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[lenoue]

may this fandom realise that the person who loves you enough to die for you can still retain the capacity to hurt you immensely. abuse does not necessarily happen in the absence of love, it happens in the absence of respect and understanding.

[girlwonderous]

guys there’s nothing to debate about in text victim blaming of jason. Implying that Jason could’ve acted in some way or another to prevent his own death or that there was something inherent about him that led him to die is victim blaming no matter how nice u try to put it. That’s why it’s so normalized and easy to perpetuate.

[anarchistredhood]

How did you get here???

[hard--byte]

the hottest thing a guy can be is barely conscious on the floor while someone lifts his head up by the hair so that you can see his glazed out eyes and the blood running down his face

[0zeros]

I have this situation in my mind where Jaybin meets with Jason. It could happen through some multiverse or timeline shenanigans or anything that throws them together.

Jaybin takes one look at Jason and immediately notices how tired he is. Not just physically tired, but the kind of tired that settles into your bones. He looks at Jason for a long moment before asking quietly,

"Seems like Bruce isn't the dad we thought he'd be, huh?"

Jason gives him a small smile. "No," he says softly. "He isn't anymore."

Jaybin raises an eyebrow. "Oh? So... he was? Before?"

Jason lets out a quiet laugh, more bitter than amused. "Yeah. Yeah, he was. Once upon a time."

Jaybin falls silent for a moment, trying to fit that answer into everything he knows. "So... we're back to taking care of ourselves, huh?" he asks. "Just like before."

Jason looks at the kid in front of him. So young. So familiar. "Yeah," he admits. "And... sorry to disappoint you, but as you can see, I'm not exactly sure I'm doing a very good job."

Jaybin frowns immediately, like the idea itself is ridiculous. "I think you're doing a good job."

Jason blinks.

"You've survived, haven't you?" Jaybin continues. "You're still alive. Maybe your life is horrible right now, but we'll survive."

He shrugs, like it's the most obvious thing in the world. "We survived after Dad left. We survived after Mom overdosed and died. We survived when we had nothing. So we'll survive this too."

Jason doesn't answer right away. He just stands there, thinking. When he finally looks back at Jaybin, he sees it; the fire still burning in those young eyes. The stubborn determination to survive. To keep living, no matter what. Somewhere deep inside him, something warm stirs. Something that almost feels like hope.

Jason smiles, this one softer than before. "Okay," he says quietly. "We'll survive."

Then he pauses for a little while and continue. "And maybe... maybe one day we won't just survive."

His smile grows just a little. "We'll live. We'll build the life we deserve."

Jaybin grins back without hesitation. "Yeah," he says. "That sounds better."

[jocy]

[c0nstel]

fun jason todd was originally 12-13 when he died proof i just thought of while rereading legends:

bruce references what joker “did to Catwoman” in legends #4, which, from the editor’s note, we know is specifically referring to TEC #570, therefore, since we also know the entire legends event takes place as one continuous narrative over ~1 week, then the entire legends event must take place sometime after TEC #570

in TEC #571, we see jason’s gravestone, which places the story in the year of jason’s 12th birthday. given there’s nothing to imply a significant passage of time between TEC #570 and TEC #571, we can assume legends also takes place in the year of jason’s 12th birthday

legends was, of course, the first major event following COIE, and we know it hasn’t been that long since, as wally is still adjusting to being the new flash. this means we can reasonably assume that COIE took place in the same year as jason’s 11th or 12th birthday

we know that dick turned 20 the november after COIE (which took place in july), ergo, dick turned 20 the same year jason turned 11/12

dick wasn’t yet 22 in deathstroke the terminator annual #1, which takes place after tim has already been introduced and debuted as robin, meaning dick was at most 21 when jason died, or, jason died in the year of dick’s 22nd birthday. from there, if jason turned 11/12 the same year dick turned 20, then ADITF must have taken place in the year of his 13/14th birthday, which—considering his august birthday—would make him 12/13 years old upon his death in the spring

a bit more convoluted than just using batman annual #12, so its not my favorite, but its satisfying 🙂‍↕️

[riverlarking]

to all the books that i’ve read 1/3rd of

[sora-no]

I can't win on this site. I blocked tim's main tag just to have my feed full of Dick fans arguing with the wall that he's the best. bro we all know this. we all know he's dc specialest boy. but I don't careereee I DONT CARE THAT EVERYONE GOT HIS BACK WHEN HE GOT SHOT IN THE HEAD OR THAT HE LOOKS GOOD ALL THE TIME OR THAT HES GETTING CONTENT LEFT AND RIGHT OR THAT EVERYONE WOULD PICK HIM I DONT CARE BECAUSE IT SHOULD BE HAPPENING TO JASON INSTEAD

[sora-no]

Anyway I don't hate dick I just love complaining and I care about Jason more so I'm getting annoyed

[rollcody]

[3000s]

[majiburger]

man, batman #409 is such a trip. ma gun trains an entire school of boys for a museum heist, boys who are all arguably around the same age and same social demographic/circumstances as jason, and jason repeatedly emphasizes how bad the cops and social services are for kids, only for bruce to adopt.....just him.....because he acted like a vigilante and stopped the heist (ideal robin candidate). there isn't even a mention of "bruce wayne" doing something for those other kids, but batman picks jason to ride off into the sunset with him, because jason acted in a way that set him apart from those other boys. even though jason is just like the other boys (poor), he acted like a vigilante would, which allows bruce to instantly project onto him and bring him into the vigilante life. bruce had already started projecting onto jason after learning about catherine and willis, but somehow, the ma gunn heist ends up being an audition for the role, an audition jason didn't know he was even giving. there's this intriguing review by @/cybernex on leagueofcomicgeeks about how lowkey tragic it is that the only way jason can escape his unfortunate circumstances is by turning into a crimefighter, and although i do think bruce & robin!jason's relationship is often so very sweet, it is also a story of how a young boy is ultimately shaped by the destiny his father wrote for him.

but what's interesting to me is how #409 is in conversation with #408. i've seen very few people mention this, but bruce doesn't instantly adopt jason after the tire meet-cute for a few reasons, the biggest reason of all being that he's in a phase where he's really questioning his impact as batman. dick's "death" in the media leads to a public outcry against batman, an outcry that vicki vale supports ("who better than bruce wayne to understand -- and take a stand against -- the violence of a batman? violence which can only lead to more violence.") bruce himself begins to wonder why he returns to crime alley as batman on his parents' anniversary, only to never visit again for the rest of the year. this is why he entrusts ma gun with jason. he outright says she's doing more for crime alley than he is (lol). bruce does not actually have any hubris in #408 and acknowledges that robin might be a dangerous job for little kids (heck, he even thought it was dangerous for dick, who was in his twenties atp).

but #409 undoes all of the developments in #408 through the reveal that ma gunn was secretly a villain this whole time. and this ends up accidentally becoming a sort of,,,,,fate thing for bruce. there's a world's finest issue (#7, i think?) where bruce says he was destined to meet dick and jason, and i think that mentality applies here as well. bruce thought he was going about things the wrong way, but when ma gunn is proven to be a villain and jason once again stumbles into his life at around the same time, it can't be anything else but fate that brought them together. bruce tried to hand jason off to someone else, to do things the non-batman way, but in the end, TO HIM, it feels like a sign that jason is back in batman's life. that they took ma gun down together. combine this with his empty nest syndrome post-dick and the craving he has as an orphan to create bonds and families, it must have all connected in bruce's mind like a puzzle. jason was meant for this life.

BUT THEN. the garzonas case happens, and ethiopia happens, and now bruce....once again begins questioning destiny, questioning himself, wondering if he fated jason to his death or if jason was doomed from the beginning. and then UTRH happens, and the "fate" aspect of it amplifies even more. now the question is - was jason always destined to become the red hood? which is just,,,,,so exemplative of how pattern-brained bruce is. everything has to fit a narrative; if something happens, there must always have been clues that led up to it. everything has got to be a part of a larger puzzle that he doesn't have the pieces to, because he doesn't know how to make sense of his own world without all of it having meaning. he can't fathom chance or acts of randomness. it's all about manifestation and destiny. there has to be a reason for everything, a clue he just hasn't found yet, because even at his grown age, bruce still hasn't made peace with the unknown and that things can just,,,,happen, even to the people we thought it would never happen to.

[gaphic]

Idk where people get the idea that ‘erasure’ is like, a preferable alternative to violence. Erasure is not the absence of violence, it is the systematic refusal to acknowledge violence. It’s watching a drowning man and refusing to help. It’s turning your back on the sick, the starving, and the imprisoned.

This website has multiple well-known posts about how medical misogyny means most people don’t know that women can have different heart attack symptoms than men. That is erasure, and it kills people.

[hyperfixatedfandomer]

It’s not lost on me how Jason is the only Robin to come from a life of poverty and crime, and is treated like a fundamentally broken monster in many comic books, given even less grace than Damian. “Something is not right with that boy” FUCK YOU DC. He was twelve years old. Him being slightly agressive because he knew, better than Batman or Nightwing or Barbara, how rotten Gotham was because he GREW UP in that environment did not make him evil or broken.

He just wanted to help people.

[mikakuna]

the angst potential of jason overhearing this knowing he got the 'good soldier' treatment + jason realizing deep down that nobody would ever defend him like this, not out loud

bruce may also call jason his son but it feels different. when bruce calls jason his son or says something loving to him, it's typically after he completely shattered him, psychologically or physically, so the supposed sweet moment fails hard

jason goes crawling back to him every time tho and that about sums him up

[diseasedbreeze]

Controversial but I feel like they're taking events from pre new52 Jason and rewriting them in the new canon to completely remove any hint of Bruce's involvement in them. The big one to note is Rocky, Jason's first kill now happens before Bruce adopts him and without his knowledge so Jason is both 100% responsible for that death with no ambiguity but Bruce didn't even know about it so he doesn't have an opinion on it. Jason being angry at Bruce for covering up his father being murdered by Twoface, resulting in him deciding not to kill Twoface for revenge is now Jason finding out about Penguin killing his father years later with Bruce not being involved in the coverup and deciding to torture Penguin to death slowly (even though his father is alive). Sheila Haywood doesn't exist any more, Jason really just decided he could solo joker and died. Jason makes worse decisions and Bruce isn't even slightly involved in a way that might influence his philosophy. Bruce telling Jason that Father's avenge Sons as a form of warning him about consequences and Jason throwing it back in his face on his return makes sense. Jason who never got told that by Bruce deciding it's his core philosophy out of the blue doesn't.

[cheshmenoor]