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"Sephiroth, I trusted you!"
Incredibly important line. Because while Genesis and Angeal (unintentionally) wronged Sephiroth, Sephiroth wronged ZACK. Sephiroth was supposed to be the adult in the room, the one who would look after Zack, protect him, guide him. Not only did Sephiroth (also unintentionally) push Zack into enduring a great deal of trauma in Crisis Core, but he also fails him in a critical period of uncertainty. It isn't just that Sephiroth murdered innocent people, he failed as a surrogate mentor to Zack.
But it still traces back to Shinra's meddling. Sephiroth never should have been sent to Nibelheim. Zack never should have had to shoulder such a heavy burden, or the subsequent torture that followed in Hojo's lab. It's all Shinra's fault from end to end.
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Small detail I've always liked about First Soldier's opening cutscene. When Glenn first collides with Sephiroth out in the rain, Sephiroth is not fighting back so much as he's just trying to push Glenn away. And then when Glenn starts talking, you can see Sephiroth slowly bow his head and avert his eyes in sadness. He does not engage Glenn until Glenn touches a nerve by mentioning Genesis.
It's very tiny. But it's got a gloomy feeling with hindsight. Sephiroth never wanted to be Glenn's enemy. Glenn never found out why Sephiroth killed Rosen. Or just how much Sephiroth cared. This little bit of body language is especially sad after we heard Sephiroth go on and on about how much he misses Glenn's gang in Ep 2.
He wanted to be with Glenn and his team. He wanted to go with them. And Glenn doesn't even know.
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I really need the tumblr fandom to try and broaden their views on how Angeal and Genesis are perceived in general.
Like, I’m not even joking when I say that the majority of the FF7 fandom still does not care about these characters in the slightest and it’s been that way since 2007.
Tons of people literally either hate them or just acknowledge them as those rando friends of Sephiroth in Crisis Core. The most popular Sephiroth accounts on Twitter tend to hate on them unless shipping is a factor. The fanboy forums trash them regularly. The big FF7 YouTubers rag on Genesis for being annoying without even bothering to look into his deeper character. Angeal is brushed off as a generic samurai or just the “honor guy.” You talk to people on bustling FF7 Discord servers about them you may still just hear about how they didn’t even like that Sephiroth had friends to begin with, because…yeah they don’t like our favorite arsonist too humanized (believe me, that’s its own issue and part of the reason Sephiroth’s overarching fandom ain’t much better).
But the Crisis Core and First Soldier fandom is specifically an unusual place to begin with. People like Zack, yeah, but you start talking about Genesis and Angeal and you’re bound to start a fire somewhere. These characters are just notably controversial in fandom the same way Aerith and Tifa cause chaos just by daring to exist near the male hero as potential love interests.
This fandom thrives on disliking characters for petty reasons.
So when you see the Tumblr fandom actually give a damn and notice little details about say, Angeal that someone who actually cared about CC would want to remember, you better believe that that’s already unusual and important, actually. It’s significant. It shows that an under-appreciated character actually has fans for the reasons the writers intended.
Most people don’t give a fuck that Angeal was a genuine person with hobbies or that Genesis had a complicated relationship with his parents. Most people don’t even give them enough credit to see them as complex characters, and the fact that there are people on this hellsite saying that they think Angeal is cute because he was an enthusiastic kid or that Genesis actually deserves a little bit of sympathy because he was supposed to be written with a tad more depth than he was displayed with in CC, you better believe that this is an oddball thing to come across and that oh trust me, it’s not indicative of some big phenomenon where people are whitewashing all of his actions. Same goes for Angeal. It’s borderline a non-issue.
What’s more accurate is that these fans actually did enough research to understand these characters from the lore that was woven into the game and supplemental materials. Trust me they usually know Genesis and Angeal were flawed, but they also acknowledge them as the victims of propaganda and experimentation that they were, just like Zack. Yes, their flaws DO make them appealing for much of their little fanbase, but so does the fact that they were victims too??
Just because Angeal mentored Zack doesn’t mean he was any more aware of how truly fucked up Shinra was until later on. He joined an organization notoriously skilled at lying to the world with the full intention of being a hero and helper as a teen and didn’t get the full picture until his early 20s. Then he basically fucking killed himself out of guilt and self-loathing.
It’s the same story as Zack’s but with a different ending.
Genesis did unhinged shit when he started degrading but he was also trying to burn Shinra to the ground.
And both of them loved Sephiroth, yes. In their own ways. Genesis biggest dream was to share a piece of his homeland with Sephiroth. Angeal saved Sephiroth’s life from Jenova when they were kids.
Nobody is denying A&G fucked up in their choices but we also know how to say “man idk sometimes it depends and we understand how things ended up that way.” It’s not about excusing any of the characters, it’s about understanding why Shinra is ultimately propped up as the ultimate problem with everything. It’s about seeing the potential in characters who were trying to be good people and didn’t make it because they fell for the worst lies possible and were inherently fucked over from birth.
The game also tries to explain this to you repeatedly. Why do you think Barret’s outburst in Rebirth “Only dumbasses believe that shit!” is immediately countered by Aerith’s “Wait, does that make me a dumbass?” Why do you think Cloud and Zack’s arcs of embracing the legacy of SOLDIER honor and heroism separate from Shinra’s propaganda is significant? This game tells you repeatedly that good people can fall for lies and champion the wrong things, but they can also grow and change and break away from it.
Angeal and Genesis both “broke away” from Shinra in their own ways, but they were also written to be more tragic in their conclusions than some of the other characters, so yeah, we sympathize with and lament for them. We point out the good in who they once were and yeah, people write cute coffee shop AUs for them in weird, niche corners of the fandom like this one and they giddily acknowledge the canon reality of these two being good friends to Sephiroth at one point.
All of that may have fallen apart eventually, but that’s part of the tragedy and you are supposed to see that a good thing was lost.
Thank you - a big like from me for this post, I wish I could give more! 😭 As a lover and defender of the whole Compilation of FF7 and especially Crisis Core I'm just so tired of the aversion at best, the hate at worst for new characters introduced outside of OG in general. I have to add a bit of my own ramblings, sorry!
So, I'm not that involved in the different FF7 communities, but have friends in the fandom with extensive knowledge about the compilation, and I have the feeling they're mostly chill with Angeal's existence, being Zack's mentor and such. Only sometimes I venture through tumblr posts or feel adventurous enough to consume fan content, but often I tend to leave again quickly.
Genesis though is a different topic and I came across those who dislike/hate Gen because he's annoying with his Loveless quotes, and then those who outright hate him for how he, supposedly, meddled with and outright destroyed Sephiroth's Nibelheim villain arc by being there in the reactor in Crisis Core when he wasn't in OG - and I can't remember other arguments why they don't like Genesis' existence, it's always one of those two.
I mean, I somehow get it from the viewpoint of those hardcore OG fans, and I guess it's fine to only accept OG as canon, but I'm always sad when I hear others discuss it or read something about the Compilation, where I'm always wondering: Is it just me who perceives characters or events in the Compilation differently or did others play completely different FF7 games than I did? 🙈
For Angeal and Genesis there's so much character building in Crisis Core alone (not talking about Young Angeal and Young Sephiroth in Ever Crisis here, or otherwise this will get even longer) - but the thing is, the player needs to pay attention and not not just blindly rush through the story only - because then yes, Angeal is no more than a guy talking about honor who Zack inherits the Buster Sword from, and Genesis a poetry-reciting egomaniac, I'll admit to that. And on the surface there are many things with which Square Enix weren't really doing their characters a big favour in their depiction, but okay.
If one cares to look a bit closer, pays a bit attention, carefully explores the areas in the game and finds the information hid there, there's so much more - let me think of a few things that are still clear in my brain, because my last Crisis Core (Reunion) playthrough was a while ago. But with how often I played the PSP original, I'm sure I can remember some bits and pieces about Angeal's and Genesis' backstories, a bit about Sephiroth - which people tend to forget (or like to forget on purpose).
Angeal is not someone who's only there to chew off Sephiroth's/Genesis'/Zack's/<insert random SOLDIER trainee here>'s ear to remind them about honor and dreams. He's a guy who joined Shinra in his teenage years, oblivious to the corruption in the company. He simply wants to support his family - and Shinra's as good an idea as anything else: they're well-known employers and joining the SOLDIER programme, and to him at that point, becoming a soldier was a good idea. Let's not forget here that Angeal mentions to Zack in Chapter 1 that his family was poor - we were also reminded of that in the flashback/hallucination in Ever Crisis (FS Ep. 2). His family was poor, but loving. When we visit Angeal's house in CC and take a look around Zack mentions all kinds of family photos, too, and that shaped Angeal. For example, the man Angeal knows to be his father, the main who raised him, even borrowed money for Angeal's sword as a gift for him when he started his first job. Due to his upbringing and the values he holds dear, which he also taught the SOLDIER trainees, the impact of Genesis' disappearance first, then the start of his own degradation and finding out that he's also a Shinra experiment... It's so big he started to question everything, his own life choices up until then, Shinra,... No wonder he fled. And to basically witness all this only through Zack's POV in CC makes it hit so much harder in my opinion, as you cannot openly see how much he's most likely suffering, same as Genesis (and later also Sephiroth). As you mentioned, he was a man with a life, friends, hobbies, which he all had to throw away basically overnight. And regarding hobbies - yes, they were even mentioned in CC! Granted mostly due to the not too reliable fanclub mails Zack receives, but how does the saying go? There's a grain of truth in every joke - and I for myself can totally see Angeal cooking for his friends on free evenings or weekends, or that he likes to care for plants as a hobby.
Ah, and poor old Genesis... Does everyone remember that, apart from his Loveless-fanboying, he had quite the amazing life in Banora? He and Angeal are often being reduced to just being those country bumpkin best friends from Banora who turned into Seph's sidekicks in CC, but actually Gen was quite the hard worker and totally into the Banora White production stuff. His father was the mayor. When going back to the Banora ruins in Ch. 10 of CC, you can find some of Genesis' old stuff in a corner, prizes he got and also a newspaper clipping where it says he was the one who created dumbapple juice, and that he would love the hero Sephiroth to try his products once - dreams way before they even met. And no matter what, his friendship to both Angeal and Sephiroth is incredible. From the HD scene in Crisis Core (the one where they demolish the battle simulator) you can tell so much - how comfortable they are around each other, how happy the friendship makes Sephiroth! And then Genesis' degradation begins and his body literally starts to crack and fall apart. But not only physically - of course this also takes a toll on him mentally when he finds out about past human experiments causing it and that he probably won't survive. It's Shinra's fault and Sephiroth has it better because his experiments were different, "better"... With all these bits and pieces, who can blame him for running, for feeling betrayed? And yet again, the info is there in the game, if the player is careful enough to read it (e.g. when Zack and Sephiroth are in Hollander's lab and Zack examines the notes).
And in the end we have Sephiroth being all alone again after his two friends left. And in my opinion, all of his backstories make him snapping and causing the Nibelheim Incident even worse. He's no social butterfly to begin with. He was used as a test subject and a pretty war campaign face by Shinra, they always treated him as an investment to be used however they like on a whim, not as a human being. He found his first friends in the P0 SOLDIERs, pretty much already "lost" Glenn, Matt and Lucia shortly after. Then on his next big mission he got under Jenova's influence by obtaining Masamune (and he was like what, 15 at that point?), befriended Angeal and probably after that mission als Genesis, only to lose them a few years later because of Shinra's ridiculous experiments. At that point, he has no one to trust and goes into research mode himself, reads book after book for a week in the Shinra Mansion in Nibelheim, and slowly goes insane over what he finds there - and he himself is not at fault, as he's very much under Jenova's influence at that point, and in addition, has no social security net or a person he really can confide in. Or at least someone who tells him that his conclusion that he is some kind of higher being is just what it is: insane. Zack is, unfortunately, not a close enough friend to be able to reason with him. And also let's remember his words before they leave to investigate the reactor in CC: Chapter 7: "Depending on what happens, I may abandon Shinra." The way he tells it alone (at least in the Japanese voice version) already tells how deeply he is hurt that he's been left alone again with all the chaos that happens at Shinra, and pre-Nibelheim-incident-Sephiroth keeps breaking my heart over and over again.
Bonus: Everybody needs to keep in mind how incredibly young those characters still are - Angeal and Genesis are only about 25(!) in Crisis Core, Sephiroth, iirc, even is two or three years younger. With how isolated he probably grew up, there's no way he has the actual mental maturity to be able to deal with what is happening to him and the people dear to him in an appropriate way. Angeal and Genesis had a life before Shinra, loving families, and Sephiroth had... Hojo, laboratories, physical examinations, SOLDIER training - and that's basically the only thing he's good at, and for everything else, he's trying so hard. He's struggling for a bit of normalcy other people his age have. Until Nibelheim happens. 😢
On a closing note - let's be honest, a similar thing is also happening to (Crisis Core) Zack and the (Compilation) Turks - I often see how they are perceived or used as comic relief only. Due to Zack's bubbly personality and his big dream of becoming a hero, everybody forgets that to make it to SOLDIER 1st Class, you probably need both a perfect physical constitution and the brains for it, and he managed to make it to 1st at freaking 16 years old.
And I think, mostly thanks to the existence of Advent Children (which I love to pieces, but just can't take serious to some extent), especially Reno and Rude were degraded to two clowns - while they should be scary assholes doing the dirty work for Shinra behind the scenes. I'm thankful that newer installments such as Remake and Rebirth did a much much better job on that, but I can't count the times I got frustrated with how those who were designed as ruthless killers in the lore are reduced to pretty faces by a part of the fandom.
Whoops. Sorry not sorry for getting overboard. Rambling over.
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I'm re-reading the Dresden Files in the lead up to Twelve Months slated release in January and some of the Early Instalment Weirdness is jarring.
Harry spends all of Storm Front convinced that the spell that killed Tommy Tom could only have been cast by a mortal practitioner. Which, yes, wizards do have the lion's share of phenomenal magic power, but also several later books have centered around various vampire courts and the major spells they can pull off. Try telling Thorned Namshiel or Lasciel that they can't do that, see how well it goes for you. Heck, The Archive would be easily capable of it (not that she would), and calling her a mortal practitioner would be a stretch.
I'm at the end of Fool Moon and Harry hasn't mentioned the Accords at all yet.
And something I forgot: Murphy is a terrible cop. She's not beating the ACAB allegations, she's too busy beating her handcuffed suspect! Who is Harry, incidentally, who did literally nothing to provoke it in this book. He's not hiding information from her, she's just wildly leaping to conclusions and going straight to police brutality as a response. Twice so far she's tried to arrest Harry in the middle of active combat situations in which he was the only thing keeping her alive. Get a fucking grip, Karen. Thank fuck both she and Harry grow and change dramatically over the series.
It's kind of neat weirdness, though, in the sense that clearly some of this stuff Jim just hadn't worked out yet, but it's explained in-universe because Harry is a dumb baby wizard who doesn't know jack about squat yet. He's such a big clumsy puppy--he wears his magic out by popping a few light bulbs and blowing up a jukebox. He can't cast evocations near anything he doesn't want Extremely On Fire, including himself, because he's got almost no control so it comes out like an uncapped hydrant. He did most of his apprenticeship under a sketchy dark wizard, then essentially Wizard Summer School with McCoy for a little while to catch up, but it wasn't in Justin's best interests for Harry to have a well-rounded education and getting information out of Ebenezer is like getting blood from a stone. Harry's magic education has gaps that you could drive a semi-trailer through, let alone anything passing for wizard cultural knowledge. Most of the useful things he's learned have come from Bob, which is basically like teaching yourself off of YouTube but with a personalised peanut gallery. Magic politics? Forget it, he's never heard of her.
It's a fun way of building out the world as Harry learns that actually it's more complicated than that over and over again every book.