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Gonna reblog this every time it pops up on my dashboard.
This scene is so interesting in terms of character exposure for a war boy (like I said before I really hold with the idea that Nux is never really an individual character in the film but rather remains a symbol of all war boys.)Â
Look at all the things he assumes:
-that the bloodbag is his ally, even if he points his gun at him
-that he was fighting to catch Furiosa all along, absolutely no other motive, even slaves must be completely loyal to Joe! Right?
-even though only a short while ago he was using this guy like an object, doesnât even occur to him that the bloodbag might have a bone to pick?
-that the fight is over even though only Furiosa has been subdued (again, wives are objects, shiny chrome objects)
-the question: What are you gonna ask for? First of all, why is he asking, is he just bored, curious? Do bloodbags ever get talked to in the Citadel?
This is amazing because what do you bloody think an organ donor with a muzzle is going to ask for? Freedom! But suddenly heâs on the same level as the war boy. He can ask for stuff, heâs not an object anymore.
-why does the bloodbag even get to ask for stuff though? Why doesnât Nux take the credit for himself, why did he suddenly start seeing this guy as a human? Or, more interestingly, why, before, did he feel no qualms about using this human as an object, and taking him along with him during his unsuccessful suicide? What changed, or didnât change here?Â
-He just gives up the jacket; I guess heâs so totally sure heâll be rewarded he doesnât feel like he has to worry about it.
-He doesnât notice ANY of the bloodbagâs trauma.Â
So what, is this because of the war boy mentality, the pragmatic utilitarianism that they practice daily, or perhaps a belief in a man proving his worth in battle which the bloodbag has just very well done? Or maybe he is just so brainwashed he really believes everyone has their place in the world and if youâre a bloodbag, too bad for you, but youâve no call to argue, and if youâre a warboy, well, same applies?
Questions, questions. Itâs a lovely scene either way.
This is interesting. We already know that Furiosa worked her way up the War Boy hierarchy to become Imperator after being rejected as a breeder; it strikes me as possible that a bloodbag who helps their captors may also be given the opportunity to work their way up to War Boy status. Possibly that kind of thing has happened before and isnât uncommon, in fact itâs so common that Nux can easily assume that the bloodbag is on his side right up until Max punches him in the sternum.
Additionally, it may be that Nux may no longer see Max as an object (âhe can ask for stuffâ), but still struggles to see Max as a wholly autonomous individual with his own motivations. Later, Nux tells Capable that it was HIS bloodbag driving the War Rig that killed Angharad. Even if heâs simply acknowledging that Joe will see Maxâs actions as Nuxâs responsibility, this gives us insight into how War Boy society makes attributions for responsibility and ownership and individual identity. Nuxâs bloodbag is a part of him, therefore he has no reason to think that the bloodbag would work against him (I could go further into analyzing this from the perspective of amoebic self theory, but that might be too esoteric so Iâll stop now).
Oooh, ooh, but this helps me with a thought I had earlier about most of Nuxâs needs and wants being extensions of the Immortanâs needs and wants- there is an attempt to strip war boys of independence and make them all part of a âmachineâ (perhaps an apt comparison considering their cult revolves around machinery) whose sole purpose is to provide true comfort for only one person : Joe. The hopes and dreams of a war boy are limited, and so is his individual identity. Nux wants to die for Joe, to chase down the Rig for Joe, to capture Furiosa for Joe- everything he does is for Joe. So maybe itâs not surprising that Nux assumes his bloodbag would work for him the same way he works for the Immortan.
Then again, he must have forgotten Max is a âraging feralâ whoâs got that muzzle on for a reason.
And maybe this moment where he thinks, wait, I did what Joe asked and Iâve earned a reward, is a rare âwhat do I wantâ moment for him, and maybe thatâs why he asks Max what heâd ask for? Itâs such an unusual situation for him.
And of course all he wants is to drive the war rig. Thereâs those limits again.
(there was also a tag in one of the reblogs where someone was talking about Nux fighting the wives without actually hurting them- do remember he canât hurt them, the Immortan wants them back in one piece, thereâs no prize if he damages the âgoodsâ, and possibly terrible consequences instead, the first one being absolute failure to serve his godâs command)
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They were home and night was falling, bringing with it both exhaustion and relief. Joe was dead and his followers, grateful for their freedom, had decided to accept Furiosa and her allies as their new leaders. Several of the Organic Mechanicâs surviving assistants were currently clustered at the former Imperatorâs bedside, tending to her injuries as she rested in her old quarters, half asleep. Capable had been watching, wary of the black clad boys that hovered around her savior. An hour or more passed by before their concentrated frowns morphed into satisfied grins.
âIs she going to be okay?â Capable asked, meeting eyes with the nearest figure, a younger boy with a scarred forehead. He opened his soot-ringed mouth to speak, but closed it again upon hearing a noise from Furiosaâs bed.
âIâll be alright,â the woman somewhat hoarsely assured. âGo to bed. Weâll see each other again in the morning.â
The boys parted so that Furiosa could speak directly to her friend. It was then that she saw the tears in Capableâs eyes.
âI need to talk to you,â the redhead said, her voice choked. âI need to thank youâŠ.â
âWe can talk tomorrow.â The response was dismissive, and yet comforting. Capable remained silent for a moment, looking first at Furiosa, then at the floor. Two dark drops flattened themselves on the orange stone below her eyes.
âOkay,â the girl whispered, taking in a peaceful breath as she walked past the boys to Furiosa. In one fluid motion, she leaned forward, tucked her red-orange mane of hair behind her shoulders, and pressed her lips to Furiosaâs cheek, surprised at the softness of her skin.
âTomorrow, then,â Capable agreed, in a whisper, as she lifted her head. Unwilling to leave just yet, she took Furiosaâs hand in hers and squeezed.
The former Imperatorâs eyes slid closed, and by the time her breathing came slow and even, Capable had vanished from her room.
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Sad update everyone, Tama recently passed away⊠An estimated 3,000 people, including railway officials, attended Tama the catâs funeral on Sunday, days after she died of heart failure aged 16. [x]
For those who havenât read articles about it, the local shrine elevated her to a god. Sheâs now the Eternal Stationmaster and patron god of the station.
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Good Guy Ace?
Lately the concept of âGood Guy Aceâ has come up in discussion.
The Ace is a good guy. He works hard; he is diligent, professional, and respectful. He is extremely skilled and competent (competency porn! What a great term!). He seems like the kind of man we would want to know in our own lives; he could be easily someoneâs father, uncle, grandfather⊠The Ace is an older man secure in his strength and abilities; a man who sees people for what they can accomplish and thus does not resent a womanâs leadership, a man who lives the meritocracy he believes.
The Ace is compassionate and caring; he is concerned when Furiosa is cold to him, he bows deepest at Morsovâs death (in contrast to Slit who mocks Morsovâs sacrifice). He is intensely loyal; he shields Furiosa from Nuxâs sawed-off shotgun (and Nux in turn is unwilling to shoot a fellow War Boy out of hand). And as aforementioned, the Ace is not the kind of man who would be sitting in the back of the War Rig with the other War Boys, saying, âWomen drivers, amirite?â These values make him a good man in our world, and as far as weâre concerned, in any world.
But the Ace, no matter how much of a good guy he is, is still complicit in the system of the Citadel, an oppressive system with a foundation in dehumanization. He is trusted with protecting valuable commodities. The War Boys are literally giving their lives for commodities, because in this world, those things have more value than their labor or even their lives. The Ace also appears as one of the most pious; he bows his head the lowest when saluting Immortan Joe, and again when he Witnesses Morsov.Â
Uncritically, the Ace has no idea that the accumulation of these actions mean that he implicitly supports an oppressive system that strips him of individuality, adulthood, self-determination, and even procreation. After all, those chastity belts are meant to hurt people on both sides of the iron. As intensely manly as the War Boys are, they are essentially eunuchs, drones, interchangeable parts no more individual that a factory-produced bolt, emasculated by a cult of toxic masculinity. Immortan Joe doesnât just control the water and with it their lives; he controls all the means of production too, even the reproduction of human beings.
So how do we know for sure that the Ace is complicit in the system? After all in a fiercely male-dominated, patriarchal world, he trusts Furioa and she trusts him in return. It is obvious they have experience working side-by-side. They move as a well-rehearsed team and know each otherâs minds. But when Furiosa betrays their system, the Ace takes her by the throat. This is not the action of a man who is good in the context of our world; this is the brutal action of a man who is good in the context of their world. A man who is protecting the assets at the cost of friendship and mutual respect, profit above all else. Even though we know the Ace doesnât necessarily think âprofit before friendsâ, by attacking Furiosa and doing what he thinks is responsible, he is supporting that toxic worldview.
As much as we love the Ace, the Ace is sick like the rest of the War Boys, not only physically, and unable to see it. He has not had his eyes opened by the Splendid Angharad as Furiosa and the other Wives had. Heâs carved out a little bit of goodness in an ugly world, but the Ace, like everyone else, is a product of his environment and the system they live in. It doesnât stop him from being a good guy; itâs just that in their world, no oneâs hands are clean. Everyone is complicit, no matter how good they are and how much one wants to like them. This best example is the Keeper of the Seeds, whose last planted seed is an Anti-Seed, a rifle bullet, in Furiosaâs assailantâs eye. Even she whose mission is to give life to the wasteland is a killer, many times over, and mostly unapologetic about that, though her seeds are a chance to redeem herself.
It is important to judge characters and people by the context of their world and their society, not ours.
So in sum: Ace is a good guy. Hell, even a great guy, in the context of his world. We still love him. But one may not want him over for dinner.
I agree withâŠmost of this. But as a former soldier, Iâd like to slap down some ethos here, and, in fact, as an interrogator, I have to say, you probably wouldnât want to have ME over for dinner, either. ^_^
Iâd like to point out that itâs clear the Furiosa is ALSO complicit in this system? She likely didnât get her rank by being nice or even rebellious. She got Joeâs trust by, uh, playing the game. In fact, if you take it that she knowingly played the game in order to serve her own ends, it makes her, in a sense, morally WORSE than Ace or any of the War Boys, because she knowingly used/manipulated them. She claims agency and her first act of agency is betrayal. And that she must have done things she did not quite square with either. He might have a misguided or misaimed honor, but she is seriously crippled in the integrity department.Â
Iâd like to also point out that fighting in an army does not mean 100000000% supporting the ideology of that army. A little research into the âcomitatusâ would probably do some good hereâmilitary units coalesce around a homosocial code, so you tend to fight for your guys, rather than for that abstract idea. In other words, when I was in a firefight, I wasnât like YO BALD EAGLES FREEEEDDDDDOOOM, or even YAY PRESIDENT, I was like, SHIT theyâve got Smitty pinned down. When someone betrays you in that system, FUCK YEAH you take it personally. Ask Bowe Bergdahlâs old unit how they feel about him. Be prepared for profanity.Â
When you live close to death (which most people who can fart around on Tumblr probably donât) you DESPERATELY want meaning. You desperately want to believe that thereâs some sense or logicâif not in a sort of âmagical thinkingâ ritual you follow, then at least in the sense that when you do lose your buddies, you want to believe that it wasâŠfor something, or that they went some place other than a plastic bag. Because if you canâtâŠit crushes you.Â
Think how much death Ace has seen. That might explain his faith.Â
Ace is really clearly the very common war movie trope called the âImmortal Sergeantâ. You see this type in just about every war movie/novel ever, all the way from Kat in All Quiet on the Western Front. The Immortal Sergeant is good at combat. Heâs at home there. He canât quite fit in anywhere else, and he knows that. Because war is uncivilized, and once you get really good at crossing that line, you canât really come back. Unlike a character like Rambo, the IS is not an isolated loner who canât function in any society: he can function in his structured society. Why do most vets today try to make other vet friends?
I like both Furiosa and Ace, but I like them because theyâre flawed. I think itâs a good reminder to everyone that hey YOU TOO are complicit in a system whose values might be systemically destructive of your agency, freedom, and self determination, which likewise ALSO participates in the oppression of other groups. YOUR SOCIETY TOO views you as less than humanâyour boss views you as a source of labor, and the drive in education toward âworkforce developmentâ additionally institutionalizes the shift from âfree humanâ to âworkerâ as the primary focus of education, your society too seeks to police and limit your sexuality and self-expression, (even tumblr where you MUST FIT INTO ONE OF THESE LABELS or else), and every place that takes your money views you as a mere consumer.Â
Saying that this is just something in his world, or that heâs doing the same damn thing you probably areâŠsomehow makes him bad? WOW thatâs really dangerous. Thatâs alterity to the point of self-annihilation.
Sorry for the posthumanist theory rant there at the end. Not really.
Thanks to both of you for offering interesting perspectives.
Going back to the OP, I wanted to offer a slightly different take on this part:
But when Furiosa betrays their system, the Ace takes her by the throat. This is not the action of a man who is good in the context of our world; this is the brutal action of a man who is good in the context of their world.
I think the Aceâs actions toward Furiosa, and in particular his last action toward her, are more complicated than that. Someone posted about this a while back; I apologize for having lost track of who it was. A lot of this is repeating that personâs previous comment.
Ace is loyal to Furiosa. He questions her three times (about diverting from the road, continuing despite the flares from the Citadel, and taking on the Buzzards rather than running them into their backup), and each time he accepts her evasive response at face value.
Itâs only the last time he questions her, when the Buzzards have been defeated and sheâs continuing to drive toward the dust storm, that he escalates. âWhy canât you stop?â When Furiosa doesnât answer Ace is left with no possible explanation but the actual one: sheâs betraying Joe. He shouts at her, âWhat have you done?â Again she doesnât answer.
At this point, if Ace were merely âa brutal man who is good in the context of their worldâ, he could have incapacitated Furiosa. He could have punched her, or attacked her with some other weapon he presumably had access to. He could also have followed Nuxâs shouted instructions to get out of the way, so he (Nux) could shoot her. He didnât do any of those things. Instead, he continued to shield her from Nux while grabbing her by the throat and repeating his question, âWhat have you done?â
In the context of the kind of violence weâve seen the war rigâs crew dishing out, I donât think this constitutes an attack. Instead, it feels like a minimal escalation of force intended to compel her to answer. Ace still is motivated by his loyalty to Furiosa. He canât let her continue unimpeded. But neither is he willing to attack her. Instead, he uses a minimally violent means to compel her to answer, while leaving himself open to the counter-attack that she actually makes.
It might have been me? I posted about Ace refusing to confront the obvious evidence that Furiosa had gone rogue on him, and that this is demonstrated by his question âWhy canât you stop?â. I agree so much with what sentimental-mercenary said. Itâs so easy to be swept away by Furiosaâs competence and her mission and the fact that she is running from the âbad guysâ but she MUST have done terrible things in Joeâs name to rise to her rank. And her actions at the start of the film are motivated by feelings of revenge rather than nobility. She saves five women from captivity because they are Joeâs most valuable property. She sacrifices nearly 20 men who trusted her completely as their commander to do it. The film shows us her tears. We are supposed to know she did something terrible.
âShe saves five women from captivity because they are Joeâs most valuable property. She sacrifices nearly 20 men who trusted her completely as their commander to do it. The film shows us her tears. We are supposed to know she did something terrible.â
*flings self on sand* *screeeeeeams*
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((And despite Furiousa being good, and being an amazing character, she was very determined to have Nux killed when he gets in The Rig. She doesnât trust him, and rightfully so, but she has to be reminded by The Wives that they donât want to kill if they donât have too. Furiousa has to be reminded that she doesnât have to kill him, and that he doesnât know any better. Even after Capable says he wants to help, and that heâs good, she still refuses to trust him up until sheâs badly wounded. Which is completely different from Ace, who only lashed out at her once he realized how severe the situation was. Ace is a character of loyalty, Furiousa is a character of rage
Ace is a character of loyalty, Furiosa is a character of rage
I honestly think one of my favorite things about the Mad Max fandom is that, unlike a lot of other fandoms, I have yet to see âoriginalâ fans hipstering it out and being rude to new fans. Thereâs no condescending âWell, if you had just seen the original filmsâ, no suggestions that people need to see the first three films to âtruly appreciateâ Fury Road.
Maybe this is happening in other places in the fandom but I have yet to see it, and I think thatâs really impressive.
Well done, fandom.
Warning (4th of July)
4th of July is the Independence Day of the United States of America. Pretty big holiday. You probably already notice this. Let me make something clear.
I donât want to hear shit about how terrible America is from 12:00 AM July 4th 2015 â 11:59 PM July 4th 2015. NOTHING. Period.
As a multiracial (but mostly Black/Seminole/Polish) gay man with Jewish heritage, I am quite informed about the conditions of my country, and I donât need a fucking reminder on most days, but especially not this day. You can save your âJust a reminder that this country was built on the slave trade (:â posts and anything to do with Christopher Columbusâs fuckass or how awful Jefferson and Washington really were. Seriously. I donât want to see it.
I spend 364 days a year critiquing my own country and fighting for positive change, give me my one day to eat some goddamn apple pie and light things on fire.
I am super anti-American but fuck that on july 4th I am so pro-American like iâll shove a firework up my ass and sing yankee doodle dandy i wonât actually do that but ok
Well then I guess I will post this now since apparently everyone thinks that our America is worth praising tomorrow. Iâm sorry but tbh I hate everything that we have become. Call me bitter.
Here is the link to a video that reveals Americaâs true nature as of recent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQcCWaLXXJI
When you see those fireworks...think of the radioactive explosions overseas.
I am SO PUMPED FOR THIS THO!
Nux and Fury Mom  take on Satan.
So like Fury Road, but spooky.