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im 90% sure im getting a silken windhound AHHHHHH????
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this is very dog related so it can go here!!
im 90% sure im getting a silken windhound AHHHHHH????
i hate reaching out to breeders and instantly getting cold feet over a breed...theres a fantastic mudi breeder near by that would let me meet her dogs and she was happy to talk to me to see if a mudi would be a good fit and then i was instantly like....no back on my silken bullshit...no mudis
Sends me cold when dog trainers claim dogs will be put to sleep to avoid using different methodologies.
Dogs that get behaviourally euthenised do so because they’re a genuine danger to those around them.
Methods have nothing to do with it, what happens when the owner slips up does.
Dog trainer who cares more about his opportunities to use a prong or ecollar: this trainer recommended the dog be PTS because they’re a bad trainer who won’t use all tools!
Actual reason: The 40kg dog that redirects on its owner and leaves deep punctures is at serious risk of killing its owner.
Dog trainer who cares more about promoting their methodology: this rescue didn’t give me the dog that killed a person because they refuse to use all tools and methods!
Actual reason: It is fundamentally irresponsible to rehome a dog with a kill history.
Dog trainer who thinks they’re the answers to all problems: that owner should not have put their dog to sleep, they should have come to ME and let me experiment with my tools!
Actual reason: the owner has been on a knifes edge of management with no room for error for four years across a huge range of dog trainers and hasn’t had visitors over for the entirety of it and cannot go anywhere because they cannot safely board this dog and at some point for their own mental health and safety they need to make a decision between having a dog PTS or continuing to experiment with hypervigilant environment management and different methods and approaches in hopes of finding the one that “works”.
There comes a point where not all dogs can be saved (this article is about rescues, but replace ‘rescue’ with ‘owner’ and it still applies).
Dog trainers step the fuck up and stop co-opting behavioural euthanasia cases as bragging rights and start focussing on helping owners out, even when the safest solution may be the PTS solution.
i wish most dogs had this much rear end awareness
In January this year, I attended Dr. Amy Cook’s PLAY WAY seminar at Pasadena Humane Society.
The seminar was about “social play” as a tool for rehabilitating reactive/stressed/fearful dogs. “Social Play” has been defined as something different from playing with toys (tug, fetch, etc) It is literally “goofing around” with your dog in a way that they like that makes them happy. Body language responsiveness, movement and timing is everything.
Not only did we get to see some inspiring and entertaining video footage of Amy Cook playing with her dogs, some attendees had also brought their own dogs to play with, while Amy offered coaching.
It was an amazing and delightful experience and I couldn’t wait to get home to play with my 15 year old Boogie who hasn’t been interested in Tug or Fetch in over a year due to his vision loss.
The Play Way class was like learning a new language, a new vocabulary. You had to be there.
As far as I know, there is no other information out there on how to play with your dog without using toys, and until this seminar, I had no idea that dogs LAUGH. (I don’t think Boogie has ever laughed)
This infographic cannot possibly do justice to all the material covered in the Play Way seminar, which also focused on play as “therapy”. For now, I hope this is enough to pique everyone’s interest in the subject. This is another way to be mindful and respectful of our dog’s body language and of our own body language. I still have a lot to learn!
- Lili
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Amy Cook’s online Play Way class
Doggie Language - my new forthcoming book will have more art on dog body language.
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Enrichment
Reinforcement is defined by its effect on behavior, not by our intent.
Reinforcement, by definition, is a consequence which increases or maintains a behavior. If I am trying to reinforce my dog, but he doesn’t like what I’m doing to him, I am not going to see that behavior increase. I might even see it start to crash; some of the things we intend to be reinforcement are actually punishment to our dogs. As you try out different potential reinforcers - praise, petting, different treats, play, access to other dogs, etc - watch your dog’s behavior. Is the behavior you are trying to reinforce getting stronger? Or is it getting weaker?
I see this over and over with my clients petting their dogs. They really want petting to be reinforcing for their dog. Their dog gets something right, something they’ve been struggling with, and they are enthusiastic in their reward. They give a treat, and then they immediately follow it up with a two-handed full-body rubdown, or a vigorous ear rub. And I watch these dogs in the next few trials and I notice that the behavior isn’t getting any stronger. In many cases, it even gets weaker; the dog is more and more reluctant to perform the behavior. Some dogs even start to lose their motivation to eat; they stop taking treats, or take them reluctantly, spitting them out several times before finally eating it. For these dogs, the intense petting is so aversive that it is not only acting as a punisher, crashing their rate of responding, it’s also building a negative emotional response to treats! Because their treats are being immediately followed by rough petting, over and over, they are learning that food presented in this context is a predictor of awful things, and the food itself is becoming aversive!
No matter how much we might want it to be, petting is not a reinforcer for all dogs. Praise isn’t a reinforcer for all dogs. Play isn’t a reinforcer for all dogs. Every dog is an individual, and your first task as their trainer is figuring out what motivates them. If you don’t take the time to answer this question first, you’ll find your training crawling along at a snail’s pace or even heading backwards!
To determine what your dog will work for, test out different reinforcers with a behavior your dog already knows. Before you start training something new with a novel reinforcer, test it out by practicing ten reps of sit, down, high five, or whatever your dog is fluent at. Watch their response and see if it changes from rep one to rep ten. Are they seeming more enthusiastic? Is their response to your cue getting faster, more reliable, or more energetic? Or do they seem to be losing steam? Are they slowing down their responses, thinking it over before doing as you asked, weighing whether the “reward” is worth the effort? Do they stop responding all together by the tenth trial?
If the stimulus you are trying to use as a reinforcer is, in fact, a reinforcer, they will perform at least as well on their tenth repetition as they do on their first. If it’s a good reinforcer, you will actually be seeing better responses. Faster sits, speedier recalls, etc. If your dog’s performance is fading away by the end of your little training session, on the other hand, they don’t find what you are using reinforcing. Try something else!
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Though may I also make an addendum?
Reinforcers can also be context-specific, so just because something tests well, doesn’t mean it will work how you are currently using it. See the Panic brothers and discs. Biting discs is usually one of their favoured rewards *except* when we flyball a disc’s value drops down to nothing because that’s not The Game, and trying to force a bite changes The Game which is bad.
Great explanation for why I don’t touch Callie at all when we’re training and why Essie’s big reward is a back scratch while she hugs me and licks my face.
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If you can’t be out on the streets, the next best thing is to support black businesses! Here’s a post with links to multiple black pet businesses. Buy from them instead of your local corporation. (these are US based businesses, but many ship overseas as well!)
Ava’s Pet Palace - organic, healthy treats!
The Bark Shoppe - general dog supplies (including a gorgeous pride month box that I have coming in the mail for my pups! pictured below)
Beaux and Paws - handmade bowties! (they’re stunning!)
Enjoy-A-Bowl - created by a veterinarian, awesome for picky eaters!
House Dogge - sustainable, handmade dog accessories and toys! many can be personalized as well (their Licorice Grey Merino Wool Binky Tug Toy is shown below)
Little L’s Artisan Dog Treats - alternative to mass produced dog jerkies on the market, organic jerky and other meat treats (my pups adore them!)
Nova West Supplies - all natural body care, for humans and pets!
Pet Plate - all natural, ready to eat meals shipped directly to your door! made with human grade ingredients and cooked in a USDA facility
Scotch and Tea - handmade matching masks and dog collars, as well as much more (their pride collar is shown below)
Sir Dogwood - leashes and harnesses, dog clothes and beds, this place has got it all!
These are just a few of the many black owned businesses that you can support during this time, and long after!
Reminder to please not bring your dog to protests! They can turn violent in the blink of an eye, even if you didn’t think there were going to be police there!
dog ppl need to think about the fact that they support breeders willing to sell their dogs to cops. i get everyone has a hard on for working dogs but that’s just unnacceptable and disgusting. if youre dying for a working line gsd or something, but you’re willing to give money to someone to is directly supporting cops and k9 units, think LONG AND FUCKING HARD about that
I am often the only person of colour at a dog show, or trial. Have you ever wondered what that’s like?
It’s a short blog - here’s the text for your dashboard, but please take the time to go comment your support on the OP’s blog.
There has been some conflict recently in a dog training community that I consider myself a part of. I know I know, what else is new, right?
This time, the source of this conflict was a seemingly innocuous question. Someone observed that the dog training/dog sports community appeared to skew towards white women, and wondered how we might make the community more welcome to Black, Indigenous, People of Color (BIPOC). Some of us were thrilled that this person bothered to ask this question. Others felt this community was not the place for this kind of discussion.
I have considered posting this response within that community but I have concerns about my voice getting lost in the mix. I also worry my comments will disappear as has happened with the original post asking this question.
At this time, I feel safer posting here on my own blog, so here are some ways you can support the BIPOC Dog Trainers and dog sport competitors in your life.
Listen to us: When we find the courage to tell you about our challenges. Sit down, and listen. We don’t need you solve our problems, we don’t need you to tell us it will be okay. We certainly don’t need you to change the subject because you are uncomfortable. We need you to bear witness to our pain.
Show up for us: We need you to show up for us and perform some of the emotional labour involved in combating racism. This means challenging racist beliefs, actions and policies when you see them. At home, at work, in the dog sport community, and in your professional organizations.
Increase Our Visibility: In order to feel welcome in a community, we need to know that we are not alone. How many people of color do you know in YOUR dog sport community? What are you doing to promote them or highlight their success? Increasing our visibility can be as simple as liking a business page and commenting on a post, or referring someone to a qualified BIPOC trainer in your area. It can be as large as recommending a BIPOC as a presenter at your next industry conference.
Increase our opportunities: Providing educational opportunities to BIPOC, provides a way to encourage us into your industry. You can do this on a small scale by offering a free or discounted class to a BIPOC. You can do this on a larger scale by offering professional training to BIPOC at a discounted rate.
Pay us: If someone has dedicated their time and energy to becoming qualified to provide you with a training or behavior service, we deserve to be paid for our work. Do not ask us for a discount, do not ask us for free behavior advice.
Blog post by Rotten Dog Blog on 3 June 2020
Heya! Ab the dog stuff, are sniffer dogs or non attack dogs also treated badly? I just don’t know a lot, or what sources to trust!
hi there. the primary issue is the way these dogs are used by the police to criminalize people of color in particular. we know that there is a massive, massive issue with handler-induced alerts in drug detection dogs – if the handler believes that the dog should alert to drugs in a particular location, the dog is more likely to alert whether or not there are actually drugs there. there was some great research on this a while back.
handler bias is a huge problem given that detection dog alerts can be used as probable cause for searches. we KNOW cops are biased against people of color. detection dogs cannot be an objective source of information in a racist criminal justice system.
there’s considerably more to be said about the criminalization of drugs in general, and the disproportionate arrest and conviction rates of people of color for drug-related offenses – which is an intentional outcome of “the war on drugs.”
all of this will always trump any animal welfare concerns for me.
this is a link to the research i mentioned above.
Framing conversations about police dogs around the fact that the dogs are abused will work for some people, specifically the bleeding hearts of the animal world who care more about animals than they do people, but a lot of people are going to fall back on anecdotal evidence. Their uncle is a cop and he treats his dog wonderfully. Their friends are K9 trainers and the dogs are treated wonderfully. Every dog from the local police station has a home when they retire. Any statistics you bring them outside of this won’t matter to them.
Aside from which, I think it’s disingenuous to frame this as a conversation of animal abuse when first and foremost it needs to be a conversation about state sanctioned violence. If you’re not okay with cops shooting people, or going up to them and repeatedly stabbing them, then you shouldn’t be okay with a dog ripping into someone. Do you understand the physical and mental trauma of being attacked by a dog? Do you understand the damage this does to a person? Do you know the history of dogs being used against people of color, particularly black people?
Like you do understand the very basic concept of racism and how cops violently uphold these racist systems? Right? Like where in the conversation are we losing people? Police dogs are a weapon. If you want to call them a working dog, fine, but understand what that work is. And this includes drug sniffing dogs. It doesn’t matter if dogs aren’t racist when the person commanding the dog is, when the system these dogs work for is. And I shouldn’t need to provide links because at this point in the conversation, you should already be asking and researching these questions on your own. Look at what is happening in America right now. Like, come on.