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READ THIS BEFORE SENDING IN ANY ASKS

Due to the amount of asks I’m getting regarding certain subjects, there will be certain ones I will no longer answer and will simply delete. I’m listing those topics first with links to where you can find more information. You can further find more information below. Please know that this is due to the fact that people need to look through and see what’s already been answered instead of blindly asking questions.

I’m more than happy to answer anything for clarification purposes or new questions that aren’t shown here, but please go through these before sending in an ask regarding: Tifa Deserving better, Cloud Pining for Aerith/Loving Aerith, Cloud Choosing Aerith over Tifa, anything regarding shipping in Advent Children. Thank you!

Tifa Deserves Better than Cloud/Cloud is a Jerk/Cloud is Selfish

The TL;DR: These are usually related to how Cloud acts in Advent Children. Cloud is suffering from severe depression in AC. They’ve explained multiple times this is over guilt and due to him getting Geostigma. Here’s the answers I’ve provided:

Tifa Deserves Better/Cloud Pines for Aerith

Tifa is too good for Cloud

Cloud is in love with Aerith in AC/Any Advent Children Shipping Related Asks

Tifa is Jealous/Cloud Pines for Aerith

Why is Cloud Unhappy?

One of the Saltiest Posts I’ve Done Regarding This

Would Cloud choose Aerith Over Tifa/Does Cloud Love Aerith more than Tifa?

Tifa is Important to Cloud

More About Why Tifa is Important to Cloud

Lies about Canon Pairings

I need to make one of these because things are getting out of hand and it takes me forever to find things...

Welcome to my blog thing. This is mostly a FFVII blog with a sexy focus on Cloti. I also love me some good Zerith and Aerti.

I’m on Twitter.

I love all of the characters. Don’t come here with anti-bullshit. However, you can absolutely talk as much shit on Hojo as you want to.

I will answer almost any ask. Keep it respectful. I try to explain as best I can, sometimes I can get excited and my answers may get a bit long.

I try to find the humor in everything. I’ll start a post trying to be serious and somehow find something funny in it. For example, during the Ghoul battle, Cloud saves Tifa and Aerith and they get hit by some blue jizz fire. I thought it was funny that Cloud’s flat ass is on display. I will point out stupid shit.

I will respect you and your ships if you respect me and my ships. I think different ships can live in harmony. A difference in opinion on something doesn’t mean you can begin to berate and bully someone. No matter what “side” you’re on, there is a person behind the screen. Remember that.

Don’t be a shitty racist, homophobe, or other nasty type of person. Oh, and #BLM.

When Vincent Valentine finally wakes the fuck up, you will see him take over this blog, but don’t worry, it will still be full of Cloti goodness, too.

Here is my list of things I’ve covered. Take a look and if there’s something I haven’t covered or you want more info on, ask away!

General Posts - Random Stuff

My List of Cloti Fanfiction Favorites Will be updated as much as I can remember to update it. I’m making this post so I can find this list easier...

Nostalgia

Tifa Asks Cloud About Aerith It’s not LTD related

Cloud Falls a Lot

Aerith’s Street Cred

That Wholesome Marlene Reunion

Xenogears and FFVII - Cloud and Fei

HAVE FUN - OG Affection Points System with Remake Story Points

Do I believe in Love at First Sight? (No)

Why Not to Compare FFVII and FFVIII

The New Red Herrings: Biggs and Zack and How Avalanche Tells Us the LTD is Dead

Musings to New Fans Regarding Canon Information and The Shipping Insanity with @silver-wield, @holysmotez, and @otp-oasis-heavenxearth

Totally Canon Chats

Third Wheel Monologue - Barret Wallace

Glad I Didn’t Miss This Opportunity

Costa Del Sol

Vincent the Fortune Cookie

Cloti Specific

Cloud and Chocobo Sam

Case of Tifa and The Kids are Alright

Case of Barret - First Page

How Cloud Looks at Tifa Part 1

Suspicious Scenes

...We’re Already Friends

Cloud Adds to His Life Lessons from Tifa

She Remembered that Comment

Chocobo Cart: Cloud in Screenshots

Cloud Looking Back at Tifa - Chapter 18

Cloud Saves Tifa

Tifa is Important to Cloud

More About Why Tifa is Important to Cloud

Hopes, Dreams, and Curiosities Series - My “Wishlists” for Future Parts of Remake

Part 2 Hopes, Dreams, and Curiosities

Part 3.1 Hopes, Dreams, and Curiosities

My Thoughts on The Lifestream and Highwind Scenes

Nojima on Characters in Remake

Cloud is a Cinnamon Bun

Cloud Doesn’t Like Giving Bad News

Soft for Barret

Marlene is Afraid of Cloud

More Cloud Soft for Barret

Cloud’s Depression During Advent Children

Why Zack is Important to Cloud

Zerith Specific

Why Zack is Important to Aerith

Train Graveyard Series

Train Graveyard Part 1 Falling in the cargo container Triple Arm Grab

Train Graveyard Part 2 Triple Arm Grab

Train Graveyard Part 3 Part 1 of the RUN scene

Train Graveyard Part 3.5 Part 2 of the RUN scene

Train Graveyard Part 4 Cloud suspects a poltergeist

Train Graveyard Part 5 Cloud and Tifa nope the fuck out

My Thoughts on the LTD (Long Term Debate) of FFVII

OG vs Remake Affection Point System Part 1

OG vs Remake Affection Point System Part 2

Shipping Makes Me Question My Sanity

The Future of the LTD Includes links to other blogs as well for further LTD Death analysis and discussion

Why is the LTD Back? Maybe?

“Is Tifa like... your girlfriend?”

Under the Highwind - High vs Low Affection - OG

How I Became a Cloti Fan (Maybe) Discussions on memory and why I probably think I remember something I don’t or feelings I may have never had 20 years ago.

Jessie Asks Cloud About Tifa

So Your Ship (or Theory) Isn’t Canon

Shitposts

WTF Were Biggs and Wedge Thinking?

A Collection of Cloud... Looking at Something...

Back Dat Ass Up.. In to Cloud

“Ghosts Aren’t My Thing”

Drunk History of the FFVII Compilation

Other Interesting Discussions

Rufus Shinra Read the comments through on this one, LOT of great back and forth discussion. Ultimately my thoughts changed from the original post, because it’s okay to do that when you’re presented with new information.

Vincent and Tifa - Are They Related?

iaintyourbro

My FF7 Remake Part 2 Hopes, Dreams, and Curiosities Wishlist

This is for fun. I just played the OG again and took note of things I’m excited to see for Part 2 - or at least can hope for in part 2. These are in no particular order

Barret in a Sailor Suit, Cloud in a Shinra Soldier uniform - because foreshadowing fun, Red XIII in a Shinra Soldier uniform trying to walk

What they’re gonna do with the CPR and Dolphin stuff in Junon - I’m really curious

Corel and Barret’s backstory with Dyne and Marlene

VINCENT VALENTINE

Me being angry at Yuffie for stealing my shit

Gold Saucer

Chocobo Racing

The Gold Saucer Date being a shopping date for the girls instead of a romantic date for Cloud and <player choice>. The other option is avoiding the date portion all together and making it more mission based - they get a warning that they have a spy among them or something like that. Whatever option doesn’t add fuel to the LTD.

I think making the friendship between Aerith and the other members of the team really strong will make her death really heart wrenching - so what better way than to have a great time shopping with her, bonding, laughing, and boom - depression.

Nibelheim is gonna look so cool. I really am looking forward to how they have Cloud and Tifa react.

COSMO CANYON

The Palmer fight in Rocket Town - He must get hit by a truck or the GAME WILL BE RUINED (jk.. partially)

Palmer thinks Cloud looks familiar and won’t stop mentioning it - he was there during the Honeybee Inn dance

The Temple of the Ancients and the Forgotten City are going to look insane I think

Zack comes to get Aerith with his cool wings - assuming he’s actually fully dead - after her death - so she isn’t so afraid of the sky anymore.

If Zack is only alive in a second timeline, we get the Laguna treatment and get to play as Zack

The part where Cloud goes nuts and beats up Aerith - the visual of him as a child trying to stop himself from giving the Black Materia from Sephiroth should somehow still be integrated and have Tifa get a glimpse for foreshadowing. Party members stop him before he actually gets to hit her, but fail to stop him from giving Sephiroth the Black Materia

Cid yelling about TEA

Cid running in HD (I think how he runs in OG is hilarious, so I hope they translate that like they did with Tifa)

I’m hoping they end Part 2 at the Northern Crater right as Cloud breaks - what a cliff hanger.

The Sephiroth “illusion” in the Nortern Crater where Tifa starts to question herself, ultimately making Cloud crack - I think people are going to need a lot of tissues.

Snow gear for Icicle Inn - Barret needs a furry white coat so somebody else can call him a Marshmallow.

Snowboarding will require more logistics to explain how they all get down the mountain. Red and Barret rent a snow mobile and fight the entire time.

One of the mini games at the Gold Saucer is the Honeybee Inn dancing with a few songs to use for difficulty differences

The Battle Square is similar to the Corneo Colliseum so you can have a full party

Here’s my shipper one: more unnecessary touching for Cloud and Tifa - more build up even though it’s slowly killing me…. that Under the Highwind scene better be lit, but that’s for Part 3!

iaintyourbro

I got a lot of what I wished for AND MORE. I'm still in shock and awe....

#ff7r #final fantasy 7 remake #ff7r wishlist #cloud strife #barret wallace #tifa lockhart #vincent valentine #yuffie kisaragi #cloti #cloud x tifa #final fantasy 7 spoilers #final fantasy vii rebirth #ffvii rebirth

iaintyourbro

Do you think that Cloud still would have been with Tifa if Aerith had actually survived? I've always wondered ever since watching Advent Children that if Aerith didn't die, would he have made the same choice to be with Tifa. I ship Cloud with both Aerith and Tifa and I feel like he likes them both, but I also sometimes feel it's just unclear who he TRULY loves.

Hey anon. He will always choose Tifa.

I think it’s made pretty clear who he truly loves. You’re forgetting that he was under a false persona when Aerith knew him. There is no canon evidence that he had any romantic feelings towards Aerith. We only have canon evidence that he felt romantic feelings for Tifa.

Aerith being alive when he falls into the Lifestream would have still resulted in Tifa needing to help him. She’s the only one who knows him well enough to do it and she’s the only one that he’ll open his heart to. Cloud’s desire to join SOLDIER was based on him wanting to impress Tifa and have her notice him.

Mutlishipping is fine, but you can’t claim both are canon when we have tons of evidence stating that he loved Tifa and none that he loved Aerith. It was not up to player choice, ultimately. That’s part of the entire illusion for the first part of the game. Notice you lose the ability to choose after a while. You can’t choose at all after Real Cloud is back. The HA vs LA Highwind scene is based on your early game choices and based on the affection the girl has towards Cloud, not what Cloud feels towards them.

Cloud tells us a lot in the Lifestream. There is not an alternative Lifestream scene, no matter what your choices are.

There’s also no alternative Northern Crater scene when Sephiroth shows us Nibelheim. If people have ignored Tifa to this point, they’re gonna be pretty shocked by this revelation coming from Cloud.

So no, there is no ambiguity. The Compilation of FFVII has shown through dialogue, novels, quotes, and supplemental canon materials that Cloud loves Tifa and always has. His SOLDIER persona creates confusion, but ultimately he loves Tifa.

So... it’s pretty clear that Cloud TRULY loves Tifa and NEVER loved Aerith romantically.

iaintyourbro

Shipping Makes Me Question My Sanity

I learned about the FFVII waifu wars after playing the remake. I played the OG many moons ago, replayed it a few years ago, but really got interested in the character dynamics after playing FFVIIR.

I foolishly looked up “Is the remake pushing Cloud and Tifa more?” I found the shipping wars… That I never knew existed.

You see, I played the OG and it was pretty clear to me that the story went a certain way. In fact, I didn’t even associate FFVII to romance.

FFVII was a story about a villain who was pissed off that a grunt killed him, so he finds a way to come back from the dead through clones that his father made to fuck with said grunt and get revenge on all the humans that wronged his Mother.

(This is my explanation in as few words as possible, because we all know explaining FFVII would take multiple posts).

So why did I look up my question about Cloud and Tifa? Well, I was shocked at how they presented them. I didn’t remember this from the OG. Like I said, I didn’t associate FFVII to romance like I did with VIII, IX, and X. Those were clear. FFVII didn’t have this as a main theme. FFVIIR created extreme sexual tension between Cloud and Tifa.

Keep reading

iaintyourbro

I’m resharing this, cuz Twitter. This is my raw feelings on shipping, and it does still stand. I know a lot more and feel different about certain things, but this all still stands.

The fact that there are people now getting death threats against them for liking a ship blows my mind.

So my addition to this is: Shipping is a something fun to do. It’s something you should enjoy. If you feel that the other ship is affecting you enough to start threatening to take REAL people’s lives, then YOU need to question your sanity.

The people we’re shipping are not real. None of them. I see “tIfA iSn’T rEaL” all the time, but neither are any of the others. This is supposed to be fun, something we enjoy. People express themselves through writing, art, and analysis. They decide to do things to better themselves, like learning a new language. People become friends over shipping.

That’s the normal side of shipping. That’s the bulk. It’s not supposed to be people completely trashing each other and going to such extremes as threatening somebody’s life.

Do you really think the folks creating these games would be okay with this? Do you really think they’d want things to go this far?

dutchdread

Hello, Dutch, I love reading your texts. Now that you've finished Rebirth, I wanted to know what you thought of the date with Tifa at the Gold Saucer. Do you think the fact that you can only kiss Tifa is a sign that the devs want to end the LTD once and for all?

I like to think the DEVs don't make those decisions just to prove people wrong. I'd like for the kiss between Cloud and Tifa to be about Cloud and Tifa, and not Cleriths, so no. I do think in general they decided to be more explicit this time around and leave less wiggle room. Which they have basically already confirmed by stating that the remake will have less room for interpretation.

"In final fantasy VII Remake, there will be much less room for player imagination. This fact will probably change feel of the story considerably. People who know the original might not know quite how to take it. Such is the fear that I have." ~ Nojima

The word he uses is "fear", not "hope". Based on this I'd say that with Rebirth they weren't necessarily intending to put a stop to people making up their own stories, but that it is an unavoidable consequence of telling the story right. With modern graphics and an expanding story you can't really write characters and scenes in ways that can be interpreted a 1000 ways. Because that means writing your characters without a strict identity. They lack clear goals and motivations. It's kinda like the story version of a "spork", by trying to be two things you just kinda end up with a shitty version of both. If you want to tell Cloud and Tifas story as engagingly as possible, then you'll have to have him react to her the way a man in love would, his love should be reflected in his body language and actions. But if you do that, then the LTD is dead, which it now is.

We have a story where Tifa and Clouds courtship is a big part of their continuing character growth, and a game where you're rewarded for maximizing your team members affections for you. But if Cloud and Tifa are already shown being romantically paired even in the most bare bones playthrough of the game, since it's a core part of their story, then you can't have the effort of getting max affection with Tifa culminate at the date with just a hug or something else that could still be sort of misconstrued as not being romantic for the people who can't stand reality. That would be hugely disappointing and anti-climactic, especially since they already hugged in part 1 and already nearly kissed in Gongaga.

No, Tifa and Cloud didn't kiss to disprove Clerith, they kissed because their romance is an integral part of their story, they kissed because you can't have FFVII without having Cloud and Tifas Romance.