never been so disgusted as when I open a fanfic and the notes happily describe how they had assistance from chatgpt. like I'm sorry are you so useless that you need a lying machine to help you play with toys, something I assumed most people master in toddlerhood
As much as I like the ninajeff ship and fangirl nina, it kinda makes me upset that Jeff and Nina’s sibling dynamic was torn to shreds by misinformation. Which is another thing I will be addressing in my Nina VS The Creepypasta Fandom post.
Nina VS The Creepypasta Fandom: How A Fandom Turned An Innocent OC Into A Nightmare.
As someone who's been present within the creepypasta fandom since the 2010s, the sudden surge of Nina love within the fandom today is both amazing... and slightly irritating.
Of course, when I say "irritating," I don't mean that I hate that she has become as beloved as characters like Jeff, Toby, Eyeless Jack, etc. I more so mean that as someone who has never hated Nina and saw potential in her character. She was a perfect representation of our fandom!
A fandom that, unfortunately, would be her downfall and lead to the relentless harassment of her creator, Alegotic-twelve.
Note: It should be obvious, but just in case- PLEASE do not harass anyone mentioned below. This post is being made as a critical analysis of the creepypasta fandom, and how they treated Nina/Ale. This is NOT being made to stir up drama.
Our story would start in the year 2013, where on February 5th, the original Nina The Killer story would be posted to the creepypasta website. Technically even earlier, as Ale came up with the concept of Nina in 2011.
To summarize the original story:
Nina Hopkins is an 11-year-old girl who transfers to a new school to be closer to home
She's admires and looks up to the creepypasta jeff the killer
On her first day, she defends her younger brother Chris from bullies, leading to a violent confrontation where she attacks them
After the incident, Nina feels empowered by her actions, realizing that she liked hurting people and wanting to do it again
Nina discovers a note in her locker, someone knows about her violent act but chooses to remain anonymous and not tell anyone
Chris is kidnapped by the bullies and beaten up badly, which makes Nina further fall into her dark desires and want revenge
Nina gets another note in her her locker where her anonymous admirer apologizes for what happened to her brother, saying that she wasn't alone and that they'll "be her friend"
Picture day comes and Nina dawns her iconic outfit
Nina is once again attacked by the bullies
Bully beat down part 2
It's revealed that Jeff is the anonymous admirer
Make over time!
Nina kidnaps Claudia and kills her in her room
Nina kills her mom and her brother, tells Chris's body she's gonna kill more people
The end!
I assure you, this summary is relevant and was done for a reason.
You can read the full story yourself here!
In Ale's post I think it's time to talk about this, she explained that Nina was created because Jeff was a comfort character for her, which is something I'm sure many of us can relate to.
(Please note that English is not Ale's first language)
(There's also an interview in Spanish)
When Ale is asked why (at the time) she had abandoned Nina as a character, she explains that it was because of the staggering amount of hate she was receiving ever since the creepypasta was published.
I'm not gonna lie, reading this was absolutely heartbreaking. Ale was only thirteen years old when she created Nina, a minor for the majority of when this all happened. People were directing death threats at a child over an oc they had created for fun.
And with all of this... I don't blame Ale at all for wanting to abandon the character altogether (I'm sure it was even worse when the story first came out but these were the only stuff I could find).
So I started digging, trying to find where this hatred first started to circulate, and the best I could find were these journals on DA.
https://www.deviantart.com/alotta-stars/journal/Nina-The-Killer-485947249
https://www.deviantart.com/fireant02/journal/Nina-The-Mary-Sue-469951508
https://www.deviantart.com/fallenangelkayaxx5/journal/For-those-who-hate-Nina-the-Killer-like-me-472200933
Disgusting behavior aside, there's a frequent mention of Nina being Jeff's "fangirl."
Now, the definition of a fangirl is a girl/woman who's extremely enthusiastic over someone or something.
The fandom referred to and still refers to Nina as a fangirl... never once was she called such in the original story or by Ale herself.
The detective at the beginning calls her a "crazy fan," but even he acknowledges that she's more than that after an interview with one of the victims.
I even did a word check to confirm it. The word "fangirl" is never used.
Hell, when she finally meets Jeff, her idol, her reaction is rather calm. She doesn't freak out, or scream, or anything. Just kinda acknowledges he's there.
Now, I'd like to address something I know multiple people have said: Jeff was never a hallucination. He was always there.
He'd been watching Nina throughout the whole story, leaving notes in her locker for her to find (as mentioned in the summary). He even confirms to himself that he'd been watching her when he finally makes his appearance.
Which is why it really pisses me off that the fandom shoved Nina into the "stalker trope" and hated her for it, when Jeff was the one that was stalking her!
And there's literally no implication that either of them are "in love" or attracted to each other. If you read the scene in the original story, the interaction feels more like siblings then anything else. Very chaotic siblings at that.
Ale herself confirmed this was what their dynamic was supposed to be in a Twitter (now x) post back in 2024.
Nina's love interest was always supposed to be Eyeless Jack. They even had a kid together! (Which, in a really weird way, kinda makes them the first-ever pasta parents? 0-0)
I unfortunately couldn't find any information about the ship or Eyeless Alice (their daughter), but I did find this post on X where Ale says that she misses the ship (suggestiveness blurred lol).
So, what's the takeaway from all of this? What ruined Nina as a character?
Well... the fandom itself. Because of the misogyny that was rampant in the community back then (and still is unfortunately present today), misinformation being spread, and the mischaracterization of Nina's character.
Nina The Killer was the perfect representation of us as a community. And that point completely flew over everyone's heads. Instead, we ruthlessly harassed a minor for a character we mischaracterized so badly that we ended up absolutely loathing her.
I think we, as a fandom, owe Alegotic-twelve an apology.
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