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Discourse topic #137: if I write a story about a human and a space alien having sex, but the space alien's version of sex is so esoteric that the human is literally incapable of understanding or experiencing it as such and therefore cannot meaningfully consent, do I need to tag for noncon?

headspace-hotel

I think its bestiality, but for the alien...? Maybe dubcon.

headspace-hotel

nevermind I rescind my initial judgment

there are several followup questions

Is the sex an activity comprehensible to humans, that the human doesn't experience as sexual? E.g. sex is some kind of elaborate ritual that involves walking behind a waterfall 3 times with a sacred flame and then whacking each other with pool noodles. In that case, it's a matter of whether or not the alien discloses that it's a sex thing.

Or, is it an activity that literally can't be explained to the human beforehand because there is no human analog for it? In this case, the human can't consent to the activity because they can't comprehend what it is.

I think it could be further subdivided based upon whether the problem is an inability for the alien to explain/communicate the activity itself, or an inability for the alien to explain/communicate what the activity means.

Wait, is that a further subdivision, or did I just say the same thing twice?

I mean okay, I think "inability to explain/communicate what the activity means" might refer to a couple things as well: either the inability to communicate that the thing is a sex thing from the alien's POV, or the inability to explain/communicate what it will or might feel like from the human's POV.

The first one would be like the pool noodle situation above, but the second one would be like, something incomprehensible happens that is experienced as intimate or potentially violating.

Needs more thought...

troublepunk-ldn

I think you can consent to something that can't be fully explained in advance.

If the alien says "This is a sex thing to me, and i cannot describe how it will feel to you/in your language, but it is intimate/intense/potentially violating", then it's perfectly valid consent to say "Go ahead anyway, I'll stop you if I don't like it."

headspace-hotel

This is my thought as well...

patrickrennie

zizicat

laterovaries-deactivated2017022

This will always be my favorite gifset. Ever.

onceuponamirror

im morally obligated to reblog this every time i see it

holylulusworld

It’s back on my dash. 😂

redd956

Worldbuilding Writing & Reference: The Woods

Forests are sacred things. As humans, many cultures have grown up side by to side our local forests, creating an extensive connection we hold to the wilderness, whether it be the biodiverse rainforests of the Americas, or the twisting wetlands of the United Kingdom. Despite how much of our history is tied to the woods, many of us now grow up completely detached to the environments that still find their place in our everyday life.

I love worldbuilding forests. The forest is a liminal space. It is the entryway to the world of fairies, the dark and mysterious home to the wolves of old fairytales, and a source of life to Native American tribes that looked upon the stars and told stories to one another with the forest animals as their characters.

To this day we rely on forests all around the world. Despite the fact, that they're diminishing in territory, without the forests our planet would die, depriving itself of oxygen. We would have no paper and no wood. We would lose a variety of food sources. We would lose precious shade that protects our dirt. We would lose the anchors that keep our waterline cities from flooding.

These are things I think of when creating a fantasy forest, because I am possibly creating the source of life to a civilization, or the stage to a great story.

A Source For Everything

Compared to certain sections of deserts, mountains, and plains, the forest has more unique resources to human needs. Rivers, bayous, lakes, springs, and wetlands provide water. Trees provide a versatile material. Berries, fruit, herbs, and even certain roots provide forgeables. Lots of animals provide food (or even show potential for domestication). The forest canopy provides shelter, although not perfect.

floralynn-arts

Don't worry guys, he's alright in the Umbra.

Reference if you want something similar:

And yes, I made Marck's head smaller because I need to live my "Big boxy body Marcky" truth.

gotham-at-nightfall

Fools- 40k fan comic

By Reclusiart

inquisitor-edgelord

into the fires of battle......

His Angels

Artist: @mick19988 (twitter)

https://twitter.com/Mick19988

coworker and i were going back and forth with inappropriate, grimderp 40k humor. i mention kriegers under the bed. he shows me this, waiting expectantly for my soul to crumble. it was on my mind all day. amazing story, just fucking devastating. fucking salamanders, what did you do to my heart?

it's funny, with just the first 2 panels it can still be played for laughs by keeping the emotion at a distance. then the rug is pulled out from under you and you're beaten not with the rug but a hammer.