No dni except for dni syscourse, shipcouse, radqueers/transID and jerks. (We’ll just block freely.)
All systems are welcome here!!
Bodily an adult. Collectively aroace and nonbinary (with nuances ofc). Half Colombian and a quarter Spanish. (We weren’t raised ethnic but those parts of our identity still matter/exist. Trying to rediscover our cultural roots).
Wanting to understand and discover our possible fictional caretakers &/or ficitives introject headmates &/or otherhearted kinship? Still figuring it out. We won’t talk about regression much if at all and we won’t be letting any of our non-adult system members chat online here. Thank you.
Our system deals with a lot of mental health issues/disorders so we may yap about these topics sometimes. We have a plural comic side blog for this too - dunno what we’re doing but it’s cathartic and fun. https://www.tumblr.com/pluralsoupcomics
Been trying to discover our love for science and indulge in each others interests so those may pop around here on occasion. (Reblogs and infodumps).
System members that will most likely show up below the cut.
Gouda Gruidae /🧀 🌻 (front locked Outernaut)
Churro GoldenMonkey / 🛡️🍊
Froyo Fennec / 🌺 🥊
Brioche ParadiseAvian /🐦⬛ 💎
Empanada Ectophylla / ⚙️ 🎶
Cheesecake SpottedLamb / 🐑 🪲
Hazelnut Tenebricosa / 🪞🛋️
Zest Kaleidoscope / 🌱 🦋
Ube Sashimi / 🥁 🎏
Lasagna Labrador / 🪡 🥞
Starfruit DragonOx / 🥢 🐉
Toffeebar Aptenodytes / ♟️ 🧩
Thyme MoonJelly / 🍀 ☁️
Brisket Tremarctos / 🌼 🐻
Kohakutou LemonShark / 🍋 🌧️
Frenchtoast Plántanos Fratercula / ☀️ 🌙
(Constellation Council collectively 🌌 )
Fandom inspired/kin/fictional ct/idk man
Danny Phantom fandom(not canon), Lego Ninjago, Batfamily fandom (not canon), Very select few Undertale AU’s, Steven Universe, The Owl House, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles(03,12,19) Avatar the last Airbender, Hilda, Spiderverse, Heartstopper, Trollhunters, How to train your dragon (race to the edge in particular), Camp Cretaceous/Chaos Theory, Ducktales, Gravity Falls, Moon Girl & Devil Dinosaur, Craig of the Creek, Mob Psycho 100, Frieren, Fullmetal Alchemist, Astro Boy, Dr. Stone, My Hero Academia, Ultraman rising, Coco, Encanto, and more to come I’m sure lol.
Plural comic blogs / system blogs we enjoy roaming :3
@changelingcoded
@semiplural
@wizardsoftheroundtable
@orangerysystem
@inchwormcircus
@mynd-art
@oursystemblog
@orchardsys
@quest-system
@snowcloudsystem
@wo1vespack
@compact-metro
@bubblegum-bros-sys-deactivated2
@labyrinthwalkers
@theseus-system
@helixrainn
@a-comic-about-plurality
@the-clockwork-mirrors
@20clownsinatrenchcoat
@a-mosaic-of-stars
@poetry-of-snails
@depressedquetzal
@mundane-plurality-is
@daily-plural-questions
@positivitygenic
@plural-questioning
@multiplicity-positivity
@pluralskeepliving
Moots (lemme know if you guys want us to untag ya’ll)
no i’m not obsessed with that character because of romantic or sexual attraction. I am obsessed because they’re my little silly. my best friend. my pal.
Something that always bothers me in mental health spaces is the fear of relating too much to each-other across the lines of different disorders. Too many times I've met people who are not dissociative systems, but have dissociative experiences (such as from BPD), and they trip over themselves saying "no no, I mean, I don't REALLY understand what you go through, my thing is totally different," and it makes me a little upset. Disorders are just clusters of symptoms packaged together in a certain way, that's why the names and criteria often change across DSM and ICD editions, and viewing them as entirely exclusive clubs where only they could possibly understand anything about each other isn't a particularly healthy way of seeing it. The lines between disorder labels are blurrier than you think. You are not being a bad person or overstepping for relating to symptoms of a disorder, or people with a disorder, without having their specific label. Very rarely (if ever, frankly) is there a symptom that can only occur in one disorder, or even one type of disorder. Psychosis can occur in countless circumstances. Dissociation and identity compartmentalization can occur in countless circumstances. It's better to focus more on your specific symptoms and building community with your fellow neurodivergent people, using the resources that help you regardless of if they were specifically made for your diagnosis, over worrying about whether or not you're "allowed" to relate to something or experience something similarly to someone else.
🌺 (hibiscus) - Is there a "common" plural experience that you don't experience?
We tend to have a lot of experiences outside the "norm" if what people talk about when it comes to systems, and we don't often experience things that are "common"
-A guy
These have taken me a long time to finish answering lmao
Uhh thinking on the spot... maybe... switching hosts? I've seen many systems who have had their hosts switch in and out, and I'm a locked host so-
Other headmates have completely fronted before, but only for a short time. Otherwise, I'm always in the front room, even if it's kind of in the background
I guess another one could be the ability to go around the headspace. Because I'm front-locked, I really only spend my time in the front room. I've gotten occasional glimpses into parts of the headspace, but I've never really been able to wander around myself I don't think
Whoa, same?!! I thought I was pretty solo on this with how I’ve seen systems describe their switching experiences.
The whole being stuck in the front room and only getting glimpses of the rest of headspace is also so true for me 🙂↕️
I’ve been debating if it’s a fluid kind of memory sharing? Like, functional multiplicity - because the switches I experience aren’t as jarring or even involuntary (most of the time) then I’ve heard lots of other systems experience? I’m curious why that is for us….
Please don’t use these userboxes - they were made specifically for our system!! :3 please and thank you!! If you want your own custom userboxes to look as cool as these head on over to @the-froggy-marsh :D they do amazing work over there!!! ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️
Hello hello!! We would like to order up the Tadpole Userbox Pack please!! 1st batch of 5 Headmates! :3
Name: Gouda Gruidae
Pronouns: They/Them/Stars/Starself
Gender: Nonbinary
Orientation: Aroace
Role: Outernaut / Health
Age: Adult
Source: N/A
Personality: (letting my headmates write this cuz I just want to put down ‘idk’) Kind, thoughtful, overworked, worry wart, cares deeply, badass, sweet!
Insys Status: ??
Likes: Harmony
Dislikes: Chronic-pain-chronic-paining
Hobbies: Art / Science
(Frog:)
Sign off: This is Exhilarating, Get excited!
(Userbox aesthetic note: if sunflowers and stars could decorate it, it would be much appreciated <3)
Name: Brioche ParadiseAvian
Pronouns: They/It/Critter/Any
Gender: Genderqueer
Orientation: Aroace
Role: Protector
Age: Adult
Source: N/A
Personality: Extravagant, elegant, social, zesty,
Insys Status: ??
Likes: Jesting
Dislikes: Greed
Hobbies: Performance!!
(Frog:)
Sign off: It’s Never Too Late to Slay The Day my Dears!
(Userbox aesthetic note: gemstones, gold, and roses, it’s a very extravagant villainous vibe that you can’t help but adore!)
(Note: he actually has pale blue hair almost white - but these blondies had the design vibes lol)
Dislikes: Hard to ruffle me honestly! Cant think of anything I dislike.
Hobbies: Stand up comedy!
(Frog:)
Sign off: May valor grant you a jubilant day!
(Userbox aesthetic note: I once was a knight so if that can be incorporated somehow, ASL is very important to me too but if that’s too complicated just skip! I love blues and greens and my armor used to be white and black)
(Note: they’re blind in system! Thus the starry scars over their eyes. He is not a skeleton rest assured - but the vibes and big puffy coats match his aesthetics :)
Name: Thyme MoonJelly
Pronouns: They/He/Galactic pronouns
Gender: Agender?
Orientation: Aroace
Role: Gatekeeper
Age: N/A
Source: N/A
Personality: Whimsical, droll, jocular, cryptic,
Insys Status: ??
Likes: Naps
Dislikes: Mayo
Hobbies: Mischief
(Frog:)
Sign off: “Difficult Roads Lead to Beautiful Destinations” -unknown
(Note: Userbox aesthetic wise he’d appreciate eclipse and moons if doable!)
Name: Lasgana Labrador
Pronouns: They/Them/Ne/Nem
Gender: Nonbinary
Orientation: Aroace
Role: N/A
Age: Adult
Source: N/A
Personality: Big sap, big softie, kinda silly, means well, whimsical and oddball,
Insys Status: ??
Likes: Friendship!!
Dislikes: Burnt marshmallows :(
Hobbies: Knitting!
(Frog:)
Sign off: Oh My Banana Pancakes! 🥞
(Note: we don’t really know what they look like under the suit atm so if this get up isn’t applicable- feel free to interpret how you wish!! - I will note that they probably have heterochromia and birthmarks tho :)
(Userbox aesthetic note: pancakes 🥞 bacon 🥓 and needle/fabrics or stuffed animals 🧸 he’s very silly and full of wonder as I said :3)
Thank you!!!! And as always lemme know if we did anything incorrectly!! Take care!!
🍃 Good day to you!
🍃 We're very excited to complete all of these for you!
OHMIGOSH !!!!!!! not only are these userboxes so so so neat to see and we’re so grateful and happy!!! But the frogs?!?! AH!! They’re so cute/beautiful!!!!!! Thank you guys so much!!!! Cannot express how excited we are widifjfjfbbskdkfkfkfn 🌌/🌻, 💎, 🛡️, 🏮, 🥞,
What if I don’t ever want my headmates to go away? What if I want to live a plural life? Sure, I’ll grow and change and so will the people around me, but what if I want to choose to make space for my headmates in my life? A shared life is a life I’m willing to live.
……【Wood has a deep personal connection with nature of any kind. Bir feels most at home when outdoors, especially if clover is in a place surrounded solely by nature (i.e. forests, woods, mountains, etc.). Leaf is probably one of the most pleasant individuals you'll ever meet! Oak serves as a mediator and often does pines best to alleviate any conflict that may arise within the system as well as outside of it. Because of spruces deep connection to nature, cre has a soft spot for animals and plants alike, often becoming quite empathetic when it comes to anything involving the earth. Their ideal day consists of wandering the world's most natural spaces and taking the time to appreciate it.】
……【Littering，Logging，Enclosed Spaces，Artificial Scents (such as candles that just smell overly artificial - you know the ones)，Comics，Loud Noises，Surprises，Clubbing，Pranks，Heavy Bass，Motocross，Feeling Cooped Up】
A subset of icecreamgender in which one's gender is related to the mint chocolate chip flavoured ice cream. This can be connected to the taste, feeling, and/or aesthetic of the ice cream. This subset of icecreamgender can have a sweet and/or bittersweet feeling, much like the differing intensities of chocolate flavour. Due to this, one's gender may fluxuate in intensity and fluidity.
Okay, so I know I've done a few different reblogs, but I'm going to make my own official post about it now, so I apologize for any repeated statements or information.
Agree with me, or don't agree with me - but before anybody comes at me in my asks, I'd appreciate if you read every word of this post before fighting me on things I've already stated.
Let's take this from the beginning.
This all began with Simply Plural shutting down. The dev claimed they didn't have the energy or time to go through with it any longer, which... sure. I can understand such. But perhaps make it open code or allow someone else to take over? Especially considering how it's one of, if not solidly, the biggest plural resources out there right now. Backlash. Harassment. Uncalled for? Perhaps. However, backlash to the extent that it's happening could easily have been prevented had the dev come into this statement with answers. There were no clear answers being given.
In any case, Simply Plural is being shut down. The community asks: What's Next? What other resources are out there?
The community answers: Ampersand. Octocon.
Both have their drawbacks, but they're the next best things, so naturally, that's what the community has to hold onto.
Ampersand makes an announcement. They're shutting down as well. What... timing. What... coincidence. Their mental health was getting to them as well. Understandable, I suppose...
So the next best, biggest and well-known thing? Octocon. Has a bad background history, but... what else is there really? Besides, they've claimed they've changed. And what's better is they wrote down in their statement that they had no plans on shutting down! The reassurance is there, this surely could be a reliable source at last.
And then today. Suddenly... a turn.
3 strikes, you're out for me.
Mental health is a very important thing, and I will never not stand by that statement. However, when you make a statement about how you can't go on TWO DAYS after giving a solid reassurance that you will not be shutting down like other plural resources?
Disrespectful - put nicely.
I have no more respect for any of these developers since they have shown ZERO respect for their users.
Plural apps/websites like these are ESSENTIAL to the individuals in this community. And all three of the biggest sources out there are just going to say "ah, don't feel like it anymore. Sorry. Sucks for you guys"?
Disrespectful.
Ridiculous.
Temper tantrum.
Hissy fit.
You are taking away ACCESSIBILITY TOOLS. I have seen countless comparisons here that I, too, would like to note. Feel free to take credit for them if you see one that you've made, I don't remember the usernames. I know that Hypnos compared the situation to elevators. Elevators are accessibility tools for those unable to use the stairs to get to high places. Imagine you're taking away all the elevators in the world. Now there's no way for those unable to get up the stairs to access those higher-up places. This tool has been taken away from them, and so has their opportunity to reach certain areas.
Another person compared it to ADHD meds. Though, I could see this being made to any medication as well. Imagine the creation of ADHD meds were just... stopped. "No more medication is going to continue to be made to help with your ADHD because we just... don't have the time or energy to do it anymore. Oh, you want to see the formula we used so you can work off of that and continue it yourself? No, no, that's too risky of a move on our end... Feel free to start over though! You got this. 👍"
Like excuse me? Excuse you? In what world do you think that's okay?
Also, the Ampersand dev claiming that their statement about them shutting down wasn't... what they meant? And that somehow makes us the crazy ones? It was extremely clear in the statement that Ampersand was being discontinued.
So devs? I have a question.
Which is it? Are you shutting down, or are you not shutting down? Make up your minds, and don't make it the problem of the users. Don't put the blame on the users. This was not our doing. It was yours for coming in completely unprepared and making statements that you couldn't even have the decency of sticking to.
One more question.
What else is there to it? What's going on behind closed doors?
Because not one, not two, but all THREE of you shutting down at the same exact time? Very suspicious, very curious. This is not coincidence in the slightest.
I'm done being nice to these three devs. It takes a lot to piss me off, but these devs have managed to get me there the past week.
You want me to feel sorry for you? I don't. You brought all of this onto yourselves by handling the situation how you have this far. Need a break from the harrassment and the backlash? That's more than okay. DO: take a step back, turn your phone off for a while, get some air and take time to recover. DON'T: make it the problem of the users, feed fuel to the fire, and put the blame of your deteriorating mental health on the users whom YOU have disrespected.
I will put this so bluntly: Grow up. Be actual adults. Get mature. Maybe take a step back and take time to regroup - come back when you're actually prepared and ready to make official statements.
Saw these tags in a reblog on my post, and I'd like to add that I 100% agree.
While I would never condone harrassment to the devs, especially slurs, but I, too, have noticed this in many plural accounts.
The community is ALLOWED to be upset about this. This is a largely used tool that is being taken out from under our feet. "Journaling" is not a feasible option for everybody. Have you ever considered people who may be disabled, whether that be physically or otherwise? Some individuals CANNOT journal for a plethora of different reasons. That is not a "simple solution".
Our heads are not in our asses. We are upset and for a very good reason. And we can be upset without causing harrassment, sure, but not all of us are doing that. We are allowed to express our anger. If you expect us to keep our upset and anger silenced, then YOU are the asshole, sorry not sorry.
If you want a comparison that's not related to disability in some way, then here. I bet you'd be upset if ao3 suddenly went down with no explanation.
Thank you for the tags! I meant to add this earlier, but then I forgot with everything else lol. This was a great reminder.
Yes, Simply Plural shut down. Next, Ampersand went on haitus, NOT shut down, reasonably so. The community is up in arms harassing people (see: Concordia getting their shit rocked) for tools they think they're entitled to. I would not be surprised if either of these developers decided to just cancel their projects and leave the community. Atlas was getting harassed in their DMs and their own channel from the moment they made their first post due to people hating the "endo-neutral" stance argument. Then they shut down and people got even more enraged.
Let me make something clear:
You are not ENTITLED to the tools made FOR FREE by VOLUNTEERS.
You are not ENTITLED to the tools made FOR FREE by people giving hundreds, if not thousands, of their time and money, to hosting these platforms.
Plural apps are NOT "accessibility tools" and you are NOT entitled to them. These were made for free by people with time, by people who were part of the community who wanted to give back. These developers are perfectly within their rights to stop working on these tools at any time for any reason, and especially given the amount of harassment they've been getting. It's sickening.
This entire shitshow that I've been watching is just watching the DID/syscord community tear itself apart in rage because... what? Because you can't get over a free tool being discontinued?
Here's what you asked:
Because not one, not two, but all THREE of you shutting down at the same exact time? Very suspicious, very curious. This is not coincidence in the slightest.
And I will answer: SimplyPlural shut down. People flocked to Octocon, Ampersand, and others- applications already flooded with misinformation, discourse, and unwarranted harassment. Octocon initially released a statement clarifying everything, but continued to get harassed and sent death threats, so they quit. Ampersand is taking a break because they've been harassed. This is the fault of the system community. These developers have just all had enough.
It's so entitled and rude and selfish of you to blame the developers for this situation. You're not owed anything by people putting in free time for a free application just because you're traumatized. Ampersand is already literally going to go touch grass and cool off from the situation because it's so unstable. You're the one not being an adult here.
Finally, ending this post with the best thing Ampersand has said about the situation:
I'll answer this one time, because I think there's some misunderstanding here.
"Plural apps are NOT 'accessibility tools', and you are NOT entitled to them"
Shall I go through a definition?
Accessible: "a person with a disability is afforded the opportunity to acquire the same information, engage in the same interactions, and enjoy the same services as a person without a disability in an equally effective and equally integrated manner, with substantially equivalent ease of use."
Alternatively, accessibility "generally refers to the design of products and environments to be usable by people with disabilities."
So even if you don't want to count it as an "accessibility TOOL" (which, it IS a tool, and you even referred to it as one in your reblog a couple of times), the purpose of the app is... accessibility... for those of us who are plural in any capacity. Free or not, volunteered or not, it IS an accessibility tool that was created.
Additionally, okay, so Ampersand was just going on a hiatus - okay, I get it, that was on me and I will admit that. But the way that wording was handled still could have been improved, even if the harrassment was taking place. All of these devs have had every opportunity to turn off notifications, turn off their phones, etc. for a while if they truly were overwhelmed with everything. There is nothing wrong with stepping back for a wbile, it's understandable. What's not okay is throwing more fuel on the fire by engaging with the hundreds of people who are rightfully pissed off right now. Doing so is only making the situation worse than it needs to be.
I also feel that you calling me "traumatized" by this whole situation is a bit of a step into my life that you don't really have a right to be in, don't you think? Please take a step back there. Whether or not I'm traumatized by this situation is a me thing. However, if you wsnt to talk about how its affecting other people in the community, let's talk about that. I have seen MULTIPLE systems, ESPECIALLY those who are new to the community forced to take a step back or a pause in their self discovery because of all this. Newly formed and/or discovered systems who are questioning themselves, re-entering the denial stage, etc. from all of this bullshit! And we're just going to ignore that and act like that's okay? All of these Accessibility Apps for the Plural Community (if we don't want to use the term "accessibility tools") are being taken away not just from systems who have been relying on them for years and years, but also from newcomers who have heard of these apps and/or websites that could help them, and now they're all being swept out from under their feet.
Last thing: I would say that, like with ANHTHING, we are all owed some respect. I will say it AGAIN - I am in no way condoning the harrassment that has taken place toward the devs. However, the devs have shown little to no respect to its users. The Simply Plural dev came into this without the decency of offering answers to BASIC and EXPECTED questions. Octocon gave the assurance that they had NO plans of shutting down AND said they'd give much much notice if it WERE to happen, and then TWO DAYS LATER, suddenly it's shutting down and the time given was TWO WEEKS.
Harassment or not, that was a lie straught to the faces of the community as a whole, and that is 100% a betrayal.
So no. It is not selfish to blame the developers for the situation, and I will not feel sorry anymore. There were better ways to handle the situation, and that's just a fact.
Hi, I'm Celeste Trithe. I'm not really one to share my thoughts and feelings, but I want to... try. I guess you could classify this as a vent post? So... proceed with caution, I guess.
Being a fragment in a system filled with fully fleshed out alters is... hard. For example, let me try out that intro again.
Hi, I'm Celeste Trithe. I'm an Age Slider (anywhere from 8-18 typically), I like the color red, I go by he/him pronouns. I'm blind in-system and a wolf hybrid. My father is Jacob Trithe, a part of Hypnos' system.
That's... all I know about myself. It may seem like a lot, but when you compare me to everyone else in the system?
Jay is a pretty confident and proud trans man who takes passion in writing stories and creating art in any way he can manage. His favorite color fluxuates, but it typically lands on certain shades of blue and pink. He thinks he wants to become a mechanic of sorts, and he has quite the extensive family. He has a boyfriend that he loves dearly and wants to marry someday.
Tragedy is nonbinary, masculine presenting most of the time with the occassional femininity sprinkled in. He takes interest in writing poems and will watch marble racing videos online for hours if given the opportunity. 💧 has a love interest in Hypnos' system and will jump through hoops to impress him in any way he can muster. He's often sad or neutral on the feelings front, but he actively tries to find positive outlets.
Me? I don't know. I don't have a personality. I don't know anything about myself. It's not like I haven't tried... I've been here for so long. But I just can't seem to find myself... and I can never shake the feeling that everyone around me hates my guts.
I get annoyed and upset easily. Sound can get overstimulating at the most random of times and it can cause me to lash out. Someone simply talking to me can make me pissed off, and I think in those moments I just need silence - but how do I ask for that without sounding like an asshole? They'll hate me. They'll think I hate them. They'll think I want them to shut up forever and never want to hear their voice again.
I have strong opinions. I lash out because I don't know who I am, but I'm surrounded by people who do and that really sucks. I guess you could say I get jealous in a way. But... I don't know.
I want to front. I want to interact with everyone outside of this system. But every time I do, I feel... lost. Like a foreign object floating in the endless sea. I freeze up kind of... I stand there, unsure of what the next step is. What do I do? I don't know what I like... I don't know what my hobbies are. I barely know that I like red. So I stand there, wondering, questioning... what do I do next? I don't know. So I get upset because I don't know. And then I hate myself because I'm upset that I don't know. My mood shifts. Everything is overstimulating. I just want my dad. I just want to know myself... I just want... to be someone. I want to front, but every time I do, I just feel like... I'm being a burden on Jay. That I'm only going to annoy whoever is around because... why would anyone want to be around me? I don't want to be around me. And what if I say something or lash out while at front? It would ruin Jay's image. It wouldn't be his fault, but it was "him" that did it.
I feel chained down... I feel like despite my best efforts to trudge forward, the only thing I get is stuck when I reach the end of the chains around my wrists or... tugged backwards by those same chains and forced to carry out the same act... over... and over... and over again.
I guess what I'm trying to get at is... sharing what it's like for a fragment like myself. I'm not trying to speak for everyone who might have this role, but I feel like... this never gets talked about. I never see people talk about deeper topics like this, and I guess I'm just hoping that I'm not... alone.
Or maybe I'm just yelling into the void, heh. It wouldn't shock me all that much.
Tldr; I'm a man with big emotions but doesn't know how to deal with them because I don't know myself
I hope this isn’t overstepping, but you did share…so here’s too a bit of a gentle reminder and nudging ramble if you will.
We’ve learned so much about our system but also find, that at least personally, we never stop learning. Reading your post has made things click and settle a bit more, another ‘ooooh’ moment for us perhaps. I also want to thank you for sharing your thoughts in hopes of reaching others. I also hope that at some point, you may find peace in being just the way you are. I completely get wanting to be fully formed or completely known and fleshed out like your fellow headmates, but I hope you don’t box and suffocate yourself with trying to rush into it either! And while I can never claim to know how your system feels or works, I would like to tentatively say that I doubt everyone dislikes you or sees you as a burden. We all have big feelings for a reason I always say. Plus, who wouldn’t be irritable if they’re overstimulated? It sounds like to me that you’re perhaps being a little unfair to yourself. From our perspective with the context you’ve provided, you seem very self aware and that is, honestly, always the hardest and biggest step to take! So know you’re doing wonderfully and I do hope you can see that someday. Once more you are not alone and thank you for sharing! (Btw I think your guys’s designs are always so neat and yours Celeste Trithe caught our attention especially because we too have a blind member in system)
Sorry this took so long to get to, it's been sitting in my drafts for a while.
Not overstepping at all. I shared, and I was kind of hoping I might get a little clarity like this, so I appreciate it.
I am hard on my self. I don't give myself enough credit, which is tough to admit, but I know more than anyone that it's true. Logically, I know that people don't really hate me... probably. But it's tough to get out of that mindset, especially when I'm upset or I feel like I've done aomething wrong. But y'know... I'm working on it.
I do hope that I can slowly make progress and accept myself on higher level, and I appreciate your kind words and encouragement.
Thanks for the design compliments, too. Roslan and Jay both light up whenever they see your posts as well since they get to see you use the userboxes they made for you, heh.
Oh you’re completely fine!! No worries at all!! We honestly weren’t expecting a response and were just hoping what we said may uplift you (and other systems that may feel this way) even just a smidge! So genuinely you’re good and we’re happy to hear from you!!
And I’m glad that what I said resonated and was able to encourage you!!! It makes me very happy to hear that you’re acknowledging these feelings as well! It’s tough to do as you said, but so so so worth it!!
And awww I truly am so grateful for the userboxes they both made us!!! They’re such a treat to put on our posts <3
I hope you’re all having a lovely timezone / thanks for the reply!!!
Ask and yee shall receive!! (we are back to bother you guys with questions heheh)
🐬 most likely to be turned into a frog by an evil witch :(
🐙 who’s the best at fronting (interpret this how you will)
🦑 which pillow pet are you (current fronter)
🐬 - Prayer,he would probably piss off the witch either by downplaying their powers,or just by being as vain as he is (sorry Prayer, I love you 💙 but it's true)
🐙 - Probably Sunny! He's so much more social than I am 🥲
🦑 - The frog,because I really love frogs!
Thanks for the ask! You are always welcome in our inbox 💙
Seen other systems do this - thought we’d try! 💭 🤔 (0 pressure and we may delete this honestly lol)
Reasons for fellow systems to be moots/friends >:3
-Will send virtual platonic love/will be your number one fan and gusher (if you’re comfortable with such ofc)
-we’re a system that loves positivity!!! We love uplifting mental health, advocacy, and seeing the joys in plurality (but also down to be real about things too)
-loves yapping, asking questions, AND listening will happily do all three :)
-has so many hobbies we don’t have enough hands as a system put together to count lol (you’re into hyper specific recipes? We probs know, into ecology? Medical jargon? We are forever collective learners lol)
-Looks like a cinnamon roll? Very much are cinnamon rolls hehe (sorry horror folks, luv you guys but we’re all wimps lmao)
Hi, I'm Celeste Trithe. I'm not really one to share my thoughts and feelings, but I want to... try. I guess you could classify this as a vent post? So... proceed with caution, I guess.
Being a fragment in a system filled with fully fleshed out alters is... hard. For example, let me try out that intro again.
Hi, I'm Celeste Trithe. I'm an Age Slider (anywhere from 8-18 typically), I like the color red, I go by he/him pronouns. I'm blind in-system and a wolf hybrid. My father is Jacob Trithe, a part of Hypnos' system.
That's... all I know about myself. It may seem like a lot, but when you compare me to everyone else in the system?
Jay is a pretty confident and proud trans man who takes passion in writing stories and creating art in any way he can manage. His favorite color fluxuates, but it typically lands on certain shades of blue and pink. He thinks he wants to become a mechanic of sorts, and he has quite the extensive family. He has a boyfriend that he loves dearly and wants to marry someday.
Tragedy is nonbinary, masculine presenting most of the time with the occassional femininity sprinkled in. He takes interest in writing poems and will watch marble racing videos online for hours if given the opportunity. 💧 has a love interest in Hypnos' system and will jump through hoops to impress him in any way he can muster. He's often sad or neutral on the feelings front, but he actively tries to find positive outlets.
Me? I don't know. I don't have a personality. I don't know anything about myself. It's not like I haven't tried... I've been here for so long. But I just can't seem to find myself... and I can never shake the feeling that everyone around me hates my guts.
I get annoyed and upset easily. Sound can get overstimulating at the most random of times and it can cause me to lash out. Someone simply talking to me can make me pissed off, and I think in those moments I just need silence - but how do I ask for that without sounding like an asshole? They'll hate me. They'll think I hate them. They'll think I want them to shut up forever and never want to hear their voice again.
I have strong opinions. I lash out because I don't know who I am, but I'm surrounded by people who do and that really sucks. I guess you could say I get jealous in a way. But... I don't know.
I want to front. I want to interact with everyone outside of this system. But every time I do, I feel... lost. Like a foreign object floating in the endless sea. I freeze up kind of... I stand there, unsure of what the next step is. What do I do? I don't know what I like... I don't know what my hobbies are. I barely know that I like red. So I stand there, wondering, questioning... what do I do next? I don't know. So I get upset because I don't know. And then I hate myself because I'm upset that I don't know. My mood shifts. Everything is overstimulating. I just want my dad. I just want to know myself... I just want... to be someone. I want to front, but every time I do, I just feel like... I'm being a burden on Jay. That I'm only going to annoy whoever is around because... why would anyone want to be around me? I don't want to be around me. And what if I say something or lash out while at front? It would ruin Jay's image. It wouldn't be his fault, but it was "him" that did it.
I feel chained down... I feel like despite my best efforts to trudge forward, the only thing I get is stuck when I reach the end of the chains around my wrists or... tugged backwards by those same chains and forced to carry out the same act... over... and over... and over again.
I guess what I'm trying to get at is... sharing what it's like for a fragment like myself. I'm not trying to speak for everyone who might have this role, but I feel like... this never gets talked about. I never see people talk about deeper topics like this, and I guess I'm just hoping that I'm not... alone.
Or maybe I'm just yelling into the void, heh. It wouldn't shock me all that much.
Tldr; I'm a man with big emotions but doesn't know how to deal with them because I don't know myself
I hope this isn’t overstepping, but you did share…so here’s too a bit of a gentle reminder and nudging ramble if you will.
We’ve learned so much about our system but also find, that at least personally, we never stop learning. Reading your post has made things click and settle a bit more, another ‘ooooh’ moment for us perhaps. I also want to thank you for sharing your thoughts in hopes of reaching others. I also hope that at some point, you may find peace in being just the way you are. I completely get wanting to be fully formed or completely known and fleshed out like your fellow headmates, but I hope you don’t box and suffocate yourself with trying to rush into it either! And while I can never claim to know how your system feels or works, I would like to tentatively say that I doubt everyone dislikes you or sees you as a burden. We all have big feelings for a reason I always say. Plus, who wouldn’t be irritable if they’re overstimulated? It sounds like to me that you’re perhaps being a little unfair to yourself. From our perspective with the context you’ve provided, you seem very self aware and that is, honestly, always the hardest and biggest step to take! So know you’re doing wonderfully and I do hope you can see that someday. Once more you are not alone and thank you for sharing! (Btw I think your guys’s designs are always so neat and yours Celeste Trithe caught our attention especially because we too have a blind member in system)
*throws at thee a bunch of plural system coded characters at ya cuz I can* Hear me out :3 (or don’t, this is for us first and foremost anywho)
First up, Shiego Kagayama (shocker to no one lol) I mean, as far as we see he could be described as a dual-system, seeing as there’s what we’ll call ‘Mob’ the boy we get to know for the majority of the show, and then there’s ‘100%’ the ‘destructive emotional lid off powers side’ that is his headmate! :) (from what we gather, it seems like 100% may have been here before Mob and when they snapped to attention to protect their little bro, Mob split into existence after 100% felt the devastation of harming their little bro by accident, thus Mob ‘took over’. 100% became dormant/took the brunt of their powers under lock and key.)
Raphael Hamato from ROTTMNT ! I mean, he’s got ‘mind Raph’ who works with ‘leader Raph’ then there’s ‘kid/fan Raph’ plus ‘savage Raph’ and I’d argue ‘caretaker/big brother/worry wart Raph’ exists too! They all get called ‘Raph’ in some form and get played off as jokes or ‘that’s just Raph being Raph’ by his bro’s, but I mean, we basically got an entire episode showcasing both potential for plurality and separation anxiety (as a sidenote, I believe Raph formed as a system very early on, it’s hard to say if it was from play/imagination thus endo before it turned into work/burdens/trauma, but I also feel lowkey like this is something that was designed and built into his programming from Draxum via his ‘perfect solider’ genetics, now idk if that was an accident or on purpose by the goat man gene wise.)
Okay this is where it becomes completely a headcanon, like, there is no evidence to suggest (as far as we can tell) that Hunter from toh is system coded! But, let’s rock and roll about it anyways heh. I feel like with all of the ‘past lives’ that are technically connected to Hunter, as well as all of the pressures (and let’s be real, symbolism for so many types of traumas including csa, religious trauma, physical abuse etc) that toh illustrates and eludes to us with Belos; Hunter I feel is bound to have some (if not many) form(s) of dissociation that cascades into a forming headmates.
Okay similar to Hunter, nothing to back it up aside from the idea that what he went through CANNOT have left him unscathed psychologically and in Senku’s case there are real life studies showcasing how the longest recorded record of sensory deprivation and complete/total isolation from society will wear and tear upon the human psyche. I know it’s fiction but the fact that they ‘joke’ about basically being ‘immortal’ and that Senku offhandly was like ‘yeah I stayed awake the entire time’ I couldn’t help but notice that everyone (including people from Senku’s time) are openly distressed/concerned/shocked by the news, which tells me that nobody else remained conscious like him those 3,719 years/249 days/117,354,893,870 seconds give or take. Essentially, I think Senku could’ve very likely formed a system to cope with the mind duress and then furthermore after all of the trauma and grief that hits throughout the show.
*Throws Moon Knight in as a joke cuz he is canonically a system so it tisn’t a headcanon*
REALLY love OSDD Raph. Please show us more. This is canon to me. Ily. /p 💛💛💛
hell yeah wolfgang heres raph (collective)
they dont technically have a system name but donnie calls them "the collective" and it stuck
ive got some thoughts under the cut on them:
red (6~7yo) is actually the core of the system. at around that age red got separated from the family and was lost in the sewers for a decent amount of time, and when splinter found him it was savage fronting, and when he went back to "normal" (raph now being host) he was... different, but splinter wasnt able to identify what was wrong. just that the trauma somehow changed him, and raph remembered none of it, so it was hard to look into anything for a long while.
raph is host (ANP) and was unaware of being in a system until sometime in his tweens, soon after april befriended the boys. it takes a couple more years for him to find out that hes actually an alter and not the core (mind was aware of this but kept it from raph until he was stable enough to handle it)
mind is their gatekeeper and he fucking Hates fronting solo he always prefers to backseat drive, but if the situation calls for it hes perfectly functional in front.
red is completely nonverbal and if he's co-con, sometimes whoever he's with will also go nonverbal
savage is their protector (and trauma holder) and is actually fairly chill if hes fronting when theyre home/safe and surrounded by people first (but mind keeps a close eye on him cause he spooks easy)
all this is subject to change as me and @the-awesome-cabbage continue to write connective tissue but thats the basic gist of the collective right now :p
