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[Turing Test Study Guide] | 28 | he/him | Just Some Bi Guy

[toskarinfr]

[bi-astolfo]

Scooby-Doo collab with Dead by Daylight!!!

[bi-astolfo]

To be clear, I don't mean to judge, only inform, but I think you may be confusing narcissism with narcissus which is understandable; one was named after the other. But despite its namesake, narcissism (or NPD) does not refer to attraction to oneself; that's called autosexuality

Yeah, it was the only thing I knew to compare it to. Either way, it’s certainly not a “normal” thing to be turned on by yourself.

[spoiky]

It's usually Yosuke that yearns pathetically, but I think Yu should too, as a treat

[bi-astolfo]

"I’ve never heard of it outside of narcissism." I think you saying this in itself should act as a note to yourself that you're not aware of enough different perspectives to have a nuanced opinion on the matter, if narcissism (so-called or not, given how flipantly the label is thrown around) is truly the only explanation you can think of for someone being attracted to their body. Even the almost 50/50 split on the poll gives a small peak into the fact that it's not as straightforward as you might be inclined to think. In comparison, I actually never personally heard of attraction to one's own body as a direct link to narcissism or in conversations about it, only people with healthy relationships with their bodies and high self-confidence.

Like are we talking about finding yourself attractive of actually being attracted to yourself, because those are two very different things? The original post was about “turning yourself on” not finding yourself attractive.

[pocket-deer-belly]

i feel like being turned on by your own body is so agonizingly normal it's so fucked that that one guy made it a whole diagnosis specifically for trans women. and he's not even dead yet

[bi-astolfo]

Isn’t that some Narcissus level stuff? Also how is it trans women specific? I’m confused. It just makes me think of the likes of Patrick Bateman or, well, Narcissus.

[pocket-deer-belly]

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and we still haven't cannibalized him!

[bi-astolfo]

I’m not saying that isn’t somebody’s kink, but yeah it’s total bs to just assign it to a whole demographic. I still don’t think getting turned on by your own body is normal though. I’ve never heard of it outside of narcissism.

[luxomush]

So this very cool trans women band made a song about it !!

[bi-astolfo]

technically estrogen would probably stop the balding but theres other stuff for that too lol

Yeah, I need to get something for it. It was a pain having to put that stuff in my hair everyday because of my schedule. Thinking about getting one of those shampoo things.

[bi-astolfo]

You not being your own type makes sense why you are not turned on by yourself. Now imagine someone who is their own type. It's really, really not that weird and nobody is talking about popping a boner every time they look in the mirror. Also uh. The diagnosis of "narcissism" is as ethically and scientifically questionable as autogynephilia so going "no, no, that sounds like a different diagnosis doctors invented to subjugate people we have decided aren't allowed to feel good about themselves" is sure a choice.

I don’t know, I think narcissism is a thing. Most obviously example these days are people like Donald Trump who seem to deluded themselves into thinking they’re always right or the best or whatever. The Elon Musk types who surround themself with yes-men who just keep up the idea they have for themselves. I don’t know about the diagnostic specifics but I don’t think narcissism is such an outlandish concept.

[ubercharge]

(don't) be mean to her

[bi-astolfo]

Have you considered taking estrogen

No, I’m quite happy with my body. Ok, well that’s not exactly true. I could stand to lose some weight and I hate that I’m balding but like, nothing estrogen would fix. None of my problems are gender related.

[pocket-deer-belly]

i feel like being turned on by your own body is so agonizingly normal it's so fucked that that one guy made it a whole diagnosis specifically for trans women. and he's not even dead yet

[bi-astolfo]

Isn’t that some Narcissus level stuff? Also how is it trans women specific? I’m confused. It just makes me think of the likes of Patrick Bateman or, well, Narcissus.

[realflaminglily]

no this is like, exceptionally normal. most people can recognise themselves as attractive. there are of course people with self image issues that this doesn't perfectly apply to, including trans people who might be earlier in their transition, but there's nothing weird or perverse (or hyper-egotistical) about people seeing themselves as attractive. This goes for trans people just as much.

The reason this is a trans women specific issue is that this excessively normal aspect of the human condition- the same aspect that makes people dress like they want, groom themselves like they want, have hair styles that they want or act how they want- was identified as a mental disorder explicitly and exclusively for trans women, because trans women cannot do anything without being seen as mentally ill sexual deviants.

[bi-astolfo]

Finding yourself attractive is very different from being turned on by your own body. I can understand for trans people especially, liking your body much more following gender-confirming acts. I can recognize when I clean up real nice but it doesn’t make me all hot and bothered. I’m not getting a boner every time I see myself in the mirror.

[pocket-deer-belly]

i feel like being turned on by your own body is so agonizingly normal it's so fucked that that one guy made it a whole diagnosis specifically for trans women. and he's not even dead yet

[bi-astolfo]

Isn’t that some Narcissus level stuff? Also how is it trans women specific? I’m confused. It just makes me think of the likes of Patrick Bateman or, well, Narcissus.

[pocket-deer-belly]

page 200

and we still haven't cannibalized him!

[bi-astolfo]

I’m not saying that isn’t somebody’s kink, but yeah it’s total bs to just assign it to a whole demographic. I still don’t think getting turned on by your own body is normal though. I’ve never heard of it outside of narcissism.

[pocket-deer-belly]

have you ever been turned on by your own body?

yea

no

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[pocket-deer-belly]

i feel like being turned on by your own body is so agonizingly normal it's so fucked that that one guy made it a whole diagnosis specifically for trans women. and he's not even dead yet

[bi-astolfo]

Isn’t that some Narcissus level stuff? Also how is it trans women specific? I’m confused. It just makes me think of the likes of Patrick Bateman or, well, Narcissus.

[pocket-deer-belly]

page 200

and we still haven't cannibalized him!

[bi-astolfo]

I’m not saying that isn’t somebody’s kink, but yeah it’s total bs to just assign it to a whole demographic. I still don’t think getting turned on by your own body is normal though. I’ve never heard of it outside of narcissism.

[urotoramannekusus]

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[juney-blues]

sentence a lot of you could say more

[orphanedsource]

the place I work at remodeled these split gendered restrooms into “inclusive restrooms” and never told us what they meant while construction was ongoing. I need you to know every atom of potential criticism or whining that could’ve happened disappeared when people found out this meant we got 10 fully separate private bathrooms with sinks inside. I’ve not heard a single person crack a joke about the inclusive signage. this is the world TERFs are trying to steal from you

[revcleo]

This is called a "superloo" and terfs are actively trying to steal this from you, in the UK they changed bathroom regulations to mean new buildings have to prioritise gendered toilets rather than build superloos.

This also upset a lot of architects and designers who like the superloos. They're also typically more like small rooms rather than having doors you can look under.