Here’s the deal:
Aligning yourself with men’s rights ‘activists’ is spitting in the face of women and feminism everywhere. Men are not oppressed by the system, they are privileged by it. Men’s rights was started as a reaction by petty, insecure men who felt that the degradation of women was intregal to preserving their masculinity. It is mocking the movement that gave me the right to own property, to vote, to be an autonomous person, something men have never had to fight for. It is founded on the basis of keeping women down. That is the fundamental difference between feminism and meninism; feminism was built on the concept of building women up and gaining equality. Meninism was built on the basis of keeping women down and maintaining a hierarchy.
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This is the biggest strawman I’ve ever seen. You need to research what you’re talking about. Not harassment or anything, just saying that you’re wrong.
I have. And I have provided my reasons for thinking this way. MRAs are an insult to people fighting for their humanity and they are largely run by misogynists. I can provide my work cited if you’d like.
If you do cite it, it’s still a strawman. If you dont know what that is, it’s a logical fallacy in which someone misrepresents and lies about someone’s views or agreement to make it easier to attack. Which is clearly what you’re doing. The MRM is founded on actual issues that can be seen today. Nothing mysoginistic about it.
I know what a strawman is. And I disagree. Regardless, they often try and make feminism out to be an oppressive movement rather than inclusive. Of course this debate is largely interpretive and there is very little objectivism that can be applied.
But you’ll refuse to see any merit from the MRM and acknowledge your use of a logical fallacy. I’m honestly sick and tired of being called a sexist and a mysoginist for merely criticizing feminism. Even though I don’t think feminism is evil and oppressive, the accusations still fly. You should watch Rachel Moore’s video “How to be a Feminist”. I’ve actually talked to her, and I told her that I’m an MRA, she’s not a bit as combative as you are. She’s actually open minded unlike you. Not a single cry of sexism from her.
I have never called you sexist or misogynistic. I have not attacked you, and I have not fought you. In fact, you have not actually made an argument or given any points. You’ve merely said you disagree with my opinion. Don’t put words in my mouth, and don’t assume you know me. I am not going to stand here and defend my open mindedness.
You said and I quote “Anyone who aligns themselves with men’s rights ‘activists’ is spitting in the face of women and feminism everywhere.” I associate with them, therefore I spit in the face of women everywhere. Right?
Did I call you sexist? Did I call you misogynist? Nope. But, I will say that I believe MRAs are a mockery of feminism and I will stick by that statement. There is no question that women are oppressed, that women are in danger and that women are treated poorly in the majority of sectors of the world. When men come around and say that they are being oppressed, they are grossly misinterpreting the meaning of oppression. That is my opinion. That is how I see it. You may disagree with me and that is your prerogative.
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