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since I'm sad about She-ra and the princesses of power being taken off netflix, in no particular order here are the 10 most iconic episodes -Save the Cat -Corridors -the Heart Part 1 -The Heart Part 2 -Princess Prom -Promise -Destiny Part 2 -Remember -The Portal -Hero

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i conducted research in my rewatch of heated rivalry and counted how many times they say fuck in each episode:

(note this is only for spoken dialogue, not if it appears in an onscreen text) Episode 1: 32 times

Episode 2: 53 times

Episode 3: 29 times

Episode 4: 25 times

Episode 5: 37 times

Episode 6: 43 times

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anyone else get sad that based on the original canon, Mike and Vanessa don't get to see Bloom graduate because they can't go to Alfea because they aren't magical beings? cause i do

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lil snippet of the newest chapter of The Politics of the Magic Dimension:

Bloom turned to head back towards her parents when she nearly ran into another woman. 

“Oh I’m sorry,” Bloom said, trying to avoid spilling her drink. When she looked up she realized the girl looked uncannily like Bloom, like what she would have looked like in a universe to the left.

She appeared to be about the same age. She also had red hair, but instead of it being fiery red like Bloom’s, it leaned more towards a strawberry blonde, while still distinctively red. The girl also had blue eyes, but instead of the bright blue Bloom had, the woman’s were a soft gray blue. 

Trying to appease the awkward situation, Bloom felt the best thing to do would be to introduce herself.

“Hi there, I’m Bloom, from Sparx, the princess there actually.” Wow Bloom, so smooth! A+ Madame DuFour would totally be proud of how she botched that introduction. Unsurprisingly, the woman standing across from her looked thoroughly unimpressed.

“I know who you are,” the woman replied cooly.

“Well then I think you have me at a disadvantage, because I don’t believe I know your name.” Bloom said, trying to smooth over the awkwardness.

“I am Princess Varanda of Callisto.” And now why did that name sound familiar?

“Oh! You were supposed to attend Alfea, and were supposed to be my friends’ roommate. I took your place at Alfea after you decided not to go!”

https://archiveofourown.org/works/44102169/chapters/175878786

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The Selection Characters as Maisie Peters Songs (and the lines that made me associate the song with them)

America: Holy Revival, "Last year, I had to focus on survival/My ex was a bitter man, middle child/Oh dear, oh wow, now I'm in my holy revival"

Maxon: Adore You "So good that now I'm hoping/You'll hold me down for life/I adore, I adore, I adore you"

Kriss: Villain "If she's the girl of your dreams/The best thing you've ever seen/Well, what does that make me then?/I'm your villain"

Elise: Good Enough "I was good, just wasn't good enough/I never said I was perfect/Just thought I was perfect for you"

Celeste: Smile "No more Mrs. Sweet and Miss Nice/No more Mrs. Fuckin' Polite/Time for Mrs. Takin' What's Mine/You don't need him"

Marlee: Funeral "I want you to want me when you're dead/To roll in your grave like we're not done yet/To call off the whole damn funeral/Because our love is so damn beautiful"

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I literally have an entire essay on Eddie and his Narrative isolation in progress, (It's mostly just editing it and me debating if I want to insert the 8x14-8x16 drama into it at this point) and I completely agree with you - I love the detail you put into this about which characters would have conversations with which characters in each season.

If you don't mind me chiming in, what's really interesting is that you can see Eddie's isolation in particular with Ravi - all the main firefighting characters have a meaningful interaction with Ravi in season 5, excluding Chimney, who has it in 6. But that's 2 years of Ravi being on the show and every character getting to have some meaningful interaction with him except Eddie, where it has been 4 years since Ravi started on the show and not one single meaningful interaction between the two of them. (They had the potential in 8x16, but alas they did not take it.)

Yes exactly with your point about Ravi! I didn't include him in my original post because he is not technically a main but based on how much Chimney and Ravi talk to each other in 6x14 (which is such a great Chimney episode I need to say) if you add up all the amount of time Chimney and Ravi have one on one conversations, I feel it would be very similar to the amount of time Eddie and Chimney have had in one on one conversations.

And like every other 118 character minus Buck, Eddie only really talks to Ravi at work. In fact, I think 8x16 was the first time Ravi and Eddie ever had a conversation just the two of them. I literally just checked youtube searching "911 Eddie and Ravi" to see what came up and every single scene had Buck in it, and more than half of what came up didn't even have Eddie in it.

It just mind boggling how little time the show has put in to actually developing Eddie's relationships with the majority of the main cast or with frequent reoccurring guest stars like Ravi.

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I've been seeing some of the discourse that Eddie is currently not being treated like a main character, and it made want to share what I was thinking for awhile, which is that this isn't new to season 8 even if it feels more obvious now.

My biggest 911 hot take is that Eddie Diaz is the main character who is the worst integrated into the found family dynamic.

You might be saying, "how? he is in the 118, the 118 is a found family!"

I raise you that Eddie really only talks to two members of the 118, Buck and Bobby.

Eddie doesn't have his first one on one conversation with Hen until 2x13, 13 episodes after Eddie joins the 118. Chimney and Eddie don't have a one on one conversation until SEASON 3. Everyone jokes that Eddie never interacts with Maddie, which is true, but I also cannot think of a single time Eddie has had a one on one conversation with Athena.

Let's compare that to the rest of the cast. Every season you can count on:

Buck having a one on one conversation with: Eddie, Maddie, Bobby, Hen, and Chimney. (Athena? I can't think of a one on one conversation they had a conversation in season 7 but they do every other season)

Hen having a one on one conversation with: Chimney, Bobby, Athena, Buck, Karen Bobby having a one on one conversation with: Buck, Athena, Chimney, Hen, Eddie

Chimney having a one on one conversation with: Maddie, Hen, Bobby, Buck Athena having a one on one conversation with: Bobby, Hen, Maddie, and maybe Buck. (see above note.)

Maddie having a one on one conversation with: Buck, Chimney, Athena

And then you get to Eddie, and the only people you can count on him having a one on one conversation with are Buck, Bobby, and Chris.

Don't believe me? Try going to youtube and searching "911 Eddie and Hen" or "911 Eddie and Chimney" or "911 Eddie and Athena" you get maybe two scenes only of each pairing and every other result either has a ton more people in the scene, or is missing one of the characters you searched.

The show tells us Eddie is a part of the found family but they don't show it. He almost never speaks to members of the 118 (besides Buck) outside of the firehouse. He doesn't even interact with the members of the main cast who aren't in the 118.

Anytime they show us Eddie participating in a hobby that he supposedly does regularly, it is something specifically shown away from the rest of the found family, like the poker game, or basketball (which they say Chim doesn't go to often), or even his hobby montage in season 6.

Nearly all of Eddie's storylines take place away from the 118, and have to do with his family or something unrelated to every other character. So in a sense he just feels detached. Somehow, because they only really talk at work, and even then still mostly on calls, Eddie seems like a coworker friend to Hen and Chim, instead of the member of the found family he is supposed to be.

There have been so many opportunities for Eddie to talk to other characters that never get used. Why didn't we get a scene about Hen and Eddie talking about what it means to get shot as a bystander, and what that trauma means? If that's part of Hen's backstory, it is right there for them to have an actual conversations about how they have dealt with a very specific event! Why haven't Chimney and Eddie talked about being parents in a high risk job? Or when Maddie was getting treatment for postpartum depression, talk about (temporarily in Chim's case) unexpectedly becoming a single parent?

The best Hen and Eddie content we get is in season 5 when they are temporary partners, and even that only lasts a couple episodes, and their conversations are almost entirely work related. Once Eddie goes to dispatch, they barely talk again.

Let's put this a different way, if you watched 911 only through Buck scenes you'd have a pretty good sense of every single character. If you watched only Bobby scenes, you'd have a good sense of every 118 character and Athena. But if you only watched Eddie scenes, you'd get a good sense of Eddie and Buck, and a decent sense of Bobby, but barely anything on any other character.

And that is a problem when you are trying to say he is just as integral to the found family as everyone else. The show tells us this, but we don't see it. I can think of one time Eddie and Hen hung out and had a conversation outside of work, in season 3 the Christmas episode when Buck is helping Christopher and Denny make gingerbread houses. I can't think of a single conversation between Chimney and Eddie that takes place outside of work.

People get attached to characters through their relationships, that's why shipping is a big deal, and most likely, your favorite character in the show is part of your favorite ship of the show.

One of the reasons Buck is so popular as a character is because he interacts with everyone and no matter who your favorite character is you will see him have a meaningful relationship with them.

It's frankly ridiculous that Eddie has been on the show for over 100 episodes and if you compiled all of the Eddie and Hen one on one conversations or all the Eddie and Chimney conversations, it would probably barely (if at all) last the length of one episode.

Eddie has been sidelined from day one on this show, it may not be as obvious as it is now, but the show has never done the work to fully integrate him into the found family dynamic. He is constantly isolated in the way that he is written, even when they aren't trying to isolate him as a character. This isn't new, and the disconnect between how we are told Eddie fits in with the found family versus what we are shown has honestly been one of my biggest frustrations with his character.

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given the current state of things:

Should 911 have ended with season 6 after Fox cancelled it?

Yes

No, but season 7 should have been the last season

No, season eight should be the last season

No, the show should continue running indefinitely

Voting ended onMay 9, 2025

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ever since 8x15 aired I can't get this awful thought out of my mind that part of the reason they killed off Bobby and effectively fired Peter Krause (who was the second billed cast member) was for financial reasons and to have more room in the budget.

911 is an expensive show, Fox cancelled it in season 6 despite it being the top show on the network because it is so expensive to produce. Same thing happened to Lone Star, it had the highest ratings on the network and it was cancelled because it was too expensive to produce, and they were already trying to avoid paying their actors (hence Sierra McClain leaving the show because they wouldn't pay her what she deserved)

tim minear has this stupid fantasy of these big emergencies that cost a lot of money, the cruise ship, the beenado, the plane crash, every fucking helicopter scene. None of this cheap.

we've already seen the show try and skimp out on things that cost money, in my opinion that's why we've seen less emergencies in each episode because it costs a lot of money to keep having guest stars, so if you can spend less by having the 118 respond to one emergency as opposed to 3 an episode, who cares if it limits the emotional growth and formula of the show? Let's do a two parter! it's easier to only have 3 guest actors participating in our emergency than responding to 4 emergencies that involve 2 people each!

In my opinion that's why most of the recurring guest cast has barely made an appearance since the move to ABC, because if someone is recurring they get paid more than a one off guest star. That's why we have barely seen Sue or Linda or Lou Ransome and all the other beloved side characters, and instead we got Karen, Tommy and Gerard being essentially the only reoccurring guest stars the past two seasons despite past seasons having a far more reoccurring characters.

Additionally could be part of the reason why we are losing sets left and right because the sets were expensive to maintain, goodbye buck's loft, goodbye bathena house, and look! by burying bobby in Minnesota we don't have to carve out money to regularly have scenes at his grave! The less sets, the better.

Firing Peter Krause gives the show an extra $300,000 to use an episode that can go to more explosions or helicopters or more blockbuster dupes that are much harder to translate well to a TV screen.

And when 911 Nashville comes along, it's a lot cheaper to pay actors at the beginning of a show when it's just starting out compared to when the show has been running longer and the actors have stronger bargaining power.

I don't think finances are the only reason they killed Bobby off, but it's hard to look at the choices being made by the show and think they weren't looking for a way to save some money with a bold decision. And if they bring on a new cast member to replace Bobby on the team? they can pay that person a whole lot less than they were paying Peter Krause.

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i have a lot of thoughts on this but tim minear is a terrible show runner solely for the fact that it seems his entire goal is to appear smarter that his audience and to mess with them like we are some sort of toy for him to fuck around with

like i'm sorry, it is incredible uncaring to your audience to lay out all these clues (including behind the scenes content!) that this was a fake out only to have the main plot of the episode (and don't even get me started on how we really only got to see chimney and athena's grief because of the focus on this plot) was about a woman believing someone she loved wasn't really dead only for him to actually be. it's toying and making fun of your audience which is frankly rude and shows you don't value them as the people who make you successful.

the whole time he has been back as show runner it has felt like a massive ego trip, it basically felt like:

"see how funny i am with my meta jokes about firefighter tv show"

"wow you don't like the kim storyline? guess you are just uncultured and have never seen the classic film vertigo..."

"i am a benevolent god what i say goes even if it doesn't make sense"

he has no respect for what made the show succeed, he just wants to pull one on the audience and i find that frankly to be cruel and not worth giving him any more attention

i will not be watching any more 911 nor will i watch any properties tim minear will work on in the future

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Fuck it i don't even care at this point 911 ended when fox cancelled it after season 6.

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does tim minear know that by killing bobby nash he is also killing thousands of babies who are saved by bobby's magic blood???

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I don't think I can genuinely express how much of a fuck you this was to the audience. Part of the joy of 911 is that these characters have extreme plot armor and figure out ways to get out of the situation they are in, often by relying on their found family.

And this just destroyed that.

Also, Bobby is one of two main characters who has individual scenes with every main character of the show, he is quite literally the glue and the show does not work without him.

They have until the end of the season to fix this or show it was a fake out or I am absolutely done with this

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genuinely though how do you keep owen strand alive and kill bobby nash

fuck this

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say what you will about kristen reidel but she never would have fucking killed off bobby nash

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i NEED a yellowjackets edit to defense from we are the tigers

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Chapter 5 of The Politics of the Magic Dimension is up

Stella tries (and fails) to uphold propriety rules and evaluates her friends fashion choices.

https://archiveofourown.org/works/44102169/chapters/161066158