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elon musk is officially the world’s first trillionaire
formative years? aren’t they all?
EVERYOBODY GET DOWN HES TAKING A CREATIVE LIBERTY
You guys are always like "being crushed by 10,000 tons of rock probably feels good as hell" or "being torn to pieces by hunting dogs would low key fix me" and I feel like those things would actually be unpleasant.
How about "Drinking an ice cold strawberry milkshake probably feels good as hell". Do you guys like that one.
hey sorry I snapped at you, I've just had a really hard day and [remembers focusing on myself is selfish] maybe it's your fault for provoking me?
“Put him on his knees give him something to believe in” has the exact same energy and depth of meaning as anything Hozier puts out on the regular but since it’s sung by Megan Thee Stallion no one takes it seriously. In this essay I will-
To flesh this out a little bit more: both Megan Thee Stallion and Hozier write and sing really sexual songs, but they’re different in that Hozier’s music is typically “let me worship you” while Megan’s is usually “I’m worshipping myself,” which makes all the difference because it’s an acceptance of power rather than the giving of it. He’s the sinner, she’s the saint. However, taking their difference in genres out of it, people don’t usually seem to take Megan Thee Stallion’s music seriously in comparison to Hozier because a) her lyrics are more overtly and blatantly sexual and b)she’s claiming her sexuality for herself, and that scares a lot of people. The secret, no-one-wants-to-talk-about reason is that she’s a confident black woman, which terrifies people way than sex does. In conclusion, Hozier and Megan Thee Stallion are two sides of the same poetic, sexual coin, but people just don’t want to admit it. Which is WHY a collaboration between Hozier and Megan would be so powerful that it would change the timeline as we know it yes I will elaborate
you literally have to unironically listen to some shit like party rock anthem so you don’t kill yourself
*stopping random people at the mall* look out, ok, because today was a friday thursday
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i posted these originally like 9 or 10 years ago or something but I can't find them anywhere, so now you get retortured.
feminism is about blunts and weed. its about smoking marijuana, and as much of it as you can get your hands on
like nsfw but i lowkey interpret aku as a sub top ngl primarily bc hes lazy. and his holes r trash like boo we hate ur pussy. i think dom top is a valid interpretation and i do not claim aversion to it bc it has a home in my heart but hes a queen to me. idk. anyways😊✨🌷🌈🍃🐝🌸
oh that's interesting. i sorta disagree but like in a way where i can see where you're coming from and wonder if we actually agree.
Sorry for the very long post in reply to your three-sentence casual opinion, I got too into the topic.
i love ur essay it's so thorough and in depth and genuinely rly great at elaborating on these concepts and i am so sorry for the bluntness of what im abt to say but i interpreted aku as a top bc im into tentacle stuff
but yes, absolutely i agree with ur definitions of top/bottom and dom/sub that is the same framework i based my ideas from
honestly the sub stuff for me came from things such as the character lord of darkness from the 1985 film legend, as well as the phantom of the opera. while they can be interpreted as dom, its the hopelessness of their obsession and the lengths that they go to serve someone which i rly love. more examples of inspiration are the opera bluebeard's castle, the novel jane eyre by charlotte brontë, the film dragonwyck with vincent price. i am huge on gothic literature and film so my interpretation of his character comes from these gothic tropes i am very much in love with. this even extends to include richard the iii by william shakespeare, when he proposes to lady anne and he manipulates her with this false vulnerability as he is on his knees begging her to stab him while proclaiming he killed her husband and caused her this unbearable grief because he loves her. its rly his manipulation and obsession which i am playing on when i interpret him as a sub. he is not performing tasks of submission in a traditional bdsm scene so much as he is desperate for attention and actively makes the other person's life worse by these acts of wanting. i think me saying he is a sub is more closely related to a 'brat', someone who pushes someone on purpose and is then faced with the consequences of it because thats the fun of it. he is something like a cat that bites and scratches but then on their own terms is clingy and begging for attention. i think that he can very much be both dom/sub as a switch and i love him completely either way.
but lastly i think that i advocate for sub because it's the subversion of aku's character, it is easy to look at him and interpret him as a dom and that is why it will always have a place in my heart and why i love him in that way as well. so him being a sub i think it offers an exploration to his character and how he is able to feel pain in addition to his manipulation and obsession. bc the sword is the only thing which genuinely harms him so this may be something which is entirely new for someone who otherwise has everything and can do anything
anyways thank u so very much for ur reply this is genuinely a rly fun discussion and i am glad to have been able to read ur side into it and to be able to further elaborate on how i see him 🫶 sorry i shouldv specified jaku in the beginning bc i said this originally with jaku in mind, not counting for other possible characters
i interpreted aku as a top bc im into tentacle stuff
you are the most valid person to ever exist
LOVED reading your reply !!!! more thoughts below, i love this mile long thread <3
like petplay but the "pet" is a strange wolf you found standing in your kitchen one morning after it broke in through the doggy door and you can't get it to leave. character dynamic where one character's wearing a collar and the other character's got the leash but the "collar" is just a string tied in a simple bow you can undo with one tug and the "leash" is a handcuff locked around the alleged master's wrist.
this is a VERY good analogy !!!! its very eloquently written and absolutely perfect for the idea of subbing that i had wanted to express but lacked the eloquence for. just absolutely love this paragraph thank you so much for sharing this <3
the flinging himself utterly at someone else's feet to the point it's pathetic, anything to get what he wants... but if he doesn't get what he wants, that patheticness can turn dangerous very fast. lotta overlap with the yandere archetype
this is a rly great paragraph and i cannot believe completely forgot abt the labyrinth film which i love so i rly love that you brought it up because that is a very good quote!! and also the yandere archetype, i did want to bring that up initially but i abstained because iv actually never read a yandere-specific story that i enjoyed, as well as it being a controversial kinda topic to some ppl, however i do very much acknowledge overlap and think that it is interesting and worth exploring for some characters/stories.
if aku's all cool and commanding and jack's just his helpless toy who idk develops stockholm syndrome or something, then i don't care!! make the ruler of the world beg!
absolutely abbbsoluuutely and this is unrelated but one favorite films of all time is misery 1990, based on the novel by stephen king and what is so compelling about this particular film is not the stockholm syndrome but it's the push and pull conflict between the two characters. like ur not singularly watching a man get his leg broken by a person who is nuts, ur watching the rise and fall of a man's hope and the writing of a novel he is forced to write as his an anchor to his sanity and the escalation of madness by wilkes and that is more valuable to me than a dark romance which promises such things but fails completely at this level of storytelling even though it's a very basic story on the surface it has a continually gorgeous push and pull and interior to its writing. in both the novel and the film, i love both equally. like im sorry this is unrelated rambling but that is also what i am applying to aku in my daydreams, a push and pull conflict rather than a singular fetishization
"extremely feared powerful in-control character undone by an obsessive need that knocks them off their throne and on their knees before the object of their overwhelming desire" is a top tier character trope to me.
yes this trope is SO GOOD🙂↕️🙂↕️🙂↕️and thats why i just had to mention lord of darkness from legend 1985, specifically the goldsmith cut of the film because he is pathetticcccc its sooo good 🙂↕️🤝🤝🤝🤝
I've got a friend (who i Will be linking this conversation to) who refers to The Sub Aku Experience as "master in the streets mastered in the sheets." it's about that contrast.
real meets real, the contrast is literally so important
hello yes i am The Friend :) exemplary akuposting going on here. honestly so exemplary i am simply nodding in agreement. i have no skin in the 'aku's canon top/bottom dom/sub alignment' game because i agree, he would be the dominant partner. outside matches inside, master of the sheets, nothing to see here.
however
oh i absolutely just adore the concept of oiron aku that is sincerely such a clever utilization of his character i am going nuuuutss and what is so cool about it i think is your description and inspiration of historical japan, that is such a beautiful contrast to aku's futurism while being so neatly tied into jack's sensibilities wowww🫶 i will be waiting patiently for ur art series bc that is amazinggg💕
i genuinely love how much discussion came from this silly post that i made without thinking abt anything in particular, i love the expansiveness of samjack and its interpretations and adaptations by fans still being so fresh and clever after 25 years im soo grateful for this thread fr🫶
yippee me too me too :) samjack fandom is so tiny, it's always a delight to find like-minded fans!!
it's maybe not canon at all but i do see both jack and aku as beings 'out of time'. i like to place aku's roots (harhar) strongly in historical japan, because if i do that, then they have this incredibly rich shared culture that they both yearn for in their own ways and can never describe to anyone else. and also i can get super niche with it lmao.
i have a bit of an unrelated question. are you perhaps familiar with the sondheim stage play pacific overtures? its alright if you aren't, i just got reminded of it and its original broadway cast stars aku's voice actor mako as narrator and shogun, he has particularly gorgeous voice work in this production and even speaks a few japanese lines 🫣
while i know very little japanese, i absolutely adore the video you provided she is a very skilled artist, i can absolutely imagine aku speaking in that stylization. and i am very interested in watching the film sakuran thank u so very much for sharing !!!🫶
and lastly i agree completely with aku and jack having been born from the same time, its kinda easy to forget that with aku's industrialism but thats such an incredible string that ties them together and a fascinating exploration of aku's character:)
watching the 1976 pacific overtures right now on your suggestion and i'm enjoying it very much :) i hope you enjoy me recs in return, though no pressure 🖤❤️💚
that is very sweet i am glad u are enjoying it tho it is an admittedly sometimes clunky production🫶 i just love spreading word abt mako's works beyond his voice acting. i very much look forward to watching ur rec !! 😊
okay so this got too long for the tags but that's where i wrote it out so that's why it's formatted weird
i agree with the canon aku interpretations, buuuuut, i am now thinking abt aku thinking he's a dom top, but then gets in a fight with jack and his sword, and is like ah shit why do i like this, anyway masochistic aku, but only for the specific type of pain the sword can cause, obviously jaku, i just think that'd be hot, as others have said, it's about the contrast, also the amount of trust any scene would have to have, bc that thing can kill him, bc jack is supposed to kill him, and no matter how much time passes where he's not trying to, aku is so hated, would it be a stretch for jack to change his mind?, and then wait until he was vulnerable?, and jack doesn't seem that underhanded, but aku is, so he can think of it, and it lingers, bc he knows how much pressure there is for jack to do it, and i think that fear would undermine them, but it might also change how aku acts, at least around jack, bc if he steps too wrong or pushes too hard, jack could turn on him, and he's opening himself up for the perfect bullseye, so aku's a little more careful where he's toeing, and slowly the overton window for what's 'acceptable' behavior, for what doesn't get jack all fussed, shifts, slowly very slowly, but what do they have but time?, it's not 24/7 kink, but it does affect them 24/7, idk, i think i may be playing with different dolls now, but those are my train tracks and i'm sticking to them, 'what if a sexual relationship changed you as a person', i think it's the aro in me, 'would you change for your romantic partner-' no!, 'would you change for your booty call, bc what gets you off makes you face some shit about yourself, bc you have an outlet for stuff you couldn't otherwise express?, bc you can be someone other than who you have to be-' yes!, excellent! don't see it enough!, I'm not saying sex has to have an effect on anyone, but it's fun when it does, especially separated from romance!, alright i am definitely off track now, goodnight everyone
the thread doubled jeez louise ok cracking my knuckles
@samuraijacksoff
and also the yandere archetype, i did want to bring that up initially but i abstained because iv actually never read a yandere-specific story that i enjoyed, as well as it being a controversial kinda topic to some ppl, however i do very much acknowledge overlap and think that it is interesting and worth exploring for some characters/stories.
it's an archetype i'm picky about too, it's gotta hit just the right balance of horror and romance without tilting into "teehee your girlfriend wants to murder you isn't that sooo cute?" A fulfilling yandere can't just be a manic pixie dream girl with a knife. i think the one traditional yandere character i deeply enjoyed was trope codifier Yuno Gasai from Future Diary, and in large part it's because the show makes pains to demonstrate how that level of obsession is a result of things going terribly wrong in the yandere's life, rather than just a default state of being; and that the heart of the obsession is the obsession itself, not the love interest—the actual love interest is irrelevant/interchangeable, what matters is having someone to focus fully on. Best exploration of yandere psychology rather than just unquestioningly taking large facets of the trope for granted. but i digress,
absolutely abbbsoluuutely and this is unrelated but one favorite films of all time is misery 1990, based on the novel by stephen king and what is so compelling about this particular film is not the stockholm syndrome but it's the push and pull conflict between the two characters.
oh my god I'd never conceived of some alternate timeline where misery was written as a "dark romance," i shudder in horror at the very thought. BUT YES push and pull conflict is v compelling
yes this trope is SO GOOD🙂↕️🙂↕️🙂↕️and thats why i just had to mention lord of darkness from legend 1985, specifically the goldsmith cut of the film because he is pathetticcccc its sooo good 🙂↕️🤝🤝🤝🤝
adding to my "to watch" list.
@shogunofyearning we've already talked about oiran aku so much that i don't have anything new to directly say to that part of the conversation lmfaooo so let me offer a blanket 👍👍👍👌👌👌🫶🫶🫶
it's maybe not canon at all but i do see both jack and aku as beings 'out of time'. i like to place aku's roots (harhar) strongly in historical japan, because if i do that, then they have this incredibly rich shared culture that they both yearn for in their own ways and can never describe to anyone else. and also i can get super niche with it lmao.
i like the idea of them being like,, the same but also different on that front. they are both from the same time, they both share a history that nobody else can share, they both understand and remember things forgotten to the rest of the world—but that's the only world jack knows whereas aku has lived all the time between then and now. jack is out of time while aku is of another time. he's not displaced in the same way jack is; but his roots are growing from the same time/place as jack's roots.
so to jack aku is the only thing familiar, the only thing in this strange world that is of his own world; whereas to aku jack is something nostalgic, a resurrection of a world that died long ago to the passage of time. to jack, seeing aku is like wandering around in a strange foreign country and suddenly seeing a fast food joint that exists in your home country; while to aku, seeing jack is like suddenly running into a restaurant from a fast food chain you thought went bankrupt and closed all storefronts when you were a kid. there's that shock of ecstatic Recognition but it's rooted in slightly different experiences.
but like. a rec i would actually give for understanding what i'm going for with oiran aku would be the film sakuran, from 2006, which is a highly melodramatic visual feast about an edo-period oiran's rise and fall.
Reminding me that i also still haven't gotten around to seeing this, bumping that higher up my to-watch list.
@samuraijacksoff
i have a bit of an unrelated question. are you perhaps familiar with the sondheim stage play pacific overtures? its alright if you aren't, i just got reminded of it and its original broadway cast stars aku's voice actor mako as narrator and shogun, he has particularly gorgeous voice work in this production and even speaks a few japanese lines 🫣
ALSO adding this to my to-watch list,,,
and lastly i agree completely with aku and jack having been born from the same time, its kinda easy to forget that with aku's industrialism but thats such an incredible string that ties them together and a fascinating exploration of aku's character:)
ty for mentioning the industrialism because YESS that contrast in aku's character!! this ancient thing with this futuristic society, and yet he himself seems detached from the future he's built. he's still living in what looks like the same tower he was in during jack's time. never redecorated that thang. super compact super polluted cities are the hallmark of his rule but does he live in them? and rub elbows with the commoners?? NO he lives out in his country estate, far away from the filthy city! *picture of 1000-foot-tall 50-foot-wide tower in a giant desolate crater. country estate.* dude barely seems to know what a computer is. tech for thee but not for me. this how he made the world and he doesn't even seem to like it.
i just love spreading word abt mako's works beyond his voice acting.
speaking of which, if there's anyone in this threat who hasn't yet seen conan the barbarian...
@hauntedpersonguy
i am now thinking abt aku thinking he's a dom top, but then gets in a fight with jack and his sword, and is like ah shit why do i like this
"guy who thinks he's big tough dom always in charge shocked and horrified to realize he's extremely turned on by being smashed to the ground, brutally roughed up, and stripped of all power" is hot as hell and the bigger and tougher the "dom" is the hotter it gets. i'm smacking the table. write that fic.
'would you change for your romantic partner-' no!, 'would you change for your booty call, bc what gets you off makes you face some shit about yourself, bc you have an outlet for stuff you couldn't otherwise express?, bc you can be someone other than who you have to be-' yes!, excellent! don't see it enough!
speaking as both an ace and an aro one of the most annoying romance tropes is when characters are like "oh i changed for love ♡" *looks at the story* *zero romantic chemistry in sight* *it's literally only lust* *they're trying to pass off pure undiluted lust like it's the same thing as romance*, so like,, a story that's HONEST about "no actually i changed for lust, i chased what made me horny and it shifted something in me" is v refreshing in contrast to trying to pass off something that's clearly void of romance like it's romantic.
... and it's also v sexy. but that might be the corruption kink lover in me. "is the weird sex liberating your true desires or perverting & warping your desires?" why don't we have both :)
anyway i think jack could corrupt aku. i believe in him. i may or may not have 1 or 2 or 50 brainstormed-never-to-be-written AUs involving some variation on that theme.
@hauntedpersonguy
rly loved ur paragraph and i agree completely !! unfortunately i do not have much more to add tho bc a lot of it mirrors ckret2's reply, thank u for sharing it was great to read !!!! 🫶