Hard to swallow pills for the ace community

This blog is for ace discourse, particularly in minor defense for the exclusionism of aces. Also a blog hoping to inform aces of hurtful attitudes and their homophobic stances against LGBT who want to express themselves and their sexuality. It's a hate blog only if you don't take time to educate yourself and read. No, saying you don't belong is not oppression. FAQ

[queerestace]

Exclusionists claim inclusionists don’t understand oppression

Yet they say the LGBT community is for fighting homophobia and transphobia, when those are literally just two symptoms of an oppressive pericisheteronormative system

We need to take the system down and not just fight its individual manifestations

[discourseful]

yes, the community is about homophobia/transphobia/their subsets. the whole point the community exists is because those forms of oppression were literally killing us and it was deadly to NOT build a community.

yes, inevitably, the system needs to be dismantled, but that’s not something that can be done with a snap of your fingers. going “fuck the patriarchy!” isn’t going to kill the patriarchy. you have to work to take away the systems in place that hold oppressed people down, otherwise there will be no progress. ignoring the “smaller issues” or whatever in favor of trying to jump to break the overarching system will go nowhere.

it’s not wrong to have certain communities focused on certain issues. many LGBT people still care about and fight for other issues - the point is that the community cams together to focus on something specific, not that those are the only two things that matter. like… critical thinking. try it.

[were-wolfcourse]

This is some borderline “all lives matter’” logic. Like going by that logic we shouldnt have specific organizations/communities for anything because they are “part of something bigger”. Sorry breast cancer organizations you are no longer #Valid, you need to be about ALL cancers now =/.

[queerestace]

Dismantling an oppressive system is now the same as a racist backlash campaign.

Also, breast cancer organizations give info about cancer in general, you dingus.

I know we fight the specific iteration of an oppressive system. That’s what our subcommunities are for. It’s why the lesbian, bi, pan, gay, trans, ace, etc communities exist. The LGBT+ community in and of itself should put a lot of its focus on the oppressive system in general.

[were-wolfcourse]

Considering that your logic is prime liberal homophobia and transphobia, the hat fits!

Giving basic general info about cancer =/= being about cancer in general.

Also aphobia doesnt exist outside fantasy oppression and inclusionists fail to give proof it does beyond wildly misinterpreting random facts about misogyny and rape culture.

Not only that but your understanding of what the lgbt community or is for even today is absolutely bonkers please go outside for a while because all this kwyrlib nebulous nonsense about making the lgbt community not about lgbt is nothing more that rebranded homophobia and transphobia.

[thotsune]

r we sharing shitty school gsa stories bc at the one at my college i was told that i couldnt id as a lesbian bc im nonbinary and that the only ppl that can date me r pan ppl and i was like what the actual fuck, and also this one ace kid said that he doesnt want ANYONE talking about sga bc it makes him uncomfy :/

YIKES YIKES YIKES YIKES (esp about the pan thing bitch what the fuck)

[shroom-n-doom]

I feel an awful lot of young lgbt people are inclusionists bc they’re very new to the community and they all of a sudden want everyone to be valid and included, I used to be hardcore inclusionist myself. What needs to happen is for young people to actually engage in the real life community, not just the one on tumblr, and to learn the history and how the community has developed and evolved and so they themselves can learn why the A (if it is present) stands for ally and why the ace movement was a rotten from the beggining (David jay-do I need to explain).

It’s hard to change your beliefs, but it is possible, and look no don’t want to sound like a grumpy old republican but a lot of the time you Do have to put facts over feelings. Our history isn’t a fun inclusive community, it’s about us vs them, it’s about fighting against homophobia and transphobia. It started well before stonewall and won’t finish till we truly are on par with the cishets, and while the asexual struggle is real, it is not the same.

We can’t fight for our right to love and have sex without shame when your preaching the opposite while standing next to us.

[fuckasexies]

but seriously, using the term “allo” to group The Gays with cishets is really harmful when you think about the fact that cishets have always targeted us for the people we have sex with. if you’re ace and you really think you are missing out on certain privileges for the fact that you are ace, i strongly recommend that you take sometime off this garbage site or just the internet in general.

[tea-and-biscourse]

Queer Hets

So what sort of people are inclusionists actually inviting into our community? I mean, they can’t be that bad, right? Mean exclusionists are just being hyper literal and over dramatic, right??? Well, actually…

Let’s have a look

Oh wow. A literal cishet who doesn’t think trans people are real. Out of the way, homos and bisexuals! Make way for the cishets!

We’re off to a great start. Who’s next?

A straight, married dad. The antithesis of “queer”. This is the definition of heteronormativity. But at least he’s not a piece of shit like the last one, ….right?

He hates lesbians and think they oppress him. Imagine that.

Oh look. And he stans heteros and thinks gay people are tearing apart the lgbt community.

“MY” “”ME” “*I* am a straight man, therefore *I* am entitled to your spaces” “**I** am feel uncomfortable when we are not about me?”

Look at how bold inclusionists have made this man. Not only does he think he belongs at Pride, he thinks it belongs to him.

He continues to vilify gay people, especially lesbians because lesbophobia is inclusionist culture.

And he’s projecting his sexuality onto his daughters who he describes as “little girls”, never seen a straight, cis man do that before (why are we still here? Just to suffer?)

Enough of that. Let’s move on. Next!

You don’t have to put “he/him/his” we can all tell you’re a cishet man. This level of entitlement only occurs naturally in cishet men.

This is some next-level shit, he just snatched the L and replaced it with an A.

…. you don’t say….

…….. After looking through this blog, there’s no way this person isn’t a troll. But I’m leaving them in this post, because discourse has created a climate where this shit is believable. There’s people on both sides of the fence who’ve interacted with this blog without realizing it’s fake.

And to the person who’s behind this, you are garbage. You’re spreading misinformation and homophobia. You’re still putting negativity and bigotry out into the world, whether it’s real or not. And I’m assuming you’re an exclusionist- yet you’re hurting your own cause. You’re creating a false narrative and delegitimizing exclusionists’ arguments. There is an actual homophobia problem in the inclusionist community, but you’re diverting attention away from that. You’re also hurting your fellow exclusionists by spreading homophobic sentiments. I hope your toenail falls off and you drop your phone in a puddle.

Fuck you.

I just wanna give up. Tumblr says I can’t post anymore images, but this blog in particular is a treasure trove of cringe, so I’ll be back with more 🤙

[thewordvalid]

you know what my mood rn is? exclusionist on main! rampant heterophobic cisphobe on main! we need to normalise ace exclusion as a logical observation of power structures and real spaces instead of the mean bigotry that inclusionists tactically rumour it to be. we need to stop caring about mutuals who might unfollow, because ace inclusion really boils down to cishet apologism and misunderstanding of structural oppression and the lgbt community’s purpose and they’re just taking out the trash for you. keeping ace discourse within a bubble where it’s just people’s secret sideblogs in a specific tag on tumblr does nothing to change the world outside of this. it also just backs up inclusionist’s arguments because they see all these exclusionists being too worried to voice their opinions outside of tumblr and think that’s proof that inclusionists are more common, instead of proof that lgbt people avoid criticising cishet people in real life or non-anonymous online spaces due to the imbalance of power and genuine fear it brings.

[were-wolfcourse]

Its utterly disgusting how ace tumblr steals “we are here we are queer”, a phrase used to combat the AIDS crisis, to defend their cishet bootlicker oppression fantasy while also being collectively repugnant serophobic and homophobic dumpster fire scum.

[peachdiscourse]

:0 this person is aro-ace who would’ve guessed

[still-a-thot]

hot take, listen up

lgbt =/= not cis/straight

the lgbt community was formed to combat homophobia and transphobia

that’s why there hasn’t been an a for asexual, or a + for mogai in it from the beginning

the first one mentioned wouldn’t face homophobia or transphobia on the basis of being ace. the second wasn’t a thing until recently because nobody had that much free time and (i mean this due to class, not other tumblr crap) privilege to worry that much

the lgbt community, and pride as an extension, isn’t a “hey you’re not normal, come join our slumber party”, it’s “hey, you got punched for being bi, she got thrown out for being trans, i got arrested for being gay, its illegal for us to exist, let’s uh idk stop that”

this isnt saying only lesbian, gay, bi and trans people experience discrimination. it’s saying that’s not the point. other people deserve communities to help their own issues. but an asexual won’t get the resources they need from the LGBT, as it wasn’t made to cater for their needs. they deserve their own community, to help their needs.

also while im here putting the black and brown stripes on the gay flag was unnecessary, disrespectful and actually made it less ~inclusive~

[tea-and-biscourse]

Can you imagine hating lesbians so much that you’d go to the trouble of growing and maintaining long nails that you don’t like just to avoid being associated with them?

^found this on an ace forum

[estradiol]

Iconic

[gaywoodwraith-deactivated202508]

sorry but if you call people “sexed-up” just for being critical of the idea of blanket inclusion of all asexual people in lgbt spaces and activism, then you are What? you guessed it, a homophobe and transphobe

[goodbye--1989]

Yeah I guess mogai ace shit being included is neato and all if you are that shit buuuuuuut, in case you were blinded by tumblr politics and whatever echo chamber you might be in, skipping over potential LGBT inclution in media for something “more inclusive” and also easily ignorable like aces or aros is actually homophobia, especially since so much lgbt media is just us dying or getting hurt

[ace-discourse-resource]

exclusionists: this person, who also happens to be ace, has said very harmful homophobic and transphobic things to me and other people

inclusionists: Well yeah but we're not all like that!!!!!

cishet ace: this mean allo made fun of me and said I wasn't q***r :(

inclusionists: wow I guess all exclusionists should really die uh

[skyebluuart]

Block @creemmerie

Not because she’s ace, but because she’s a homophobe :)

[thotsune]

(1/3) i’m so so tired of the ace “discourse” because 99.9999999849727497% of it is them just being straight up homophobic and pressed that they aren’t oppressed. their rhetoric so heavily consists of them claiming they are, but they aren’t killed, sent to concentration camps, or deemed as illegal in other countries. they so badly don’t want to recognize their privilege that it makes me ill, and most of it consists of “i was called homophobic!!! uwu the allos are big meanies” but they don’t have

(2/3) the critical thinking skills to examine what they’re saying. they’ve been told they’re inherently lgbt by society bc we’ve normalized mogai (hello, literally every acronym to the cishets is like LGBTQIAPNB2S+) and now because they feel like they’re inherently lgbt they can tell us what to do, which includes gatekeeping us and telling us we’re not allowed certain things like pda. it reeks of homophobia but their response is “i can’t be homophobic, i’m ace/aro/whatever, so i’m inherently

(3/3) lgbt!!” and then they get mad when we point out these literal facts. oh and even some of them want us to normalize the f slur, one that is still very frequently used against us still in the age of trump land as if no one uses it anymore, which they do. doing so only normalizes it for cishets to continue to use in a hateful manner. sorry i know i’m like venting a lot here but i’ve had so many aces call me a dyke or try and convince me i’m not a lesbian and i’m honestly so tired of it.

- I don’t have much to say other than you’re right especially with the “using your identity as an excuse for questionable behaviour”

[estradiol]

@guillot1ne wow totally real. i can’t believe op has an actual ace concentration camp and no one is talking abt this!!!! ur so woke 😍😍😍

there are gay men in actual camps and you choose to care about some post on tumblr about some fake oppression lol iconic