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I have come to truly hate the sentence “you could just be polite” because you know… While politeness is nice, there are plenty of situations where people can’t really afford it.

I’ve been thinking about what happened to Mila in France. A lesbian teenager who was insulted, send death threats and vilified for expressing her dislike of Islam, and often, when people talk about situations such as those, their go to answer to justify their discomfort is “yes blasphemy isn’t a law in France, but you could also be polite” or “yes free speech is important but you could also be polite”, “yes shooting up a bunch of cartoonists is bad, but they could also have been polite” and on and on it goes.

But here is the unfortunate and uncomfortable truth: when you are talking of an ideology who yield an immense amount of power worldwild, who opresses people in impressive scales in states where the scriptures are made law, and of a book who - in itself - doesn’t have any rights, there are plenty of situation and cases where politeness is a luxury one can’t afford. And moreover, not everybody’s idea of what’s polite is the same, so who gets to decide? Telling a gay (!!!) teenager that she should be polite toward an idea (an idea, not a person, let that sink in for a minute) that hates her is frankly absurd.

You should be mindful of Muslims, sure, but no, your ideology (no matter which) doesn’t deserve my respect nor my politeness just because it’s sacred to you, it’s not sacred to me and if I think it’s a bad idea, I have every right to say so. Not only are you not forced to listen to me, but moreover my rights don’t end where your feelings begin, and you could just debate instead of asking me to be polite toward a book that wants me dead.

Politeness is nice and sweet but it doesn’t get you anywhere when dealing with issues such as those, you cannot tell people struggling under such ideologies that politeness matters when it comes to fighting their oppression. Because it truly and sincerely doesn’t.

Ideas don’t have rights, they do not deserve my respect nor my tolerence for only just existing, only people do.

a-room-of-my-own

Thank you. Honestly I’m sick and tired with this. Dozens of people were murdered in the name of Islam during the last 5 years in France alone and here we are, shivering in cowardice instead of defending a kid who got mad at an ideology, you expressed it perfectly, that hates her. An ideology that in many countries, oppressed women and kills gay people or at least sends them to jail.

I mean show me one, ONE country, where Islam is the dominant religion, where women have equal rights, gay people aren’t threatened, and racial minorities aren’t oppressed. One. There’s none. And it’s not about wealth. The Emirates are rich beyond measure and they oppress women, and treat foreign, Asian workers like slaves.

Muslim minorities in western countries are extremely invested in minority rights because they’re a minority. In their home countries, those who maintained their citizenship vote for extreme right, religious parties. It’s exactly what happened in Tunisia where polls showed that French-Tunisian voted conservative in majority.

We’re living a resurgence of violent antisemitism that everyone is sweeping under the rug. Look at what happened with Sarah Halimi, and Mireille Knoll. And the protests a couple of years ago where people started chanting death to the jews in Arabic in the streets. Our “intellectuals” are blaming this on social disenfranchisement and the conflict in Israel. No one dares talking about “racial hatred” which it is.

Look at what also happened with the Asian community in Paris who protested to demand safety and protection from the authorities because they’re constantly assaulted, because the word is “Asian people have money” after a man was beaten to death in Aubervilliers. There was barely any coverage or any proper reaction from the government. Why? Because they named their daily aggressors.

I can’t f*cking wrap my mind around the fact that if all this had been committed by a community of white fascists, conforted and encouraged in their violence by, I don’t know, any European philosopher, people wouldn’t dance around calling out fascism, misogyny, homophobia and racial hatred when their see it. This is becoming honestly unbearable. And for the Mila case, I’m frankly irate because if we can’t protect a young girl, we’ve honestly lost our souls.

naliya

You know… Thing is… how many Mila are there in the UAE? In Iran? In Pakistan, Chechnya, Morocco or Turkey? How many of them trying to be heard? How many activists, humanists, LGBT, reformists or atheists in those places? What message is this sending to all the Raif Badawis and Ayaan Hirsi Alis of the world? That the supposed free world won’t defend them any more than anyone else will? Is that truly who we want to be?

Because the truth is that, as bad as it is to have had hundreds of victims of Islamic fundamentalism in the past five years in France, that number is virtually dwarfed by what’s currently happening in the MENA region. The first victims of Islamic Fundamentalism are Muslims themselves, it’s not us, it’s not anyone else. It’s the little girl who went through FGM, it’s the young woman who was honour killed because she wanted to be free, it’s the young gay man who was thrown off a building for loving “wrongly”, it’s that nice muslim father who decided his daughter should be equal, ran a blog calling for Islam to evolve because of it and ended up jailed and flogged for his troubles. It’s a girl trying to go to school, an atheist guilty of apostasy, a journalist trying to report or a woman wanting to take off her veil. It’s not me, it’s not you and it sure as hell is not all those westerners clinching their pearls, crying racism every time someone might point out that the Quran has a lot of bad ideas written in it - as if a book’s “human rights” ought to override those of a 16 years old girl.

I wish all of those people would stop pretending to care about Muslims, because it’s clear that they don’t. If they did they’d care about what consequences it brings about to shield an idea from criticism and they’d think beyond their backyard. When you make Islam immune from scrutiny you are not helping the oppressed, you are not helping the victims, you are enabling their oppressor and executioners instead. You are shutting up all of those who want to seek progress for themselves, who cannot do that without opening Islam up to scrutiny and are trying to tell you that they can’t afford “politeness” because they are currently dying.

If you accept that western Christian Fundies deserve to be called out for their blatant misogyny homophobia and discrimination, and that none of that makes you hateful toward all Christians, then you need to be consistent and admite that Muslim Fundies are not any better, that religious conservatism is not any more progressive simply because it’s warped in a neat Islamic bow. When you believe in human rights, you believe in them in all cases, you do not get to pick and chose when they apply and when they don’t based on what will make you look good on social media. If you can’t admite that, then please stop wasting all of our time and simply say that you don’t care about Muslims living in parts of the world that are far harder to live in as ours, and that you only want to look good on Twitter, it’ll be far quicker.

There is no such thing as one Islam, therefore criticizing it is not bigotery, someone saying they dislike an idea is not an infringement on your rights and it doesn’t make them bigots. Not all Muslims think the same in fact, why are you not defending all the gay girls from Pakistan who might need to be able to say exactly what Mila said?

Ideas don’t have rights, only people do.

sometimeslayla

Are you seriously bringing this on my dash?

Name one country where gay people are accepted at the same level as straights and where no minority is oppressed in any way– no Christian or Jewish country does this either. Blaming disgusting human nature on one religion is absolutely see through, when you’ve done nothing to point out the fact that WORLDWIDE there is no such country. What, is Christianity’s colonialism, slavery, and genocide not that bad to you? The idea that you have this image of Christianity or any other religion as this peaceful contender and then blaming Islam for random extremism that white Christians commit in America daily and that we’ve witnessed under WASPs with the Holocaust is actually so transparent.

You’re defending a gay girl because you think a white person is justified in xenophobia and racism just bc they’re queer? Being able to claim one identity does not excuse you from the villainy of oppressing others. If this girl is expressing Islamophobic sentiment and that’s justifiable, then how can you pretend you care about queer rights or homophobia or any other minority issue for that matter? Just say you agree with her islamophobia and be done with it. Because clearly you have no idea what Islam is about and how many Muslims are GAY. That’s right. We’re gay too and you can’t excuse your blatant racism and xenophobia under the safety flag of LGBTQ+ solidarity. Are you serious with this bullshit right now?

In America Mexicans, Arabs, Indians, Muslims, Immigrant, and Gay people are all suffering hate crimes and dying under the hands of white Christians and their institutionalized oppression against minorities, and you’re freaking using someone’s sexuality as an excuse to say that contributing to that is okay. If you can differentiate between Christians and the KKK then you can sure as hell tell the difference between ISIS and and Islam. If you can tell that school shooters aren’t representative of white men in general, then you can certainly tell that extremism is an occurrence among every human society and does not have a say on any one group of people as a whole. Just like the news reports of gay kids losing it and murdering their parents here in the US isn’t a signifier for gay people being terrorists in general. I cannot believe that you would contribute to all the Muslim and Sikkh and Indian people dying here by saying that spreading xenophobia is okay in any way. No one should receive death threats for expressing themselves unless it’s freaking genocide, but that doesn’t excuse the spread of Nazi beliefs and hurting other minorities by stereotyping ignorantly. In the New Zealand shooting, over 20 children were murdered as they were playing around their mothers, all for what? Because they were brown and Muslim, and because people like you think that it’s okay to excuse islamophobia and encourage hate crimes, and then turn around and act like you care about queer people because they’re also an oppressed minority. Clearly with this kind of display, the only reason you care about queer people is because you’ve either decided it’s the Moral and Socially supported opinion or you’re queer yourself. But had you not ended up being queer, we all know you’d be on the other side committing hate crimes. Because you have no understanding of humanity whatsoever.

Defending a white gay for experiencing backlash when they express xenophobia against some minority group does NOT give you an excuse to pat yourself on the back and reward yourself for hating Muslims and exposing your own xenophobia. Millions of Muslims are gay, just like Christians and Jews– one white gay deciding they hate Islam does not represent the entire LGBTQ community, it erases those of us Muslims who are queer, under the banner of some moral superiority and some terrible privileged ignorance. You’re white, we get it. And go ahead and erase all the horrible shit that humans across time, especially Christians, have done to the queer community, and pretend that it’s Islam that is at the root of global homophobia. We all know you just want to reward each other for being Islamophobic and contribute to the loss of human life we have to experience, without recognizing your own freaking privilege. If you don’t stand up for other minorities, you’re not a supporter of LGBTQ rights, much less human rights. Get out.

And as always the people who understand Islam the least and have little to no knowledge of it are dropping judgements and edicts, instead of leaving that to the Muslims who actually live their religion, including the gay Muslims, or the Muslim scholars. Don’t try to interpret or breakdown another religion’s texts for its people, unless you’re actually Muslim. You don’t know what it is, You have no authority or knowledge to issue verdicts on a religion you barely understand or researched, otherwise. If you haven’t at the very least even spoken to Muslims in real life about their religion, it’s ridiculous to act like you could ever be an expert on other human beings’ real experiences with said religion. Instead your voice just contributes to the overwhelming amount of stereotyping and stigmatizing of Muslim communities and brown people in racist, white, majorly Christian countries. If you wouldn’t say or try to interpret Jewish texts when you’re not freaking Jewish and have no background or understanding of its literature, then why would you do that to Muslim texts? The arrogance here is actually appalling. As though you’d be an authority on something that is personally related to other communities and which they’re actually persecuted for.

And the way youre talking about French Muslims in France, as though they didn’t defend France during WWII, as French citizens and historical representatives of the populace in their own right, as though they don’t deserve to be French unless they’re Christian or atheist. French Muslims have been a part of France’s history for over a hundred years, and they have been holding the fort during battles and wars that you nor anyone else can rewrite history to erase. Their achievements and contributions is why France is still standing here today: because of its French Muslim population. How easily white people turn against people of different religions and skin colors is beyond me.

We’re undergoing total genocide in several different countries right NOW, not to mention the several huge genocides under white Christian leadership who have historically erased both Muslims and Jews from their own lands, and you’re out here acting like spreading Islamaphobia is totes harmless and okay. Kashmir in India and Uighurs in China, not to mention the wars that whites have brought into Muslim countries and now continue killing it’s populations, the massacres and acts of terrorism against brown communities under the basis that they’re Muslim, the fact that terrorism from ISIS targeted Muslim communities in other countries and that’s staunchly ignored by white Europeans… And you’re going around acting like Islamaphobia has no consequences on human people whatsoever? What informational gap do you have?

It’s clear that such carelessness and ignorance doesn’t come from some personal dislike of Islam, because that doesn’t require someone from spreading and defending the spread of hate rhetoric and Islamaphobia. If it’s really about differences in religious views, then the one piece of information you’re missing is quite clearly that we’re humans. And somehow the genocide against us people is something insignificant and unimportant to you in your spread of anti-Muslim speech. Like honestly. Just say you want to have the freedom to express that you hate Muslims for their religion and move on. But dont hide under the umbrella of free speech when this type of xenophobia is literally the reason we’re being killed.

naliya

Oh boy… where to even start with this mess… well I guess by the beginning. Buckle up kids because this is going to be long.

Alright… first thing first: please, tell me WHERE in the posts above was it said that there somehow exists a magical fairy land that’s blessed with no discrimination whatsoever, I’ll answer it for you: Nowhere. This point was literally not made by anyone, so please take your strawman to someone who might get fooled by it, and if I wasn’t sick and tired of people projecting thoughts in my head I never had and making me say things I didn’t, I wouldn’t even bother; but here I am and I’ll be damned if I let anyone take me back to where I was three years ago.

And really, I find it quite hilarious that you are trying to teach me about what it’s like to be LGBT in the west, me, a woman who is LGBT herself. My last relationship was four years with another woman, and while that fact really should be irrelevant to the points I’m making, I’m not going to sit there and let some idiot pretend that my issues, while real, are somehow equal to those of a gay man (for instance) trying to live in Chechnya (If you can even place that on a map, but I won’t be holding my breath). Because they’re not, and I’d have to be pretty damn self centered and unaware of my privileges to try to claim such a thing.

What, is Christianity’s colonialism, slavery, and genocide not that bad to you? The idea that you have this image of Christianity or any other religion as this peaceful contender and then blaming Islam for random extremism that white Christians commit in America daily and that we’ve witnessed under WASPs with the Holocaust is actually so transparent.

Yet more thoughts being put in my head that I never had.

First of all your american problems are irrelevant to the conversation at hand here, I’m not American and it’s not my job to solve them for you. So take your US-centrism where you put your strawman, because I’m not interested in yet another American trying to make everything about themselves when they weren’t even mentioned once in the post they’ve been answering to.

Secondly, I’m not sure what you believe I think Christianity is like, but anyone who has been following me for a while will laugh their asses off at the implication that I somehow believe that it’s peaceful or I don’t know what other bullshit you were trying to project into me.

What I believe, however, is that if Christianity is mostly harmless in the west nowadays, it’s because it was tamed by the Enlightenment and the secular laws that were born from it. None of that can occur if you don’t let people question and criticise the doctrines they were born under, which is why I think it’s important to let Muslims do the same and to let Islam be opened to scrutiny just as Christianity once was.

What do you know about the fall of the old order in Europe? About the French revolution, the forceful removal of the catholic church from public spheres and of the déchristianisation of France? If your answer to all those questions is “not much” then please, stop wasting my time trying to get smart with me by bringing up historical occurrences you clearly have no understanding of, because I’m not interested.

Please, point out to me where the xenophobia and racism is. I’m all ears. If I say “Islam, as an idea is not perfect and should be open to be criticized” tell me where the racism is in this sentence and then, maybe I’ll give it to you. I’ll wait but I don’t think you can because ideas don’t have rights, only people do.

And when you’re done explaining it to me, perhaps you can go and make your point to: Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Zineb El Rhazoui, Maajid Nawaz, Amhed Abdel Salam, Maryam Namazie, Waleed Al-Husseini, Yasmine Mohamed… etc.. etc…

I would tell you to go and say it to Raif Badawi as well, but since he’s a bit hard to reach at the moment - seeing as he is currently jailed and flogged in Saudi Arabia for the only crime of blogging about the bad ideas within islam - I’ll give you Ensaf Haidar’s twitter account instead, his wife, now a political refugee in Canada. Go and explain to her that criticisms of islam are inherently bigoted and that as such her husband deserves what’s happening to him, I dare you.

Did you ever bother to listen to those people only just once? Did you ever bother to listen to any of the eastern free thinkers, lgbt or atheists that you believe a 16 years old might be insulting for only just disliking an idea? Have you ever bothered to listen to how they believe their problems can be solved or are you the kind of person who will go and call them native informants for daring to think freely? Because all of those people, fighting for their rights, fighting for their freedom, are screaming at the top of their lungs to let them criticize islam while you do nothing but shut them up because your western ass (sitting in the safety of western secular laws) feels uncomfortable.

In America Mexicans, Arabs, Indians, Muslims, Immigrant, […] Because you have no understanding of humanity whatsoever. “

I’m not even going to bother with this drivel because all I see here is an American going “me, me, me, myself and I” once more. Again take your US-centrism and your insults to someone who might be interested. This isn’t about you, stop trying to make it so.

Again, point out to me where I hated on Muslims, find one sentence where I did that? Similarly, where did I say that Muslim LGBTs don’t exist? I literally made a point of saying that Muslims should be respected, because as people they have rights, when ideas don’t. Criticizing Islam =/= hating on Muslims, stop trying to conflate the two because you cannot see the world in nuances. This sort of strawmaning will only fool morons and children but it won’t fool anyone who has a slight understanding on how the world works or on how eastern LGBT, atheists, free thinkers and reformists are treated in the MENA region. Pretending those issues don’t exist will not make them go away. I’m sorry to break it to you.

A lesbian teenager has every rights to dislike an idea that hates her, she has every rights to hate Catholicism for this reason and has every right to hate Islam if she wishes. Islam is not a person, everyone is free to disagree with it if they so desire without having to withstand death and rape threats and needing to be pulled out of school for their own safety. If you believe they’re wrong, argue with them instead of trying to make them abide to non-existent blasphemy laws and pretend that any scrutiny is bigotry when it’s not.

Are you one of those people who believes Charlie Hebdo deserved to get shot up for making fun of Islam? You are, aren’t you?

You’re white, we get it. And go ahead and erase all the horrible shit that humans across time, especially Christians, have done to the queer community, and pretend that it’s Islam that is at the root of global homophobia. We all know you just want to reward each other for being Islamophobic and contribute to the loss of human life we have to experience, without recognizing your own freaking privilege. If you don’t stand up for other minorities, you’re not a supporter of LGBTQ rights, much less human rights. Get out.

The only person who erases horrible shit that’s happening to people is you, not me. You’re the one who is going around pretending that Islam should be shielded from criticisms, word vomiting about irrelevant shit to the conversation at hand to try to deflect the conversation away from where it has been, constantly inventing points that were never made instead of answering those right in front of your eyes.

God forbid some people might be pointing out that it’s not right that little girls get shot in the face for wanting to go to school, right? God forbid a blogger who was jailed for blasphemy might have his name be spoken out loud once in a blue moon, right? No one wants to reward anything, we want people to accept that Islam is an idea that you are free to believe in or not, and that as such people are free to dislike it as they are free to dislike any other ideas. None of this has anything to do with standing up for minorities or LGBT rights, and please, stop trying to speak of human rights when it’s plain as day that you don’t understand them.

There is no such thing as one islam, no idea is pure once they have left a brain and they are what people make of them, and when they’re used to oppress, kill and discriminate it is important to let people point it out. It’s that simple. None of that is about erasing anything else, because amazingly, human suffering is not a competition and empathy isn’t a pie that one only has a finite amount to give or to take.

“ And the way youre talking about French Muslims in France, as though they didn’t defend France during WWII, as French citizens and historical representatives of the populace in their own right, as though they don’t deserve to be French unless they’re Christian or atheist. French Muslims have been a part of France’s history for over a hundred years, and they have been holding the fort during battles and wars that you nor anyone else can rewrite history to erase. Their achievements and contributions is why France is still standing here today: because of its French Muslim population. How easily white people turn against people of different religions and skin colors is beyond me. “

Again more strawmaning, that’s your thing isn’t it? Literally no one said anything about Muslims place in French history. You’re the only one bringing that up to try to accuse me of … something. I’m not sure of what but definitively something.

Please refrain from talking of French history because it does nothing but make you look completely idiotic and ignorant. As pointed out above it’s pretty clear that you don’t know much about French history, because if you did, you’d know the history behind Laicité, and France’s complicated relationship with religion.

… I’m really becoming quite bored of pointing out the strawman arguments here, I feel like a broken record. Again none of what you just said has ANYTHING to do with the question of whatever or not people should be free to criticize an Idea. And to be honest, I really have no interest in discussing history with someone who thinks that talking of “the whites” actually make sense outside of their US-centric bubble.

No one is saying that bigotry against Muslims doesn’t exist, you’re the only one trying to put those thoughts in my head because you cannot answer my points. So please, take a deep breath and tell me: Am I free to disagree with your idea, yes or no? Does any of that excuses all the atrocities committed in the name of islam, yes or no? Should people living in the MENA be allowed to be critical of the cultures they grew up in, yes or no?

No, it’s not what I have been saying. Please stop making me say things I didn’t, it’s exhausting. And yes it has everything to do with my personal dislike of organised religions as institutions and instruments of control, you do not get to decide for me of what I am thinking. Sorry to break it to you.

So like, honestly, just say that you want blasphemy to be a law, and be done with it, just say that you don’t care about all the people being killed, jailed, thrown off buildings and silenced because of such laws in Islamic theocracies and stop wasting my time.

On that, I’ll leave you with one sentence to ponder on: “No idea is beyond scrutiny, no people are beneath dignity - Maajid Nawaz.”

#dumblr #religion #but what about ze wHiTeS

tiny-little-bird

I’m sorry, but am I the only one who finds this so fu*king weird?

Like, D&D were like, ok Kit, we want you to be panting heavily, and have this dead look on your face, in your eyes, just as when you were resurrected in season 6, mkay? To get a better idea, just watch the resurrection scene, here, mhm yep, THAT’S exactly what we want you to do.

Like why the hell would they make him do, THAT, during a “romantic” moment? If they meant to create this BIG romance between the two? His reaction was so out of place. It 100% mirrors his season 6 reaction of horror, and shock upon realising, “this is wrong”, “something’s wrong”, “I shouldn’t be here”.

He literally has the same face/reaction in both scenes.

In his scene with D@ny, he looks nervous, ashamed and guilty, like “what I’m doing is beyond dishonorable.” But he has to do it, he has to leave his honor behind, for his family, for those he loves, for the realm.

Like for real now, if someone I was sleeping with, looked at me like that, while panting heavily in that way, I’d be worried and more than probably be like, emh, what’s wrong? U okay? I’d freak out a little.

Why would D&D make Kit act like that? They would not have let this take in, if it wasn’t exactly what they wanted out of Kit. Which is bizarre, isn’t Jon “madly in love” with her? He looks like he’s having an inner monologue or something, (2nd gif) “to do this, or not to do this, to do this, or not to do this.” And then, in the end (4th gif), he succumbs to “One for the team I guess.”

I just find this so, so weird/odd.

soleilpirate

I only saw this because it is tagged Kit Harington and I track his tag.

And I can’t believe you have stopped to the level of disparaging Kit’s talent as an actor. I gt that you love your ship and I get that it hurts that it’s not canon. That is what fan art and fanfic are for. And meta of your characters. It’s great, go ahead and ship them. I can clearly see that Jon loves Sansa. If you want it to be more, be my guest.

But.

Do not sit there and tell me that Jon is doing something he is not. Kit is SUCH a talented actor, he is GOOD at subtle. In fact, those two scenes ARE similar, in one regard. Jon is coming to life in both those scenes. One is horribly traumatic and all he wanted to do after that was flee. “My Watch is ended.” “I’m tired of fighting! It’s all I’ve done since we left home! “If I fall, DON’T bring me back.”

Now he is coming to life again, and it’s for the most beautiful of reasons. Love.

Kit and Emilia have incredible chemistry together. Therefore their characters around to have incredible chemistry. Don’t ship them, it’s your perogative. I get it. In the Pirates of the Caribbean fandom, I DETESTED the ship of Jack x Elizabeth. Cannot stand it. But I cannot deny that the characters have superb chemistry, because they fucking do.

#lkjgfgggggggggggfffff #jonsa shippers....stop its just embarrassing #got #some shippers really take their OTP to a next level #and get waaaaaaay to personally involved

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