I wonder if for same sex relationships derivative astrology can be used within these persona chart to get a deeper look into your spouse instead of looking at the juno persona chart
For women the briede persona chart represents them in their marriage and for groom that represents them in theirs so if you are attracted to the same sex how can this chart describe you and your future spouse. Unless it shows how we are attracted to similar energies we carry.
If not what if this chart was read with the houses flipped to represent your future spouse and regular to represent you in this union.
Ruled by Neptune in western and ketu Vedic life path 7’s are introspective, intuitive, and independent and deep thinkers. Life path 7’s are most likely to be incarcerated to develope a rich inner world and uncover life mysteries due to their analytical nature.
Placements that may resonate
- Pluto in 1st or 10th house
-scorpio placements
-neptune in 1st house
-12th house placements
-capricorn placements
-north node in 1st hemisphere of chart (common)
-earth placements (2nd house and Taurus)
-Gemini placements
-3rd house placements
-prominent Neptune 4th, 7th, 10th
Life path 8
Ruled by Saturn life path 8’s are powerful, karmic, and strong leaders. They are success driven and encouraged by results hense their natural leadership qualities and dominant nature. 8’s are also the most karmic life path so what they give they get good or bad. Ps they can tend to get away with Th ings like life path 5’s due to power in their persona.
Placements that may resonate
- Libra placements(symbol the scales)
-Saturn in angular houses
- Saturn dominant, domicile, or exhalted
-10th house placements
-Capricorn placements,ascendent, or Mc
- 1st house ruler in 10th house
- placements & houses at 27, 28, 29 degrees
-8th & 2nd house placements
-Aquarius placements
-9th house placement (high influence large personality)
-lilith in 1st, 10th, 2nd, and 8th house
Life path 9
Ruled by mars life path 9’s are passionate, advocates for the betterment of people, and viewed as conflicted for their beliefs and methods of protest, which results in them being out casted or shined sometimes ex Jim Carrey, Malala yousafzai, and bob marley.
-Scorpio placements
-cancer placements
- mars conjunct planets
-Libra placements
-mars in 2nd house (common)( due to fighting for personal values and speaking for others)
-Neptune in 12th
-Lilith conjunct Mc or in 10th house
-2nd house placements
-Pisces placements
-mars influence
- weak placed mars
-aquarius placements
Master numbers
33’s 22’s 11’s
Master numbers in numerology are rare. They are not reduced like other life path numbers.these numbers are high in vibration and spiritually enlightened.
11: visionaries
22: master builders
33: teachers
In common I noticed these life paths have Pisces, Aquarius, and Capricorn energy. Heavy Neptune and Saturn. They are the old souls of the numbers. The purpose of these numbers is to enlighten those around them.
I have recently come across a realization that the energies of life path numbers are significantly prominent in astrological charts.
Life path 1
Ruled by the sun life path 1's are leaders, visionaries, and hence them being the first life path number.
Placements that might be common
-sun in 1st house
- prominent sun aspects
-strong sun placement (exhaled, domicile or dominant)
- 1st house placements ( adds to personality and that planet asserts it self)
-10th house placements
-cardinal energy
-North node in 1st house
- 1st house ruler in 1st house
Life path 3s
ruled by Jupiter. They are jovial, imaginative, and charismatic. Added together life path 3’s are blessed with the gift of gab draws people to them.
Placements that may be common
-Jupiter in the 1st house
-Neptune in the 1st house
-Sagittarius placements
Sagittarius degrees (9,21)
- 3rd house placements
-Prominent Jupiter energy (conjunction to planets, exhaled, domicile, dominant planet)
- other 1st house placements(Venus,mercury,sun)
-9th house placements
Life path 4
Ruled by in western Uranus is Vedic rahu. Life path 4’s are analytical, deep thinkers, and organized. Although I notice in bad karma or low vibration they can be to complete opposite. Life path 4’s are dependable, practical and structured.
Ruled by mercury life path 5's are adaptable, curious, and sociable to some extent(varies from person to person). Life path 5's are also the most sensual and sexual of all the life paths.
Placements that might be common
- 3rd house placements
-5th house placements
-Gemini placements
-Virgo placements
- Gemini degrees (3,15,27)
-Virgo degrees (6,18)
-mercury in 1st hous
-Venus in lst house
-9th house placements
-Aries placements
-Aries degrees (1,13,25)
-scorpio placements
Life path 6
Ruled by the planet Venus life path 6’s are nurturers, home makers and problem solvers. They are fond of peace and are full of compassion.
Placements that may resonate
-moon in 1st house
-Venus prominence 1st, 4th, 7th,10th
-Venus conjunct asc, midheaven, personal planets
-2nd house and 7th house placements
-cancer energy
-libra placements
- moon conjunctions
-jupiter in good standing/prominence (promotes generosity)
Many know that Aries and Scorpio are ruled by mars traditionally (modernly Scorpio is ruled by Pluto) but I noticed some polarizing distinctions between the two in the sense that they are ruled by mars. Ps(I mainly use traditional astrology)
Aries the fiery version of mars
Temperament: IMPULSIVE!!! I know this is a common stereotype for Aries but I’ve come to notice how true it is their first thought is what they usually act upon & stalling is their worst enemy.Impulsivity can be so prevalent with them they can act without thinking.
Interpersonal relationships: in My interactions with those who have had prominent Aries placements I noticed they are open books. They have no problem answering any question or having any conversation that will lead to people having a presumption about them (they could really care less)
Aries passion runs deep and scorching they will make any environment feel alive which stems from their fear of boredom and lack of stimuli.
Scorpio the watery version of mars
Temperament: slow and well thought out actions due to fear of vulnerability and judgement. Scorpios aren’t as impulsive as Aries unless other placements intervene. Which I believe is due to them being a water sign although ruled by mars. Like other water signs they are very captivating and enticing. They can become very easily obsessed or other can easily become obsessed with them.
Interpersonal relationships: very calculated and wary of others their perceptions, thoughts, and mannerisms. I've noticed Scorpio placements will carefully watch others' interactions and then engage. This is most likely due to a fear of being perceived by the wrong people and a need for control over their image hense the mysterious vibe they give off. This is also why they have a very good judgement of character and are surrounded by people they can most likely “trust”. When they love they love with all of their soul if they could I believe they would become one with their partner.
As I mentioned earlier scorpios obsession stems from a deep passion to know, to feel, to become
Ex: I have Scorpio in the third house although I am a Libra rising and I have always had a deep urge to get to the bottom of things. What ever topics interest me it becomes an obsession.
In conclusion Scorpio and Aries although both ruled by mars traditionally both share an allure assertiveness, and passion. Expressed in two completely different fashions. Water and fire, ice and heat, slow & steady and quick and direct. Both a beautiful depiction of mars.
Many know that Aries and Scorpio are ruled by mars traditionally (modernly Scorpio is ruled by Pluto) but I noticed some polarizing distinctions between the two in the sense that they are ruled by mars. Ps(I mainly use traditional astrology)
Aries the fiery version of mars
Temperament: IMPULSIVE!!! I know this is a common stereotype for Aries but I’ve come to notice how true it is their first thought is what they usually act upon & stalling is their worst enemy.Impulsivity can be so prevalent with them they can act without thinking.
Interpersonal relationships: in My interactions with those who have had prominent Aries placements I noticed they are open books. They have no problem answering any question or having any conversation that will lead to people having a presumption about them (they could really care less)
Aries passion runs deep and scorching they will make any environment feel alive which stems from their fear of boredom and lack of stimuli.
Scorpio the watery version of mars
Temperament: slow and well thought out actions due to fear of vulnerability and judgement. Scorpios aren’t as impulsive as Aries unless other placements intervene. Which I believe is due to them being a water sign although ruled by mars. Like other water signs they are very captivating and enticing. They can become very easily obsessed or other can easily become obsessed with them.
Interpersonal relationships: very calculated and wary of others their perceptions, thoughts, and mannerisms. I've noticed Scorpio placements will carefully watch others' interactions and then engage. This is most likely due to a fear of being perceived by the wrong people and a need for control over their image hense the mysterious vibe they give off. This is also why they have a very good judgement of character and are surrounded by people they can most likely “trust”. When they love they love with all of their soul if they could I believe they would become one with their partner.
As I mentioned earlier scorpios obsession stems from a deep passion to know, to feel, to become
Ex: I have Scorpio in the third house although I am a Libra rising and I have always had a deep urge to get to the bottom of things. What ever topics interest me it becomes an obsession.
In conclusion Scorpio and Aries although both ruled by mars traditionally both share an allure assertiveness, and passion. Expressed in two completely different fashions. Water and fire, ice and heat, slow & steady and quick and direct. Both a beautiful depiction of mars.
Disclaimer!!! this is an observational interpretation other placements in your chart can alter these placements power in your personality… Enjoy
Having natal placements in Leo makes you shine like the “sun”. Even if you’re shy & dislike the attention you’ll attract it. Leo’s are commonly associated with lions (which makes sense to why they usually have beautiful well groomed hair or have much pride in their manes).
Leo sun
Good karma
Leo sun natives are entertaining, loyal, & often well liked for their personality. Leo suns that I have had the pleasure of being around are often “full of light”. Humorous, great story tellers, & loyal to those they care about.
Bad karma
Can be egotistical & insecure at the same time. Acknowledging their own insecurities yet pick apart others. Can be well known for bad reasons & kind of a pick me.
Leo moons
As a Leo moon you passionately feel & express emotions with those your fond of. In bad tides Can sometimes be too passionate when expressing emotions to the point where they can suffocate other people with their feelings. As a whole Leo moons are generous & loving company. Your relationship with your mother was most likely prominent in your development.
Leo risings
Almost all Leo rising natives that I have seen have looked feline like somehow. Big shiny, healthy hair, orange or yellow toned complexion, bright eyes( commonly almond with bigger pupils ex rdg, Justin Timberlake, Emma stone) mouth can often be ➖ shaped or have longer sharp corners example (Vanessa hudgens) Attracts a lot of attention even if they keep to themselves. Can some time have a childlike, egotistical, abrupt nature if in bad karma or negatively aspected.
Leo mercuries
Let me start off by saying you’re probably a great story teller. If your mercury is in Leo you are intelligent, able to dramatize a conversation, & passionately charming speaker. Although it’s not uncommon that you guys have a tendency to gloat & go on about what you find interesting.
Leo Venus
Hello Leo Venus babes you appreciate when your love is loud vibrant, & dramatic you enjoy a partner who will boost your confidence, self esteem, someone who will make you look & feel good.your love language is romantic acts of service, words of affirmation which you would love for your partner to reciprocate TEN FOLD!!! In love Leo Venus natives are loyal, romantic & sensual. If a Leo Venus isn’t bragging or showing you off it mostly isn’t right.
Leo mars
Arguments with Leo native are dramatic, fiery & domineering when a Leo mars is upset you will hear about it. NSFW in bed they are confident performers ready to impress their partner think loud hair flipping position changing & whole ensemble… but let me not say too much.
Having multiple Virgo placements can make you very particular & organized mentally.
Virgo suns
Don’t mean to start off stereotypical but every Virgo sun that I’ve been around has been a perfectionist. Virgo suns are very particular & can oddly notice the most minuscule things ( like if someone changes up their style in the smallest way & Virgo sun will most likely notice) Usually very timid even with sun influence. Hardworking individuals & a little too hard on themselves sometimes. Can be somewhat pessimistic & without meaning to come off a bit judgy (like Micheal Jackson in the “we are the world video” ⬇️)
Video here
Virgo moons
Calm, cool & collected when in distress mostly because they’re to busy overthinking what their feeling to express it freely. Virgo moons that I have been around have always been very trustworthy & practical/make great listeners.
Commonly suffer from stomach issues ( sensitive to certain foods, irritable bowel syndrome, bloating) not uncommon in sun, rising also
Virgo risings
Very clean appearance!!! Unless other placements interfere. Small and petite frame along with youthful & delicate features. Kinda resembles gorgeous elf’s ( kinda weird way to put it I know). Most Virgo risings I’ve seen have had big doe eyes, long well constructed noses, nice cheekbones & with positive aspects clear & unblemished skin.
First glance: shy, reserved, polite, observant
Deeper relationships : great listeners, reliable, analytical (can often help you find solutions to your problems through logic and clear headed thinking)
Virgo mercury
Virgo is ruled by mercury so Virgo mercury’s are very clear communicators & very analytical * unless affected ( mercury retrograde/ a lot of bad aspects). Sharp in communication & very smart individuals processes information and problems practically.
Virgo Venus
Detail oriented with crushes, relationships, love ( which can lead to being picky) most likely not into hooking up or a quick fix *in it for the long term. Love languages include acts of service & words of affirmation. Once you get in close with a Virgo Venus you have their devotion & loyalty. Very fond of clean, mature, & disciplined partners someone who’s a hard worker.
Virgo mars
Very practical & clear headed when angered or upset ( similar to Virgo moons) most likely won’t do any thing rash & destructive. In conflict they mainly act maturely mainly relying on facts & clear mature confrontation. Their drive & ambition is mainly fuel by perfectionism & high quality in their results * although be easy on yourselves watch out for burnouts.
Gratitude is a magical vibration. It’s a vibration of abundance. It’s a vibration of receiving. When you fill yourself with gratitude, your life becomes truly magical.
This is for entertainment. Appearance is very difficult to correctly predict especially considering people from different races will embody the traits differently.
EX: You get results for a curly haired spouse. This is very vague, results can vary from 4C coily hair type to 2C wavy hairy type. The exact outcome will depend on the person's gentics.
With that being said, take this as a fun non serious post. Warning: LONG POST AHEAD + irl examples at the end.
For yourself: Check planets & sign in 1st, 1st H ruler & AK.
For spouse: Check for planets & sign in 7th H, 7th H ruler, Jupiter for husband & Venus for wife. Check for DK planet too!
KEEP IN MIND:
Whether planet is exalted or uncomfortable in the sign can influence the results.
EX: Jupiter in Virgo 1st H - you may be shorter to average height since Jupiter is in detriment. This does not mean you aren't attractive, you still have jupiter in 1st. You would simply lack some jupiter traits as jupiter can't express itself comfortably in this sign.
If you have Virgo 1st H & Mercury the ruler is in sag, then you are likely to be shorter to average height. Despite, this post showing mercury and virgo as tall to average. This is because Mercury is in detriment in 4th - a naturally moon ruled house.
Anyways, don't take this too serious. No one can be 100% sure. These signs and planets may manifest as the spouse's personality traits and not their appearance.
Aries/Mars: If a person is pale or white, they can turn red easily - blushing, after workout, red lips after eating something spicy. Average height for their gender+ethnicity. Large forehead or nose. Bony to muscular features like a sharp jawline.
Taurus: Symmetrical and square face. Lighter skin complexion. Often hairy but again this will depend on race. Shorter to average height for their gender+ethnicity.
Gemini/Mercury: Medium skin complexion for their race. Curly hair. Tall to average height for their gender+ethnicity.
Cancer/Moon: Light skin complexion. Clear and youthful appearance. Short to average height for their gender+ethnicity. Unless, Jupiter is in cancer where it is exalted than tall.
Leo/Sun: Medium skin complexion for their race - often can tan well. Short to average height for their gender+ethnicity. Curly hair, darker tone of hair not necessarily black. One outstanding feature - ex: sparkle in their eyes, good hair, good lip shape or cheekbones, freckles, beauty spots etc.
Virgo/Mercury: Dark to medium skin complexion. Tall for their gender+ethnicity. Longer hair and curly hair. If planet in virgo or mercury is in detriment, I have noticed the opposites can be true - short & straight hair.
Libra: Tanner complexion for their race - ex: if it's a danish person, this can result in pale skin that turns red/burns/tans easily. Symmetrical.
Scorpio/Mars: Lighter skin complexion but darker features - darker hair, intense eyes. Short to average for their gender/ethnicity.
Sagittarius/Jupiter: Lighter skin complexion for their race. Tall to average height, however if planet placed in sag is debilitated in sag then I have noticed short height. Curly hair.
Capricorn/Saturn: Tall people for their gender/ethnicity. Darker to neutral skin complexion for their race. Large or broad forehead. Bony and/or sharp features - ex: long thin fingers, sharp jawline, rib cage may be visible, prominent chin, teeth visible when smiling. More likely to be reserved in style and demeanour than aqua - ex: business casual style.
Aquarius/Saturn: Tall for their gender+ethnicity. Neutral to lighter skin complexion for their race. Broad or large forehead. Thin hair. Bony and/or sharp features - ex: long thin fingers, sharp jawline, rib cage may be visible, prominent chin. More likely to be outgoing or casual in style & demeanour - ex: sweatpants and ripped tee, baseball cap.
Pisces: Honestly from my research this can indicate either dark or light skin complexion - one is not more likely than the other. Tall husband especially if you have mars pisces. May keep their hair longer than the norm - even if it’s just slightly more.
more specific observations:
Rahu's influence: Tall and/or beauty moles or freckles.
Ketu's influence: May have or had long hair at one point. Beauty mole and/or birth mark. Taller unless placed in scorpio where it is comfortable - ketu doesn’t wish to increase, it wishes to decrease/detatch.
Venus conjunct Mars: A cut/scar or birthmark is likely somewhere visible. However, it is likely to add to their attractiveness.
Venus conjunct Moon: Soft, clear skin complexion. Attractive eyes. May gain weight easily.
Sun conjunct Rahu or Saturn or Mars: May manifest as dark circles under eyes. Sun is eyes.
Debilitated sun as DK or in connection to 7th H can indicate a spouse with poor eyesight - but may wear contacts or get/have done laser eye surgery to correct vision.
Venus conjunct Sun or Mercury: I know women wanting a man won't like this but this has shown as a shorter spouse in every single chart I saw it in. It's usually same height or slightly shorter. Saturn, jupiter and/or rahu influencing 7th h/7th h ruler could change this.
FOR MORE DETAILS:
While writing this post, I remembered my nakshatra series also included physical features so you might be interested in checking that post out - it is linked in my pinned post/materlist.
IRL EXAMPLES:
Vanessa Hudgens & Cole Tucker.
Cancer first house, Aquarius Moon in 7th H conjunct Rahu. Moon gives a lighter skin complexion and shorter height. However, Rahu and Aquarius give a tall height. Vanessa is above average height at 5'8.
Her sun is her AK in sag. Her natural hair is darker and curly.
Her 7th H has moon which indicates a short to average spouse. However, moon is conjunct rahu & in Aqua. Rahu amplifies what it touches, this results in a tall spouse. Cole Tucker is 6'2.
Saturn influence gives prominent bone structure. Tucker has a prominent chin.
Megan Fox:
First House in sag with Mars. Mars gives a shorter height. Megan is 5'3.
Her AK is Venus in gemini. She has always been very symmetrical. I am aware she has said she has had a few surgeries to change her natural look - but imo she still beautifully embodies most of her placements physically.
Her 7th H is in Gemini, Mercury is in Aries aspecting Jupiter and Moon. Her ex-husband is 6 ft. Her ex shows aries traits as he has discussed his fitness/gym hobbies. Aries/mars can show a larger forehead too.
Navamsa shows later half of life along with life after marriage. Since her first marriage ended, we can find the people she dates later in life in navamsa. In d9, her 7th has jupiter conjunct rahu. This indicates a very tall spouse as both jupiter and rahu amplify one another. After her first marriage ended, she became engaged to mgk who is 6'4.
Karlie Kloss:
Her first is in Gemini with Ketu. Merucry is conjunct sun. Her Ak is Rahu in sag. Ketu debilitated in gemini & sun suggest a shorter height however, gemini & mercury indicate a tall person. She is 6'1.
Rahu is in her sag 7th H. This indicates a tall spouse, however, 7th h ruler is in leo and her DK is Venus (indicators of a shorter spouse). So while her spouse is tall, he is not much taller than her. Her spouse is 6'1.
I thought this was a good example as it puts things into perspective. 6’1 is not short but for someone who is 6’1 with a mix of tall & short spouse indicators, the result is near neutral - both are the same height.
What college major is best for you based on you 9th house.
Earth signs:
Capricorn 9th house: dentistry, investing, business, chiropractic studies, finance, engineering, cheif executive ( any major that deals with discipline & structure
Virgo 9th house: Performs well with majors involving acts of service(nursing, social work, psychology, teaching, accounting, dietitians, health care)
Taurus 9th house: Finance, Business, accounting, culinary arts, food science, real estate, agriculture business, investing, design (a calm and stable work environment with assured stability is best).
Air signs:
Gemini 9th house : communications, telecommunications,public administration,public relations, teaching, sales, advertising, art & design( any majors that encourages mental growth & really gets you to socialize & think)
Libra 9th house: law, politics, esthetician/ skin care specialists, real estate,
Aquarius 9th house: Computer science, engineering tech related, space related majors, mechanics.
Water signs:
Cancer 9th house: Real estate, nursing, pediatric care, child psychology, physical therapy, dermatology.
Scorpio 9th house: psychology, anthropology, mortuary services, accounting, finance,cognitive science, Forensics, casino management, banking, criminal studies (does well with deep & taboo majors).
Aries Venus: Aries Venus: BOLD!!! Dramatic & eye catching outfits. Look best in daring & dominating outfits & colors ( dressy button up shirts, ripped jeans, asymmetrically cut clothing “RED” ,outfits that show skin)
Note: Aries mars women tend to make brave fashion statements. Since Aries is ruled by mars it’s not uncommon to see Aries mars women in suits or dressed in a tomboyish fashion.
Taurus Venus: classy!!! Mainly dressed in earthy and neutral tones. Often an equal balance of chill and demure at the same time.
Gemini Venus: Vibrant colors & patterns (stripes polka dots, zig zags) tend to be very versatile & fun. Looks great in yellow.
Cancer Venus: calm & comfort seeking style cancer venus natives look best in soft & mellow colors palettes
Leo Venus: glamorous & dramatic. Leo Venus natives mainly look best in animal prints, solar colors, & gold. Cat eyes offten suit their appearance.
Virgo Venus: Earthy palette with a minimalistic undertone. Virgo venus native often look very clean and polished & dress in a simple fashion.
Libra Venus: Doesn’t matter what their wearing it always looks put together somehow. soft tones that flow together, nothing to loud about what their wearing everything FLOWS.
Scorpio Venus: sultry and serene style with a dash of mystery. They look best in darker shades( dark purples blacks, burgundy).
Sagittarius Venus: eye catching & free spirited. Sagittarius Venus natives style themselves with no filter or restrictions & can tend to be over the top (which there is nothing wrong with). Can be fond of the bohemian aesthetic wearing earthy patterns & firefly color palettes.
Capricorn Venus:💵💸💵 looks best when dressed in a classic & timeless fashion. Think old money aesthetic. Looks great in well put together sets. A great palette for Capricorn Venus natives is ( black, white earthy tones, beige)
Aquarius Venus: unique, eccentric, rebellious! Aquarius Venus natives look best when they are genuinely trying to stand out and be different with their fashion choices. Think odd pattern combinations, mixing different clothing textures together, intriguing color choices & combos.
Pisces Venus: ethereal serene and hypnotic. Looks best in flowy, tops, skirts, jackets & beautifully calm pastels. Looks great in silk & materials that move with them like ocean waves.
