First off, please let me apologize for the extremely late reply to this. You had commented on my post regarding Unplanned, and directed me to this text post. I meant to post this reply sooner, but then RL got a little crazy, and I am just getting to it now.
>Abby Johnson never witnessing an abortion procedure:
This is true, and not just implied in the movie. Throughout her years as first a volunteer escort, then a counselor, and then a clinic director, she gained knowledge of abortion procedures, and had even been in the POC (Products of Conception) Room, viewing the pieces of fetuses that had been aborted. However, up until that ultrasound-guided 13 week abortion, she had not, in person, witnessed/assisted with an abortion.
>Her not doing research on abortion care and procedures:
Again, she did have knowledge of many, if all, abortion procedures that were carried out both at her own clinic, and other clinics across the country. This is highlighted in a scene when she speaks with her husband, Doug, in their kitchen, and describes a late-term abortion.
Dr. Anthony Levatino is indeed the man playing the doctor in the scene, although he was not the doctor who performed this procedure in real life. He has spoken out honestly and clearly regarding what happens in different abortion procedures, and one such testimony can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZXQBhTszpU (Warning: This video shows him explaining an abortion procedure in detail).
>The depicted behavior of the clinic employees:
The depiction of this scene is based upon Abby Johnson’s experience in this particular instance. She, and all others associated with the movie’s creation, have routinely stated that nothing is overexaggerated or dramaticized in the film. Their goal was to make a movie that truthfully illustrated a woman’s experience with her changing stance on abortion, and her experience working for Planned Parenthood. While I cannot, with my current knowledge, state whether the behaviors shown in this scene are more or less common than others, I can say that, clinic employees, at this specific clinic, were shown to be calm and gentle with the women in most other scenes. In fact, I found that their humanity, and their belief that they were helping women in need, were often highlighted.
>The science of fetal pain:
Science is showing, more and more, that this is NOT not possible, and not a complete myth. The following link goes to a fact sheet regarding scientific literature centered around the science of fetal pain. (I apologize, as the citations will not link you directly to the source, some googling is necessary, and not all of the material is available online, but nonetheless, there is quite a lot of information here): https://lozierinstitute.org/fact-sheet-science-of-fetal-pain/#_edn2
>Rude and verbally aggressive pro-life protestors:
This happens. It should never happen, and is truly detrimental to both the health of the women hearing those things, as well as to the goals of the pro-life movement, which are to love and support both the baby and the mother. I do not know of any who claim that such behavior does not happen, and if they do, they are wrong. In fact, later in the movie, Abby Johnson brings up this behavior to Marilisa Carney, to whom she is speaking through the fence. She shows anger that those people are there, and remarks on how ridiculous it is that they think women will, for instance, run to someone dressed as the grim reaper for help. Marilisa states that she understands and agrees, and that she and others have asked, and continued to ask, such people to stop that behavior.
>Abortions only provided on Saturday at this particular clinic:
How is this obviously untrue? Do you have sources to suggest otherwise? There are some PP clinics that do not perform abortions, so why would it be strange for a specific clinic to only provide abortions on a particular day? Or a particular set of days, when on other days they are providing different healthcare services?
The Lie that Abortion is Extremely Dangerous
>The abortion procedure itself and the clinic conditions:
There have been several accounts from women who have had an abortion, as well as from former abortion clinic workers or doctors, that portray these or similar conditions, or other aspects of abortion that are dangerous. Some of these include people such as Dr. Levatino, or Dr. Kathi Aultman, who you can read about here: https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/01/22/abortion-doctor-complications-pro-life-roe-wade-column/4530180002/
>The perforated uterus emergency:
Even if we assume that, on a whole, abortion is not “extremely dangerous and life-threatening” (to the mother), is it completely out of line to believe that, at one time, such an accident may have occurred during an abortion procedure? Do accidents and accidental deaths due to other surgical procedures not happen?
>Death rates due to child birth vs. due to abortion:
Can I ask which study this is from/a link to it? I would like to know a lot more about the numbers from that screen shot. This is an incredibly difficult issue, as aborting the fetus, killing the child, is still killing it. From what I have studied in the past, the instances in which an abortion will save the mother’s life are extremely rare.
>The discussion on abortion being the same as slavery, civil rights, and the Holocaust:
They bring up the notion that “Abortion is the same as slavery, civil rights, and the holocaust”, only after Abby Johnson, still on the pro-choice side of the argument, brings up such a notion first, in regards to the pro-choice side, and women as a whole, being oppressed by those on the side of the pro-life movement. The reason Shawn Carney turns it around back on her, is that he uses it to illustrate something very crucial to all of those occurrences: The dehumanization of a set of peoples. Throughout slavery’s existence (which continues to this day), slaves have been marked as less than the other humans around them, whether that be due to their race, caste, religion, etc. During the civil rights movements, such as the fight for suffrage for women and non-white people, voters who were not white men were viewed as less than human, and therefore had no place voting. During the holocaust, Jews, the elderly, the disabled, and many more were considered less than human, and treated as such. Today, with abortion, fetuses are seen as less than human, because it hurts less to think that so many babies have been murdered and continue to be murdered, than to think that they were simply a temporary, scary, non-human problem, that had an easy solution, and no consequences.
>His death’s inclusion in the film:
I must admit I am confused as to why, exactly, this caused you so much anger. The way in which his death was mentioned was not, in any way, shown to be a glorification of his horrible murder, nor did it provide any justification for such an act. In fact, the movie shows Abby and her husband, Doug, leaving a restaurant as soon as they see the news, and driving quickly to her parents’ house to get her daughter. They are shown to be shocked, upset, and horrified at the violence, and Doug says that he wants to get her somewhere safe as soon as possible, worried that she may be a potential next target of such atrocity. The movie, once again, pulls no punches in its depiction of truth: No one should be murdered, or verbally attacked, for working at Planned Parenthood or in the abortion industry.
That belief is a part of being pro-life as well.
I hope I managed to touch on everything, but please let me know of any questions/clarifications desired.
I still stand by Unplanned as being a truthful depiction of Abby Johnson’s experience at Planned Parenthood, the nature of what abortion is, and how abortions are performed.
To anyone who may come across this who has had an abortion: You are still loved, and resources exist to help you.
https://supportafterabortion.com/?gclid=CjwKCAjw_Y_8BRBiEiwA5MCBJgFuTe5DKnnJEP96U6il_R_nRVpFs8XoGO4Ww_Iw80dzp_Sm-_l_vRoCtFYQAvD_BwE
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