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Mace Windu according to Obi-Wan Kenobi (Rogue Planet, Greg Bear).
re-watching the original trilogy is great because you really get a sense for how weird luke skywalker is, just how quickly he becomes that weird AND how quickly he commits to it. Like he's honestly pretty chill in a new hope, but the absolute INSTANT he figures out he can move shit with his mind he goes full send on the cryptic off-putting bullshit. Walking around in full black robes, speaking in riddles, aura farming and backflipping whenever physically possible. He's clearly annoyed when he first meets yoda in empire, but he dismisses that pretty quickly in favour of ALSO becoming an over-dramatic space wizard. The combination of his two teachers being yoda and obi-wan kenobi and him being the son of anakin and padme creates the single most intense and fundamentally kind force sensitive perfectly embodying the heart of the jedi order whilst also serving egregious amounts of cunt and being bizarre to be around. He would have THRIVED as a jedi master during the high republic. he would have been every padawan's favourite and every other master's worst nightmare
One thing I've always found so interesting about Vader's ultimate redemption is that it's all about his capacity to love his family. Nothing about peace or justice or realization about the state of the galaxy or the force, just that he turns his back on the authority and institution he's served for two decades to prioritize and save a person who he feels attached to, who means more to him than all of it.
Sound familiar?
From that perspective, it's no wonder that Obi-Wan and Yoda couldn't sense the good in him. There wasn't any, by any Jedi definition. Only in the definition of "any capacity to love=good". Padme knew this much, because she knew even fallen Anakin loved her and would have done anything for her. Luke knew, because he could (truthfully) sense that Anakin Skywalker would do anything for him as long as he knew that Luke was his son.
It's just always been so interesting to me that his redemption was through the same vice as his fall. (Insert "jojo have you learned nothing". meme). He wasn't redeemed in a grand moral sense, just back to the same Anakin Skywalker that was willing to do anything to save the life of those he felt belonged to him, no matter the cost. 20 years as a sith didn't shift his values an inch.
It is also just objectively funny.
Luke and Sidious played the exact same card (someone you love is in danger) and he folded INSTANTLY both times. The thing that made him bad at being a Jedi was the EXACT same thing that made him bad at being a Sith. He just wasn't built to commit to the force.
One thing I've always found so interesting about Vader's ultimate redemption is that it's all about his capacity to love his family. Nothing about peace or justice or realization about the state of the galaxy or the force, just that he turns his back on the authority and institution he's served for two decades to prioritize and save a person who he feels attached to, who means more to him than all of it.
Sound familiar?
From that perspective, it's no wonder that Obi-Wan and Yoda couldn't sense the good in him. There wasn't any, by any Jedi definition. Only in the definition of "any capacity to love=good". Padme knew this much, because she knew even fallen Anakin loved her and would have done anything for her. Luke knew, because he could (truthfully) sense that Anakin Skywalker would do anything for him as long as he knew that Luke was his son.
It's just always been so interesting to me that his redemption was through the same vice as his fall. (Insert "jojo have you learned nothing". meme). He wasn't redeemed in a grand moral sense, just back to the same Anakin Skywalker that was willing to do anything to save the life of those he felt belonged to him, no matter the cost. 20 years as a sith didn't shift his values an inch.
anakin was just using palp-GPT to confirm his delusions. you’re absolutely right, my boy! the council is not just strict—they’re controlling.
"why can't they just be friends?" not in the homophobic sense, but in the "in your need to center romance in everything you are missing the whole point of the media in question" sense
the thing about mace windu and count dooku is that it's simply so instantly believable that they were friends once. from what little we get of them, their characterization creates a dynamic that would so clearly mesh well. they are serious men with strict principles. they find a certain amount of pride and joy in their martial skills. they have ambition. they each have a dry sense of humor. yoda loves them. when they call each other "old friend" nothing has ever been more plausible to me.
I feel like so many people want to focus on any other identity that the Jedi might have OTHER than their Jedi identity, to the point of ADDING identities they have never had in canon and exploring those rather than exploring their Jedi identity, and it's really sad to watch happen as someone who loves Jedi BECAUSE they're Jedi first and foremost.
come on😀mention my favourite character😀i am well adjusted😀and will act very normal😀i assure you😀
My favorite part of this scene is the insinuation that Mace keeps count of how many droids he destroys, not just in total but by type.
"but aromantic people can still be in romantic relationships! i headcanon this character as demiromantic" okay then
where's the "do i really love them romantically? or did i just convince myself i do?
where's the "am i still really aromantic? what if it was just a phase? what if i'm normal, actually?"
where's the "what even is romantic love. what even is the difference being romantic love and platonic love. nothing is inherently romantic, it all depends on intent. but that can't be the only difference, can it? then people could just chose to be in love. but that's not how it works, is it?? "
where's the not being aro enough for aro spaces but being too aro for allo spaces
where's the "i keep falling for my friends and it keeps costing me friendships. help!"
where's the "what even is dating. how does that even work"
where's the not getting crushes. it's either completely fully in love or nothing
where's the being perfectly happy without a romantic partner, but also happy if you happen to have one
where's the needing unusually long to get over a relationship and detangle yourself
where's the "love at first sight is fake, it doesn't work like that"
where's the "i don't know you well enough yet to be romantically interested in you. i don't even know you well enough to know if i could be romantically interested in you"
where's the usual aro stuff. having difficulty with romantic relationships or situations without knowing why. not being able to relate when others talk about their crushes and relationships. advice always being either "talk about it" or "break up" if asked. feeling like there's something wrong with you bc you don't work like everyone else
demiromantic people are still aromantic. you can't use that as a cop out to write aro characters as if they're allo
- sincerely, a demiromantic person who'd like more accurate representation
the thing that alw bothered me ab the mustafar duel is it did not have to end like that. like... i understand we needed anakin alive, but burned n severely wounded, but can you seriously look me in the eye n tell me you think obi-wan would leave him to burn? obi-wan is definitely a mercy-kill kind of guy
and i know, there's all those complicated emotions because it's anakin and obi-wan but... those emotions are *not* complicated enough for obi-wan to decide that leaving him to burn slowly to death was the best choice
there's a lot of controversy about the "a jedi does not pull their weapon unless prepared to kill" line and, honestly, it feels like a really terrible way of making the point that obi-wan's "i will do what i must" line did. but, to be clearer, i'd like to frame it in the context of obi-wan and anakin's discussion about lightsaber-flails in the comics (2020):
We want our opponents to know that we use a weapon that requires intention. Training, precision, and choice. The lightsaber symbolises the care with which we approach our gifts through the Force and the care with which we wild them. It reminds others that while we could do more... we very purposefully do not. We choose a weapon with limitations – with difficulties. You cannot use a lightsaber to destroy a city or a planet. Every death or injury it inflicts must be precisely chosen. The lightsaber tells the galaxy that the Jedi are not destroyers. We are protectors.
that feels like a much better way of putting it.
a jedi always draws their lightsaber with intention. with full knowledge of what both the wielder and the weapon are capable of.
obi-wan did not go into the duel on mustafar intending to let anakin live. he knew, from the moment he drew his lightsaber – honestly, probably from the moment he saw the footage from the temple – that only one of them was going to leave that planet alive.
i'm not saying it would have been easy for him. i think drawing his lightsaber at all was probably one of the most difficult decisions he ever made.
but i still don't think he's capable of looking at a being, no matter how evil, and leaving it to suffer.
especially because it is anakin.
anakin screams that he hates obi-wan and he sounds like a petulant child. i can imagine him screaming that and then stomping off, unsuccessfully attempting to slam an electrical sliding door.
you cannot tell me obi-wan didn't hear that.
to me, i see him taking one of two routes, and neither of them are canon:
the first – and more likely imo, in the context of obi-wan's emotional state (the destruction of the order, the loss of the clones, the footage he has just seen of anakin murdering children, the fact he just saw anakin choke his own wife out) – is a mercy kill. obi-wan has won the fight. anakin is weaponless, limbless, and alone. as far as obi-wan knows, the two options for anakin now are that he burns to death – a slow, agonising death – or that obi-wan puts him out of his misery – a swift, relatively painless end.
obi-wan still loves anakin, despite everything, and that is part of what makes the idea of obi-wan killing him so difficult. but it is also exactly what makes it impossible for him to walk away while he burns. he loves him enough to kill him – to spare him pain.
the second, less likely, option is that he tries to save him.
i don't think obi-wan is at a point in rots where he would do this. by the end of the duel on mustafar, he has lost literally everything, including the hope and faith it would take to believe anakin could be saved – either from wounds that severe or from Falling.
and yet, it is still, somehow, more believable to me than him turning around and walking away.
idk i just... it irks me. they are duelling in increasingly precarious conditions on a literal lava planet. there are *so many* other ways that anakin could've obtained the injuries required for Darth Vader in the original trilogy and obi-wan still would've blamed himself regardless so we'd still get the angst potential.
just let him fall off something and survive in a scientifically implausible way like everyone else ;-;
As a kid I didn’t think about it that much but yeah, it doesn’t make sense he lets him suffer like that. He would have mercy killed Anakin and ended it right there
right ;-; like... ending the duel that way literally just gives obi-wan every opportunity to ensure the original trilogy never happens and HE WOULD HAVE DONE IT
not bc he thought anakin would survive, not bc of any kind of prescience (altho... where did the baby obi haunted by visions from legends go?), literally just because he has so much love and care and respect for living beings – especially the boy that he raised – that he could not walk away from that kind of suffering
Idk i always interpreted it as the "case and point" of the Jedi attachment precept and what happens when a jedi cant follow it.
Obi-Wan tells Yoda that he can't stand fight Anakin because he loves him too much. Turns out he could fight him, but he couldn't bring himself to kill him because he was like a brother to him, never mind that it caused more suffering both for Anakin and the Galaxy at large.
Was there a reason the Jedi... believed the Rule of Two?
If your enemies told you "Don't worry guys there's totally only two of us... you don't need to look for any more... ignore what's happening in the shadowy corner over there..." it feels like you should be a little suspicious.
Like, the Rule of Two has reasoning as to why it's there (basically just not sharing power) but there's also a lot of reasoning for people to lie to their enemies about their numbers. Enemies are not people you are generally encouraged to just take at their word.
Just... why would you completely trust that?
Iirc it was specifically a Darth Bane/line of Bane thing, where after the end of the Jedi-Sith war he was like "damn, we lost bc we also kept killing each other during the war because we were all too power hungry instead of focusing on the common enemy." So he enforced the rule of two as a way to keep the Sith from going extinct while preventing the backstabbing issue: if you want all the power you can't kill the person who knows the secrets because they're literally the only one in the galaxy who can give it to you.
So it was a strategic thing that was in reaction to a phenomenon that the Jedi saw unfold in real time, so it was not a "trust me bro", and more of something that the jedi would have known was likely given A) the lack of sith factions in the galaxy and B) the sith records the acquired after winning the war.
I don't think Jocasta Nu gets enough credit for this moment where she purges the entire Jedi Archive data to keep the Empire from being able to access that trove of knowledge for their purposes:
It's just the valor of surviving Order 66, somehow, impossibly getting away, and yet still coming back into her gutted home-turned-tomb to do this excruciating, ultimate act of sacrifice. Destroying this last physical manifestation of her people's culture, identity, and her own life's work. It's such a Jedi moment: letting something deeply important go, not out of apathy or coldness, but to protect others.
Jocasta as a character is so defined by her exchange in AotC, telling Obi-Wan that if something isn't in the Jedi Archives, it doesn't exist. So many fans have interpreted that as to stand for the arrogance of the Jedi, not the pride in her life's work collecting and maintaining a resource as incredible and massive as the Jedi Archives. I think this act is even more powerful answer to those charges; far from Jocasta Nu being a posterchild for the Jedi doggedly clinging to an institution for the sake of itself, she's willing to throw all of that away in an instant if it means one less weapon for the Empire.
i am traveling to an academic conference. i just saw a post on my dash that indicates one of my mutuals is attending the same conference.
it would be wrong to use this knowledge to try & blindside someone with an “i like your shoelaces”, right?
(also i have only a vague idea of what said mutual looks like, so there’d be a not-insignificant chance of getting the wrong person.)
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Too many ‘Bail Organa wants to befriend clones’ and not enough of the other way around. Bail is nice to Commander Fox 1 (one) time and suddenly he has troopers all over his office. He always has a personal armed escort home whether he needs one or not. They’re offering him knives and shiny rocks and snacks and Bail just can’t bring himself to say no. He goes home to Alderaan for a week and gets a three dozen ‘priority messages’ that are poorly disguised “we miss you” notes. There’s snipers watching over his apartment 24/7. Bail does the bare minimum ONCE and he has the clones undying loyalty and he does his best to be worthy of that.
"The Jedi didn't help Anakin with his Force visions!"
Anakin only had two-TWO!-Force Visions in 3 movies and 7 seasons, the first vision he did not go to the Jedi for help with, the second one he did and he was given advice for exactly what he needed to do, he just didn't like the advice and didn't listen and went to someone who told him what he wanted to hear