Bleackbeard’s Heartbreak

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[blackbeardsheartbreak]

[blackbeardsheartbreak]

Izzy as some Obi Wan mentor? For who?

Ed? He’s got him buried in the front yard so he always knows where he is. Ed’s finally free of Izzy peering over his shoulder and sneaking up on him and his judgement. Fuck no!

Stede? Ew. No thanks!

Prince Ricky? Eh, sure, that could be fun.

[asneakyfox]

were there two obi-wan bits? the obi-wan stuff i heard wasn't about mentorship, it was super clearly just an example of a character who dies but continues to have an important and positive effect on the narrative. (for one thing, he specified obi-wan in the first movie - there's no force ghosts in that movie, just the memory of obi-wan's voice at a crucial point.)

which was always pretty clearly how any continuation of ofmd would portray izzy. i don't think he was saying anything in particular about force ghost izzy providing ongoing mentorship like obi-wan does (although i have always figured s3 would have some sort of ghost izzy content, possibly an ambiguously imaginary one like nigel was in early s1).

[blackbeardsheartbreak]

Yeah, fair, mentor might be the wrong word. I just don’t like the idea of Izzy suddenly reappearing after Ed was finally free of him.

[celluloidbroomcloset]

Maybe it's just because it's been a while since I've seen the early parts of the episode, but I really love Ed and Stede's relationship in "Calypso's Birthday." They're comfortable with each other. Ed's still feeling his way around, but there's connection and comradery there that doesn't have that tinge of desperation that they have in the first season, where they both seem to feel like they have to do something because oh my God I LIKE him.

They're on solid ground with each other. They're almost always together (I don't think there's a single scene with one that doesn't include the other?). It's subtle and quiet, but they're acting like a couple.

I know it's a topic for debate, but I think that even if Ned Low hadn't shown up, they would have made love that night. It just would have been calmer.

[blackbeardsheartbreak]

Just sucks that it was because of Ned Low.

[crimson-and-clover-1717]

A public service announcement to remind that these two wonderful characters are the leads of ‘Our Flag Means Death’, both seasons.

And that this picture is ultimately what the show is about. (And all the kissing pics, but this image tickles me)

[blackbeardsheartbreak]

Izzy as some Obi Wan mentor? For who?

Ed? He’s got him buried in the front yard so he always knows where he is. Ed’s finally free of Izzy peering over his shoulder and sneaking up on him and his judgement. Fuck no!

Stede? Ew. No thanks!

Prince Ricky? Eh, sure, that could be fun.

[celluloidbroomcloset]

I've got no idea what David's on about.

[iamadequate1]

We all need to keep in mind that David is running on a memory of previous thoughts and ideas, some that didn't even make it to the draft stage. Izzy is a godawful first mate and no one's mentor figure. That's what's onscreen. It may have been different in early conception, but what made it to the final cut is what's canon. I will not be shocked when fandom forgets this, though.

[blackbeardsheartbreak]

Yeah, I know he sees Izzy as this complex character but that’s not what he showed us!

I get that he likes working with them together but he’s already showed us how toxic he is to Ed.

[iamadequate1]

I get that a writer (or other creative) will imagine extra backstory for characters they (help) create, but Jenkins, right, there is no complexity or virtues or competencies or major growth for Izzy shown onscreen. What "complexity" is there to Izzy? It's not "complex" to be a homophobic and abusive prick who screams "twat" a lot and a cis masc white man who thinks he's more competent/important than he is, and that's the full extent of Izzy's "character."

There is a lot of disappointing things coming out of that convention, and it looks like Jenkins also needs practice in presenting a differentiation between development and headcanons and the final product, and differentiation between character and actor.

[blackbeardsheartbreak]

I agree.

This has put me in such a mood today and I hate it. But it’s because I love it so much…

[blackbeardsheartbreak]

Izzy as some Obi Wan mentor? For who?

Ed? He’s got him buried in the front yard so he always knows where he is. Ed’s finally free of Izzy peering over his shoulder and sneaking up on him and his judgement. Fuck no!

Stede? Ew. No thanks!

Prince Ricky? Eh, sure, that could be fun.

[celluloidbroomcloset]

I've got no idea what David's on about.

[iamadequate1]

We all need to keep in mind that David is running on a memory of previous thoughts and ideas, some that didn't even make it to the draft stage. Izzy is a godawful first mate and no one's mentor figure. That's what's onscreen. It may have been different in early conception, but what made it to the final cut is what's canon. I will not be shocked when fandom forgets this, though.

[blackbeardsheartbreak]

Yeah, I know he sees Izzy as this complex character but that’s not what he showed us!

I get that he likes working with them together but he’s already showed us how toxic he is to Ed.

[blackbeardsheartbreak]

Izzy as some Obi Wan mentor? For who?

Ed? He’s got him buried in the front yard so he always knows where he is. Ed’s finally free of Izzy peering over his shoulder and sneaking up on him and his judgement. Fuck no!

Stede? Ew. No thanks!

Prince Ricky? Eh, sure, that could be fun.

[celluloidbroomcloset]

Izzy's death is all about Ed. Ed's sadness, Ed's catharsis, Ed crying openly in front of other people (Ed! Who hid in his cabin to cry! Who was told he could not show emotion! Who kept concealing his heart because he didn't feel safe to show it!), Ed mourning someone he cared for as he could never mourn his father, Ed being supported by the people who love him.

Izzy's last words are an apology to Ed, an acceptance of Ed, and a releasing of Ed.

It's all about Ed.

[tackminyard]

imagine finding an abandoned house and thinking you can maybe take some stuff from it but instead you find a troupe of the worst theatre gays you’ve ever seen putting on the most unconvincing and disorganized production and the scariest serial killer you’ve ever heard of who seems to be just hanging out with them enjoying the show. like what was going through the minds of those dutch merchants. are they okay

[blackbeardsheartbreak]

This play, The Princess Bride, was captivating. The flyer promised ‘fencing, fighting, torture, revenge, giants, monsters, chases, escapes, true love, miracles’ and it delivered on every promise. After sitting mostly still and pretty quiet for so so long, Ed was now rambling on excitedly as they began their walk home. Well, Stede was walking and Ed was skipping and hopping and walking backwards at times, too excited to simply walk.

“Shrieking eels, Stede! Can you imagine? Throw some dick overboard during a raid and the sea starts shrieking?”

****

What do our favorite innkeepers think of The Princess Bride?

Ed loves it.

Stede … isn’t quite there.

https://archiveofourown.org/works/64149364#main

[crimson-and-clover-1717]

When Izzy has the gall to say ‘I fed your darkness’, as if Edward were some passive lump taking in Izzy’s poison to enhance his own with no resistance, Ed’s response is actually this…

Ed fought so hard time and again to resist Izzy's darkness in later years. It wasn’t Ed’s darkness that was fed. Izzy poured his darkness onto Ed’s soft broken soul, which absorbed it until it couldn’t cope under the weight. The darkness was external to Ed.

So, yeah, I don’t have much time for Izzy’s deathbed, I’m-about-to-meet-my-maker-so-better-confess mutterings. It’s still an unreliable narrative as always.

[agaywithcoffee]

[celluloidbroomcloset]

If you’re not heartbroken when Stede thinks Ed chooses Jack over him, I don’t know what to tell you.

LOOK AT HIS SAD LITTLE FACE.

[mermaidinn]

the end of the road

[blackbeardsheartbreak]

How much would Ed love this Stede-coded set of fidget spinners?

[blackbeardsheartbreak]

Where do I find myself one of those store-bought pirates Calico Jack was talking about?

[anerstellae]

There’s something with Ed/Taika that just blow my mind every time I think about it. I simply CANNOT - no matter how hard I try - see Taika throught Ed. I don’t know, when he plays Ed, the man fucking disapear. I feel like a child watching a magic trick. And no, it’s not the beard or the costume (maybe the hair a little?)

I don’t have this impression at all with the others. And I don’t think it means he’s a better comedian or anything, but it’s really really impressive, honestly.

(Actually there’s one exception and… yeah, it’s the « im your captain » scene. …idk man.)