[burningviolets]

──── .  ✦.   // 𝐁𝐮𝐫𝐧𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐕𝐢𝐨𝐥𝐞𝐭𝐬 𝐢𝐬 𝐚 𝐥𝐞𝐬𝐛𝐢𝐚𝐧-𝐨𝐧𝐥𝐲 𝐚𝐫𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐯𝐞 dedicated to preserving posts, essays, and rants that stand against the erasure and exploitation of homosexual women. this blog exists because every ideological camp — conservative, liberal, radical — has tried to redefine lesbianism until nothing of it remains. here, it’s restored to its original meaning: women who love women, and only women.

─ .  ✦.  𝐃𝐢𝐬𝐜𝐥𝐚𝐢𝐦𝐞𝐫: This is a blog made for & by gold star lesbian(s). That said, many GSLs have different beliefs ─  we are not a monolith. This blog is just an archival blog meant to document lesbians standing up against homophobes rather than policing each & every word. and most of the posts i tried excavating were very difficult to uncover, as such there might be reblogs from deleted blogs that i could not access.

𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐬 𝐛𝐥𝐨𝐠 𝐫𝐞𝐛𝐥𝐨𝐠𝐬 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐟𝐫𝐨𝐧𝐭𝐢𝐧𝐠: ─ ✦ the fetishization and invalidation of lesbians (d*kebreaking, etc) ─ ✦ “comphet” rhetoric used to justify male attraction ─ ✦ political lesbianism and the claim that homosexuality is a “choice” ─ ✦ bisexual and heterosexual intrusion into lesbian spaces ─ ✦ cultural patterns that treat lesbianism as a phase, performance, or moral stance instead of orientation

𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐬 𝐢𝐬 𝐧𝐨𝐭 𝐚𝐧 “𝐢𝐧𝐜𝐥𝐮𝐬𝐢𝐨𝐧” 𝐬𝐩𝐚𝐜𝐞. it’s a preservation one — a record of lesbian resistance and clarity in an age of ideological fog.

──── .  ✦.    𝐓𝐋𝐃𝐑: documenting homophobia from men, straight women, and bi women — ✦ lesbian only. |. FAQ

──── .  ✦.    𝐏𝐞𝐫𝐬𝐨𝐧𝐚𝐥 𝐧𝐨𝐭𝐞: everyone should be able to interact with this blog since it's a side blog ♡.

IMPORTANT READING LIST:

─ .  ✦. Sespursongles doc. (Internet Archive) ─ .  ✦. The Actual Lesbian Perspective ─ .  ✦. Menalez doc. (Hosted by catbox)

𝐓𝐀𝐆 𝐒𝐘𝐒𝐓𝐄𝐌:

─ ✦. core ideology tags

#violet ink → commentary made by me.

#lesphobia → general tag for all homophobia toward lesbians.

#comphet myth → for posts debunking or criticizing compulsory heterosexuality rhetoric.

#osa larping → for straight or bi women posing as lesbians / appropriating lesbian identity.

#bi lesphobia → for bi women’s specific patterns of homophobia.

#bisexuals oppressing lesbians → meta posts explaining sociological dynamics within the LGBT

#radfem lesphobia → for radfem or gender-critical spaces erasing or redefining lesbians or generally being homophobic.

#libfem lesphobia → for liberal or q-theory-based lesphobia (non-men loving non-men, etc).

#political lesbianism → for content addressing or exposing that ideology specifically.

#lesbian resistance → for positive posts, callouts, or affirmations of boundaries.

#fakebians → calling out fake lesbians.

#answered → asks & anons

[lesbianp1lled]

“I’m also not gonna freak out tho if a woman had sex with a man once, decided it wasn’t for her, and then never did it again and she calls herself a lesbian”

Coming from a supposed ‘gold star’ blog btw.

This is literal rhetoric homophobes use by saying “how do you know if u don’t like men if you haven’t tried it?” You’re pretty much saying lesbians can ‘try’ men once and be a lesbian even though that goes against the definition of our sexual orientation? Why does a ‘lesbian’ need to try a man to see if she likes it or not? This may be hard for a non-lesbian to comprehend, but the mere THOUGHT of being intimate with a man makes me want to throw up. I don’t need to try a man to know i’m a lesbian, I know it will do nothing for me so it’s pointless.

“Decided it wasn’t for her” many het and bi women have disappointing experiences with men in bed, doesn’t mean they’re not attracted to them. The fact you even TRIED a man is antithetical to being a lesbian. You have to have a baseline attraction to have consensual sex.

Silver star annoying homophobic ass. Beware of this so called gold star lesbian blog, she is a political fakebian sympathiser.

[burningviolets]

Thank you for linking the sespursongles doc! I've been looking for a bunch of her old posts for a while and this just made my life so much easier.

No problem, I've loved her work for so long now, i am grateful someone was kind enough to put it together. Here's hoping she's happy wherever she is right now ദ്ദി(˵ •̀ ᴗ - ˵ ) ✧

[burningviolets]

𝐋𝐄𝐒𝐁𝐈𝐀𝐍 𝐀𝐑𝐂𝐇𝐈𝐕𝐄 ────✦. Burning Violets

─ .  ✦. 𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐬 𝐛𝐥𝐨𝐠 𝐩𝐫𝐞𝐬𝐞𝐫𝐯𝐞𝐬 𝐩𝐨𝐬𝐭𝐬 𝐨𝐟 𝐥𝐞𝐬𝐛𝐢𝐚𝐧𝐬 who stood up against radfem & libfem lesphobia — all the lesbians who were told to shut up, be polite, or ‘think of the movement’ while everyone else erased us. this is an archive of lesbian resistance, not a place to restart old debates, but to document what happened, name the lesphobia for what it was, and offer proof to other lesbians that they weren’t alone in the backlash.

──── .  ✦.    𝐓𝐋𝐃𝐑: documenting lesphobia from men, straight women, and bi women and men. i encourage other lesbians to look through the tags of this blog to explore specific topics and read the words of lesbians defending our community & boundaries. /. THIS IS A SIDEBLOG !

──── .  ✦.    FAQ

[sespursongles-deactivated201906]

On the topic of sexual fluidity and conversion therapy, I wanted to reblog this post but I can’t because liberal-lesbophobia blocked me because I’m a lesbian so I’ll just sum it up: some conservative Christian conversion therapists are now abandoning the term “conversion therapy” (because, as they explain, the term “has been demonized”) and rebranding it as “sexual fluidity exploration in therapy”.

Now, fun games:

Go on the goodreads page of that book written by a bi woman where the main character starts out as a lesbian and ends up with a guy, filter for 5 star reviews (most of them written by bi women) and search for the word “fluid”. In the first 2 pages of reviews (and not counting the book’s blurb about ~the fluidity of love), I found 15 different people using the “sexuality is fluid” argument (usually in all caps) to defend the book. That’s why I called it a conversion therapy propaganda book.

Read the document written by the conversion therapists and notice the arguments that sound absolutely identical to what trans & bi women tell lesbians on a daily basis.

I’ll get you started: “The [term sexual fluidity exploration] accurately conveys that the therapist is not being coercive but merely assisting individuals in a client-centered examination of their sexual attractions.” (“Nobody’s forcing you to date transwomen, we’re just asking you to examine…”)

What they have to say about category change is also interesting: talking about sexual fluidity exploration rather than conversion therapy is better because it “does not imply that categorical change is the goal […] nor does it imply that change which is less than categorical in nature cannot be meaningful and satisfying to clients”. Which is exactly the way that bi woman who defended the book yesterday argued - the lesbian character does not become straight, therefore it’s not conversion therapy. Their rebranding efforts are really successful. Although mostly with people who were eager to support them in the first place.

And of course when they say “Scientifically, the fluidity of sexual orientation (and, for our purposes, especially same-sex attractions) for many women and men is now beyond question”, they quote Lisa Diamond to support their claim. Diamond, whose study shows that lesbian sexuality is not fluid at all. In fact the main thing her study shows is that bi women love to call themselves lesbians (”Other women with nonexclusive attractions would routinely change their identity labels in accordance with their current romantic partner or social network. If they were seriously involved with a woman, they identified as lesbian. If they were seriously involved with a man, they identified as bisexual or heterosexual, all the while acknowledging that they remained attracted to both sexes.”) and that it’s incredibly harmful to actual lesbians because bi women’s lies about their orientation will then be happily quoted by conversion therapists to convince their lesbian patients that they too can and should learn to love dick.

Conclusion: bi women, stop pretending sexuality is fluid, it hurts lesbians. Stop calling yourselves gay/lesbian, it hurts lesbians. But you know that, don’t you?

[men-sik-isleyarin]

Don’t mean to hijack this post (feel free to ignore) but as a gay boy this is literally what I was put through when I was a kid by my mom looking for someone to “at least” make me bi since psych after psych told her making me straight was impossible. The whole argument of “why not explore your sexuality, why are you limiting it to just men when there’s a whole other world to explore?” was used against me for years and I even bought it myself for a while. And this was in Toronto, Canada!

And now I see this same argument used against young lesbians and gays and it’s fucking sickening to see this attitude be supported by the mainstream “queer” movement. We absolutely have to fight against it with all we can.

[sespursongles-deactivated201906]

Thank you for sharing this. I didn’t talk about gay/bi men because I don’t know anything about this dynamics and how it compares to lesbians vs. bi women, but of course “sexual fluidity” rhetoric is used against gay men too. It seems that the conservative side used to have a “hard” conversion narrative - “Same sex attraction is disgusting and unnatural, we can force you to be straight or at least never act upon your perverted gay impulses” - while the liberal/queer side uses a “soft” conversion narrative - “Same sex attraction is great as long as it’s not exclusive, don’t get me wrong of course you can’t become straight but surely you can be at least bi if you make an effort, we’re all a little bit bi/fluid, unlearn your prejudices, don’t limit yourself to one sex, try being less shallow and caring about personality more than genitals” etc. And the conservatives are realising that their hard narrative is becoming unpopular (“demonized”, as they say) so now they’re trying to adopt the more subtle liberal one. Of course from a gay person’s perspective both tactics are just as harmful since it’s about trying to force het sex or relationships on us, but while we’re usually able to build defences against the “classic” hard narrative, the “soft” tactic is more recent and more insidious, and a lot of us initially buy it, especially young gay kids when they hear it from their peers.

(Sometimes the lines are blurred in the other direction too - liberals slip and start accidentally spouting textbook “classic conversion” rhetoric, like “men who don’t like vagina / women who don’t like dick are unnatural perverted genital fetishists” (except, as exclusionaryhomosexual said, liberals tend to use (pseudo)science to justify it while conservatives use religion) or “lesbians can’t have real sex anyway so why not settle for a sexless het relationship” - proving that both groups have completely identical views of homosexuality, they just have different preferred methods to eradicate it.)

[gncenjoyer-moved-deactivated202]

Mfs can theorize and write essays all day but in the end lesbians cannot and do not, under any circumstance, want to have sex with a man and gay men cannot and do not, under any circumstance, want to have sex with a woman. If you believe otherwise you don’t believe in homosexuality and you’re homophobic. That’s it boss

[sapphichighlands]

growing up as a lesbian woc

the gold star lesbian discourse around comphet is really …. something

i just wanted to give my two cents as 2nd gen immigrant and woc. In my culture, and many of our families (mine being West Asian) being queer is genuinely not an option, whether that be because of years colonialism stripping us of queer history, religion’s impact, or both. It still stands that being queer is unacceptable or unheard of. I was always curious about queer history in the Western Asia, and would ask if we had any queer folks/suspected queer folks in my family, I was told “that doesn’t exist in our race/ethnic group”.

We not only aren’t allowed to exist, we aren’t expected to.

I grew up not even knowing I could be lesbian. I tried my hardest to like men, I never noticed any feelings I had for women. If I liked a girl, it was because I wanted to be friends with pretty people “that’s normal” i thought, everyone wants pretty friends. At one point I was 12 and I remember being jealous of this girls dog because I thought “he gets to spend time with her” …. and I still didn’t put it together. I went years picking crushes, telling people I liked certain guys, to the point where I started believing it and getting anxious around them. I would mistake my literal anxiety for feelings.

When I was 14 I decided, okay I have to be asexual, because I just don’t feel attracted to men, and being with them sexually disgusts me. However, I thought, “I like YA novels with these straight couples, so that must mean I can romantically like men, if not sexually”. Again being attracted to women never came to my mind, it just wasn’t a part of my reality. But interestingly, I remember I would wish I liked women, I thought “life would be easier if I liked girls”, because I genuinely was terrified of the notion of even having to eventually spend my life with a man (as was expected of me).

Still I would force myself to flirt with guys, I remember my first kiss (after having run away from and dodged every single other guy that had tried). The kiss felt like nothing, so boring, I thought “why do people like doing this”. Starting from that point on, my high school experience was me getting drunk going to parties and trying to see if I could feel attraction to men. Drink after drink, nothing made a difference— I could not bring myself to kiss another guy again. So I led people on, faked crushes based on conventional attractiveness, felt nervous around said “crushes”.

I was inexplicably lonely in my experience.

I remember once at an all girls party when I was 17 and sober, I really had the urge to kiss this girl, I just wanted to be near her. When I heard her compliment me, it made me feel something for the first time in my life. And do you know what came to my mind? “I must be really lonely, I need a boyfriend”.

I didn’t realize I was a lesbian until I moved out at the age of 20, fell in love with a woman I didn’t realize I had feeling for until my heart was absolutely broken.

Anyways, I find it extremely unfair to say that lesbians that experienced comphet through perceived crushes on men, are “fake” lesbians. Our expierences are not the same because our lives are not, our cultures are not. The Lesbian masterdoc genuinely helped me put the pieces together, so even shitting on it irks me (* clarification, you can have issues w it but to discard how much it has helped people is ?). Not every single lesbian’s experience is going to be the same.

(disclaimer: when i mention option, it in no way means being queer or lesbian is a choice, i mean it in the context of being queer not existing within our reality ie being told and taught that being queer is a western concept. many of us are raised believing the only thing that exists is heterosexuality which plays into us not being able to understand our feelings towards women ie thinking or even contemplating that we are gay, is not an option).

[goldstarsappho]

I am actually from a Muslim-majority country in Asia where it’s a crime, punishable by death, to be homosexual, and I’ve actually spent time in prison for being gay. My romantic partner was hanged. 

It was still an option for me to be homosexual. Indeed, it was the only option, because that’s actually how I was born. It was biological. I wasn’t physically capable of being in a hetero relationship or of kissing or having sex with a man. It wasn’t an option for the literally hundreds of other homosexuals I knew or knew of in my country. That’s why we were imprisoned and tortured and killed. We literally couldn’t hide it, we didn’t have the option.

There’s no culture and no country where homosexuality does not exist or is not an option. Genuine homosexuals are born everywhere on Earth, and live and die as homosexuals. 

[marblecakemix]

I kinda don't get why there's such a big dislike of bi women on here. Why are a lot of lesbians (I presume) so bitter about being left for a man? Maybe I don't understand the feeling, because I was never dumped by a bisexual woman, but it just seems so childish to say that in general bi women play with other girls feeling just to leave her for a man.

It do be like that sometimes. People will hurt you, that's the thing with relationships. No matter the reason or age, one way or another you'll be hurt by someone you think is the love of your life. And if it happens to be a bi woman who's now with an ugly man, so be it. Don't drag down other women for your tragedy 🤷

[lesbianp1lled]

Bisexuals talk over lesbians and our experiences. Bisexuals larp as lesbians all the time. Bisexuals push sexual fluidity onto homosexuals and push conversion therapy rhetoric.

And you truly believe lesbians are bitter about a bi women leaving us for a man? You think THAT’S what lesbians are mad about? There are much worse things bisexuals do than just simply leave a lesbian for a man.

[plushcrow]

there's something to be said about bisexual envy of lesbians and how tone deaf it is. considering this post & this post & the ones i've received or even this one; this is mainly concerning SSA leaning bisexuals, or the ones who call themselves febfems. (bisexuals who exclusively date other women), I've noticed they're always saying condescending and patronizing things like "i wish i were a lesbian" and insinuating lesbians have it easier. i've seen so many say they call themselves gay because it's "just easier" (it is not. it's homophobic),

bisexuals are the ones with the option to opt out of homophobia at any given moment by getting into an osa relationship; homosexuals will never have that privilege. And I know that SSA leaning bisexuals think that will never be them, but even still, i think it's wrong to wish you were a lesbian. you're not one, you'll never be one, you'll never experience lesbian specific attraction or trauma because you're inherently someone with osa; osa potential is foundational to your sexuality, even if you choose never to act on it. that does not go away just because you choose not to pursue men or have no desire to pursue them. as one anon told me, "Plus I’m a kinsey 5 and a febfem so I don’t think calling myself a lesbian would do material harm to any of you “born gay” types." that is absolutely false & disgusting of you. lesbians are telling bisexuals to not invade lesbian spaces & bisexuals instead insist we are "virtually the same" & then later complain about "biphobia" & "bi erasure".

calling yourself "gay" as bisexuals is homophobic; gay = homosexual, it shouldn't be an umbrella term for opposite sex attracted people to hide under. bisexuals are bi, attracted to both sexes; there's nothing wrong with that. where things do go wrong is when blatant envy of lesbians comes into play. it is hard to be attracted to your oppressors (men), i understand, but that doesn't mean lesbians are living in some misogyny-free d*ke paradise. being a lesbian is pure hell on earth. it's not some cutesy thing that the internet gives you cool points for. people think you're privileged because the L in LGBT comes first, but you get no boundaries as a lesbian; everyone wants you to not be one & they go out of their way to violate and abuse you. the idea that they think being gay would've made their life easier is just so…. tone deaf. i dont even know where to start. Conversion therapy has NEVER focused on making bisexuals "gay", it's on making lesbians and bis "straight"- yet they live in some delusional land where being a lesbian is overall easier. so infuriating

"well, this way i won't have to explain to people i am choosing not to date men", bis who say this are cowards, that isn’t safety, it’s hiding behind someone else’s identity. being a lesbian is not easier, its being seen as a complete failure of a woman, their choice is not "easier", it just harms lesbians, but they genuinely do not give a fuck because they have a lesphobic mindset. Bisexuals have their own issues and i wish they'd focus on community building instead of leeaching of lesbians.

EDIT: I forgot to mention but the biggest & most influential example of what i am talking about is the "lesbian masterdoc" that argued that liking feminine men, fictional men, or romantic attention from males, was a lesbian experience. when in reality, it was a bisexual woman coping poorly with her lesphobia while desperately clinging to the delusion that she is a lesbian.

screenshots of the posts i linked are below:

[lesbianp1lled]

It’s hard for me to comprehend why so many bisexuals want to be gay/lesbian and say they’re that instead of bi when lesbians go through so much, but I do think there are a few reasons. I think bis think their same-sex attraction will be taken more seriously if they say they’re lesbian because the stereotype is that bis go for the opposite sex more but for some bisexuals and I say SOME because they are in the minority, do lean more towards the same-sex.

I think another reason is to gain oppression points, it is true homosexuals face more hardships in a lot of way than bis, we don’t have the privilege to be in an opposite-sex relationship and seem straight. So they want to be seen as us to get more points in LGB spaces.

Another is to gain access to homosexual spaces. The amount of times a bi will try an infiltrate lesbian spaces, online too, is shocking and an erosion of trust. Stay in ur lane and respect our spaces.

In a lot of radfem spaces there are bis larping as lesbian. Radical feminists don’t like men, and they want to say they’re lesbian to prove they don’t like men despite attraction to them. In a radfems eyes, being a lesbian is a fuck you to the patriarchy (i’ve seen them say this) so they want to be seen as the biggest feminist. Of course being a lesbian doesn’t mean you’ll be a feminist etc.

None of this makes it ok for bis to do this. These are just som of my theories

[theoldlesbianwithcats]

I've read/listened to a lot of testimonies of fakebians and polilez, so I can give some answers 🙋‍♀️

For some of them, it's simply "I'm married to a woman or have no intention of dating men in the foreseeable future, so why call myself bisexual". Those women typically think that everyone is secretly bisexual so to them, lesbians are either same-sex-leaning bis, liars, or playing hard-to-get.

In feminist spaces (I don't say radfem because unfortunately in my country there are a lot of libfem polilez as well), it is definitely about being the best, most rebellious feminist, which is why a lot of them will throw actual lesbians under the bus with phrases like "I'm a lesbian, not a homosexual" or opposing Lesbians (polilez) to born-this-way lesbians (actual lesbians). It's not that different from men in dresses claiming they're more womanly than actual women.

A lot of fakebians/polilez call themselves lesbians as an excuse to do behaviors they would normally consider antisocial (being "ugly", being mean, being lazy, being selfish, being predatory, cheating on their husband with a woman, abandoning their children, etc.) Remember that to a lot of them real female homosexuality is a myth, so for them identifying as lesbian is just as real as identifying as a witch or a gremlin. It's to scare people! This type of fakebian completely changes behavior and personal style depending on their bi/fakebian phase (they'll usually justify coming back to male attraction and good behavior with therapy or "healing their feminine energy" or things like that). Other fakebians simply decide to identify as lesbians once they consider themselves too old or ugly to attract men.

I've also read from an ex-fakebian that, for traumatized bi women, the "I'm a lesbian but I sometimes feel attraction to men" cognitive dissonance is easier to bear than "Men have hurt me over and over again but I still desire them". The comphetbian cognitive dissonance is even easier to bear when they are surrounded by enablers who call comphet every time (so it doesn't count! Don't think about it! Keep dissociating and repressing! :D) and silence anyone who says differently.

I've been thinking about something else recently, that some bi women have a conversion therapy/corrective rape fetish towards lesbians. Maybe not outright, but they get a kick out of calling themselves lesbians while feeling attraction to men. They laugh at lesbians who are upset about them. They'll lie about being a gold star on dating apps to hook up. They'll make content about being a lesbian with many male exes, being a lesbian with an exception, about going from man-hating liberal lesbian to heterosexual tradwife, etc.

There are plenty of reasons and they're all bad 💀

[lesbianp1lled]

Funny how “biphobia” is just lesbians not dating bisexuals out of a personal preference but lesphobia is like. Family kicking you out of a house. Men attacking lesbians in public because he wanted them to kiss for them (this is a real incident that happened in my home city london btw). Lesbians getting sent to psych wards and conversion therapy. Lesbians getting bullied. The list goes on.

Let’s be real, your “biphobia” is NOTHING compared to what lesbians have to deal with.

[youn8ss-2]

But hey remember, they’re not privileged and gay people oppress them.

If someone else setting boundaries is oppressive to you then you have no idea what oppression and discrimination truly is.

[bdelloid-rotifers]

Lesbians "oppressing" bi women is not getting dates and not wanting to hear about their boyfriends. Meanwhile bi women bait lesbians to be raped by their husbands and bring men to lesbian spaces. And if you criticize that you get called a biphobe.

[midwestemoboyfriend]

Sentences that contradict each other

[sublimewomyn]

This is a micro example of female behavior used as marketing for male sexual exploitation.

The truth is, men intentionally use women to recruit other women into sexual exploitation. This is not because they care about either woman’s safety- it’s because women are more likely to be groomed into sexual exploitation when it’s marketed by other women.

Think of the average ad you see for egg donors. They don’t show the male CEOs of IVF and fertility clinics, they show a young college woman who made the noble choice to help families in need 😇 Ads for onlyfans or seekingarrangement show a lively young woman entrepreneur, never the cottage industry of “managers” who take a cut of the woman’s profits from sexual exploitation.

This is one reason it’s so devastating to see women support the rape economy- prostitution, porn, surrogacy, etc.,- because sadly, despite their ideological zeal, those women aren’t the ones being empowered or by their support of female commodification.

Despite women being the face of these industries, the rape economy always has men at the top of their respective industries- be they pimps, pornographers, fertility clinicians. Only women are harmed- men take on no bodily risk in a rape economy, and the profit is theirs to keep.

[midwestemoboyfriend]

This is your brain on radical feminism

[unsuspectingtoad-deactivated202]

no one said that they share no fault in any of these examples except for you. They all share fault. What was said is that they risk more for less reward than the men in these situations, who likely hold more power.

[midwestemoboyfriend]

There is no part of that response that earnestly suggests this woman bears any “fault” whatsoever to anyone with any reading comprehension skills. 100% of it was spent sympathizing with these women. And it doesn’t even make sense. Literally what is “risked” by these women unicorn hunting me. You lot saw a post about X and tried to make it about Y. The sweeping generalization you’re trying to apply here makes no sense. No woman is risking pregnancy by preying on lesbian women. Time and time again you people only give a fuck about straight women.

It’s not “devastating” to be treated like a sex object but it’s “devastating” that her man might actually be holding a gun to her head to make her do this crap? I have some oceanfront property in Oklahoma to sell you.

I really don’t give a fuck that these women only benefit somewhat from preying on lesbians whereas men could gain more. “Oh the women who do this are harmed.” She is doing the harm here, but thanks. “The men don’t let them have upper-level positions in their Preying on Lesbians Business.” As the lesbian being preyed on, so what?

I’m getting treated like crap and you people are bummed out that bi-curious women can’t treat me like crap even more. Homophobic movement for sure.

I bet if I started spouting some crap on how “you might want to be mad at how trans women treat you but they are treated like crap by the men above them so really who has the true power and who deserves our real focus here? We ALL have a common enemy 😇” you would get it

[midwestemoboyfriend]

These people will do literally anything but admit that women have agency and use it against other women. They would rather believe that men are threatening women to get them to unicorn hunt than observe the fact that lots of bi-curious/OSA/whatever women are homophobic. Instead of trying to understand the situation for what it is, she just copy and pasted another stance she has that has 0 connection to this. Women get into porn and prostitution because they need to make money to live, and this is not a legitimate “choice”, sure. They do what they have to to get by, and they are the only ones harmed by the actual encounter (fundamentally wronged and, like you said, risk of pregnancy they didn’t sign up for). Unicorn hunting is a 100% free choice that these women delight in, because it benefits themselves and the man. The unicorn hunters benefit and the lesbian is harmed. How is the unicorn hunting woman “harmed” in any way? There’s no money they’re literally just in it for the love of the game 😂 No economy to speak of. No higher business structure that results from that like with brothels, pimps, and porn. I’d love to see this evidence of “Big Unicorn Hunting” that has power levels where some people are higher positioned and others are lower. Regardless, I am shedding no tears over the fact that these women don’t have even more power over me. Priorities.

Just yapping to avoid admitting that some women are pieces of shit. These things have about as much in common as an apple and a fire truck. This is your brain when you follow a dead 1960s political movement to the T. Ever wonder why it died?

[electricsircuit-deactivated2024]

I’ve known female unicorn hunters before. They weren’t tortured into it, and they’re not powerless victims of their almighty husband. They just like breaking the boundaries of lesbians and bisexual women who are seeking women.

Sure, it’s always possible that the woman in the picture is a human trafficking victim who gets beaten every day and is kept in the basement in chains and therefore cannot be held responsible for being a creep. But when are we going to be honest with ourselves and admit that odds are she isn’t being “marketed” by a man but rather is using her free will to introduce her husband’s dick to a bunch of women who don’t want it?

She’s not being used as a marketing tool for “male sexual exploitation” she IS the exploiter. If it was me imposing my pussy on her no one would he jumping to my defense.

Also, I wish you guys knew what it was like to have every single complaint you make against a group of people with objectively more social power than you be used to imply that the more powerful group is actually the victim of the fact that they exploit you. Every bit of justified lesbian anger gets turned into a guilt trip. Supposedly men treat you this way but then you turn around and do the same shit to us. You are to lesbians what straight men are to you.

[electricsircuit-deactivated2024]

Btw in case you thought anything I said was an exaggeration people are implying that female unicorn hunters are doing what they do because their husbands are PROSTITUTING them and they have no choice because they’ll go HOMELESS.

I have been homeless and I’ve never imposed dick in lesbian spaces about it. Hope this helps!

[theoldlesbianwithcats]

I'm sick and tired of how lesbians are unable to talk about how cruel and predatory bi and het women are to us, because every time it gets warped into "um actually they're the real victims 🥺🥺🥺"

I know many lesbians (me included) who were bullied, sexually harassed or sexually assaulted by bi/het women. Guess what? Most of the time, there is no man involved at all. They just want to use us and humiliate us because they're lesbophobic and see us as inferior. Simple as that, no need to invent a tragic backstory.

[padre-conceptual]

Most women aren’t truly interested in helping lesbians. For a good portion of them, the notions of “sexual fluidity”, “every woman is a little bi/fluid” and pretending that women’s sexualities are this blurry, ever-changing and undefinable thing are really useful, as it’s something they can use to threaten men.

“If men don’t change, I’ll become a lesbian!” Is something that straight and bisexual women have repeated ad nauseam. Hell, second wave feminists wrote books about that. Opposite-sex attracted women are really comfortable with throwing lesbians under the bus and using our existence as ammo for their heterosexual troubles, and the only way they can conceive lesbianism is as somehow being tied to heterosexuality/being helpful for opposite-sex attracted women in some way. They’re not going to help you. They will only acknowledge your existence as long as it benefits them and as long as they can profit from lesbian communities and support in some way, and after that, you’re on your own. If you’re a lesbian and at any moment express discomfort in being lumped with women who are clearly opposite-sex attracted, you will be ignored at best and called some form of “bigot” at worst. There’s women who don’t do this, of course, but most of the time they won’t risk calling them out because it would result in a massive shit show for them.

Most of them don’t even truly believe that lesbians exist, deep down. They believe that lesbian women are bisexual with a heavy preference for women, and that not showing some degree of mandatory heterosexuality is “extreme” and HAS to be tied somehow to a political ideology. They just can’t wrap their heads around the fact that lesbians are repulsed by male bodies and that they can’t tolerate men sexually in any way, shape or form.

This post is talking about fauxbians and homophobic women, both of the liberal and radical feminist kind. Women who acknowledge their bisexuality but choose to date only women are not included for obvious reasons.

[vintage-bentley]

If “comphet” is real and not just another way to claim that lesbians can be attracted to men…why does nobody talk about gay men experiencing it? Wouldn’t they experience feeling attracted to fictional and/or masculine women? Wouldn’t they be talking about that and joining the conversation about “comphet”? Why would it be strictly a lesbian experience when gay men also experience homophobia? Is it possibly because it’s just a lie created by the many people who are very eager to find any way to cross women’s boundaries, and find female homosexuality to be an especially enticing boundary to cross?

[flowersbyemi]

Comphet has roots in political lesbianism. Such as that, the biggest advocates of the term were political lesbians like Adrienne Rich. I’m unsure if bi men have their own version of that. Every single defense of the term comphet undermines female homosexuality as it promotes polilez rhetoric. I see the responses to your post and I feel sick by the bisexuals who need the term comphet in order to larp as a homosexual. Fuck you fakebians. Your bi-cycle is not the same as having only same sex attraction. Fuck all the fake gays as well.

[lesbianp1lled]

What is the concept of compulsory heterosexuality ( often shortened to comphet ) and why do I not believe it is real?

Here is the wikipedia definition of comphet. As you can see, it is the theory that heterosexuality is assumed and enforced upon women. Whilst I do agree heterosexuality is assumed by a number of people ( but this is only natural for people to assume, as the majority of people are heterosexual anyway ) I am critical of Adrienne Rich saying heterosexuality is enforced. A lot of people are naturally heterosexual and this makes sense from a biological standpoint. Men being attracted to women exclusively and vice versa makes sense for the purpose of being able to create offspring, there seems to be a biological drive in a lot of people to have babies ( whilst i would argue lesbians and gay men do not have this drive at all )

For a lot of women, heterosexuality is not enforced, it is their natural sexuality. Speak to a heterosexual woman and she will gush about her partner, you can see they are genuinely attracted to men.

In some cases women are forced to get married to men, but this is the exception and the majority of women are NOT forced.

Heterosexuality, just like homosexuality and bisexuality, is natural.

As for the argument that society enforces heterosexuality and can make lesbian get into osa relationships I am critical of this. Despite pressure from family members and friends and heterosexuality being everywhere, a lesbian would not get into a relationship with a man because she knows what she wants and that is not a male. Lesbians do have autonomy over their lives in a lot of cases. Despite what some people want to believe it is not hard to figure out you are a lesbian, many lesbians I have spoken to even from the most homophobic countries say it was something they knew from a young age. Even if you don’t know it is an option to date a woman as a woman, you will know that males are not attractive to you.

[flowersbyemi]

What will the fakebians use now instead of comphet 🥺🤣🤣🤣 Oh god. They’re probably struggling to find words to describe how their past attraction to men doesn’t count.

[radsplain]

gold star lesbians no one could ever make me hate you. i love you gold star lesbians

[lesviolyn-deactivated20250214]

white bi women when u tell them that comphet was created by a political "lesbian" radfem that didn't believe in homosexuality: 😡😡😡😡😡