It's been 5 years- a guy can change

here to follow my heart

[silver-wield]

I ship Cloud with both Tifa and Aerith but at the same time I'm not quite sure which one he actually prefers. I just feel it's so unclear throughout the whole compilation. In the original it looks like he prefers Aerith. Then when he gets his memories back he's into Tifa but then in AC it looks like he's wavering between them both. I just don't know lol

Cloud loves Tifa. There's zero evidence he ever loved Aerith.

[vermillionage]

I love that it is canon.

Sometimes my ships aren't, but this one is and one can see and read it everywhere..most important- feel it everywhere! Always loved them together.

And Remake is the marshmallow topped cream on my hot cacao!☕

Can't wait for the rest of Remake.

[kennycrows]

「OMNISLASH」

[vermillionage]

I love this.

[vermillionage]

I loved this Interview with Britt Baron. Her point of view is empowering.

She did an awesome job voicing Tifa ❤

Hi! Check out this article from GAMING about Final Fantasy 7 Remake: Britt Baron on Voicing Tifa, Recording Difficulties, and Aerith:

https://comicbook.com/gaming//news/final-fantasy-7-remake-britt-baron-tifa-lockhart-interview/

[silver-wield]

I think this whole “is aerith trustworthy” goes back to what the devs said that aerith knows more than she should, aerith talks to everyone as if she already knows them, even cloud is all like “quit acting like you know me” I of course trust her, I think her not giving away too much of what she knows is to prevent things from becoming worse

Definitely! The devs said everything Aerith says is important, which some people took to mean as romantically motivated. Like, what even is plot? 🙄

All of chapter 8 is about Zack. She implies the collapsed expressway is a route she took with Zack to get to the park for their date. She refers to "operator" which is a soldier term and upsets Cloud because it reminds him of Zack and she says moonlighting because it means working two jobs at once. We know Cloud's moonlighting right now because he thinks he's a soldier and he's not. It's a hint at the dual personas. This is repeated during her resolution where she tells him he's not himself, but can't be any clearer because it'll collapse his mind.

Much of the roof top conversation is about Zack, too, or the fact they laughed in OG, but all Cloud does is stay silent this time. He ditches her. She says she'll ditch him. He says he won't even tell her a story for free, but he'll go collect filter money Tifa's owed for no fee. This is building a clearer picture of their dynamic, which isn't that friendly. Cloud doesn't trust her. He gives her the silent treatment a lot of the time.

All of the sidequests in chapter 8 are biggest mood Cloud completing them.

She's telling us about Zack because of what she does at the end of the game. She changed fate to bring him back. Sephiroth taunts her with a vision saying Zack's destiny is coming and we see his last stand and then Aerith breaks fate itself to save his life.

It's really only because of Tifa that Cloud puts up with Aerith. Even in the sewers, he's suspicious of her.

This is totally innocent between the girls, but he's giving Aerith a look and asking what she said because he doesn't trust her. It's Tifa being cute with him that settles his mind. Then, the bridge collapses lol

Aerith is probably guilty of trying too hard to be part of the group before they know her. She knows them, she's so happy to see them all again, even though it's the first time for them.

The first time Aerith meets them all. Her happiest reaction is to Tifa and then Red. I think this is pretty telling of how she feels about everyone. Tifa is her favourite, then Red, then Cloud and Barret. We'll see how she reacts to the rest of the team when they meet. I'd put money on a lukewarm reaction to Cid and Vincent, but a better one to Yuffie. No clue with Cait. I mean he's a spy, unless they change that.

I think people who act like she's innocent of manipulating everyone, or planting that trait on Tifa, just aren't paying attention. She's hella suspicious and knows way more than she's letting on and I think this lack of trust towards the team, who she said are her fiends, is what's gonna ultimately cause the biggest problems between them all.

[voaleine]

Mako Candy

[ria-neearts]

Happy Birthday Cloud♥

[vermillionage]

❤

[janefair]

Your Daily Dose of Reno’s Graceful Moves

Beatdown

Rushdown

Counter Attack

EM Flail

Jumping down from church’s column.

[vermillionage]

He is so capable

[janefair]

Your Daily Dose of Reno’s Graceful Moves

Beatdown

Rushdown

Counter Attack

EM Flail

Jumping down from church’s column.

[vermillionage]

He is so capable

[vermillionage]

He actually put in the work to learn the choreography ❤well done

[silver-wield]

Hey, what happend with neven yuki? Why deactivated? Im worried something bad happend to her/him 😥

Idk, I just woke up. I thought they were ok after all the shit from earlier. Guess not. Obviously the fucking trolls are to blame. This is what they do to clotis. They find one they can manipulate and harass, then go play the victim when the rest of us defend them.

I literally saw a post in the Clotis tag from a whiny bitch saying we're threatening her and she's scared 🙄🤦‍♀️🙄🤦‍♀️. Nobody threatens those dumdums. They literally pretended to be a representative of SquareEnix, which is illegal, to threaten a person for posting 4 goddamn pages of the ultimania because those 4 pages confirmed everything they don't wanna hear.

Fuck. Them.

They don't get to harass anyone else off the community. We need to stick together.

[iaintyourbro]

Okay, I’m pissed, this is fucked up. I noticed @neven-yuki-deactivated20200703​’s account was deactivated (see in the name there...). They seemed to be somewhat new to the group (like me). They were posting some AWESOME stuff - not just the translations. 

But somebody got upset about it. Like nobody else has posted shots of the Ultimania and translated it? There are accounts in Twitter that have thousands of followers that were translating MULTIPLE pages when it first came out. I don’t recall anything being removed. Surely SquareEnix knew about this? 

So how would SquareEnix know about a newer blog over here, where most of us have less than 1,000 followers? They don’t give a shit. And if they did know, why would they single them out for posting four pages of seemingly pro-Cloti materials, but allow somebody else to translate 20 pages of various subjects? They wouldn’t. 

This was a troll who created an account to scare the crap out of somebody. YouTubers have their stuff taken down all the time but nobody has lawyers after them. Lawyers don’t just go around messaging people unofficially. There’s a lot involved. They know better than to start randomly messaging somebody.

And before anybody asks for receipts for the conversation, her account is deactivated, so, no, I don’t have receipts for the conversations. I know she did a post earlier today saying she apologized and I guess the bullying didn’t stop so she deactivated her account. 

[r00dblr]

all because she posted a couple of pictures and translated them herself and some idiot got so triggered they went ahead and created a new account to impersonate a square lawyer and threatened her with legal action ANONYMOUSLY causing her to freak out and take down the posts and apologize as well as closing her inbox because she was getting too much hate......... what the fuck is wrong with some people? let people enjoy their ship and go! there are tools at their disposal to block content they don’t wanna see!! fucking ugly ass hoes can’t enjoy their own shit so they gotta come and ruin it for others.

[silver-wield]

Because we joked that Cloud's been flirting with Tifa for 23 years and they couldn't deal with it.

Because we can have fun with the content, and since they're not, nobody else is allowed to. Because they suck.

We can spot stuff like Marle being a representative of Cloti and giving Cloud shit, but then warming up to him because of Tifa, and see it as a joke about how a lot of us have said we didn't like Cloud because he didn't look after Tifa properly. That's hilarious! It's adorable and I love it. It's shade at us and so much fun.

Mirielle is their rep. A lying, cheating, thieving hypocrite who only does stuff for others if she can benefit from it. Who literally said she was gonna enjoy endangering Cloud and Aerith in her first sidequest (I have screens). A pack rat, who obviously doesn't look after herself. Whose own granddaughter acts like she doesn't know her because she's embarrassing. Who doesn't say anything nice about Cloud except he's Aerith's funny new friend. Funny as in odd.

That's how the devs see their side.

Marle is well dressed, smart, elegant, kind, but nobody's fool. You have to earn her respect and she loves Tifa. She tolerates Cloud. Like we did for years lol then she warms up to him. She sees by chapter 14 that he's a good guy and more than a match for her girl.

Same for us.

But enough about shade, these dumdums would never see anything more than the surface. They use fan translations to "prove canon" for themselves, but then suddenly it's "inaccurate and untrustworthy" when it's supporting us.

They are the biggest full of shit hypocrites. I'm not kidding when I say if anyone gets harassed by these people to come to me. Don't even answer them. Just screen the thing and send it to me.

In reference to this

In reference to this too

[vermillionage]

Hahahahaha... it would be funny how hard some Clerith still try...- if ot wouldn't be harassment.

Scaring a poor fellow fan like that

#shipwar #stopthetrolls #clotisticktogether.

[vermillionage]

I just love that this game has a team just working on Illumination and Lighting.

It is so well done and adds majorly to the whole package.

[geostigmakid]

can i keep this?

Marlene: I caught a fish! Can I keep it, papa?

Barrett: Can’t see why we can’t, sweetheart!

Denzel: I found a soccer ball at the garage! May I play with it?

Barrett: Ayrrr yeah. In fact, you can have it, boy.

Cloud: . . . *puts an arm around the person beside him*

Tifa: . . ?

Cloud: Can I -

Barrett: SHUT YER STUPID FACE AND GET THOSE FUCKIN' HANDS OFF, SPIKESHIT

(me and my terrible humour, i know)

[vermillionage]

[100wendybirds]

FF7 Remake: Translation Matters!

We’ve been playing FF7R. Never having been a fan of the original, I had no idea there were “fan wars” about Cloud’s romantic choices. But it was interesting to see how much the translations differences impact how you’d react to and understand Cloud’s relationship with Tifa or Aerith. Case in Point: Chapter 4 “Alone at Last.” We play the game in English since my husband doesn’t know Japanese. I rewatched this cut scene in Japanese and the differences are clear. The following is the entire scene that I translated as a more faithful expression of what is in Japanese. In parenthesis, I added the official English script. After that is any commentary on how differently this would portray Tifa and Cloud. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIBNnaungMk *** After she finishes changing her filter, Tifa gets very close to Cloud. She is so close that you can hear Cloud breath out heavily. They are ALONE AT LAST after all. Then she says: “So tell me…about after you left the village.” (Eng: So. After you left the village.) Cloud is surprised by her question. “Huh?” he blinks. (Eng: “Hm?”) “You promised, right? Remember, back at the hall?” (Eng: “I let you off the hook before. Back at the Hall. But not this time.”)

Comment: The English makes Tifa look incredibly pushy, as though she has the power to make Cloud talk. The Japanese is much more neutral and simply references an earlier conversation they had.”  

“During the war, SOLDIERS were treated as heroes.” (Eng: Well, when we were kids…everyone wanted to be a SOLDIER, right?”) “Mm, I saw them on the news every day.” (Eng: Yeah, I remember they were on the news every day during the war.”) “But, by the time that I became a SOLDIER, the circumstances had changed. It was nothing like the job that we dreamed of. It was just working for SHINRA. Just a…” (Eng: “Thing is, by the time I finally made it in, they didn’t need heroes anymore. It was nothing like what we’d dreamt of. It was…just working for SHINRA. Just…”). “I’m sorry. You don’t want to talk about it, right?” (Eng: I’m sorry. I know it’s a touchy subject.”)

Comment: The English makes it seem like Tifa is pressing on a sensitive topic despite already knowing it is touchy. The Japanese makes it seem like Tifa is realizing that this is something Cloud doesn’t want to talk about.

“It’s a job that involves weapons. (literally: 剣を使う仕事だ。）It’s not a conversation to have when catching up with someone.” (Eng: Not exactly small talk. Especially with someone you haven’t seen in a while.)

Comment: In English, Cloud seems to push Tifa away and emphasize their distance from each other. They are not close enough to talk about something so serious. In Japanese, it sounds like Cloud is protecting Tifa from hearing about the disturbing things he had to do in his job.

“Yeah. I understand.” (Eng: I get it.)

Comment: In both English and Japanese, Tifa seems to be saying that she understands on a deeper level. She herself has had traumatic experiences over the last few years since leaving their destroyed village.

“But, isn’t it strange? When we went our separate ways back there, thinking we were parting forever…to think we’d see each other again in a place like this. Oh! Let’s celebrate our reunion! Let’s totally get dressed up!” (Eng: Still, it’s kinda funny.  Us going our separate ways, thinking that must be it…that we’d never meet again - and then here, of all places, we do. You know what? We should totally celebrate. Let’s dress up and hit the town!” “Dressed up?” (Eng: “Really?”)

Comment: Cloud is skeptical about dressing up. In English, he seems skeptical about…well, it is vague enough to be about the entire idea. But right after that, the camera pans up their bodies to show us how they are dressed.  

“Even I get dressed up too you know!” (Eng: I mean, why not? It’ll be fun!”) “Do you even have something to wear?” (Eng: Do you even have fancy clothes?”) “No but I’ll get ready somehow. What do you think would suit me?” (Eng: Not like fancy fancy but I’ll figure something out. What do you think would suit me?”) 

Comment: As in the previous translation choice, Tifa’s reaction in English seems like she is awkwardly reacting to Cloud’s potential rejection of her date idea. However in Japanese, it is very clear that Tifa is feeling defensive and embarrassed about how she is dressed. This is why she crosses her arms across her body. She seems to be self conscious about her slum-outfit and that she is not someone who gets prettied up. This makes sense in light of the flashbacks when she was much more feminine (frilly white dress, frilly blue dress) and in the way she acts as a comparison point to the very feminine Aerith.

Finally… “It sure is nice to make fun plans.” (Eng: “This is gonna be so much fun, you’ll see!)  “Yeah, it is nice.” (Eng: “Yeah…maybe.”) “Well then, on that happy note, shall we head to the shop?” (Eng: And on that happy note, I think it’s time we headed back to the bar. C’mon!”) 

Comment: In Japanese, it is clear that Tifa is happy to be able to make fun plans. Cloud agrees. This seems to be a direct reference to their Avalanche plans, which are definitely not fun! The English is VERY different. It presents Cloud as unsure about the entire idea. Tifa is, again, presented as pushy and controlling.

  “You’re okay without taking a rest?” (Eng: “Uh, you don’t need a break?” “It’d be a waste of time. But keep that a secret from Marle.” (Eng: “Honestly, I’m feeling pretty good. Marle isn’t always right you know.” 

Comment: Tifa does not want to waste any time she has with Cloud. The entire scene is pretty romantic (thirsty!?) but that clinches it for me. In English, the response is vague - Tifa feels good. Does that just mean she has the energy to keep running errands?   

***

When playing the game in English, I had no strong feeling towards Tifa but thought these scenes were awkward. Like, so many girls throwing themselves at Cloud! But when rewatching the game in Japanese, I found myself liking her quite a bit and finding these interactions to be incredibly sweet. Translation matters!!

[vermillionage]

@100wendybirds Thank you.

This is what I felt as having played it on German and English as well..

Some parts were better in German ..some in English.

I am very interested in the japanese wording/ how Japanese speakers feel watching the interactions. Since the creators are Japanese. Thank you for sharing your translations

Translation matters. Many things can be lost in Translation.

Nuances matter. They can change the whole understanding of a scene.

[silver-wield]

I'm sorry to ask but what's this thing about people calling Tifa smelly now? I don't have a Twitter account, so I have no idea what's going on over there (and am glad I don't venture in that landmine).

A couple of weeks ago Aerith's va apparently said something very stupid on a stream about Tifa's post battle callout where she says she worked up a good sweat. Idk what because I have nothing to do with her. Now, the douchebags think they can call Tifa smelly. Because they're not 12, they 6 and that kind of pathetic childish insult is normal in their dumbass world.

[vermillionage]

[iaintyourbro]

Okay guys, something has been sitting in my head and randomly comes up... In FF7 OG... Why did they put Cloud and Tifa in the same jail cell at the Shinra building? Like, they coulda had Tifa and Red or Tifa and Aerith and stuck Cloud with Barret.... But they put them in the cell together. Give me your thoughts! @silver-wield @vermillionage @otp-oasis-heavenxearth @eizasake @nibelheiim

Maybe they'll stick them in the same room again alone cuz some Inn is booked up, and Aerith uses Red as a pillow and can't sleep without him, and Barret takes up a whole king sized bed. So to nod to OG, they'll stick those two in a room together and it'll be hilarious.

[silver-wield]

I has been summoned!?

Honestly, I didn’t think anything about it back when I first played because I wasn’t ship motivated lol Looking at it though, it’s pretty clear the devs meant to imply that Cloud and Tifa are a couple even if they’re not together, because otherwise why not put Tifa with the other woman in their own cell and leave Cloud on his own? It makes no sense except from a ship pov.

I’m betting they get stuck somewhere and have awkward conversations lol it’s too good to pass up!

[vermillionage]

I do agree on this as well. They wanted them to be in one room. Just imagine A/ T and Cloud all in a different cell: We as omniscient observers would have still seen everything including Tifa's or Aeriths reaction to Cloud. But they wanted to show C/T as a unit. Even though we cant see Clouds or Tifas or Aeriths face we kind of can imagine them.

Palpable awkwardness 🤣

I am sure we will get another opportunity for Cloud and Tifa to be awkwardly sharing a space together in Remake pt.2 .

More of NON action touching. Which makes the air between them crackle and cheeks blush and with that: what I DO certainly expect/hope for as well is more of a Tifa /Aerith moment. Aerith realizing more and more what the Cloti feel for each other and how they are so clumsy showing it.

I want Girls talk. Encouraging. The way the devs went in R, I think it really is going to be Aerith kinda nudging Tifa to acknowledge her feelings for Cloud more.

And for the players to accept the LTD is dead.

We need awkward flirting. And Cloti slow burn.

That's what I daydream about (actual footage of me atm)

[ffseven]

[vermillionage]

❤

[nicejewishguy]

Wtf is sephora

It sounds scary

[starcades]

isn’t that the guy with the long white hair from final fantasy

[cherryvane]

Estuans interius

Ira vehementi

Estuans interius

Ira vehementi

[notausername]