A Day In The Life de una chica Acuariana.

McLennon Shipeadora

[muzaktomyears]

interview with Bob Bonis (tour manager for the US tours)

[nemperor]

are there any photos with all the known lovers Brian had?

We don't have any (confirmed) photos of Brian with any of his partners himself, but we do have photos of them individually.

Joe Flannery was Brian's boyfriend in 1962 and was also a booking manager for the Beatles for a year.

According to Flannery, Brian had a one night stand with Little Richard in 1962 (Little Richard might have even alluded to it in conversation with Philip Norman).

Peter "Bette" Bourne was Brian's boyfriend in 1964 for two months; John apparently wasn't a huge fan of him.

Do we count John Lennon? We can count John Lennon. (In which case we obviously have many photos of Brian and John together; this is from shortly after Barcelona.)

And then there's Diz. This photo might be of him and Brian (as one of only three people to have seen a confirmed photo of Diz, albeit in old age, there is some resemblance in my opinion).

So there you go! Hope this helped!

[englishwalrus]

This cunt I can’t

[peaceminus28]

Penn Jillette mention Lennon-McCartney as "love affair" compilation

"Business partners, I mean, the most important thing about our partnership is it's not based on cuddly love and affection….. I mean, Lennon and McCartney had a love affair pretty clearly. Martin and Lewis had a love affair, Jagger and Richards had a love affair. And when that goes south, when all of a sudden love fades away, it becomes a huge explosion. I mean, Lennon and McCartney hated each other. And with working with Teller there was no real attraction. "(2010)

Penn and Teller are not like other famous duos, says Penn Jillette , the larger and more talkative of the two magicians. Lennon and McCartney, Martin and Lewis, Jagger and Richards—these relationships were rooted in love and affection, and “when all of a sudden love fades away it becomes a huge explosion.”(2010)

"I believe that the volatile groups Lennon and McCartney, Martin and Lewis, Gilbert and Sullivan… We don’t have teams nowadays, we have to go back in time, but um, Martin and Lewis, and specially Lennon and McCartney - those two groups..were love affairs, those were two people who fell in love; Lennon and McCartney were certainly in love. And then when things start to not go right, love is heartbreaking."(2011)

Though he(Penn) has called Teller his best friend, Penn has said that the two share few common interests, and that unlike famously volatile partnerships based in intense personal relationships—such as Jerry Lewis and Dean Martin, or John Lennon and Paul McCartney—they benefit professionally from giving each other “space” in their offstage lives. (2017)

"Most teams start out as love affairs. I mean, certainly Lennon-McCartney, certainly Martin and Lewis, and Teller and I never felt that. "(2017)

"That said; the longevity of our relationship comes from an absence of love. I believe that Martin & Lewis are the best example, but you also have Lennon & McCartney, Gilbert & Sullivan… these are teams that fell in love. Lennon & McCartney were- by every definition- madly, head over heels in love with each other. When that falls apart, it’s horrible, heart breaking… When these two men discovered they wanted to have girlfriends, marriages and a personal life? The rejection they felt was heartbreaking.

All that said, over 45 years Teller has become I best friend. When our parents died, when I was married, when I had children….. I mean the first person to hold my children after my wife and I, was Teller. The difference is that Lennon & McCartney wanted to be breathing each other’s air, they wanted to be close to each other, and feel that affection. As soon as they weren’t getting along, it was heartbreaking. "(2020)

The magician Penn Jillette once said that the secret of his 50 year professional relationship with partner Teller is that they were never friends.

Citing the example of The Beatles, he stated that John Lennon and Paul McCartney "fell in love and put that in front of the job", whereas he and Teller were business partners first and foremost.(2025)

"Well, you know, many of your teams fall in love. I mean, Lennon and McCartney were in love." (2025)

I asked Jillette why he said onstage that he rarely agreed with Teller when it's clearly not true, and he replied, "It's useful.” He brought up how bands get emotionally sloppy and break up over petty relationship issues. "I'm mad at Lennon and McCartney for falling in love and putting that in front of the job,” he said, changing the tone in his voice.(2026)

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Does anybody know Penn relationship with Paul? i know he analysis abt Now and Then when the single release.

"head over heels" "breathing each other air" "fall in love put that infront of job" the word he describe ITS INSANE.

[undying-love]

"The magic eventually had to wear off. The glue had turned flaky. The honeymoon was over. The divorce lawyers had moved in. The Bonnie and Clyde* of rock ‘n roll had pulled their last job. Busted. Caught red-handed with lives, wives and children of their own. Finito." (Ruth McCartney)

*Bonnie and Clyde were two lovers who were partners in crime....

[james-winston]

The Beatles @ Granada TV Studios, Manchester, 14th October 1964

[undying-love]

From Mark Lewisohn's Tune In: "Was Woolton fete the first time John met Paul? A riddle in two paragraphs: In certain private company, Paul sometimes reveals that he hadn’t only seen John on buses before the Woolton fete, but they’d also exchanged a few words. Paul says he was working as a paperboy (on his bike, delivering the Echo to local houses in the evenings) when he once talked to John outside the newsagent’s shop. John never mentioned it, and Paul has chosen, consistently for decades, never to say it publicly. He was a paperboy after the McCartneys relocated to Forthlin Road in summer 1956, when he turned 14. Paul is shy about giving away the shop’s identity to anyone who’d print it, but one local family who knew him think it was “Abbas.”

From beatlesliverpoollocations.blogspot.com:

The unnamed family mentioned in Mark Lewisohn’s notes are the Hodgsons. In 1956 Charles (senior) and his wife Annie were living at 111 Stamfordham Drive, Allerton with their two sons, Reginald, 26 and Charles, 14. Peter Hodgson, Reginald's son, has told me how his Uncle Charlie got to know the 14 years old Paul McCartney when he was working as a paper boy. Peter Hodgson: In or around 2010 I told Mark [Lewisohn] that (Paul had worked at) the shops at the Cenotaph, right by my Dad’s [...]  We now know that sometime in the past, Paul has revealed the actual first meeting between himself and John and where that meeting took place. I think someone close to Paul has let the cat out of the bag to Mark and (Lewisohn) has wanted to know the name and location of Abbas in 1956. At this time and in the subsequent years, the locals will still have referred to the shop as Abbas when mentioning it, hence it was still known as Abbas by my Dad and brother...many decades later. This is where the confusion started as to the shop’s location as Mark was relying on documentation only, whereas I was relying on first hand witnesses who actually lived literally yards away. I got it straight from Macca, face to face, he agreed and nodded when I mentioned Abbas so when I told Mark many years later he went searching and could only find an Abba in Aigburth. What’s interesting is that at some point Mark actually asked Paul the name of the newsagent’s he delivered for in Allerton. Paul refused to answer him. An unusual refusal for such a seemingly trivial question. [Peter was pleased with what my own research had uncovered, for personal family reasons as much as for the benefit of Beatle’s history. (He said to me): You finding W.W. Abba at 85 Woolton Road vindicated me to Mark, as it’s impossible for me, my Dad or Uncle Charlie to have been making it up].

(Scene from the Fuh You music video. The location of the newsagent, W.W. Abba at Woolton Road, is on the left, which is shown as Paul sings, "on the night that I met you...". The Liverpool local who found the newsagent did his research much earlier than the release of this video. He was shocked when he saw it.)

[bodhbdearg]

The thing that interests me most about this account is what is reveals about ML's working methods, which seems to prioritise documentary sources over oral accounts. This is a perfectly reasonable approach that most historians would take, as oral recollections can be confusing and distorted by normal memory failure, agendas etc. But this account does seem to display a certain lack of imagination on his part. It would make sense, in a scenario such as this, to retain both the oral and the documentary evidence, even if they contradict each other, and present them in the text, acknowledging the contradiction and letting the reader decide what seems most likely. That way, any further supporting evidence for either position that may arise will already have all the relevant information to build on. It may seem like a trivial point but he did many oral interviews with others and used it to inform his research, so it would've made sense to do the same here, even if it was just a quick conversation.

[bambi-kinos]

Mark Lewison also makes shit up and kitbashes quotes together to fabricate evidence: https://therealtamishow.com/2025/06/12/a-beatle-didnt-say-that-lewisohns-cooked-up-lab-created-quotes/

I'm not saying none of this is true but Marky Mark is a proven liar.

[undying-love]

"Please Please Me was a John idea. John liked the double meaning of “please”. Yeah, “please” is, you know, pretty please. “Please have intercourse with me. So, pretty please, have intercourse with me, I beg you to have intercourse with me.” He liked that, and I liked that he liked that. This is the kind of thing in which we were matched up. We were in sync." -Paul (The Lyrics, 2021)

[strawberryfieldsmclennon]

Bio Pics

"For those questioning whether the upcoming Beatles biopics will be accurate, they are officially endorsed. Apple Corps Ltd., Paul McCartney, Ringo Starr, and the Lennon and Harrison families have all granted full life‑story rights and full music rights, something that has never happened before.

• Full life‑story rights

• Full likeness rights

• Full music rights

• Direct collaboration with Apple Corps executives

This is explicitly stated in Sony’s press release and repeated across multiple independent news sources. This is the first time in history that the Beatles have allowed this level of access for scripted films. When Apple Corps and the families grant life‑story rights, it means:

• The filmmakers can use real events, real conversations, and real personal histories without legal barriers.

• The estates can correct inaccuracies during production.

• The music catalog — normally extremely restricted — can be used in full context.

• Apple Corps executives (including Jeff Jones) are directly involved in oversight. sonypictures...

This level of cooperation is extremely rare. Historically, Beatles biopics were limited, unauthorized, or blocked entirely because Apple Corps refused to sign off...because Apple Corps and the families are involved:

• Major factual errors are unlikely.

• Music and archival context will be authentic.

• Character portrayals must align with what the estates approve.

• The production has access to private materials that unauthorized films never get."

"https://www.facebook.com/beatlesphotofantasies

Character portrayals must align with what the estates approve.

Okay, but when it comes to John and Paul, Paul is the only living person who know what went behind closed door between him and John. Sam Mendes has also said that there will be a sex scene between John and Paul. Not sure how serious he is, or whether he's talking about portraying an actual event or whether it would be a dream. So, they include McLennon because Jez Butterworth, Peter Straughan and Jack Thorne all think that a romantic/sexual relationship happened between John and Paul. Let's take wishful thinking and make it writ large. Paul tells them he and John in fact did have a relationship with each other. He wants that portrayed in the movie. The Lennon Estate says no. Or vice versa. Who gets what they want? Does this bode well for any sort of depiction of a romantic/sexual relationship between John and Paul?

[satonme]

*drumroll* Hello, hello! Introducing Fiona Fu’s latest comic (I think) in English! Please give a round of applause to lavenderflyingpig for translating the comic, and a round for uh, me (satonme) since I put all the text together haha! Thank you Fiona, for making this translation happen! <3  

[maccasmccartney]

John writing ‘I love Elvis’ on a portrait of Paul.

John defacing a portrait of Paul.

[whichwaydidjohngo]

video from the Cleveland press conference where Paul keeps saying “isn’t that John really something” :)))

[undying-love]

Just saw two comments: "there is a new trend of complete randos (people who usually don't post about the beatles or even about 60s/70s music) making posts about mclennon and i don't think i like it" and "mclennon finally going mainstream with popular situationships i literally gasped so loudly and almost dropped my phone"

Why do you think there was this surge of mclennon content and interest? I'm kind of expecting a boom in fanarts and fanfictions and posts after the biopics, it wouldn't surprise me, but it does indeed surprise me that so many new people are jumping onto this train now.

Ps: since we're on the topic, do you have info about how mclennon was perceived in the '60? I know women created a whole shipping fandom for Kirk and Spock in those years, I get that it was illegal until 1967 but I also find it hard to believe there wasn't shipping content/speculation going around.

I think it is a combination of several things that have happened over the last decade. The Understanding Lennon & McCartney YouTube series was released in the mid-2010s and then reuploaded many times afterward, and it ended up getting a lot of views. Even skeptical people were surprised by how much they learned about John and Paul's relationship just from watching it. The creator didn't really have to argue for anything; they simply laid out real quotes and videos and let people draw their own conclusions. Then, around the late 2010s, you also had the OSD and AKOM podcasts, and of course, the Get Back documentary. I remember reading a lot of discussions about Get Back on the Beatles subreddit, and there were countless comments along the lines of, "I now know they were just friends, but not gonna lie, there were some scenes that made me think, 'Wait... were John and Paul ever...?'" I've also seen many people across social media share similar experiences, saying that friends or relatives who knew nothing about mclennon noticed the intensity between them while watching the documentary. That isn't really surprising because there are quite a few "WTF" moments in Get Back, especially during the conversations about India (not to mention the intense eye contant between them). Then you have Now and Then, with people involved in the project—like Giles Martin and Peter Jackson—describing it as a love letter from John to Paul, and even Paul himself saying that he prefers that interpretation. And, of course, Ian Leslie (who was heavily influenced by the OSD podcast)'s book became a bestseller and generated a lot of discussion in both the media and among celebrities. So it doesn't surprise me at all that mclennon has been attracting more curiosity from both Beatles fans and the general public after everything that has happened over the last decade.

Now, regarding your question about how McLennon was perceived in the 60s, the main things we have are insiders making suggestive comments, as well as people questioning John and Paul's sexuality. Yes, I do know about that magazine where fans listed the things they liked about each Beatle, and under Paul's section someone wrote, "his looks at John." But personally, I don't think that necessarily means they were "shipping" them or interpreting it romantically. I think they simply found it endearing and thought the way they looked at each other was cute. It's also important to remember that vast majority of young fans at the time were incredibly naive about homosexuality. Some people genuinely didn't even know what it was. Freda Kelly (who was the secretary of the Beatles Fan Club) is a good example. She said that when people were saying Brian Epstein was gay, she didn't even know what that meant until John explained it to her. On the other hand, many Apple Scruffs, such as Lizzie Bravo, noticed how intensely close John and Paul were, how in sync they seemed, and how often John went to Paul's house compared to the others. Yet Lizzie herself only saw them as friends and even expressed disgust when she heard people suggesting there was something romantic between them. Now, there is also an interesting anecdote shared by the user @mclennonwasreal. He said he had been in contact with a woman who had been an Apple Scruff, and she told him that she and her friends definitely noticed there was something unusual about John and Paul's relationship, but they didn't really understand what they were seeing at the time. It was such a taboo subject that they simply didn't discuss it until many years later, when they began looking back and wondering whether what John and Paul had really fit the definition of a purely platonic relationship.

As for Kirk and Spock, I do know people were shipping them in the 70s, but I think that's a little different because they were fictional characters. Shipping real people is a much more recent phenomenon and really became widespread after the 90s. And, as I mentioned, most young Beatles fans in the 60s were still very naïve about homosexuality. By the 70s, society had changed somewhat, but by then John and Paul were married to women, had kids, were living on different continents, and no longer performing together. If the Beatles had still existed as a band throughout the 70s and 80s, then yes, I think there probably would have been a greater chance of seeing fans speculating about them and scrutinizing their relationship more. But as far as the 60s go, what we mainly have are rumors, suggestive comments from people within their circle, and people working at Apple or in the studio coming up with nicknames that mocked their relationship (and apparently there were other nicknames besides "John's Princess," by the way). @packyourromanticmind mentioned knowing someone whose father worked part-time as a driver for the Beatles, and he said there were rumors among the staff and people in that circle about John and Paul being together. Then you have people like Yoko, Francie, and Maggie, all of whom noticed the intensity between them. Different insiders interpreted that intensity differently. Some—such as Peter Brown, Ruth McCartney, Marianne Faithfull, and Ray Connolly—made comments that at least suggest they believed John and Paul's relationship was much more emotionally loaded than an average "platonic" friendship, even if they didn't necessarily think they were lovers. Others, like Alistair Taylor, also spoke about how extraordinarily close they were, while still describing the Beatles as "rampantly heterosexual." So I think it's not surprising that there wasn't much fan speculation or fan-created content about John and Paul during the 60s. Most fans only saw them in televised interviews, concerts, films, and magazine photos. In those settings, they could certainly be playful and affectionate with each other, but probably not in a way that most people at the time would have interpreted as anything more than close friendship and playful banter. The people who really got to witness the relationship up close (family members, insiders, Apple staff, journalists who spent extended periods with them, and friends) were in a much better position to notice just how unusually intense that relationship actually was.

[undying-love]

"Well, [The Beatles] get along remarkably well under the circumstances", observed the wife of an important member of their movie crew, "But Paul and John have a way of turning out the others when they're on. George and Ringo sometimes sort of wander away." (Phyllis Batelle, during the filming of the Help! movie)

"I found this out from my mother who was a 'go for' for a music director in the 60's. She worked behind the scenes for the 'Help!' music video. She has seen John and Paul backstage and always refers to their behaviour around each other as cute, and claims after spending a few minutes with them it was obvious they were deeply in love. She said that George and Ringo would always excuse themselves whenever John and Paul began chatting up each other.” (Datalounge comment)

[aceonthebass]

I did my best, but it still isn’t perfectly synced (I think the footage speeds up and slows down inconsistently). Still, it’s at least closer than the original!

[tar-tar-from-the-mclennons]

I can’t sleep and I’ve just watched this video 50 times so i’m gonna dissect it, probably nothing you haven’t all noticed yourself but hey, whatever:

We start with Paul looking off to the side, rather than at John who is speaking. They both look really relaxed and comfortable. As you may know, i have mixed feelings about John, but whenever i see interviews of him (particularly early on) i just see him as this defensive, abandoned boy, who will use humour and (if necessary) insults and violence to protect himself. I get that vibe here. Not that he looks uncomfortable, as such, but it’s like he feels better about himself if he’s making people (and especially Paul) laugh.

John then does his usual silly face (which i hate, but we move) and there’s a little pause before Paul’s responding laugh.

Paul’s laugh!! Very genuine. We know he found John hilarious and I think that definitely shows. I do get a slight “my boyfriend is SO FUNNY I will laugh at literally anything he says” vibe here and you know what? I am so here for that. Laugh at your loved ones’ jokes, make them feel good about themselves. If that isn’t a sign of love, idk what is.

Now Paul actually focuses his attention on John. Maybe it’s the McLennon goggles, but to me, it seems like Paul’s whole face and demeanour changes. His expression somehow simultaneously softens and sharpens - how is that even a thing? It seems very involuntary too. (I bet he didn’t think someone would be laying in bed 60+ years later dissecting every frame of the video!)

Paul’s eyes. This is my favourite part of the whole clip. Whether you ship it or you don’t or you’re not sure: those eyes be flickering. Up and down. Eyes and lips. What could that possibly mean…?

That expression. It’s bordering on awe. John also looks quite serious at this point and again, is it the McLennon goggles? But Paul looks very… admiring, appreciative. He certainly has a very good look at him.

Paul then seems to realise he wants to be funny too - what’s better than your best mate being the funniest bloke in the room?? Well, making the funniest bloke in the room laugh, obviously.

John’s very focused now… Paul even stutters his punchline, but John’s gaze is trained on him (I know his vision was bad but i’m guessing he could see Paul pretty well at that distance lmao)

This look. My god. Are you kidding me? The smiles? The synchronised movements? They look in love!! How can you possibly watch this and not think they look like they’re in love with one another. This is what I struggle with the most, I think, when people say “they were just besties”, and i fully respect their opinion ofc, but do besties look at one another like that? Really?

The ending is super cute. They are so in sync and they look so happy as well. Their smiles!

Thankyou for reading this if you did. As always, my inbox is open and anon is on. As I said, this isn’t anything anyone hasn’t already noticed, but I just wanted to post it.

Now I’ll attempt to sleep again! X

[undying-love]

"Paul and John have a way of turning out the others when they're on"

"They would have to be angels," observed a member of the film crew, "to get along privately as well as they get on publicly." The Beatles are decidedly not angels. Legend and press agentry have it that The Beatles are just one big, sardonic, incorrigible family full of laughs, but closer than brothers among themselves, yeah, yeah, yeah. "Well, they get along remarkably well under the circumstances", observed the wife of an important member of their movie crew, "But Paul and John have a way of turning out the others when they're on. George and Ringo sometimes sort of wander away." I observed this too. John and Paul, the songwriters, are often a duet, with George and Ringo acting as loners. "John," their manager Brian Epstein has said, "is the most intense and has a temper that reddens his face at the slightest rub". "Lennon," confides a publicity man, "uses others to bring him out of his moodiness. The one who does it best is Paul." [...] I found Paul to be glib and amusingly cynical, as contrasted to his cohort, John Lennon, who was amusingly, and sometimes bemusingly, dour. I felt Paul would be easier to talk to, if he could be led away from John, a feat that I was unable, with politeness, to accomplish." —My Three Days With The Beatles", by Phyllis Batelle (1965)

[loveonthelips-blog]

Can we please please please enter the timeline where we learn to commune with the dead and have these two finally work out what’s going on between them… they got so close 💔