Sproingus Hate Account

I’m just here to keep an eye on my basement gremlins and run my mouth

[mawofthemagnetar]

What do you mean “chat” is now referring to ChatGPT and not twitch chat? What? What? What the fuck? No?

When I address chat I am speaking to a presumed Greek chorus of real human people shitposting on their lunch break, not a machine that devours lakes to covert electricity into slop.

[beebeebuzzbuzzz]

I'm a step mom to two lil dudes, but in our family I serve as the primary parent. Their Mum gave me permission to celebrate Mother's Day this year.

I wasn't expecting the school crafts or anything really from the lil dude's themselves. I was wrong. They have made a bunch of art for me and my oldest picked out some of his best pokemon cards to give me as well, but that's not the best part.

The best part is I know all of this because when I was going through school mail bags I pulled out some of the Mother's Day crafts and handed them to my partner saying they need to be in the bag to go to Mom's house. This prompted oldest to remember Mother's Day and decide that to day is my Mother's Day.

So apparently sometimes Mother's Day is a Wednesday evening with two lil guys who did not forget about me, and who self elected to celebrate my role in their lives, and I wouldn't have it any other way.

[beebeebuzzbuzzz]

Thanks for telling a fellow DV survivor asking you if women should have to spare spaces with men to shut up, and complaining that words are being put in your mouth when people explain the logical end game of allowing any male who says he’s a woman into women’s single-sex spaces. Trans people SHOULD have their own trans spaces, but they want existing same-sex ones instead.

Other women are calling you a condescending idiot and being highly concerned about you working with other vulnerable women for good reason, not just to be mean. Marmorada was out of pocket for saying you should die, but women on the internet calling you stupid for saying something extremely stupid and offensive on the internet (which your original post was) is a good thing, actually. Your justifiable righteous anger toward abusers is being wasted defending a movement full of them, using their trans status to keep abusing with impunity.

Would you make a female rape survivor share a shelter with a male who identifies as a woman, yes or no? Would you make a female rape survivor call her male rapist by female pronouns while testifying about what he did to her? If no, great. You’re not completely stupid or evil. If yes…

I'm not going to respond to most of this, but I am going to respond to the things at the bottom and reiterate a few things I have publicly stated that I'm assuming you read given your comprehensive knowledge of the comments made that you likely intentionally neglected to include.

First of all, I have repetitively stated that I believe in women's only spaces, and I in fact went to a women's only post secondary institution, so no, I do not feel a female rape survivor should be forced to share shelter space with a trans individual. I think that vulnerable women should be given every available opportunity to heal exclusively around other women if that is what they need to feel safe, and I feel that we should have similar but distinct options for the trans community as well. I don't have complete opposition to the idea of trans women existing in shelters with cisgendered women, as long as there are more than enough other spaces also available for those not comfortable with that.

The question. regarding forcing a female victim to use preferred pronouns for her rapist is a lot more complex and nuanced, and this response is likely to be influenced by the laws of my country, which is viewed as one of the "safest" countries for trans people in terms of respecting pronouns and gender identity and access to gender affirming procedures.

In short, no I would not force a female survivor to identify her abuser by their preferred pronouns, however, depending on circumstances I would probably recommend doing so for a few reasons. I'm going to operate under the framework that the abuser had already transitioned at the time they attacked our Jane Doe.

Reason 1, It could really cause some issues for Jane Doe whilst she is testifying. Testifying against my rapist was one of the hardest things I have ever done, and TV does not showcase that process in any way that reflects reality. Basically, you get on the stand and you are prompted by the prosecution to tell your story. They may ask some clarifying questions, and then the defence takes over. The defence will then proceed to spend basically as long as they want attempting to poke holes in your story, confuse you, and focus on really minute details. Anything that can help their client is on the table. With this in mind, and basing this on my experience, the defence would absolutely go in on the pronouns to try and make our victim, Jane Doe, look bad. They may even attempt to have the judge allow them to treat Jane Doe as a hostile witness. For this reason I would personally advise Jane Doe to use their abuser's proper pronouns just to avoid this circus, and to protect their mental health. Simply, it could be far more damaging for Jane Doe to go through that than to simply use the designated pronouns. This answer is rooted in the reality of the situation, not the hypothetical, please treat it as such.

EDIT: I knew I would forget something. This also opens the door for defence to accuse victim of filing a false report based on the gender identity of her attacker. Now let me be clear, I'm not saying that is in any way okay or reasonable, I'm just saying a defence attorney might do it, and that that would be incredibly damaging to the victim. This is a great example of the nuance of the situation and why this isn't a simple yes or no question.

Reason 2, this also adds a level of nuance to the crime itself, that could be lost to the court if not properly acknowledged. The optics are fundamentally different, especially if our abuser comes to court presenting as their preferred gender. This goes hand in hand with the above, and could also lead to the optics shifting to the abuser appearing victimized instead of our Jane Doe. Additionally, the optics shift because there's an argument that Jane Doe let her guard down around someone she perceived to be a woman, which really does create a shift in the perceived severity of the crime. It's beneficial to Jane Doe's case to have her use the preferred pronouns in this way.

Reason 3, statistics. If we boil this down to simply assigned gender at birth we can lose a statistic. We don't have great statistics on the rates of trans women committing violent crimes, to my knowledge, but I'm disabled and haven't really been keeping up with studies coming out over the last few years, so I'm happy to be corrected. Either way, this incident is statistically significant in a manner that actually benefits your position, and that should be taken into account.

Finally, regardless of gender identity of the attacker, Jane Doe was assaulted, and she deserves to have her crime treated the same as everyone else, regardless of the assigned sex at birth or gender identity as her attacker. In the same vein, our attacker committed a violent crime, and should be punished regardless of their assigned sex at birth or gender identity. We should be treating all violent crime in the same manner (not self defence before anyone says it, and you already knew that wasn't what I meant), and not let any sort of gender debate influence that. Humans of all sexes and gender identities commit violent crimes, and their assigned sex or gender identity should not really be part of the conversation, and we shouldn't make this a big issue during court proceedings because, as stated above, their can be some real harm to the victim in doing so.

All that being said, If a victim was really hell bent on not respecting the gender identity of their attacker, and was informed of the above, I would not force them to use preferred pronouns.

[throughkaliyuga]

another day, another therapoid trying to masquerade themselves as part of the anti-psych movement, when in reality they're anything but. dogwalking this fool @beebeebuzzbuzzz as promised below the cut.

"I think we were thinking of two different things and wires got crossed. When I said therapy I did NOT mean the psych ward (I’m going to address that in a sec). I was primarily talking about private psychotherapy, either through a psychotherapist you pay directly or through a government funded program, or a privately funded program"

ohhhh i see, that makes sense. you're not talking about the inconvenient and barbaric aspects about the psych industry, you want to pretend those don't even exist in the first place so that you never have to come to terms with them. no, the psych ward is just for us peasants. when you talk about therapy, you're only talking about the prim, proper therapists, the 1% of therapists who actually feel like doing their job because they're not in it to actually help anyone, they're only looking to serve whoevers' insurance can provide them the most income.

you completely gloss over that the quality of care you receive will depend wildly on what country you live in, and also on what type of insurance you have. you instead group all of these into the same category of "private psychotherapy" when the experiences are VASTLY different from one another.

you want to know what happens to you when you're on a government funded health insurance program, like for example medicare/medicaid in the US? your shrinks literally do not give a single solitary fuck about you or your wellbeing whatsoever. they have absolutely no financial incentive to actually do their job, because you're simply not generating enough profit for them as a client for them to do so.

instead, they will tell you that your case is "too advanced", and that they need to refer you to someone else, but that will take months, maybe years, and the whole time they'll just keep taking your money anyways while telling you about all the therapy options they wish they could do with you, but they're just "not qualified enough" despite supposedly having years of schooling and experience under their belt.

"Okay, so I don’t support the psych system. I’ve somehow managed to dodge admission, although I’ve come close a plethora of times. I do not agree with locking people in an effective prison (I also don’t agree with locking most people in real prisons), especially not literal children. Total institutions are so damaging and are intended to create repeat offenders/patients."

we can at least agree there. however, stop masquerading yourself as anti-psych just because you don't support the most unethical parts of the psych industry. you still are very much pro psych, and you still very much think that this antisocial pseudoscience masquerading as social science somehow has legitimate value in this world. this is where you and i differ greatly in opinion.

"The therapy that saved my life is also what has helped me dodge admits. I’m very privileged to be able to work with a $130/hour therapist who has actually been able to treat me, and THAT is what I was referencing, not psych wards or even outpatient programming"

sweetie, simply admitting you are privileged is not enough when you refuse to actually reflect on that privilege. the fact that you shell out $130 every week just to have the "privilege" to talk to some rando with a degree about your feefees is nothing more than proof you are a sucker for snake oil peddling. i guarantee you, your therapist does absolutely nothing for you that you couldn't do for yourself if you simply put your mind to it. in fact, seeing a therapist and having them slap some DSM labels on you can actually be detrimental to your mental wellbeing, because you're basically allowing them to confine you in a prison of your own mind. you start to see yourself as nothing but your disorders, they become your entire personality, all you ever talk about.

therapy dulls your personality, whether you're actively benefiting from it or not. when you're not benefiting from it because you're just using your diagnoses as an excuse to never work towards self improvement because you "can't" do it, you're insufferable to be around, constantly making your problems everyone else's problem. when you are "benefiting" from it, all you can ever talk about is your complete and utter worship for therapy, how therapy is the most important thing in the world to you, how it saved your life, you dedicate every second of every day to feeding some middle class white woman's savior complex which she worked so hard in college (with the help of mommy and daddy's trust fund of course) to have fed. again, you are insufferable to be around.

"I also don’t believe in incarceration, as referenced above, and I’d be happy to go back and forth with you over this"

then you should stop supporting everything about the psych industry because incarceration is literally its bread and butter. if not physical incarceration, then mental and emotional incarceration. "I am so sorry that you have had these experiences, but please know a large part of why I got that criminal justice degree was so I had the credentials to start helping dismantle these horrible systems in a professional/legal/political capacity"

yet another stupid birdbrain pursuing a degree to try and work in a broken system to "fix it from the inside". not realizing that if you actually do anything that would actually properly disrupt these horrible systems, you will lose your job and be blacklisted immediately. JFL. TL;DR:

[beebeebuzzbuzzz]

I'm gonna respond to this one actually

First, my messages were not meant to be comprehensive. I also did not intend for them to be for public consumption. I repetitively said if people wanted to continue with this then they can take it to the dms, and that's what I mistakenly thought we were doing. These messages were intended as a starting off point.

I hadn't gotten to the barbaric aspects because I was trying to make sure we were on the same page before going deeper with this. The psych ward is not for you "peasants", the psych ward shouldn't be for anyone in its current state. While I have not personally been to the psych ward I know many people who have, including one of my best friends and my partner. I'm quite taken aback by this horrific take that is in no way reflected in anything I have said.

Yes when I made a comment that therapy saved my life, a comment you started off your initial ask to me by referencing, I am referring to the therapists who actually do their job and treat their clients, as my therapist does for me. I also went on to clarify that I am quite privileged to be in a position wherein I am able to afford my $130/hour therapist.

sweetie, simply admitting you are privileged is not enough when you refuse to actually reflect on that privilege. the fact that you shell out $130 every week just to have the "privilege" to talk to some rando with a degree about your feefees is nothing more than proof you are a sucker for snake oil peddling. i guarantee you, your therapist does absolutely nothing for you that you couldn't do for yourself if you simply put your mind to it.

So first of all, I do therapy biweekly, not weekly, not that that's your business. I also don't pay my therapist, my mother does. Kind of a you break it you buy it scenario. Also not that this is your business, but I'm actively doing trauma work with my therapist, not talking about my "feefees", as you so obnoxiously put it. I guarantee you my therapist has been invaluable to my recovery and transition from victimhood to survivor hood post DV and SA, which is why I continue to go to therapy.

in fact, seeing a therapist and having them slap some DSM labels on you can actually be detrimental to your mental wellbeing, because you're basically allowing them to confine you in a prison of your own mind. you start to see yourself as nothing but your disorders, they become your entire personality, all you ever talk about.

In my country psychotherapists are not allowed to diagnose clients. We aren't rocking with the DSM here, we are doing actual work to heal and grow. My therapist has actually helped me break free from the prison of my disorders, both mental and physical, and live a life not defined by them. This is something we could have gone into had you not been chomping at the bit to give your followers a fun new person to attack after publicly "dog walking" them because you're too blinded by your quest to be mean spirted that you did not confirm any of these things before making this post, but that's okay, we can go back and forth this way.

therapy dulls your personality, whether you're actively benefiting from it or not. when you're not benefiting from it because you're just using your diagnoses as an excuse to never work towards self improvement because you "can't" do it, you're insufferable to be around, constantly making your problems everyone else's problem. when you are "benefiting" from it, all you can ever talk about is your complete and utter worship for therapy, how therapy is the most important thing in the world to you, how it saved your life, you dedicate every second of every day to feeding some middle class white woman's savior complex which she worked so hard in college (with the help of mommy and daddy's trust fund of course) to have fed. again, you are insufferable to be around.

This is crazy work honestly. You don't know me. You don't interact with me. We are not friends. you are making absolutely wild assumptions based on messages that were responding specifically to the ask you sent me, that I will be attaching to this thread.

Therapy absolutely restored my personality, it didn't dull it. My biggest reason for being in therapy has nothing to do with the letters of the alphabet doctors like to put in my file. I started therapy while actively in the court process testifying against my rapist, and continued through the aftermath. Sure, at this point sometimes those diagnoses are relevant, but only if my meds are off and I appear to be manic, otherwise we're continuing with the trauma work.

I do not "only" talk about my "worship" for therapy. In real life I have many wide and varied interests. I spend a LOT of time discussing sociology, the basis of my criminal justice degree. I also like talking about retro media and media preservation, and I have a pretty substantial retro media collection. I'm happy to talk to you in depth about that if you'd like, and all of my other interests I'm not going to list out right now.

I am not middle class. Currently I'm actually on welfare because I'm incredibly physically disabled and can no longer work. I have been impoverished my entire life, which I can happily get my IRL friend who I follow on here to confirm. I did not have a trust fund. I was raised by a single mother with the help of my Grandparents and I paid for school myself by working and taking out loans and receiving grants. You do not know me and you do not know my finances, and it's gross that you are pretending you do.

You really can't speak to whether or not I'm insufferable to be around, random tumblr user, as you have never been around me to my knowledge. You know nothing about me, and I'm disturbed by you pretending you do, or worse, hiding behind your anonymity and talking to me as yourself, if we are friends. weirdo.

I don't feel like addressing the incarceration piece right now, but overall just know I don't support total institutions of any kind. Also I got my degree to get a better understanding of the system, not exactly to dismantle from the inside out.

[beebeebuzzbuzzz]

And here’s the original message I was responding to! Clearly it was just bit to give you the opportunity to flex your morally superior muscles to your followers, and I shouldn’t have responded in good faith.

[throughkaliyuga]

another day, another therapoid trying to masquerade themselves as part of the anti-psych movement, when in reality they're anything but. dogwalking this fool @beebeebuzzbuzzz as promised below the cut.

"I think we were thinking of two different things and wires got crossed. When I said therapy I did NOT mean the psych ward (I’m going to address that in a sec). I was primarily talking about private psychotherapy, either through a psychotherapist you pay directly or through a government funded program, or a privately funded program"

ohhhh i see, that makes sense. you're not talking about the inconvenient and barbaric aspects about the psych industry, you want to pretend those don't even exist in the first place so that you never have to come to terms with them. no, the psych ward is just for us peasants. when you talk about therapy, you're only talking about the prim, proper therapists, the 1% of therapists who actually feel like doing their job because they're not in it to actually help anyone, they're only looking to serve whoevers' insurance can provide them the most income.

you completely gloss over that the quality of care you receive will depend wildly on what country you live in, and also on what type of insurance you have. you instead group all of these into the same category of "private psychotherapy" when the experiences are VASTLY different from one another.

you want to know what happens to you when you're on a government funded health insurance program, like for example medicare/medicaid in the US? your shrinks literally do not give a single solitary fuck about you or your wellbeing whatsoever. they have absolutely no financial incentive to actually do their job, because you're simply not generating enough profit for them as a client for them to do so.

instead, they will tell you that your case is "too advanced", and that they need to refer you to someone else, but that will take months, maybe years, and the whole time they'll just keep taking your money anyways while telling you about all the therapy options they wish they could do with you, but they're just "not qualified enough" despite supposedly having years of schooling and experience under their belt.

"Okay, so I don’t support the psych system. I’ve somehow managed to dodge admission, although I’ve come close a plethora of times. I do not agree with locking people in an effective prison (I also don’t agree with locking most people in real prisons), especially not literal children. Total institutions are so damaging and are intended to create repeat offenders/patients."

we can at least agree there. however, stop masquerading yourself as anti-psych just because you don't support the most unethical parts of the psych industry. you still are very much pro psych, and you still very much think that this antisocial pseudoscience masquerading as social science somehow has legitimate value in this world. this is where you and i differ greatly in opinion.

"The therapy that saved my life is also what has helped me dodge admits. I’m very privileged to be able to work with a $130/hour therapist who has actually been able to treat me, and THAT is what I was referencing, not psych wards or even outpatient programming"

sweetie, simply admitting you are privileged is not enough when you refuse to actually reflect on that privilege. the fact that you shell out $130 every week just to have the "privilege" to talk to some rando with a degree about your feefees is nothing more than proof you are a sucker for snake oil peddling. i guarantee you, your therapist does absolutely nothing for you that you couldn't do for yourself if you simply put your mind to it. in fact, seeing a therapist and having them slap some DSM labels on you can actually be detrimental to your mental wellbeing, because you're basically allowing them to confine you in a prison of your own mind. you start to see yourself as nothing but your disorders, they become your entire personality, all you ever talk about.

therapy dulls your personality, whether you're actively benefiting from it or not. when you're not benefiting from it because you're just using your diagnoses as an excuse to never work towards self improvement because you "can't" do it, you're insufferable to be around, constantly making your problems everyone else's problem. when you are "benefiting" from it, all you can ever talk about is your complete and utter worship for therapy, how therapy is the most important thing in the world to you, how it saved your life, you dedicate every second of every day to feeding some middle class white woman's savior complex which she worked so hard in college (with the help of mommy and daddy's trust fund of course) to have fed. again, you are insufferable to be around.

"I also don’t believe in incarceration, as referenced above, and I’d be happy to go back and forth with you over this"

then you should stop supporting everything about the psych industry because incarceration is literally its bread and butter. if not physical incarceration, then mental and emotional incarceration. "I am so sorry that you have had these experiences, but please know a large part of why I got that criminal justice degree was so I had the credentials to start helping dismantle these horrible systems in a professional/legal/political capacity"

yet another stupid birdbrain pursuing a degree to try and work in a broken system to "fix it from the inside". not realizing that if you actually do anything that would actually properly disrupt these horrible systems, you will lose your job and be blacklisted immediately. JFL. TL;DR:

[beebeebuzzbuzzz]

I'm gonna respond to this one actually

First, my messages were not meant to be comprehensive. I also did not intend for them to be for public consumption. I repetitively said if people wanted to continue with this then they can take it to the dms, and that's what I mistakenly thought we were doing. These messages were intended as a starting off point.

I hadn't gotten to the barbaric aspects because I was trying to make sure we were on the same page before going deeper with this. The psych ward is not for you "peasants", the psych ward shouldn't be for anyone in its current state. While I have not personally been to the psych ward I know many people who have, including one of my best friends and my partner. I'm quite taken aback by this horrific take that is in no way reflected in anything I have said.

Yes when I made a comment that therapy saved my life, a comment you started off your initial ask to me by referencing, I am referring to the therapists who actually do their job and treat their clients, as my therapist does for me. I also went on to clarify that I am quite privileged to be in a position wherein I am able to afford my $130/hour therapist.

sweetie, simply admitting you are privileged is not enough when you refuse to actually reflect on that privilege. the fact that you shell out $130 every week just to have the "privilege" to talk to some rando with a degree about your feefees is nothing more than proof you are a sucker for snake oil peddling. i guarantee you, your therapist does absolutely nothing for you that you couldn't do for yourself if you simply put your mind to it.

So first of all, I do therapy biweekly, not weekly, not that that's your business. I also don't pay my therapist, my mother does. Kind of a you break it you buy it scenario. Also not that this is your business, but I'm actively doing trauma work with my therapist, not talking about my "feefees", as you so obnoxiously put it. I guarantee you my therapist has been invaluable to my recovery and transition from victimhood to survivor hood post DV and SA, which is why I continue to go to therapy.

in fact, seeing a therapist and having them slap some DSM labels on you can actually be detrimental to your mental wellbeing, because you're basically allowing them to confine you in a prison of your own mind. you start to see yourself as nothing but your disorders, they become your entire personality, all you ever talk about.

In my country psychotherapists are not allowed to diagnose clients. We aren't rocking with the DSM here, we are doing actual work to heal and grow. My therapist has actually helped me break free from the prison of my disorders, both mental and physical, and live a life not defined by them. This is something we could have gone into had you not been chomping at the bit to give your followers a fun new person to attack after publicly "dog walking" them because you're too blinded by your quest to be mean spirted that you did not confirm any of these things before making this post, but that's okay, we can go back and forth this way.

therapy dulls your personality, whether you're actively benefiting from it or not. when you're not benefiting from it because you're just using your diagnoses as an excuse to never work towards self improvement because you "can't" do it, you're insufferable to be around, constantly making your problems everyone else's problem. when you are "benefiting" from it, all you can ever talk about is your complete and utter worship for therapy, how therapy is the most important thing in the world to you, how it saved your life, you dedicate every second of every day to feeding some middle class white woman's savior complex which she worked so hard in college (with the help of mommy and daddy's trust fund of course) to have fed. again, you are insufferable to be around.

This is crazy work honestly. You don't know me. You don't interact with me. We are not friends. you are making absolutely wild assumptions based on messages that were responding specifically to the ask you sent me, that I will be attaching to this thread.

Therapy absolutely restored my personality, it didn't dull it. My biggest reason for being in therapy has nothing to do with the letters of the alphabet doctors like to put in my file. I started therapy while actively in the court process testifying against my rapist, and continued through the aftermath. Sure, at this point sometimes those diagnoses are relevant, but only if my meds are off and I appear to be manic, otherwise we're continuing with the trauma work.

I do not "only" talk about my "worship" for therapy. In real life I have many wide and varied interests. I spend a LOT of time discussing sociology, the basis of my criminal justice degree. I also like talking about retro media and media preservation, and I have a pretty substantial retro media collection. I'm happy to talk to you in depth about that if you'd like, and all of my other interests I'm not going to list out right now.

I am not middle class. Currently I'm actually on welfare because I'm incredibly physically disabled and can no longer work. I have been impoverished my entire life, which I can happily get my IRL friend who I follow on here to confirm. I did not have a trust fund. I was raised by a single mother with the help of my Grandparents and I paid for school myself by working and taking out loans and receiving grants. You do not know me and you do not know my finances, and it's gross that you are pretending you do.

You really can't speak to whether or not I'm insufferable to be around, random tumblr user, as you have never been around me to my knowledge. You know nothing about me, and I'm disturbed by you pretending you do, or worse, hiding behind your anonymity and talking to me as yourself, if we are friends. weirdo.

I don't feel like addressing the incarceration piece right now, but overall just know I don't support total institutions of any kind. Also I got my degree to get a better understanding of the system, not exactly to dismantle from the inside out.

[beebeebuzzbuzzz]

What this has taught me is a lot of you actually very good points, but you cloak them in bullying and shaming people who son't know as much as you do and publicly rip them to shreds for fun because you have nothing better to do with your time. The reason one agrees with you isn't because you're inherently wrong, it's because you're inherently mean.

[beebeebuzzbuzzz]

Reblogs are off because I’m sick and tired and on top of that I’m sick and tired of y’all. Leaving the post up for now because I think SOME productive discussion did occur but this has been a lot and while I really didn’t want to do this it’s the right choice for me

[beebeebuzzbuzzz]

JK Rowling is an excellent example of why victims of sexual abuse need to be connected to therapeutic services as soon as humanly possible.

JK Rowling became radicalized directly because of her sexual assault and the fact that she hasn't processed it yet. She is putting all of that unprocessed trauma on trans people because she hasn't been able to process the fact that whaat happened to her was terrible because the person who hurt her was terrible, and now things have spiralled so wildly out of control that she genuinely believes the hatred she's spewing will save others from victimization, all while victimizing an entire group of people because she just has not worked through her trauma.

This is not a defence for her abysmal behaviour, but instead an observation of what can happen when victims are failed by the system.

[godlesssicklady]

The fact that you think women like JK Rowling who have experienced male violence and because of their personal experience recognize males as a class as the source of the problem with male violence... must have "unprocessed trauma" and need therapy because they don't subscribe to your gender beliefs and therefore still recognize men who claims to be "transwomen" as male is really pathetic to say the least.

[beebeebuzzbuzzz]

I am a woman like JK Rowling.

[godlesssicklady]

Uh-huh and? Like I already figured that you're like the equivalent of religious women who get pissed off at women who dare criticize your beliefs and the "good men" in your religious community.

But in this case: The "religious" is gender, more specifically transgenderism, and the "'good men' in your religious community" are men who claims to be "transwomen".

[beebeebuzzbuzzz]

You could not be more incorrect.

[godlesssicklady]

Oh so does that mean you don't have a problem with women like me and JK Rowling believing in that gender, including transgenderism, should have as much influence in law as religion should and such as female-only spaces like public bathrooms should be only use by people of the female sex and therefore not male people who clam to be "transwomen/transgirls" then?

[beebeebuzzbuzzz]

If I already responded to this I’m sorry

Tbh, I’ve actually been listening and learning from a lot of other people, but I wanted to respond to this one because I just think your argument here is kinda stupid

To reiterate, I think we should move to having a whole bunch of single stall genderless bathrooms instead of communal ones

Im caught up on the religious comparison here because so many people who advocate for what you advocate for are using religion to accomplish pushing laws through against this, so like how committed are you really to religion being divorced from law? Is that like an across the board thing or only when it’s inconvenient for you? I’d really love to know

[beebeebuzzbuzzz]

For everyone continuing to interact with my post:

I am a very tired disabled person and I simply lack the spoons to engage with you all right now. If you'd really like to debate with me I am more than happy to do that through DMs but it is unlikely that I will respond to comments and reblogs for at least the next few days. I'm leaving them open intentionally, but if you want a response you're going to have to message me directly for that.

[beebeebuzzbuzzz]

JK Rowling is an excellent example of why victims of sexual abuse need to be connected to therapeutic services as soon as humanly possible.

JK Rowling became radicalized directly because of her sexual assault and the fact that she hasn't processed it yet. She is putting all of that unprocessed trauma on trans people because she hasn't been able to process the fact that whaat happened to her was terrible because the person who hurt her was terrible, and now things have spiralled so wildly out of control that she genuinely believes the hatred she's spewing will save others from victimization, all while victimizing an entire group of people because she just has not worked through her trauma.

This is not a defence for her abysmal behaviour, but instead an observation of what can happen when victims are failed by the system.

[godlesssicklady]

The fact that you think women like JK Rowling who have experienced male violence and because of their personal experience recognize males as a class as the source of the problem with male violence... must have "unprocessed trauma" and need therapy because they don't subscribe to your gender beliefs and therefore still recognize men who claims to be "transwomen" as male is really pathetic to say the least.

[beebeebuzzbuzzz]

I am a woman like JK Rowling.

[godlesssicklady]

Uh-huh and? Like I already figured that you're like the equivalent of religious women who get pissed off at women who dare criticize your beliefs and the "good men" in your religious community.

But in this case: The "religious" is gender, more specifically transgenderism, and the "'good men' in your religious community" are men who claims to be "transwomen".

[beebeebuzzbuzzz]

You could not be more incorrect.

[godlesssicklady]

Oh so does that mean you don't have a problem with women like me and JK Rowling believing in that gender, including transgenderism, should have as much influence in law as religion should and such as female-only spaces like public bathrooms should be only use by people of the female sex and therefore not male people who clam to be "transwomen/transgirls" then?

[beebeebuzzbuzzz]

Oh amazing! The bathroom debate!

I believe we need to pivot away from communal bathrooms and towards single stall gender neutral ones! Partially because I have crazy GI issues and I think on a bad day you might prefer the trans woman next to you over me shitting my fucking brains out

[beebeebuzzbuzzz]

JK Rowling is an excellent example of why victims of sexual abuse need to be connected to therapeutic services as soon as humanly possible.

JK Rowling became radicalized directly because of her sexual assault and the fact that she hasn't processed it yet. She is putting all of that unprocessed trauma on trans people because she hasn't been able to process the fact that whaat happened to her was terrible because the person who hurt her was terrible, and now things have spiralled so wildly out of control that she genuinely believes the hatred she's spewing will save others from victimization, all while victimizing an entire group of people because she just has not worked through her trauma.

This is not a defence for her abysmal behaviour, but instead an observation of what can happen when victims are failed by the system.

[joannerowling]

You condescending prat, JK Rowling didn't "become radicalised because of her sexual assault". JK Rowling has never even spoken about being sexually assaulted; she disclosed that her first husband had been physically abusive (which he rather crudely confirmed). Her stance on trans ideology is that sex is real and matters. You don't need Trauma™ to see the kind of problems it can bring to let any male individual into a space reserved for women, just because he's persuaded himself that wearing a dress and getting off from it makes him a girl. All it takes is some logic, common sense, and actual empathy for women – three things that your faux sympathy post obviously lacks.

[beebeebuzzbuzzz]

JK Rowling reveals she is survivor of domestic abuse and sexual assault

Author reveals experiences in essay after facing criticism over her comments on trans issues

Actually she has! Maybe educate yourself before saying dumb shit!

I have empathy for all women, including trans women. I myself am a sexual assault survivor, to the point where my rapist was convicted of raping me, so I think I have a pretty good amount of sympathy to survivors of that as well

There’s room for trans women to exist non punitively AND still have spaces for AFAB individuals. We can accomplish both, and the idea that we can’t is fucking ridiculous.

[joannerowling]

This bozo telling me, tumblr user joannerowling, to educate myself about JK Rowling.

Okay, let's clarify the meaning of my words, since you didn't catch the subtext: JK Rowling has never spoken extensively about the matter of her being sexually assaulted ; unlike the matter of her being a survivor of domestic abuse, which basically everyone knew in the 2000s (she was rather open about having had a messy divorce and having had to literally flee a country to escape him). And in her 2020 essay, which your source is pulling from, JKR is clearly only comfortable with describing the effects of sexual assault when lumped with the domestic abuse. Here are her words:

I’ve been in the public eye now for over twenty years and have never talked publicly about being a domestic abuse and sexual assault survivor. This isn’t because I’m ashamed those things happened to me, but because they’re traumatic to revisit and remember. I also feel protective of my daughter from my first marriage. I didn’t want to claim sole ownership of a story that belongs to her, too. However, a short while ago, I asked her how she’d feel if I were publicly honest about that part of my life, and she encouraged me to go ahead. […] The scars left by violence and sexual assault don’t disappear, no matter how loved you are, and no matter how much money you’ve made. My perennial jumpiness is a family joke – and even I know it’s funny – but I pray my daughters never have the same reasons I do for hating sudden loud noises, or finding people behind me when I haven’t heard them approaching. If you could come inside my head and understand what I feel when I read about a trans woman dying at the hands of a violent man, you’d find solidarity and kinship.

So, you've taken this notoriously private woman's obviously painful and reluctant (forced out by circumstances) disclosure of her past; singled out the sexual aspect of the domestic violence she endured that she won't get into details about; and instead of actually engaging with her words, you're using whatever simplified version the Guardian chewed up to suggest that the event turned her crazy, ie "radicalised" her into having hysterical nonsensical hatred for trans women to better cope or whatever the fuck, and "that is why victims should get helped". 🙏 Bless, what a saintly person you are!

Cut the crap already. Do you honestly think that JK Rowling, a freaking billionaire, doesn't have the means to consult a top notch therapist to "process a trauma"? A trauma that you apparently "processed" (like it's what, a can of food?) perfectly, since you hold the Correct Opinion™.

I don't believe for a second that you have sympathy for JKR, although i'm sure you tell yourself that you do. Otherwise you'd read what she actually has to say, instead of playing armchair therapist on tumblr dot com.

[beebeebuzzbuzzz]

So if you actually read my post you would notice that I said victims need to be connected to services as soon as humanly possible. Absolutely JKR is more than capable of consulting the best practitioners in the world now, but at the time of the events she was not.

This delay often leads the victim to experience retraumatization when they are connected to services later, as they have to go back and dig up these horrible events they have started to move on from, and that is a truly terrible process that is well documented and that I can personally attest to

As for your opinion on whether or not I feel sympathy for JKR, I don't actually give a shit about your opinion, random stranger on the internet who knows me from all of two posts. Your perception does not change my reality, and I do feel immense sympathy for her as someone who has experienced similar events in my own life, which directly informed my original post.

Additionally, "processing" is therapeutic language, which clearly you are not aware I'd assume as a result of not experiencing the events and experiences you're poorly explaining to someone who has. I also have not, in fact, processed these events as of yet, I'm still working on that in therapy, not that that's any of your fucking business.

I am impressed by your audacity in bullying a survivor of the things you claim to be protecting others from by blocking people from simply going to the fucking bathroom, but I guess that's par for the course with you people.

[joannerowling]

Still not willing to address the point, are you?

How the hell would you know that JKR didn't get connected "in time" to not develop the "obviously just a trauma response" Very Bad Opinions (like "women need single sex spaces for when they're vulnerable") she holds now, like some kind of cancer? Answer: you don't.

Your perception does not change my reality […] I do feel immense sympathy for her

As i said, i'm sure you think so. I don't care that you don't care what i think, i'm not doing this for you ; i'm doing this because i think it's a public service to point out the bull contained in your post for the benefit of everyone who will read us.

Additionally, "processing" is therapeutic language

Which is why it's so fun to make fun of, because you are not a therapist. You are a random individual who has gone through shit like many individuals, and are using your experience as a license to diagnose JKR with hysterical woman syndrome because she disagrees with you, and you think the fact that you were a victim yourself absolves you of the inherent misogyny in doing that.

clearly you are not aware I'd assume as a result of not experiencing the events and experiences you're poorly explaining to someone who has

The entire point of this interraction is for me to point that you have a problem with "assuming" what others feel or don't feel, have gone through or have not, and how they experience things. A therapist might call that "projecting". After all, i share JK Rowling's opinions ; how do you know it's not because i'm coping with my trauma?

I am impressed by your audacity in bullying a survivor

I have been bombarded with messages such as "rape is good for you" and "you need a bullet in the head" for two months, as has every slightly known radical feminist on this site. I can assure you that me interracting with your tagged post without treating you with kiddie gloves is not bullying.

[marmorada]

Damn I hope OP dies. It's funny how she claims you are "bullying" her seeing as she deserves much worse than the measured reasonable response she's getting

[sossegato]

The fact OP works with victims makes me physically ill.

I wish so bad I could find out who this abomination is and let wherever she works knows she's doubling down on trying to argue a woman being aware of sexual dimorphism and having intact pattern recognition is symptomatic of untreated sexual violence. Like, seriously, this psychopath works with victims. She thinks she's in the right here by the authority of her degrees and that her own experience insulates her from criticism of the heinousness of her views, which is exactly what she's projecting on Rowling.

'Women weaponise sexual trauma as bigotry against men' by any other name and yet she's having a blast with this post. Nauseating and fucking terrifying.

It brings to mind the 2022 case in Brazil of an 11 year old girl who became pregnant from rape in Santa Catarina.

There was a leaked video of a female judge and a female prosecutor trying to convince the girl to keep the foetus. They asked her questions such 'Could you hold on a bit longer being pregnant? Do you wanna pick the baby's name? Do you want to see him being born?'.

They tried to convince the girl that if she just held on a bit longer she wouldn't have to watch it agonising and dying.

This judge had a career in the Infancy and Youth Tribunal, the branch specialised in violence against minors. When the case blew up she was getting further specialisation in 'first infancy', finishing a doctorate in the area. She had written and published books about it. She said the rights of children and adolescents was her passion.

The prosecutor's public records showed she had worked in femicide cases and crimes against minors and the vulnerable.

By all means, they had an internal belief in the propriety of their own conduct and did not think their behaviour contradicted or constituted abuse of their authority.

And most importantly, nobody knew. There's no telling how much and in what way the same moral code that led them to try to force a pregnancy on a child affected their profession life-long, how the logic behind their priorities dictated how they interpreted and applied the law.

This is the reason why OP is particularly repulsive. One nobody on the internet perpetuating the idea a woman's sexual trauma directly impairs her cognition on a matters of safety is unfortunately garden variety but limited in scope.

Someone carrying this view at a professional capacity of authority over the personal and legal development of traumatised women is a black hole of immediate material damage.

[joannerowling]

@sossegato @marmorada Okay, i appreciate the support but maybe we could refrain from calling the OP an abomination and wishing her death? This is not why i reblogged this post and criticised her take. "Take a long walk off a short pier" is kind of funny if you think of Back from the Future, that shit, not so much.

[lionboygoofy2]

I don't understand why you choose to be raped.

[beebeebuzzbuzzz]

Obviously it was for the plot.

[beebeebuzzbuzzz]

JK Rowling is an excellent example of why victims of sexual abuse need to be connected to therapeutic services as soon as humanly possible.

JK Rowling became radicalized directly because of her sexual assault and the fact that she hasn't processed it yet. She is putting all of that unprocessed trauma on trans people because she hasn't been able to process the fact that whaat happened to her was terrible because the person who hurt her was terrible, and now things have spiralled so wildly out of control that she genuinely believes the hatred she's spewing will save others from victimization, all while victimizing an entire group of people because she just has not worked through her trauma.

This is not a defence for her abysmal behaviour, but instead an observation of what can happen when victims are failed by the system.

[joannerowling]

You condescending prat, JK Rowling didn't "become radicalised because of her sexual assault". JK Rowling has never even spoken about being sexually assaulted; she disclosed that her first husband had been physically abusive (which he rather crudely confirmed). Her stance on trans ideology is that sex is real and matters. You don't need Trauma™ to see the kind of problems it can bring to let any male individual into a space reserved for women, just because he's persuaded himself that wearing a dress and getting off from it makes him a girl. All it takes is some logic, common sense, and actual empathy for women – three things that your faux sympathy post obviously lacks.

[beebeebuzzbuzzz]

JK Rowling reveals she is survivor of domestic abuse and sexual assault

Author reveals experiences in essay after facing criticism over her comments on trans issues

Actually she has! Maybe educate yourself before saying dumb shit!

I have empathy for all women, including trans women. I myself am a sexual assault survivor, to the point where my rapist was convicted of raping me, so I think I have a pretty good amount of sympathy to survivors of that as well

There’s room for trans women to exist non punitively AND still have spaces for AFAB individuals. We can accomplish both, and the idea that we can’t is fucking ridiculous.

[joannerowling]

This bozo telling me, tumblr user joannerowling, to educate myself about JK Rowling.

Okay, let's clarify the meaning of my words, since you didn't catch the subtext: JK Rowling has never spoken extensively about the matter of her being sexually assaulted ; unlike the matter of her being a survivor of domestic abuse, which basically everyone knew in the 2000s (she was rather open about having had a messy divorce and having had to literally flee a country to escape him). And in her 2020 essay, which your source is pulling from, JKR is clearly only comfortable with describing the effects of sexual assault when lumped with the domestic abuse. Here are her words:

I’ve been in the public eye now for over twenty years and have never talked publicly about being a domestic abuse and sexual assault survivor. This isn’t because I’m ashamed those things happened to me, but because they’re traumatic to revisit and remember. I also feel protective of my daughter from my first marriage. I didn’t want to claim sole ownership of a story that belongs to her, too. However, a short while ago, I asked her how she’d feel if I were publicly honest about that part of my life, and she encouraged me to go ahead. […] The scars left by violence and sexual assault don’t disappear, no matter how loved you are, and no matter how much money you’ve made. My perennial jumpiness is a family joke – and even I know it’s funny – but I pray my daughters never have the same reasons I do for hating sudden loud noises, or finding people behind me when I haven’t heard them approaching. If you could come inside my head and understand what I feel when I read about a trans woman dying at the hands of a violent man, you’d find solidarity and kinship.

So, you've taken this notoriously private woman's obviously painful and reluctant (forced out by circumstances) disclosure of her past; singled out the sexual aspect of the domestic violence she endured that she won't get into details about; and instead of actually engaging with her words, you're using whatever simplified version the Guardian chewed up to suggest that the event turned her crazy, ie "radicalised" her into having hysterical nonsensical hatred for trans women to better cope or whatever the fuck, and "that is why victims should get helped". 🙏 Bless, what a saintly person you are!

Cut the crap already. Do you honestly think that JK Rowling, a freaking billionaire, doesn't have the means to consult a top notch therapist to "process a trauma"? A trauma that you apparently "processed" (like it's what, a can of food?) perfectly, since you hold the Correct Opinion™.

I don't believe for a second that you have sympathy for JKR, although i'm sure you tell yourself that you do. Otherwise you'd read what she actually has to say, instead of playing armchair therapist on tumblr dot com.

[sarcastic-sunshine]

Oi, OP! I've got two words and a sentence for you: fuck off! And take a very long walk off the very short pier!

And, actually, no, I've got this to say to you: the fucking nerve you've got to come on here, make a beyond condescending post about JKR, arm-chair diagnose her, then have the nerve to say that the only reason she's against males in our spaces only cause of her trauma–and it can't possibly be that she's against males in our spaces simply cause they don't belong on the account of not being female–and you consider yourself to be the one who's on the right side of history, the one who's the good person...gimme a fucking break!

Seriously, fuck all the way off!

(I do also suggest you go back to school to develop some critical thinking skills, you seem to be lacking them, oh and while you're at it, do develop some sympathy and compassion for actual women cause you seem to be lacking.)

P.S. don't bother to respond to me as I'm merely gonna ignore you, my only objective here was to call you out on your bs, and as I have done just that I'll be leaving now

@beebeebuzzbuzzz

[beebeebuzzbuzzz]

I have so much empathy and compassion for women that I literally obtained a criminal justice degree and am going to law school to become a lawyer to defend victim’s rights in court, but hey yeah I’ll just go take that long walk off that short pier and kill myself because a stranger on the internet can’t understand nuance without telling another woman, a DV and SA survivor at that, to kill herself. Real fucking mature.

[sarcastic-sunshine]

You have a very funny way of showing that compassion and sympathy towards women. Also, I did not tell you to kill yourself–and I will never say those words to another person, I was making a refrence to a movie and its character saying that to the movie's villain; I don't actually wish for you, nor anyone no matter how despicable they are to kill themselves. But hey, I'll acknowledge that it was mean to tell you to take a long walk off the short pier, and I'll apologise for that. However, I won't apologise for telling you to fuck off.

Anyhow, you can repeat however many times you want until you're blue in the face that you've got compassion and sympathy for women, and hey I can even believe that you believe that you do, but you don't actually, cause those that actually have compassion and sympathy for women don't say the things that you do. Now, I am sorry for things you went though, but that does not however give you the right to act all high and mighty, holier than thou, it does not give you the right to speak about other women the way you have. At the risk of sounding like a cliche, do better.

And now, I really will leave, and once again tell you that no, I do not wish for you to kill yourself, nor was I intending to tell you so; again, I was merely refrencing a movie.

Have a nice life.

[beebeebuzzbuzzz]

To take a single comment and say that I across the board have no sympathy for women is a ridiculous take. You don’t know me. Everyone can be wrong (not saying I am) once in a while and not have that define them. You don’t know me, you saw a singular post I made and decided I was a bad person, and that’s fucking ridiculous. You can also fuck off.

[beebeebuzzbuzzz]

JK Rowling is an excellent example of why victims of sexual abuse need to be connected to therapeutic services as soon as humanly possible.

JK Rowling became radicalized directly because of her sexual assault and the fact that she hasn't processed it yet. She is putting all of that unprocessed trauma on trans people because she hasn't been able to process the fact that whaat happened to her was terrible because the person who hurt her was terrible, and now things have spiralled so wildly out of control that she genuinely believes the hatred she's spewing will save others from victimization, all while victimizing an entire group of people because she just has not worked through her trauma.

This is not a defence for her abysmal behaviour, but instead an observation of what can happen when victims are failed by the system.

[godlesssicklady]

The fact that you think women like JK Rowling who have experienced male violence and because of their personal experience recognize males as a class as the source of the problem with male violence... must have "unprocessed trauma" and need therapy because they don't subscribe to your gender beliefs and therefore still recognize men who claims to be "transwomen" as male is really pathetic to say the least.

[beebeebuzzbuzzz]

I am a woman like JK Rowling.

[godlesssicklady]

Uh-huh and? Like I already figured that you're like the equivalent of religious women who get pissed off at women who dare criticize your beliefs and the "good men" in your religious community.

But in this case: The "religious" is gender, more specifically transgenderism, and the "'good men' in your religious community" are men who claims to be "transwomen".

[beebeebuzzbuzzz]

You could not be more incorrect.

[beebeebuzzbuzzz]

JK Rowling is an excellent example of why victims of sexual abuse need to be connected to therapeutic services as soon as humanly possible.

JK Rowling became radicalized directly because of her sexual assault and the fact that she hasn't processed it yet. She is putting all of that unprocessed trauma on trans people because she hasn't been able to process the fact that whaat happened to her was terrible because the person who hurt her was terrible, and now things have spiralled so wildly out of control that she genuinely believes the hatred she's spewing will save others from victimization, all while victimizing an entire group of people because she just has not worked through her trauma.

This is not a defence for her abysmal behaviour, but instead an observation of what can happen when victims are failed by the system.

[joannerowling]

You condescending prat, JK Rowling didn't "become radicalised because of her sexual assault". JK Rowling has never even spoken about being sexually assaulted; she disclosed that her first husband had been physically abusive (which he rather crudely confirmed). Her stance on trans ideology is that sex is real and matters. You don't need Trauma™ to see the kind of problems it can bring to let any male individual into a space reserved for women, just because he's persuaded himself that wearing a dress and getting off from it makes him a girl. All it takes is some logic, common sense, and actual empathy for women – three things that your faux sympathy post obviously lacks.

[beebeebuzzbuzzz]

JK Rowling reveals she is survivor of domestic abuse and sexual assault

Author reveals experiences in essay after facing criticism over her comments on trans issues

Actually she has! Maybe educate yourself before saying dumb shit!

I have empathy for all women, including trans women. I myself am a sexual assault survivor, to the point where my rapist was convicted of raping me, so I think I have a pretty good amount of sympathy to survivors of that as well

There’s room for trans women to exist non punitively AND still have spaces for AFAB individuals. We can accomplish both, and the idea that we can’t is fucking ridiculous.

[joannerowling]

This bozo telling me, tumblr user joannerowling, to educate myself about JK Rowling.

Okay, let's clarify the meaning of my words, since you didn't catch the subtext: JK Rowling has never spoken extensively about the matter of her being sexually assaulted ; unlike the matter of her being a survivor of domestic abuse, which basically everyone knew in the 2000s (she was rather open about having had a messy divorce and having had to literally flee a country to escape him). And in her 2020 essay, which your source is pulling from, JKR is clearly only comfortable with describing the effects of sexual assault when lumped with the domestic abuse. Here are her words:

I’ve been in the public eye now for over twenty years and have never talked publicly about being a domestic abuse and sexual assault survivor. This isn’t because I’m ashamed those things happened to me, but because they’re traumatic to revisit and remember. I also feel protective of my daughter from my first marriage. I didn’t want to claim sole ownership of a story that belongs to her, too. However, a short while ago, I asked her how she’d feel if I were publicly honest about that part of my life, and she encouraged me to go ahead. […] The scars left by violence and sexual assault don’t disappear, no matter how loved you are, and no matter how much money you’ve made. My perennial jumpiness is a family joke – and even I know it’s funny – but I pray my daughters never have the same reasons I do for hating sudden loud noises, or finding people behind me when I haven’t heard them approaching. If you could come inside my head and understand what I feel when I read about a trans woman dying at the hands of a violent man, you’d find solidarity and kinship.

So, you've taken this notoriously private woman's obviously painful and reluctant (forced out by circumstances) disclosure of her past; singled out the sexual aspect of the domestic violence she endured that she won't get into details about; and instead of actually engaging with her words, you're using whatever simplified version the Guardian chewed up to suggest that the event turned her crazy, ie "radicalised" her into having hysterical nonsensical hatred for trans women to better cope or whatever the fuck, and "that is why victims should get helped". 🙏 Bless, what a saintly person you are!

Cut the crap already. Do you honestly think that JK Rowling, a freaking billionaire, doesn't have the means to consult a top notch therapist to "process a trauma"? A trauma that you apparently "processed" (like it's what, a can of food?) perfectly, since you hold the Correct Opinion™.

I don't believe for a second that you have sympathy for JKR, although i'm sure you tell yourself that you do. Otherwise you'd read what she actually has to say, instead of playing armchair therapist on tumblr dot com.

[beebeebuzzbuzzz]

So if you actually read my post you would notice that I said victims need to be connected to services as soon as humanly possible. Absolutely JKR is more than capable of consulting the best practitioners in the world now, but at the time of the events she was not.

This delay often leads the victim to experience retraumatization when they are connected to services later, as they have to go back and dig up these horrible events they have started to move on from, and that is a truly terrible process that is well documented and that I can personally attest to

As for your opinion on whether or not I feel sympathy for JKR, I don't actually give a shit about your opinion, random stranger on the internet who knows me from all of two posts. Your perception does not change my reality, and I do feel immense sympathy for her as someone who has experienced similar events in my own life, which directly informed my original post.

Additionally, "processing" is therapeutic language, which clearly you are not aware I'd assume as a result of not experiencing the events and experiences you're poorly explaining to someone who has. I also have not, in fact, processed these events as of yet, I'm still working on that in therapy, not that that's any of your fucking business.

I am impressed by your audacity in bullying a survivor of the things you claim to be protecting others from by blocking people from simply going to the fucking bathroom, but I guess that's par for the course with you people.

[joannerowling]

Still not willing to address the point, are you?

How the hell would you know that JKR didn't get connected "in time" to not develop the "obviously just a trauma response" Very Bad Opinions (like "women need single sex spaces for when they're vulnerable") she holds now, like some kind of cancer? Answer: you don't.

Your perception does not change my reality […] I do feel immense sympathy for her

As i said, i'm sure you think so. I don't care that you don't care what i think, i'm not doing this for you ; i'm doing this because i think it's a public service to point out the bull contained in your post for the benefit of everyone who will read us.

Additionally, "processing" is therapeutic language

Which is why it's so fun to make fun of, because you are not a therapist. You are a random individual who has gone through shit like many individuals, and are using your experience as a license to diagnose JKR with hysterical woman syndrome because she disagrees with you, and you think the fact that you were a victim yourself absolves you of the inherent misogyny in doing that.

clearly you are not aware I'd assume as a result of not experiencing the events and experiences you're poorly explaining to someone who has

The entire point of this interraction is for me to point that you have a problem with "assuming" what others feel or don't feel, have gone through or have not, and how they experience things. A therapist might call that "projecting". After all, i share JK Rowling's opinions ; how do you know it's not because i'm coping with my trauma?

I am impressed by your audacity in bullying a survivor

I have been bombarded with messages such as "rape is good for you" and "you need a bullet in the head" for two months, as has every slightly known radical feminist on this site. I can assure you that me interracting with your tagged post without treating you with kiddie gloves is not bullying.

[marmorada]

Damn I hope OP dies. It's funny how she claims you are "bullying" her seeing as she deserves much worse than the measured reasonable response she's getting

[sossegato]

The fact OP works with victims makes me physically ill.

I wish so bad I could find out who this abomination is and let wherever she works knows she's doubling down on trying to argue a woman being aware of sexual dimorphism and having intact pattern recognition is symptomatic of untreated sexual violence. Like, seriously, this psychopath works with victims. She thinks she's in the right here by the authority of her degrees and that her own experience insulates her from criticism of the heinousness of her views, which is exactly what she's projecting on Rowling.

'Women weaponise sexual trauma as bigotry against men' by any other name and yet she's having a blast with this post. Nauseating and fucking terrifying.

It brings to mind the 2022 case in Brazil of an 11 year old girl who became pregnant from rape in Santa Catarina.

There was a leaked video of a female judge and a female prosecutor trying to convince the girl to keep the foetus. They asked her questions such 'Could you hold on a bit longer being pregnant? Do you wanna pick the baby's name? Do you want to see him being born?'.

They tried to convince the girl that if she just held on a bit longer she wouldn't have to watch it agonising and dying.

This judge had a career in the Infancy and Youth Tribunal, the branch specialised in violence against minors. When the case blew up she was getting further specialisation in 'first infancy', finishing a doctorate in the area. She had written and published books about it. She said the rights of children and adolescents was her passion.

The prosecutor's public records showed she had worked in femicide cases and crimes against minors and the vulnerable.

By all means, they had an internal belief in the propriety of their own conduct and did not think their behaviour contradicted or constituted abuse of their authority.

And most importantly, nobody knew. There's no telling how much and in what way the same moral code that led them to try to force a pregnancy on a child affected their profession life-long, how the logic behind their priorities dictated how they interpreted and applied the law.

This is the reason why OP is particularly repulsive. One nobody on the internet perpetuating the idea a woman's sexual trauma directly impairs her cognition on a matters of safety is unfortunately garden variety but limited in scope.

Someone carrying this view at a professional capacity of authority over the personal and legal development of traumatised women is a black hole of immediate material damage.

[joannerowling]

@sossegato @marmorada Okay, i appreciate the support but maybe we could refrain from calling the OP an abomination and wishing her death? This is not why i reblogged this post and criticised her take. "Take a long walk off a short pier" is kind of funny if you think of Back from the Future, that shit, not so much.

[sossegato]

On my end I think her view is an abomination and the fact she means to practice law within close range of victims and apply it makes her so. I'm not being hyperbolic, this has real consequences beyond perpetuating misogynistic misinformation about Rowling.

She's perfectly self-righteous too, which is even scarier and far more repulsive.

[beebeebuzzbuzzz]

Hi, yeah, you don’t fucking know me at all, and are only getting a small glimpse of me in a debate. If you wanna actually get some perspective we can move this to DMs but currently you just sound fucking insane

[beebeebuzzbuzzz]

JK Rowling is an excellent example of why victims of sexual abuse need to be connected to therapeutic services as soon as humanly possible.

JK Rowling became radicalized directly because of her sexual assault and the fact that she hasn't processed it yet. She is putting all of that unprocessed trauma on trans people because she hasn't been able to process the fact that whaat happened to her was terrible because the person who hurt her was terrible, and now things have spiralled so wildly out of control that she genuinely believes the hatred she's spewing will save others from victimization, all while victimizing an entire group of people because she just has not worked through her trauma.

This is not a defence for her abysmal behaviour, but instead an observation of what can happen when victims are failed by the system.

[joannerowling]

You condescending prat, JK Rowling didn't "become radicalised because of her sexual assault". JK Rowling has never even spoken about being sexually assaulted; she disclosed that her first husband had been physically abusive (which he rather crudely confirmed). Her stance on trans ideology is that sex is real and matters. You don't need Trauma™ to see the kind of problems it can bring to let any male individual into a space reserved for women, just because he's persuaded himself that wearing a dress and getting off from it makes him a girl. All it takes is some logic, common sense, and actual empathy for women – three things that your faux sympathy post obviously lacks.

[beebeebuzzbuzzz]

JK Rowling reveals she is survivor of domestic abuse and sexual assault

Author reveals experiences in essay after facing criticism over her comments on trans issues

Actually she has! Maybe educate yourself before saying dumb shit!

I have empathy for all women, including trans women. I myself am a sexual assault survivor, to the point where my rapist was convicted of raping me, so I think I have a pretty good amount of sympathy to survivors of that as well

There’s room for trans women to exist non punitively AND still have spaces for AFAB individuals. We can accomplish both, and the idea that we can’t is fucking ridiculous.

[joannerowling]

This bozo telling me, tumblr user joannerowling, to educate myself about JK Rowling.

Okay, let's clarify the meaning of my words, since you didn't catch the subtext: JK Rowling has never spoken extensively about the matter of her being sexually assaulted ; unlike the matter of her being a survivor of domestic abuse, which basically everyone knew in the 2000s (she was rather open about having had a messy divorce and having had to literally flee a country to escape him). And in her 2020 essay, which your source is pulling from, JKR is clearly only comfortable with describing the effects of sexual assault when lumped with the domestic abuse. Here are her words:

I’ve been in the public eye now for over twenty years and have never talked publicly about being a domestic abuse and sexual assault survivor. This isn’t because I’m ashamed those things happened to me, but because they’re traumatic to revisit and remember. I also feel protective of my daughter from my first marriage. I didn’t want to claim sole ownership of a story that belongs to her, too. However, a short while ago, I asked her how she’d feel if I were publicly honest about that part of my life, and she encouraged me to go ahead. […] The scars left by violence and sexual assault don’t disappear, no matter how loved you are, and no matter how much money you’ve made. My perennial jumpiness is a family joke – and even I know it’s funny – but I pray my daughters never have the same reasons I do for hating sudden loud noises, or finding people behind me when I haven’t heard them approaching. If you could come inside my head and understand what I feel when I read about a trans woman dying at the hands of a violent man, you’d find solidarity and kinship.

So, you've taken this notoriously private woman's obviously painful and reluctant (forced out by circumstances) disclosure of her past; singled out the sexual aspect of the domestic violence she endured that she won't get into details about; and instead of actually engaging with her words, you're using whatever simplified version the Guardian chewed up to suggest that the event turned her crazy, ie "radicalised" her into having hysterical nonsensical hatred for trans women to better cope or whatever the fuck, and "that is why victims should get helped". 🙏 Bless, what a saintly person you are!

Cut the crap already. Do you honestly think that JK Rowling, a freaking billionaire, doesn't have the means to consult a top notch therapist to "process a trauma"? A trauma that you apparently "processed" (like it's what, a can of food?) perfectly, since you hold the Correct Opinion™.

I don't believe for a second that you have sympathy for JKR, although i'm sure you tell yourself that you do. Otherwise you'd read what she actually has to say, instead of playing armchair therapist on tumblr dot com.

[beebeebuzzbuzzz]

So if you actually read my post you would notice that I said victims need to be connected to services as soon as humanly possible. Absolutely JKR is more than capable of consulting the best practitioners in the world now, but at the time of the events she was not.

This delay often leads the victim to experience retraumatization when they are connected to services later, as they have to go back and dig up these horrible events they have started to move on from, and that is a truly terrible process that is well documented and that I can personally attest to

As for your opinion on whether or not I feel sympathy for JKR, I don't actually give a shit about your opinion, random stranger on the internet who knows me from all of two posts. Your perception does not change my reality, and I do feel immense sympathy for her as someone who has experienced similar events in my own life, which directly informed my original post.

Additionally, "processing" is therapeutic language, which clearly you are not aware I'd assume as a result of not experiencing the events and experiences you're poorly explaining to someone who has. I also have not, in fact, processed these events as of yet, I'm still working on that in therapy, not that that's any of your fucking business.

I am impressed by your audacity in bullying a survivor of the things you claim to be protecting others from by blocking people from simply going to the fucking bathroom, but I guess that's par for the course with you people.

[joannerowling]

Still not willing to address the point, are you?

How the hell would you know that JKR didn't get connected "in time" to not develop the "obviously just a trauma response" Very Bad Opinions (like "women need single sex spaces for when they're vulnerable") she holds now, like some kind of cancer? Answer: you don't.

Your perception does not change my reality […] I do feel immense sympathy for her

As i said, i'm sure you think so. I don't care that you don't care what i think, i'm not doing this for you ; i'm doing this because i think it's a public service to point out the bull contained in your post for the benefit of everyone who will read us.

Additionally, "processing" is therapeutic language

Which is why it's so fun to make fun of, because you are not a therapist. You are a random individual who has gone through shit like many individuals, and are using your experience as a license to diagnose JKR with hysterical woman syndrome because she disagrees with you, and you think the fact that you were a victim yourself absolves you of the inherent misogyny in doing that.

clearly you are not aware I'd assume as a result of not experiencing the events and experiences you're poorly explaining to someone who has

The entire point of this interraction is for me to point that you have a problem with "assuming" what others feel or don't feel, have gone through or have not, and how they experience things. A therapist might call that "projecting". After all, i share JK Rowling's opinions ; how do you know it's not because i'm coping with my trauma?

I am impressed by your audacity in bullying a survivor

I have been bombarded with messages such as "rape is good for you" and "you need a bullet in the head" for two months, as has every slightly known radical feminist on this site. I can assure you that me interracting with your tagged post without treating you with kiddie gloves is not bullying.

[marmorada]

Damn I hope OP dies. It's funny how she claims you are "bullying" her seeing as she deserves much worse than the measured reasonable response she's getting

[sossegato]

The fact OP works with victims makes me physically ill.

I wish so bad I could find out who this abomination is and let wherever she works knows she's doubling down on trying to argue a woman being aware of sexual dimorphism and having intact pattern recognition is symptomatic of untreated sexual violence. Like, seriously, this psychopath works with victims. She thinks she's in the right here by the authority of her degrees and that her own experience insulates her from criticism of the heinousness of her views, which is exactly what she's projecting on Rowling.

'Women weaponise sexual trauma as bigotry against men' by any other name and yet she's having a blast with this post. Nauseating and fucking terrifying.

It brings to mind the 2022 case in Brazil of an 11 year old girl who became pregnant from rape in Santa Catarina.

There was a leaked video of a female judge and a female prosecutor trying to convince the girl to keep the foetus. They asked her questions such 'Could you hold on a bit longer being pregnant? Do you wanna pick the baby's name? Do you want to see him being born?'.

They tried to convince the girl that if she just held on a bit longer she wouldn't have to watch it agonising and dying.

This judge had a career in the Infancy and Youth Tribunal, the branch specialised in violence against minors. When the case blew up she was getting further specialisation in 'first infancy', finishing a doctorate in the area. She had written and published books about it. She said the rights of children and adolescents was her passion.

The prosecutor's public records showed she had worked in femicide cases and crimes against minors and the vulnerable.

By all means, they had an internal belief in the propriety of their own conduct and did not think their behaviour contradicted or constituted abuse of their authority.

And most importantly, nobody knew. There's no telling how much and in what way the same moral code that led them to try to force a pregnancy on a child affected their profession life-long, how the logic behind their priorities dictated how they interpreted and applied the law.

This is the reason why OP is particularly repulsive. One nobody on the internet perpetuating the idea a woman's sexual trauma directly impairs her cognition on a matters of safety is unfortunately garden variety but limited in scope.

Someone carrying this view at a professional capacity of authority over the personal and legal development of traumatised women is a black hole of immediate material damage.

[beebeebuzzbuzzz]

So it’s clear you lack reading comprehension. I don’t currently work with victims, I WISH to work with victims. One post on the internet also shouldnt change that, and in my country my opinions here would actually be deemed acceptable as we are very accepting of transgender individuals.

Calling me a psychopath is fucking ridiculous. People who disagree with you are not psychopathic

Unless you are a victimized woman I think you should really pipe the fuck down. I’d also like to point out I wish to work with FEMALE survivors.

Also, currently I don’t fucking work anywhere as I’m extremely disabled and struggling to get several issues under control, and am awaiting several surgeries, so please escalate complaints to whatever God or Deity you believe in.

[sossegato]

'I don’t currently work with victims' A genuine relief, if potentially temporary. 'People who disagree with you are not psychopathic'

I explained why your logic is psychopathic completely on its own. I don't hold nor implied a general conclusion, I meant you specifically.

'Unless you are a victimized woman I think you should really pipe the fuck down.'

Mine nor your personal experience guarantees a view that is ontologically consistent with reality. The issue of your view is that it isn't. Rowling's is.

'I wish to work with FEMALE survivors.' Hopefully you will never come anywhere close to it.

[beebeebuzzbuzzz]

Well now you’ve inspired me to give it a try.

I cannot wait to stand up for victims in a way no one ever stood up for me, and you will not dissuade me in doing so.

[beebeebuzzbuzzz]

JK Rowling is an excellent example of why victims of sexual abuse need to be connected to therapeutic services as soon as humanly possible.

JK Rowling became radicalized directly because of her sexual assault and the fact that she hasn't processed it yet. She is putting all of that unprocessed trauma on trans people because she hasn't been able to process the fact that whaat happened to her was terrible because the person who hurt her was terrible, and now things have spiralled so wildly out of control that she genuinely believes the hatred she's spewing will save others from victimization, all while victimizing an entire group of people because she just has not worked through her trauma.

This is not a defence for her abysmal behaviour, but instead an observation of what can happen when victims are failed by the system.

[godlesssicklady]

The fact that you think women like JK Rowling who have experienced male violence and because of their personal experience recognize males as a class as the source of the problem with male violence... must have "unprocessed trauma" and need therapy because they don't subscribe to your gender beliefs and therefore still recognize men who claims to be "transwomen" as male is really pathetic to say the least.

[beebeebuzzbuzzz]

I am a woman like JK Rowling.

[beebeebuzzbuzzz]

JK Rowling is an excellent example of why victims of sexual abuse need to be connected to therapeutic services as soon as humanly possible.

JK Rowling became radicalized directly because of her sexual assault and the fact that she hasn't processed it yet. She is putting all of that unprocessed trauma on trans people because she hasn't been able to process the fact that whaat happened to her was terrible because the person who hurt her was terrible, and now things have spiralled so wildly out of control that she genuinely believes the hatred she's spewing will save others from victimization, all while victimizing an entire group of people because she just has not worked through her trauma.

This is not a defence for her abysmal behaviour, but instead an observation of what can happen when victims are failed by the system.

[joannerowling]

You condescending prat, JK Rowling didn't "become radicalised because of her sexual assault". JK Rowling has never even spoken about being sexually assaulted; she disclosed that her first husband had been physically abusive (which he rather crudely confirmed). Her stance on trans ideology is that sex is real and matters. You don't need Trauma™ to see the kind of problems it can bring to let any male individual into a space reserved for women, just because he's persuaded himself that wearing a dress and getting off from it makes him a girl. All it takes is some logic, common sense, and actual empathy for women – three things that your faux sympathy post obviously lacks.

[beebeebuzzbuzzz]

JK Rowling reveals she is survivor of domestic abuse and sexual assault

Author reveals experiences in essay after facing criticism over her comments on trans issues

Actually she has! Maybe educate yourself before saying dumb shit!

I have empathy for all women, including trans women. I myself am a sexual assault survivor, to the point where my rapist was convicted of raping me, so I think I have a pretty good amount of sympathy to survivors of that as well

There’s room for trans women to exist non punitively AND still have spaces for AFAB individuals. We can accomplish both, and the idea that we can’t is fucking ridiculous.

[joannerowling]

This bozo telling me, tumblr user joannerowling, to educate myself about JK Rowling.

Okay, let's clarify the meaning of my words, since you didn't catch the subtext: JK Rowling has never spoken extensively about the matter of her being sexually assaulted ; unlike the matter of her being a survivor of domestic abuse, which basically everyone knew in the 2000s (she was rather open about having had a messy divorce and having had to literally flee a country to escape him). And in her 2020 essay, which your source is pulling from, JKR is clearly only comfortable with describing the effects of sexual assault when lumped with the domestic abuse. Here are her words:

I’ve been in the public eye now for over twenty years and have never talked publicly about being a domestic abuse and sexual assault survivor. This isn’t because I’m ashamed those things happened to me, but because they’re traumatic to revisit and remember. I also feel protective of my daughter from my first marriage. I didn’t want to claim sole ownership of a story that belongs to her, too. However, a short while ago, I asked her how she’d feel if I were publicly honest about that part of my life, and she encouraged me to go ahead. […] The scars left by violence and sexual assault don’t disappear, no matter how loved you are, and no matter how much money you’ve made. My perennial jumpiness is a family joke – and even I know it’s funny – but I pray my daughters never have the same reasons I do for hating sudden loud noises, or finding people behind me when I haven’t heard them approaching. If you could come inside my head and understand what I feel when I read about a trans woman dying at the hands of a violent man, you’d find solidarity and kinship.

So, you've taken this notoriously private woman's obviously painful and reluctant (forced out by circumstances) disclosure of her past; singled out the sexual aspect of the domestic violence she endured that she won't get into details about; and instead of actually engaging with her words, you're using whatever simplified version the Guardian chewed up to suggest that the event turned her crazy, ie "radicalised" her into having hysterical nonsensical hatred for trans women to better cope or whatever the fuck, and "that is why victims should get helped". 🙏 Bless, what a saintly person you are!

Cut the crap already. Do you honestly think that JK Rowling, a freaking billionaire, doesn't have the means to consult a top notch therapist to "process a trauma"? A trauma that you apparently "processed" (like it's what, a can of food?) perfectly, since you hold the Correct Opinion™.

I don't believe for a second that you have sympathy for JKR, although i'm sure you tell yourself that you do. Otherwise you'd read what she actually has to say, instead of playing armchair therapist on tumblr dot com.

[beebeebuzzbuzzz]

So if you actually read my post you would notice that I said victims need to be connected to services as soon as humanly possible. Absolutely JKR is more than capable of consulting the best practitioners in the world now, but at the time of the events she was not.

This delay often leads the victim to experience retraumatization when they are connected to services later, as they have to go back and dig up these horrible events they have started to move on from, and that is a truly terrible process that is well documented and that I can personally attest to

As for your opinion on whether or not I feel sympathy for JKR, I don't actually give a shit about your opinion, random stranger on the internet who knows me from all of two posts. Your perception does not change my reality, and I do feel immense sympathy for her as someone who has experienced similar events in my own life, which directly informed my original post.

Additionally, "processing" is therapeutic language, which clearly you are not aware I'd assume as a result of not experiencing the events and experiences you're poorly explaining to someone who has. I also have not, in fact, processed these events as of yet, I'm still working on that in therapy, not that that's any of your fucking business.

I am impressed by your audacity in bullying a survivor of the things you claim to be protecting others from by blocking people from simply going to the fucking bathroom, but I guess that's par for the course with you people.

[joannerowling]

Still not willing to address the point, are you?

How the hell would you know that JKR didn't get connected "in time" to not develop the "obviously just a trauma response" Very Bad Opinions (like "women need single sex spaces for when they're vulnerable") she holds now, like some kind of cancer? Answer: you don't.

Your perception does not change my reality […] I do feel immense sympathy for her

As i said, i'm sure you think so. I don't care that you don't care what i think, i'm not doing this for you ; i'm doing this because i think it's a public service to point out the bull contained in your post for the benefit of everyone who will read us.

Additionally, "processing" is therapeutic language

Which is why it's so fun to make fun of, because you are not a therapist. You are a random individual who has gone through shit like many individuals, and are using your experience as a license to diagnose JKR with hysterical woman syndrome because she disagrees with you, and you think the fact that you were a victim yourself absolves you of the inherent misogyny in doing that.

clearly you are not aware I'd assume as a result of not experiencing the events and experiences you're poorly explaining to someone who has

The entire point of this interraction is for me to point that you have a problem with "assuming" what others feel or don't feel, have gone through or have not, and how they experience things. A therapist might call that "projecting". After all, i share JK Rowling's opinions ; how do you know it's not because i'm coping with my trauma?

I am impressed by your audacity in bullying a survivor

I have been bombarded with messages such as "rape is good for you" and "you need a bullet in the head" for two months, as has every slightly known radical feminist on this site. I can assure you that me interracting with your tagged post without treating you with kiddie gloves is not bullying.

[marmorada]

Damn I hope OP dies. It's funny how she claims you are "bullying" her seeing as she deserves much worse than the measured reasonable response she's getting

[sossegato]

The fact OP works with victims makes me physically ill.

I wish so bad I could find out who this abomination is and let wherever she works knows she's doubling down on trying to argue a woman being aware of sexual dimorphism and having intact pattern recognition is symptomatic of untreated sexual violence. Like, seriously, this psychopath works with victims. She thinks she's in the right here by the authority of her degrees and that her own experience insulates her from criticism of the heinousness of her views, which is exactly what she's projecting on Rowling.

'Women weaponise sexual trauma as bigotry against men' by any other name and yet she's having a blast with this post. Nauseating and fucking terrifying.

It brings to mind the 2022 case in Brazil of an 11 year old girl who became pregnant from rape in Santa Catarina.

There was a leaked video of a female judge and a female prosecutor trying to convince the girl to keep the foetus. They asked her questions such 'Could you hold on a bit longer being pregnant? Do you wanna pick the baby's name? Do you want to see him being born?'.

They tried to convince the girl that if she just held on a bit longer she wouldn't have to watch it agonising and dying.

This judge had a career in the Infancy and Youth Tribunal, the branch specialised in violence against minors. When the case blew up she was getting further specialisation in 'first infancy', finishing a doctorate in the area. She had written and published books about it. She said the rights of children and adolescents was her passion.

The prosecutor's public records showed she had worked in femicide cases and crimes against minors and the vulnerable.

By all means, they had an internal belief in the propriety of their own conduct and did not think their behaviour contradicted or constituted abuse of their authority.

And most importantly, nobody knew. There's no telling how much and in what way the same moral code that led them to try to force a pregnancy on a child affected their profession life-long, how the logic behind their priorities dictated how they interpreted and applied the law.

This is the reason why OP is particularly repulsive. One nobody on the internet perpetuating the idea a woman's sexual trauma directly impairs her cognition on a matters of safety is unfortunately garden variety but limited in scope.

Someone carrying this view at a professional capacity of authority over the personal and legal development of traumatised women is a black hole of immediate material damage.

[beebeebuzzbuzzz]

So it’s clear you lack reading comprehension. I don’t currently work with victims, I WISH to work with victims. One post on the internet also shouldnt change that, and in my country my opinions here would actually be deemed acceptable as we are very accepting of transgender individuals.

Calling me a psychopath is fucking ridiculous. People who disagree with you are not psychopathic

Unless you are a victimized woman I think you should really pipe the fuck down. I’d also like to point out I wish to work with FEMALE survivors.

Also, currently I don’t fucking work anywhere as I’m extremely disabled and struggling to get several issues under control, and am awaiting several surgeries, so please escalate complaints to whatever God or Deity you believe in.

[beebeebuzzbuzzz]

Also, I’ve had an abortion, and support a women’s right to choose, not that I know how the fuck that came into the equation.

I’m gonna let you respond probably exactly once and then I will actually block you because literally what the fuck