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