Hello, I am pro-endo, BUT! I’m going to be calm and mature and give my idea on why endogenic systems exist. I am aware of the ToSD btw and I do agree with it, but I do have an analogy for it below:
Imagine a Plate represents a young child’s mind. As the person grows up, the plate will reinforce itself and become a singlet. However, sometimes trauma may inflict the plate and leave markings, enough of those markings will begin to leave a growing crack, and eventually shatter, causing DID or OSDD systems. My idea of an endogenic (or more commonly willogenic) system forming is when a singlet decides to draw barriers on their plates and separate different parts of the plates into, well, headmates of the system! Headmates may also share parts of barriers in the matter of similar personalities or whatnot. The Plate may also send mental copies of its headmates to other systems briefly to represent systemhopping.
Even if a system didn’t form because of trauma, the system may still have trauma from the past and may assign those traumatic memories to certain parts of the plate. They also may take other roles too, like protecting the system from outside harm (protectors), helping deal with day to day life and many other things!
Even people with DID/OSDD can have endogenic originating headmates too if they decide to willo up their own headmate for whatever task they need (access to that headmate will be locked behind that specific fragmented part though, so it could be a subsystem, but that’s up to the shstem itself to decide.)
Second to last thing I would note is that Endogenic (+ related) systems are not pretending to have DID/OSDD or other CDDs. They are simply indulging in the concept of being a system as a whole, since I’m pretty sure some people with DID/OSDD do not identify as systems, so I believe the concept is separate.
And to finish it off, nobody is really the brain police, nobody can control your thoughts and how you decide to use them really.
If you would like to argue about anything I said, I am open to it, thanks for your time :>
Before I start anon this is not aimed at you, you are lovely for being kind :3
Admittly there are two reasons why I call myself endo critical:
The community has a common ground of stepping on CDD systems. I have experienced this often times, I have my CDD system term blog and I prefer to keep those terms for CDD systems yet I've had endos say they will use them anyways. (Ive also stated that I acknowledge I cannot stop endogenics from using my terms I just prefer to not know) Ive also been sent death threats, been called ugly, been told to kys, ect. I acknowledge not all endos are like this, per this ask, but I am critical of the community due to the ones I have encountered being aggressive. This also why I prefer to stay out is Syscourse since it has only led me down a rabbit hole of being threatened, on BOTH ends I must say.
Endogenics often refuse resources. I have sent resources so some in the past, yet I have been straight up ignored in favor of their own. Theres also been times that Ive been blocked for giving resources one asked for.
Don't consider myself pro as I don't believe it is the correct description/the current description is harmful to systems.
If anything it's closer to IFS, but long term, if endos used different terms id be more comfortable.
HOWEVER!! I DO Acknowledge that not all endos are negative as well. My main belief has been that endos and antis talk about two different things, and end up in arguments over it.
Since I'm pro science, Ill talk from a medical lens. Endos DO have some form of identity disturbance, as identity disturbance is described as an instability in self image. Endos also often describe how their alters can make them better or worse depending on what the alter holds.
Also labeling emotions is common, endos seem to have a very advanced way of doing it + it's is recommended.
Like anon said we cannot tell them what they are experiencing because we are not in their head.
And I wont deny anyone their experiences, unless it's harmful and starts stepping into other peoples lives.
We shouldn't also be getting into arguments over things and I see both sides. Just critical due to the hatred I've received.
I'm very live and let live :)
Honestly if any pro endos wish to comment on this you may i uh. Might tag this as pro endo.. Dunno.. Maybe.. Fear..
