if other queers dont stop referring to the south as "scary states" ..some of us live here you know

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if other queers dont stop referring to the south as "scary states" ..some of us live here you know
"rocky would hate stratt because she hurt his bestie" plausible, even likely. "rocky wouldn't hate stratt because he understands the stakes of needing to save the actual world" nuanced, intellectually stimulating. "stratt would hate rocky because her ex wife whom she killed is happier with him" intriguing, avant-garde.
#7 billion fucking people on earth weren't enough but you'll die for the alien. sure. no yeah. sure.
i appreciate emily wilson a lot because she doesnt hesitate to state very clearly that her translations are not inherently feminist just because she's a woman, and is very upfront about not entertaining gender essentialism when her colleagues' translations are criticized as "bro-y" or "masculine" just because theyre translated by men
cis girl grace is one of those really annoying women who's like "omg women don't like me because i'm special and different XD" and it's actually because she's a bitch who thinks herself superior to other women
she's GNC with ridiculously long hair she never cuts because cutting it would mean actually confronting it and she genuinely does not have the capacity to do that. she only wears sports bras + men's t-shirts from walmart + oversized pants + sneakers. has the horrible thing where u walk into a bathroom as a gnc woman and the whole place goes silent like a cowboy entering a saloon. during high school she let some of the popular girls put makeup on her in the school bathroom and it left her itchy and in tears (she did not realise she was being bullied)
she had one (1) hookup with a dude during undergrad who was unsubtle enough for her to catch the hint, had terrible sex with him, and never spoke to him again. she's sworn off men and she's "too different for other women XD" etc. stratt puts a much heavier burden onto female grace than she does male grace and grace takes it grudgingly, but she takes it. she definitely resents stratt, who is at least capable of performing femininity better than she is; grace deludes herself into thinking stratt has somehow had it easier when she has definitely not
i love queerplatonic relationships where one of them is aroace and the other isn't. i love when the allo character has a crush that fades over time. i love when they don't care what they are to each other as long as they're together. i love when romance is an option that they don't choose. i love when both aros and allos feel fulfilled without romance or sex.
Sometimes I'm like "Ryland Grace is important #representation for those of us whose dissertations are kind of stupid and bad" and while I am mostly joking, I'm serious when I say it's actually really important to me that he was not proven right. His theories about non-water-based life did not pan out and were never vindicated. ("The Goldilocks Zone is for Idiots" is also clearly in support of this argument, it's not a standalone argument about life in extreme temperature ranges, it immediately registered to me as part of the "you are being limited by your reliance on imagining water-based life" argument, Eridians living at superheated ammonia temperatures does not really "prove him right".) Like obviously you can't prove a negative, of course - there's no way to know if there is or isn't some other non-water-based life out there - but he was not proven right. He was not vindicated in the Eyes of Science. And he keeps discovering cool new things anyway. You live and you learn and you're not always right and That's Fine. Your life is what you make it. You don't have to be married to the One Big Idea you had in grad school. And sometimes you're not right the first time but that doesn't have to be the end of it all for you. Sulking about it does not make you happy or fulfilled, exploring new things makes you happy and fulfilled. And there are always new things to learn. Moving on, exploring new things and being open to new experiences, that's the way to live.
the eva stratt in my mind is a conglomeration of movie stratt and book stratt because god fucking bless sandra huller put her entire pussy into that performance, but while weir is bad at character writing (women especially) he IS disconcertingly good at coming up with plots that generate interesting character concepts through circumstances... which due to story cuts the movie sadly missed out on.
it's really interesting looking back at both iterations of the story and how stratt and grace's rapport hinges on unrequitedness. there's obviously the karaoke scene in the movie acting as grace's bid for human connection vs stratt's necessary refusal in order to do her job. the book rarely if ever interrogates stratt's interpersonal relationships in the project and how her sense of duty and utilitarianism extends to them (well, aside from grace. more on that in a sec). She's a History major and an administrator and She Loves Humanity, but it's a characteristic that when analyzed deeper rings pretty hollow (possibly because the author thinks social analysis/critique in science fiction is stupid and thus doesn't exactly have much to say about People like someone in the humanities would. SAD!) so that's an addition to her character from the movie that i'm deeply pleased about. what i don't like as much is that the bid for connection starts from grace.
because book stratt and grace? the one sidedness of their rapport is the driving emotional conflict of the entire pre-launch plotlineāand of grace's character development throughout the whole book.
like most scientists on the team, grace was brought onto the project by force, but he's the only one who fulfilled his purpose, was allowed to return to his own life, and then came back of his own volition, out of a sense of personal duty and responsibility. which is the reason stratt takes him back on! and why she begins to rely on him more and more, as an administrator, as a mediator, as a scientist, as an advisor. she has all the more reason to do that when she discovers he's coma resistant, but she was already doing all that baby!
grace spends the rest of their relationship half-assing that sense of responsibility. one thing i adore about book phm is how merciless it is with grace's "modesty" "insecurity" and "social anxiety". children are easy to dote on. they're not stupid, obviously, but on an interpersonal level they're not your equal, they have no way to actually demand accountability from you and call your ass out. he doesn't actually think he's a failure, he's not blind he should know damn well he's not like the other scientists. "science lapdog", "ooo i'm just a little guy cmonnnn i'm just a middle school teacher", he downplays his own importance because if he genuinely grappled with the level of responsibility she holds him to towards the people in the project he'd run like a fucking dog.
he is a good man AND he is a coward. stratt's relationship with him verges on the tension between those coexisting truths. he is both someone she wants to respect but can't, someone she can rely on but has to act behind his back least he realizes. she WANTS them to be equals, she WANTS him to understand. on the day the hail mary is scheduled for launch she paces HIS prison cell like SHE'S the caged animal, trying to get through to the glimpse of the man she saw that day, the one who barged into an FBI guarded facility, looked atlas in the eye and told her scoot over, i'm carrying this with you. she cares about him. she wouldn't feel so betrayed if she didn't. please understand why i'm doing this to you. please understand why i need you to be that fundamentally good man. i am tied to the tracks right next to you. and as far as she is concerned, ryland grace dies on earth saying "no".
Tags from OP, because they are also gold:
#eva stratt is in possibly the loneliest position of power anyone has ever filled#she has the weight of the entire world on her back and ryland grace storms into her lab and demands he shares part of that load and when no#one else will do IT HAS TO BE HIM he fucking bails out on her#of course she is anything but an idealist so she knew perfectly well this was a possibility and prepared for it in advance#but the personal betrayal remains. how she didn't rip his throat out is beyond me i would've wrung his neck like a goose
Yes to OP. I love your read of Eva Stratt and I agree that neither the book nor the film explains her perfectly. The film shows much more emotion and in a sense Eva Stratt is more likable. I loved the talk on the deck and the karaoke scene. But the book shows more of her workings and the choices she needs to make. There, she is like a frog in a slowly boiling pot, every decision making it harder for her to turn around (not that she was ever going to deny the call to action).
Book or film, her story is a tragedy. Not in a sad way, but in the sense that it was always going to end this way for her. Readers always knew she would do anything to succeed. Watchers always knew that she wasn't afraid to send astronauts to their death. It's an old song, it's a sad song, it's a tragedy.
Yes to 'Grace came back willingly to help, which is why Stratt trusts him'. Lokken and I imagine quite a few other people came there because they were either forced or because they felt like they 'had to' help the project (this also include Stratt herself in my opinion). In the book she has him join her on her strange quests to help her understand the science (see the meeting with Lokken or Redell). But the most telling moment is the conversation when Stratt decides to go for the coma-resistant astronauts; she already knows what she needs to do, but she wants Grace's input. And straight up: such an important decision just shouldn't be shouldered by one human. That is just unfair to said human. And who does she go to?
Yes to 'He would run like a fucking dog if he stood still and thought about responsibility'. Grace has these mental gymnastics On Lock! It is amazing how much impostor syndrome and avoidant behaviour one narrator can contain. When they blow up Antarctica in the book, Grace has this peculiar moment: Stratt Leclerc and him are standing on the Vatt staring at the ice. Grace stares at Stratt and Leclerc and thinks that these two have 'the greatest authoroty and power invested in them in the whole world'⦠Grace does not understand that Stratt would not have done that had he told her it wasn't worth it. There are three powerfull people standing on that deck and Grace doesn't even know it.
Yes to 'she wants them to be equals and she wants him to understand'. People have verbally fought Stratt all through the book. Lokken, Leclerc, Redell, the whole piracy debacle, every world leader and politician and most of all Grace himself. YET, there is only one person she ever listens to. Three guesses who. She wants to be on equal footing with him, but I also think she knows he cannot meet her there. Grace is willing to help in his own way, but he cannot shoulder the responsibility that Stratt is carrying. Stratt cannot go and meet him halfway, her position as director does not allow that. In the end she is BEGGING him to agree and understand.
Yes, by the end of the project Grace is doing much more than just teaching the astronauts. Yes, the others see him as a second in command. Yes, he has been present for every major meeting. But I don't believe for ONE second that Stratt has given him more than he could carry. And do I think that is because Grace is perfect and could do anything? OH HELL NO. Grace freaks out when faced with too much responsibility. Which tells me that Eva Stratt knew EXACTLY what she could give to him. Which means that she knew he could not help her shoulder the heavier things. She knows he would have refused and I wonder if that ever made her feel lonely.
And when he refuses the Big Call, as he had refused for all that time, I know for sure that I would have cried. Had I been Eva Stratt, I would have cried; for him but also myself. Because it would have meant that his refusal sealed her fate as well. It was always going to end this way.
Re: Grace somehow managing to write a paper that destroyed his career being unbelievable and etc, a) you are absolutely correct here and b) my personal take since reading the book, where there's a blink-and-you'll miss it reference to Grace being really done with academia already by the time he wrote it is that he's one of those people who had an absolutely miserable PhD experience and felt stuck by the sunk cost fallacy of it all, which may have lead to him sort of self-sabotaging his career in other ways we don't know as much about.
Like, he felt like he put too much work in to just leave/quit, but at the same time, that's what he really wanted to do. And Grace is clearly someone who hates making decisions and choices for himself. He just wants someone to tell him what to do -- or in this case, that he's not allowed to do it anymore. So he got a postdoc but just started sort of quiet-quitting the whole thing, and everyone was really frustrated with him and his performance already. So when some controversy came along at the conference? It was a neat and tidy excuse to get rid of him.
Ohh interesting! And something I can also see. The whole thing makes a lot more senseāand also feels a lot more resonant to his character and his emotional arcāif he is kind of lying to himself about what actually went down and what everybody else thinks about him.
@bicherrim wrote something along somewhat similar lines in the comments of the post too:
I donāt remember where I read it, but I like the concept that Grace wasnāt actually ousted/blackballed from academia at all, it just feels better to him to frame it that way ā in reality, he couldnāt handle the criticism his paper received, lost his shit, and then afterwards was so embarrassed that he dropped out of the field entirely so he wouldnāt have to face anyone about it.
And both of these options feel way more believableāthat āI was kicked out because they couldnāt handle my UNCONVENTIONAL IDEASā is an ego-soothing narrative he built up around what happened to avoid acknowledging that leaving was his choice. Ending up as a middle school science teacher was clearly making him much happier than academia wasāis it because this is something that feels more genuinely fulfilling and meaningful than the relentless pressure cooker gristmill that is academia? Is it because children can never meaningfully be peers and canāt criticize him, and among 13-year-olds heāll always be unquestionably the smartest person in the room? Little of column A, little of column B, probably. And he can do that while also clinging to this fantasy of being Astrobiologyās Alfred Wegener and Someday Everyone Will See I Was Right And They Were So Unfair To Me, and crucial to the fantasy is that itās incumbent on everyone else to change their minds about him, not him to do anything.
And I like how the movie does allude to this interpretation that thereās some willful mental rewriting of what actually happened on Graceās part:
STRATT: Do you stand by what you wrote?
GRACE: I was fired for standing by what I wrote.
STRATT: You were fired for calling the leading scholar in your field a āstaggering waste of carbonā at the UNESCO conference in Denmark.
GRACE: You⦠you heard about that, huh?
Stratt like. You werenāt disliked for your ideas, idiot, you were disliked for your behavior. The problem wasnāt that you defended an unpopular idea, the problem was getting assholish and unprofessional about it. Luckily for you the world is ending and I donāt have the time to worry about your attitude!
And Stratt unintentionally is providing everything Grace actually wants: someone who will unpromptedly tell him āI need you for your brilliant and unconventional ideas⦠and also you do not get a choice in the matter.ā
āasexuals write the best smut lolā so true! quick question btw how do you feel about aces who donāt engage with any of that stuff. like at all.
I've seen so many posts lately like "trans men have got to get more feminine" and it's lowkey pissing me off because we haven't even normalized trans men being masculine yet. Have you not been paying attention to trans men when they talk about being kicked out of LGBT spaces for "appearing too cishet" like can we lock in and understand that sexuality and oftentimes gender aren't something you can visually tell before we start trying to normalize something that's already normalized
nip over to troy, bit of rough and tumble, big horse, bish bash bosh, back home to ithaca. simple as
ladies⦠has anyone ever told you itās okay to be feminine š©· iām sure no one has ever ever ever reinforced this deeply held secret, thatās itās okay for you to be feminine. š©· i know the world totally tries to tell you that you have to be manly and masculine and grow your body hair and eat as much as you want and get strong and stand up for yourself and make waves and take up space and show your bare face and show your anger. but itās okay to do the exact opposite actually. š©· itās okay to shrink yourself down to the exact same mold every other woman is expected to conform to. š©· did you know that itās okay to be feminine. š©· did you know itās okay to be feminine. š©· did you know itās okay to be feminine. š©· has anyone ever told you itās okay to be feminine. š©· will you be feminine. š©· will you be feminine. š©· will you be feminine. š©· will you just be feminine already. š©·š©·š©·
if a trans man needs to hide the fact that he's trans in order to access any form of male privilege, i simply do not believe that is real privilege. i will, and never will, accept that the closet is a privilege. any queer person can go into the closet to access "privilege," and it's dumb when you all try to argue that bs too. are you not tired of making the exact same arguments about recycled queer groups every 5-10 years? nothing is ever new except the New Queer Enemy really IS privileged and evil this time, we promise!
Tbh, I think everyone getting very attached to Tall Adrianā¢ļø kinda makes them miss the potential of the canon reality that Eridians average at 50cm tall.
Grace is living on a planet of toddler sized rocks with twice his strength. If at ANY point he forgets to look where heās going he is Going Trip Over An Ambassador. Unstoppable force vs. immovable object except Grace is very much stoppable.
Eridians either get used to talking to his shins, craning on their tippy toes to get a good look at his face, or begin forcing him to sit criss-cross applesauce for literally any important meeting. Picture him joining the Erid equivalent of a UN press conference and having to curl up his awkward water body and hug his knees for the whole thing.
He can conceivably be picked up by an alien the size of a hard helmet against his will. Heās surrounded by space roombas with perfect memories and attention spans shorter than his San Francisco classroom who canāt believe heās incapable of solving complex math in three seconds. He has step stools around his house for them to climb so he can feel like heās ālooking them in the eyeā even though Eridians think thatās stupid since they lack both eyes and directional perception.
His students are probably all palm sized. Once he starts teaching heās fighting cuteness aggression all day every day. They could all break his fingers with hands the size of a button. That knowledge does not stop his cuteness aggression. THIS IS GRACEāS REALITY.
(goverment voice) we need to protect the children from pornography so our plan is to remove their eyes so they would never see something so traumatic. if you are against removing children's eyes you are basically a pedophile
IDK I think if cis men are being told that being fat will lower their testosterone and make them Insufficiently Masculine, and cis women are being told that being fat will raise their testosterone and make them Excessively Masculine, and fat trans people are being denied the right to medically transition if they're fat, and thin trans people are warned against HRT because it will make them fat (and this is said about both testosterone and estrogen HRT), and androgynous-presenting people are told that only thin people count as androgynous...
Then maybe...
Maybe...
Maybe the weight loss industry is just using Gender to enforce fatphobia.
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