If it’s a cinematic I will fucking lose my shit
i was too excited about this that i didnt even notice the broken arabic!!!! it should be مطلوب not م ط ل و ب
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If it’s a cinematic I will fucking lose my shit
i was too excited about this that i didnt even notice the broken arabic!!!! it should be مطلوب not م ط ل و ب
If it’s a cinematic I will fucking lose my shit
someone: draws mccree and reaper in art together
me: cool
them: ‘do not tag as mcreyes’
i dont trust moira,
sifted through this
I'm the last anon, sorry if my message came across wrong, I agree with you completely! I meant that mcr//eyes shippers ignore this power imbalance so much they don't even think about how fucked up their ship is. when people ship them, they paint gabe as an abuser who used his power over jesse to demand things jesse had no real way of refusing. young jesse would have a legitimate reason to believe that refusing his commander's orders might result in him being sent to jail. this ship is 100% gross
ty for clearing it up! and ya god theyre just fucking ... Gross......
one of the worst things about mcr//eyes is something that most people overlook in arguments and that's the fact that jesse doesn't have a choice (also canonically voiced in retribution). him being a minor is bad enough, but his "options" were join BW or rot in prison. the imbalance of power is bigger than just commander-employee, jesse has no option to even quit his job if gabe does something wrong. he has no right to say no to whatever gabe wants. yikes. luckily gabe isn't an abuser!!!
ok but gabe ISNT an abuser. if you willingly believe this man would have let a KID rot in prison, youre shit luck out of your mind. its not like mccree had a gun held against his head and gabe said “join overwatch or die”, mccree was presumably the only one given the option to join overwatch because he was A MINOR. gabe gave him the OPTION to go to jail with the rest of the deadlock, or to join overwatch and sort his shit!
it literally says in mccrees bio that he wanted to pursue a path of justice and left overwatch of his own volition.
their banter in retribution isnt gabe saying “i own and control you”, it’s gabe saying “im your commander and i will take blame for this.”
jesse was vocally upset! and things dont always go the right way! judging from how mccree is upset, this is probably the first time gabe went off-script for the greater good.
also remember; gabe told mccree that he wasnt allowed to kill antonio. then he did it himself, because he is the commander, and he will personally take the fall for his teammates.
gabriel “i would take a bullet for my team” reyes, an abuser? no.
the entire retribution mission was gabriel wanting to avoid ^^^^ THAT ^^^^ happening again, he doesnt want to RISK innocent lives.
a man of color being a complex character isnt him being ‘an abuser’, its on you for missing the entire point.
anyway!
reyes and mccree are father and son.
isnt it a thing in traditional japanese culture that you cut your hair when youve been shamed / exiled / disgrace / dishonor
so like…
discuss?
good addition @tepperz ! thank u!
What a lovely day to remember that mccree and Reyes are father and son and mcreyes shippers should line up in a neat line so I can snap their necks individually
Please snap my neck. I want to die.
You certainly deserve it
Gabe and Jesse aren’t father and son. That’s fanon. Also racist. (Even if they were, it’s fiction.)
In case nobody has heard of bitterhealer before, posts like these are common. Also crosstagged for attention.
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my life will never know peace so long as people in the overwatch fandom keep insisting their fanon is canon
mccree and reyes aren’t fucking related, people can ship them if they damn well please, they’re grown ass adults
mccree and reyes are father and son and mercy is a lesbian
RACIST.
even if it is fanon, lets review the facts.
gabe met mccree when they were 38 and 17, respectively. already there is a major age gap that would be inappropriate.
not to mention, there is an inherent abuse of power! gabriel is a COMMANDER while mccree is a much younger agent.
gabriel reyes was looking after mccree because mccree was a kid who happened to be in a really shitty situation (re: the deadlock gang), and you can tell by the retribution comic that theyre close in a familial way. we also know gabe would do anything to protect his family, im particularly fond of the theory that gabe killed antonio himself to protect mccree, his son/mentee.
also, if you want to talk about racsim; dont you think portraying an afrolatino man going after a 17 yr old is playing on the idea that moc (namely brown/black men) are predators is a bit racist? cuz i sure as fuck think so!
mcreyes is bad, enables abuse of power / pedophilia (the concept of ‘waiting until legal age’ and child grooming) and with the regard of stereotypes against brown/black men can be racist esp with how the fandom treats him anyway
dad/son gabe and mccree is good, shows a healthy and complex found familial relationship between two moc centered around protection
edit: would you date someone you used to babysit when they were a child and you were far older than them?
my problem w this is that like
1. never confirmd canon that he and genji were to be a couple, only fanon assumption bc of gency
2. brown junkrat, in my good arab/muslim household? i think the fuck not! i’d rather not have a brown man posing as a bomb maniac, thanks!
3. reaper in a corset with exposed chest and thighs did you mean the fetishization of latino men?
isnt it a thing in traditional japanese culture that you cut your hair when youve been shamed / exiled / disgrace / dishonor
so like...
discuss?
Quick Reasons Not To Trust Moira in Retribution
1) The wording in her Hero Profile is just vague enough to imply she is a Talon agent at the time of the Retribution mission.
“The shadowy Talon organization had already been supporting her for years, aiding her experiments in exchange for utilizing the results for their own purposes.”
2) Moira’s interactions with Reyes during the Retribution point to her egging him on, pressuring him, or attempting to “get under his skin”. The most notable one involves Moira saying she wishes she could go to rhe masquerade (of Venetian Carnival). Reyes says he is surprised because she doesn’t seem like the kind of person to enjoy that.
Moira replies, “There are a lot of things you don’t know about me.”
3) The major bosses utilize technology or “enhancements” that are originally from Overwatch agents.
The Heavy Assault Tank: uses Rocket Charge. Originally from the Crusaders. Canonically used by Reinhardt in animated shorts and comics.
The Assassin: uses what appears to be Blink and/or Recall. The chronal accelerator technology was specifically made for Tracer by Winston. If this is true about the Assassin, it also severely limited the time range of Retribution. Canonically appears in multiple shorts and comics (by Tracer).
The Sniper: uses a form of Shadowstep and/or Wraith. Canonically appears in multiple shorts and comics by Reaper.
The last one is the most interesting because it is unique to Reyes and his biotic “enhancements” that he accrued during SEP.
However -
There is one other person who has access to Reyes’ biodata - and the technical knowledge and ability to manipulate and recreate that in other ways (Biotic Grasp, Fade) - to make new technologies, enhancements, and abilities out of that.
Moira.
4) Related to Point 3, Moira has canonically stolen technology from Mercy. We are also told by Geoff Goodman during Moira’s Blizzcon panel that she took Wraith from “Reaper” and “improved” it. Moira has no qualms about taking other people’s research, property, or abilities and then redesigning or reworking them for her own purposes.
5) Moira is the only person who appears HAPPY during the intro video. The later statements she makes where she tells Reyes that he did the right thing by killing Antonio are shady as all hell.
Both of these appeared to be “coincidentally” tied to the sudden rise of Vialli and Maximilien, and Akande overthrowing Akinjide in the wake of Antonio’s death. This becomes significantly less “coincidental” if you consider that Moira may be a Talon agent, or be getting financial support from one (or all) of them.
6) During Reyes’ debriefing with Morrison, Amari, and Lacroix, there are images of two Talon operatives - a Trooper and a Heavy Assault tank.
The third image is of Moira.
(Comparison image)
Remember, Blackwatch continues to operate while suspended. Whatever occurs between Gabe, Jack, Ana, and Gérard during Gabe’s Retribution debriefing isn’t enough to make him leave, nor enough to make McCree leave in the immediate aftermath. Both Gabriel Reyes and Jesse McCree go on to help the Overwatch Strike Team by recovering intel on Null Sector during Null Sector’s Uprising. Genji stays on the team as well, and eventually helps arrest Akande Ogundimu, who is now the third Doomfist.
However, we do not know what happens to Moira after Retribution.
Speculation/Guess: in my opinion, the entire Retribution mission - and Gabriel’s motivations - make considerably more sense if you look at it like this:
The mission WAS intended to grab Antonio, run, and interrogate him later. It does not seem like Gabriel was lying here. In fact, MCCREE originally wanted to kill Antonio, but is told by Gabriel that they’re not going to do that.
However, Antonio reveals: 1) that he was anticipating this move by Blackwatch, 2) that he expected his “friends” to help him walk free from Blackwatch a week later, and 3) that he expected to hurt Blackwatch/Overwatch again.
This is the moment when Gabriel realizes -
He’s been betrayed by one of the three Blackwatch agents in the room with him.
(Note who else is “in frame” but out of focus during this moment).
This is not a sudden turn-about in motivations by Gabriel Reyes -
But instead, the clear and distinct realization that he has walked right into Antonio’s (and Talon’s) grasp.
And letting Antonio live is the LEAST of his worries.
The far bigger threat is the person IMMEDIATELY behind him.
And she knows it too.
my hot take on the cutscene
today on /r/overwatch........
this is what some of yall racists make me think of when you say jesse mccree is a tanned white man
Thank you, jesus fuckin christ
@mccreeandme ppl honestly dont know how to be fucking normal! with that being said: mccree is a man of color and in this house we stan!
Wow! What a great day to remember that Jesse McCree isn’t white!!!
do yall think mccree spends a few hours in a tanning bed every day or
ok then @ ppl still skeptical bc you dont wanna believe your fave is brown: lets compare mccree to ppl with lighter skin in the same panels/scenes...
hmmm mccree seems to be brown here, standing next to ol’ white gerard
thats odd! mccree is STILL brown!
brown mccree!
STILL very noticeably brown!
hes BROWN
oH AND WHATS THIS?
BROWN