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[lifeafterpsychiatry]

"Clearly I wasn't talking about disabled people-" yeah part of the problem is that the existence of disabled people just isn't considered in your worldview like that's the problem we're criticizing not a get out of jail free card

[atelier-tamamoland]

sixpencee got less hate for straight-up admitting to owning a child slave than I do for saying children shouldn't be treated as property

[atelier-tamamoland]

like i'll say "parents should not be able to unilaterally override their child's consent" and some dipshit will see the word consent and the smoke from the hollowed-out crater that used to be their critical thinking skills will immediately coalesce into a message in my ask box calling me a pedo. no fucking hope for any of you

[atelier-tamamoland]

which I say, by the way, because one of my closest friends was able to be effectively disappeared off the face of the earth and sent into the woods to be sexually abused and tortured into being straight due to parents effectively owning their children as property. if you are a minor your consent simply does not actually matter - whether you get vaccinated, whether you get to go to school, whether people get to hug touch you, what you wear, how your hair is cut, what your hobbies are, whether you get to have friends, and yes, whether you want to be sent to a torture camp in the woods or not - your consent is entirely meaningless because your parents can simply override it, and there's fuckall you can do about it, because you aren't a person, you're just property. the family dog has more protections against being abused than children do

but! if you ever point this out you get called you a rapist

[autistic-af]

Source ~ Neurodivergent_Lou

Alt Text added to each image.

Note: these are different ways these can show up. They can also show up in a stereotypical way. If you've met one autistic, you've met one autistic.

[emma-o-yt]

Facts about involuntary psychiatric hold:

The United Nations recognises it as a form of torture.

It increases suicide risk by 191 times.

It increases the risk of dying from heart disease and stroke by 3.5 times (no shit on that one, forcing extremely high doses of heavy drugs on someone without even titrating it does that)

45% of patients in psych wards have experienced sexual violence during an admission.

You are a shitty person if you try to get someone involuntarily committed.

[alloftimeandspaceisours]

I'm not doubting you, but do you have sources for this? It's vital to include reliable sources for things.

[emma-o-yt]

Ask and you shall receive.

This is the report that states involuntary hold is a form of torture. Some specific lines:

-For example, the mandate has held that the discriminatory character of forced psychiatric interventions, when committed against persons with psychosocial disabilities, satisfies both intent and purpose required under the article 1 of the Convention against Torture

-The mandate has previously declared that there can be no therapeutic justification for the use of solitary confinement and prolonged restraint of persons with disabilities in psychiatric institutions; both prolonged seclusion and restraint may constitute torture and ill-treatment

-Moreover, any restraint on people with mental disabilities for even a short period of time may constitute torture and ill-treatment.// The environment of patient powerlessness and abusive treatment of persons with disabilities in which restraint and seclusion is used can lead to other non-consensual treatment, such as forced medication and electroshock procedures.

-Both this mandate and United Nations treaty bodies have established that involuntary treatment and other psychiatric interventions in health-care facilities are forms of torture and ill-treatment. Forced interventions, often wrongfully justified by theories of incapacity and therapeutic necessity inconsistent with the Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities, are legitimized under national laws, and may enjoy wide public support as being in the alleged “best interest” of the person concerned. Nevertheless, to the extent that they inflict severe pain and suffering, they violate the absolute prohibition of torture and cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment

-Moreover, the effects of institutionalization of individuals who do not meet appropriate admission criteria, as is the case in most institutions which are off the monitoring radar and lack appropriate admission oversight, raise particular questions under prohibition of torture and ill-treatment.

The term increase for suicide risk is a bit misleading but inpatient care increases your risk of death, this study goes over it. The lifetime rate was unfortunately not included but in the first 3 months after release, suicide was 191 times higher than the general population. This is significant because for people with mental illnesses, their rate of suicide is 5-30 times higher than the general population. 191 times is insane even if it is 3 months. The research luckily includes a comparison between people with severe mental illness who had not received inpatient care and those who hadn't. It's 12 times higher in the first 3 months and remains high even up to 5 years.

This study goes over suicides in psych wards themselves. 50 times higher than the general population

This goes over the increased risk of heart disease and stroke.

This goes over sexual abuse and violence in general in inpatient sentences.

As for the last one...come on now.

[snapcracklepop-myjoints]

"what if that homeless person you gave money to spends it on alcohol ???😱" first of all alcohol withdrawal kills people and if theyre not in a safe place to detox (unlikely if they dont have a fucking home) this is literally harm reduction. second of all if they are not in danger of withdrawal thats fine too because im not a little baby bitch who thinks people have to earn the right to have a fucking drink by passing the "must be this tall housed to ride" test. third of all i would have spent it on alcohol also. so now what.

[wholeheartedsuggestions]

we are all “difficult” sometimes. that doesn’t make you a problem or a burden or an inconvenience. it makes you a human being with feelings.

[bebsi-cola]

smth people seem to struggle with in regards to disability is treating inability as a sliding scale.

what i mean is that people seem to only understand a dichotomy of absolutely cannot under any circumstances real or fantastical, or can do.

a lot of people have mentioned how this undermines their difficulties because people are working under a paradigm where your hypothetical ability to do something, even at great cost, means you always can do it if you try and not doing something means you simply haven't tried hard enough.

it also means that if someone finally decides you can't do something, they never give you the opportunity to do anything. they don't expect you to achieve anything, or decide anything and actively take away your autonomy without going through the work of finding where the edges of your ability lie.

[codeine-white]

I get that it's disheartening to think about and that you wish the person weren't in such a position but reacting to someone who has a Chronic, as in.. incurable.., illness with "I'm sure it'll get better!!" or downright being surprised each time the very Chronic illness is indeed chronic and doesn't go away, is not helpful. That's just insensitive. You are not the one who should be coping here. You are not in the position to be in denial. That's just smearing it in the person's face.

I know I will never get better, I know I will likely be in debilitating pain for the rest of my life and that is something I have to live it, I shouldn't be dealing with grieving all over again just because I have to explain that No, I Will Not Get Better and that Yes, I Am Still Ill, to someone who's healthy and so blissfully ignorant. I should not be comforting you in this situation.

[storm-of-feathers]

a childs most likely abuser is their family or a family friend so no i dont think isolating children to only their families, including online, will protect them ever.

[rarestsparkle]

You are under no obligation to remain the same person you were a year ago, a month ago, or even a day ago. You are here to create yourself, continuously.

[depsidase]

[donniehaspronouns]

also (and I feel the need to add this to every AI post) it is incredibly bad for our environment and is actively stealing water away from people’s homes.

you cannot argue away the environmental damage.

[depsidase]

no you are right for adding it to every ai post as it doesn't get talked about nearly enough. it is causing the world to blow past its emissions reduction targets. the positive climate and environmental gains of adding renewable energy production to energy grids is, in some places, being lost to these hyperscale data centres sucking up the juice and preventing fossil fuel generators from being decommissioned as planned. of course this is also driving up people's electric bills.

and its water use is a much bigger deal than people realize within the broader context of climate change and how its expected that glaciers (one of the main sources of freshwater on the planet) will be basically gone by 2100 which will cause insane damage to ecosystems, agriculture, economies, and drinking water across entire continents. (and this wasted water use doesn't just apply to data centres necessarily either. the industrial use of freshwater is something that needs to be seriously considered and heavily regulated.)

we're being incredibly stupid. and while it would be bad no matter what, we could at least have an excuse if we were using this energy and water for something actually useful or helpful but this generative ai shit is no different than lighting vital resources on fire just to watch them burn. its short-sighted and suicidal.

this is why we need economic democracy! because otherwise fascist billionaires completely disconnected from reality with fucked up dystopian ideologies and backwards belief systems control the use of the world's resources.

[uncanny-tranny]

Part of harm reduction is recognizing that abstinence or sobriety, whenever these terms are applicable, is not the inherent goal for so many people. Forcing complete abstinence or sobriety can absolutely be detrimental, which is why we must not idealize either one or force it on people. It should be an option, yes, but that does not mean it is the only option or the only option worth pursuing.

[wizardarchetypes]

(wakes up still angry about nurses & doctors throwing around the term ‘drug seeking’ at ppl with chronic pain) and another thing ☝️ people with history of substance use disorders also deserve pain management. substance use disorder is a disability & denying pain management to addicts is ableism. addiction and chronic pain often overlap. if you have chronic pain but are not an addict you need to understand that trying to prove to medical professionals that you’re not an addict will get you nowhere bc they’ll decide you ‘seem like one’ arbitrarily based on their unchecked biases. instead we need to fight for a system that treats addicts with humanity and as deserving of pain management & care. if addicts weren’t so medically marginalized, no one else would be mistreated for being mistaken for an addict.

[strawberry-crocodile]

ultimately the best way to prevent abuse is to organize society in such a way that everyone's needs are met wothout having to rely on a parent or employer or boyfriend or any one individual. obviously wont stop, like, manipulation or so on, but the ability to dangle basic needs over someone's head is one of the most powerful and consistant tools of abuse out there. if someone is able to just leave, and know that they will have access to food and shelter and clean water and education, that will enable so, so mamy victims of abuse to do just that.

[identitty-dickruption]

choosing to allocate spoons to hanging out and having a good time at the cost of perfectly completing all your work is not a failing it is in fact an act of survival. “too sick to work = too sick to play” is in fact ableist bullshit that you don’t have to buy into. and the fact that leisure time is treated like a privilege is a fucking travesty

[equalperson]

i think we should always take predominant sexes and races for psychiatric disabilities into question.

are men really more likely to be antisocial or narcissistic, or are women just overlooked because ASPD/NPD are seen as too "aggressive" for them?

are women really more likely to be borderline or histrionic, or are they just seen as so "hysterical" that they have to be feminine?

are black people more likely to have schizophrenia or ODD, or are labels of "psychosis" and "defiance" simply used to further dismiss, oppress, and imprison BIPOC?

are white people more likely to have autism and ADHD, or are doctors just more willing to accept that white children are disabled and not just "bad?"

oppressive biases are everywhere in psychiatry. never take psychiatric demographics at face value.

[bobbi-bee]

Something I think people who don’t live with chronic illness don’t understand is that there is a big difference between resting to get better and resting to avoid getting worse.

[codeine-white]

Something I think people who don't live with chronic illness also don't understand is that when you're healthy and get sick, you are asked to rest. But when that problem remains and you're in pain for years, you're supposed to function like the healthy population.