So, I was looking at the canon map that was released for some of our theories and just… Just no. It hurts me to even look at as it is widely inaccurate and outdated. Some places don’t even exist anymore or they haven’t even been added, so enjoy the rant I am about to go on.
As you can see this was a "Part 1" to the map problem and I was working on the next part, however, fate seemed to have other ideas because like an annoying jelly worm in the garden...
THEY CHANGED THE MAP AGAIN!
Now, usually this wouldn't be a problem. They at least kept the same shape right?
... Right?
THEY CHANGED THE ENTIRE BODY OF THE CONTINENT AND NOW I NEED TO EXPLAIN HOW MAGICALLY ITS PUT ITSELF BACK TOGETHER.
Yes, it may be a simplified version of the map but you do not understand how hard Spiced and I have worked looking tirelessly at the other one so there will be a delay in part 2 of the map problems coming to light as we try to register that they basically just cursed the map once more by changing the overall anatomy of this.
Anyway, I need my seventh cup of coffee before I decide to write any more on this, it may only be noon, however, that will never keep me from the energy I desperately crave.
Till we meet again, fated reader. - Maple Pecan Cookie
Cookies like spresso, dark cacao, and affo have some explenacion, in the art book wich might be oudated in some areas it is explained that cookies from the cacao kingdom.mainly coffes, have more energy and are more owake due to the caffeine they have in them, it is even stated that the coffe tribe members often do as messengers and i belive mail mans as there all ágile jumpy and the such. The reason cookies like choco latte and coffe cookie her self lac any sort of slit eyes is because there ingridients tone down the cafeine effect within em, like latte is mostly milk hence her lighter skin tone and normal eyes, choco is well a choco so its no longer 100% cacao, and Coffe cookie is like 50% 50%.
Also idk if putting lico gumball and the such in unexplainable makes sense just because there eyes are sorounded by a difrent color
I’d like an explanation for that one. And Dark Cacao is not guaranteed to have Caffeine in him. If that were the case, the pupils would always be there instead of showing only when he’s angry.
Latte’s argument is cancelled out by Affogato being half ice-cream.
Coffee is COFFEE so why not the same eyes.
I could go on and on. I really am curious your opinion on them. *curious glint in their eyes*
Idk why you bring up kouign-amann? Her eyes are weaird i have nothing to explain it, idk whats her deal besides being cinammon roll-like when it comes to her food, i srs cant explain her she has huge hearts thats not as simple as a difrent outline for the eyes or constricted ones [i din't know thats what they where called I just called em reptile eyes as i never focused on em besides once when i made a post on pond dino,so thanks maple]
Cookies like spresso, dark cacao, and affo have some explenacion, in the art book wich might be oudated in some areas it is explained that cookies from the cacao kingdom.mainly coffes, have more energy and are more owake due to the caffeine they have in them, it is even stated that the coffe tribe members often do as messengers and i belive mail mans as there all ágile jumpy and the such. The reason cookies like choco latte and coffe cookie her self lac any sort of slit eyes is because there ingridients tone down the cafeine effect within em, like latte is mostly milk hence her lighter skin tone and normal eyes, choco is well a choco so its no longer 100% cacao, and Coffe cookie is like 50% 50%.
Also idk if putting lico gumball and the such in unexplainable makes sense just because there eyes are sorounded by a difrent color
Hi! Maple here! I'm assuming you're quoting the book from the Cacao Kingdom segment in which yes, coffee cookies do have constricted pupils! You are quite right there. However there is a small problem with this and the theory overall.
While this explains the constricted pupils, you are actually incorrect in your milk to coffee ratio theory as Affogato is made of mostly milk and cream and he still possesses the coffee cookie eyes.
And for the Choco and Cacao theory I understand where you are coming from but it would actually be impossible for this, as a tablespoon of cacao nibs, even extremely bitter ones, contain up to 4.6 milligrams of caffeine while coffee, in any capacity, starts at and sometimes mellows at 96 milligrams of caffeine for an 8oz cup. And I know I'm bringing technicalities in but it is important to look at the facts that are presented.
Most of all, besides Affogato, there is not much evidence tying Latte or even Espresso back to the coffee tribe as they work mostly with Parfaedia, the Vanilla Kingdom, and the Creme Republic (where Espresso is apparently from). It is never solidly stated where their origin of birth is, nor do we hear of any other coffee cookies, however, the coffee tribe, as well as the milk tribe, are struggling.
With this it could mean they simply moved or ran away but Espresso is literally sleeping and living in his lab back at the Creme Republic, so something tells me he has lived there since he was extremely young and therefore could have different origins. But that is another explanation for another day.
Here is Espresso's page for reference:
So while it is true most coffee cookies will have constricted pupils based on caffeine content, it is extremely unlikely that the citizens derived from Cacao would. It is mostly based off the caffeine content rather than the percentage of milk or dilutes.
So therefore Cacao and Crunchy Chip are mostly still unexplained.
Anyway, I must go as Spiced is calling me for some tea. Until we meet again. - Maple Pecan Cookie.
Cookies like spresso, dark cacao, and affo have some explenacion, in the art book wich might be oudated in some areas it is explained that cookies from the cacao kingdom.mainly coffes, have more energy and are more owake due to the caffeine they have in them, it is even stated that the coffe tribe members often do as messengers and i belive mail mans as there all ágile jumpy and the such. The reason cookies like choco latte and coffe cookie her self lac any sort of slit eyes is because there ingridients tone down the cafeine effect within em, like latte is mostly milk hence her lighter skin tone and normal eyes, choco is well a choco so its no longer 100% cacao, and Coffe cookie is like 50% 50%.
Also idk if putting lico gumball and the such in unexplainable makes sense just because there eyes are sorounded by a difrent color
I’d like an explanation for that one. And Dark Cacao is not guaranteed to have Caffeine in him. If that were the case, the pupils would always be there instead of showing only when he’s angry.
Latte’s argument is cancelled out by Affogato being half ice-cream.
Coffee is COFFEE so why not the same eyes.
I could go on and on. I really am curious your opinion on them. *curious glint in their eyes*
So, I was looking at the canon map that was released for some of our theories and just… Just no. It hurts me to even look at as it is widely inaccurate and outdated. Some places don’t even exist anymore or they haven’t even been added, so enjoy the rant I am about to go on.
So, I was looking at the canon map that was released for some of our theories and just... Just no. It hurts me to even look at as it is widely inaccurate and outdated. Some places don’t even exist anymore or they haven’t even been added, so enjoy the rant I am about to go on.
The problem with this map is, however, it makes no logical sense...
First of all; we are told in the game that Beast Yeast is North-East of Dragon’s Valley (DV), no biggie, right? Well, actually, it’s also supposed to be connected. It is NE of DV and resides in/near the Licorice Sea as stated in the game, however, here it is just floating away near Crispia and the Jellyfish Ocean. The Licorice Sea does not exist and therefore, it cannot be in the right position regardless.
A secondary problem that occurred was that the Giant Icing Ridge is too close to a tropical climate to be considered to be what it is, meaning that, while the Cacao Kingdom would be cold, it would not get to the temperatures to become an icy wasteland where cookies cannot reside without help. It would be a cooler climate, yes, but it wouldn’t be considered an artic or even all year round snowy place.
Realistically, the City of Wizards (CoW) is placed in a weird spot, it is coastal and by the sea, however, it would be much closer to Cacao’s Kingdom (CK) than Hollyberry’s (HBK) as it also holds the Tower of Frozen Waves, which shouldn’t exist anymore by the way. The CoW also has a much cooler climate compared to the tropical, Venice-like weather the HBK has. Not to mention, the CoW is told to be in the mountains, which is not here.
Another possible problem is that the Vanilla Kingdom (VK), is that it is close to the Lake of Truth. Now, this wouldn’t be a problem, but unfortunately it is as the VK is a barren wasteland. After the attack there has been no vegetation growth, there are only dead trees and they are in a severe drought to the point only raisin birds and old raisin residents could survive, the rest of the Vanillians high-tailed it out of there. (Also has anyone even heard of the Blood Jam mountains...?) If they live close to a lake, sure it would take over a hundred years to rehydrate, there would be vegetation growth. However, later in the game, during the Council episodes, it’s shown that the plants have nearly grown back. But that is a problem for another time because I’m not going into the map of tree growth right now. (Picture is to show the drought.)
Even the Sugar Free Road makes no sense as it is shown that Vanilla goes through multiple mountain ranges to reach what is basically “enlightenment”, however, the map never goes through mountains. It is shown they go around through valleys. So this man is either a liar or a fake (/j). It is a possibility but could be the Judgement Ravine, however, this is shown to be nowhere near the mountain ranges. If we wanted it to make more sense climate-wise and just in general, move it more towards the Secret Fig Forest, as well as the Dessert Paradise.
While Golden Cheese hasn’t been released yet, the original positioning is not up to date and is a major issue with the map. We can assume Golden Cheese’s Kingdom is the one nestled between the Cream Cake Mountains, as originally her kingdom was to be in a Valley. Now that wouldn’t be a major issue because it’s in a valley, it is supposedly in a tropical climate, it’s sorted.
Well...
IT’S IN A DESERT?!
WE DON’T HAVE ROOM ON THE MAP FOR A DESERT!
The map is too small to hold everything and if you want us to believe anything you say, there is either no desert or you’ve moved GC’s Kingdom into a place it cannot possibly be.
Deserts are formed in mountain ranges in which rain clouds cannot reach, however, this is the secondary problem, they have slapped it smack bang next to... You guessed it... THE OCEAN.
But anyway, this is going to have to wait for another day, Spiced is wanting to tell me about a lizard they found at the entrance.
i can’t believe i’m putting this on my blog *head in hands* but damnit i’m a genetics nerd i am LEGALLY obliged to ramble SOMEWHERE about my thoughts.
anyways so TLDR: i like ur ideas here but also hrhrrrr that’s not how they workkk by a simple model like you’d have learned in 7th grade. Unless you start coming up with some Shenanigans regarding either Jungleberry’s side of the family and her lineage, OR how draconic traits work. Then, entirely plausible!
Hi other biology nerd here. If you think about it the dragon genes NOT being a poly gene situation would be way weirder. Pupils, markings, and teeth controlled by ONE protein????? ONE regulatory sequence?????? I’m not sure about that. It would make way more sense that Royal Berry just got extremely lucky (unlucky?) and expressed no dragon traits while Tiger Lily just got combinations of genes from Jungleberry that allowed the expression of the draconic traits to a greater degree. So basically I’m just repeating what you said and I’m agreeing.
I’m for the a) polygene draconic traits and perhaps even b) polygene inhibitor. Honestly the draconic traits would probably interact with other proteins and regular cookie gene expressions, in which case explains the color of Tiger Lily’s traits to be orange instead of Pitaya-like. Perhaps Hollyberry just has REALLY potent repressor gene lol.
So trueee, having that many things controlled by a single gene would be pretty crazy, especially since not even all of the dragons in-game (if I am remembering my Ovenbreak dragons correctly) share all the same traits. Plus it opens up interesting possibilities for other cookies too, like I’ve seen draconic lineage Dark Cacao headcanons too due to how he looks when angry and in his berserk form. Polygene draconic definitely favorite idea of the bunch as well but interplay between draconic genes and other normal cookie genes (regardless of the presence of dedicated inhibitors or not) sounds like a very fun idea to mull over 👁
Also me not being a biology nerd as a whole means it totally slipped my mind that these things are proteins and whatnot so that’s neat to hear more about how it’s working on the back end!! (You can tell that I too haven’t exactly taken a biology class since highschool lOL)
If you don’t mind me asking, I ask your opinion on Rabutan and Lychee. Lychee has Holly’s fringe, which could be an inherited trait like the widow’s peak, while Rambutan is widely thought to be Holly and Pitaya’s child.
If they are siblings with Royalberry, this does give the lineage more clarity on traits? No? I am honestly curious how adding these two to the line adds to this theory, as Lychee not only looks like Pitaya and Holly but slightly like Longan as well.
It is just incredibly interesting to me. Feel free to ignore this, but I thought I’d ask.
A Series of Observations by Spiced Orange Treacle Cookie
Okay, before I go into detail about how I am not a fan of the Gaston cookie, can we just look at the Wyvern?
Buttercream seems incredibly fond of Royal Margarine, but is also strangely tame for her origins.
In the main story, Royal Margarine admits the story of how he meets Buttercream Wyvern:
He doesn't tame Buttercream, he just stumbles upon her. He even states that he's afraid of wyverns, which makes this story even stranger. Why would a wyvern―which all others of her kind are known to attack cookies―not kill him on sight? Why did she let him live?
This gets even more interesting when you look at the snippets of lore you can obtain as the story progresses:
Now the first two notes are rather nonimportant to our discussion today, though they show that Buttercream is most certainly sentient and that the only thing keeping her from communicating is the fact that she doesn't speak the Common Tongue.
But should you continue, it states that Buttercream believes, "Royal Margarine Cookie should be happy to be under my protection...!" and, "I'm not afraid to face the biggest monsters! After all, I've Royal Margarine Cookie to protect!" This is incredibly significant, as it shows that Buttercream sees the cookie as a charge to protect instead of a master, ally, or anything else. She sees him as something to protect.
Why is this important? Well, look back to how they met again. A young cookie stumbles upon a wyvern after running away in fear. A child was scared and alone, and the wyvern found him and decided he was worth protecting. A little odd, no?
Add in more little details, and this picture gets even clearer. Royal Margarine is the last of his clan, as stated by the fact that he is the last dragon rider. He's a coward, afraid of going into danger, but why? He's trying to save space and be seen as a hero, but for what purpose?
It seems like we have a traumatised adult who is simply trying to find somewhere safe to be while avoiding the pain of his past, and a wyvern that either adopted him for whatever reason. This is going into speculation, but I can see Buttercream either being a mother who lost a clutch and took in the child instead, saving him from the extinction of his clan and taking care of him since, or Buttercream being the same age as him, though the latter fails to explain why Buttercream decided not to attack him.
Also, Buttercream is much smaller than the wyverns you fight, which may be a factor to add to the young Wyvern theory, but I am unsure of which one has more merit. Feel free to add your thoughts. For now, Maple is calling me, and I'm hungry. See you another time!
(Aka me coping with the fucked up timeline of crk)
These four seem to be around the same age.
Hear me out
in chapter 10 there's a flashback of Premier custard cookie holding a small child (around 2-4 months, maybe) and custard III points out that small child is his dad, which leads me to believe that the small kid in chapter ten is bastard ii, hate his ass but I'm going to keep going.
Now it's not stated how long before the events of the attack on pure vanilla's castle was when white lily became dark enchantress, I'm thinking about a month or like a year before, but in the flashback we're shown through the eyes of pastry cookie, red velvet is a small child (ages 4-7 (which is debatable since red velvet has seem to just/recently came out of the oven)) and is given a cake arm by dark enchantress.
Now it's know that crepe was in a cryogenic sleep pod for the length of time between de's attack on pv's Castle and her being released, which is roughly about 20 years at least to forty years at the most. While it's unknown the exact age of crepe (like every character, besides gingerbrave) they seem to be around 10-13 years of age when they were put to sleep.
Now I'm just going to out loud that dark choco was created as a coping mechanism by cacao, and was in my mind created after the dark flour war. So he would have been born(?) About a year to ten years after the dark war.
(I forgot to include this when I made the comic, but also royalberry cookie is also probaly closest in age to choco)
This also brings up the question of: why don't they all look the same age wise?
Well I have an (bs) answer for you!
People who were baked in the oven seem to age quite slower than normal cookies, and the strawberry jam sword might also have the same properties to keep their host alive.
Also crepe got shadow the hedgehoged so we dont take them in to this equation.
Anyway, be Free to add on stuff if you feel like it.
Hm... I would agree with most of this. Also, it seems those in the vicinity of Soul Jams or who are related to them are the ones who age the slowest. We don't actually know who put Crepe in that cryotube as well, as Crepe seems to have amnesia from the degradation of the equipment, but we know that it had to happen before the final battle of the Dark Flour War, so we can assume that Crepe was in proximity to at least Pure Vanilla (if not White Lily, but that is a theory for another day).
The one thing I would like to dispute is that Elder Custard is the BROTHER of Premier Custard Cookie, and the baby in that flashback is confirmed to be Premier Custard Cookie's son and Custard Cookie III's father, which means Elder Custard would in fact be OLDER than all three of these other cookies. How this works, I do not know, and I can only assume that being closely related to Vanilla has impacted Elder Custard's longevity.
And yes, Royalberry is likely the same age as Choco. Seems reasonable that Holly and Cacao had kids around the same time.
Okay, pillow thoughts here. Was thinking about the Blueberry Academy disaster that turned everyone into ghosts (or whatever they are now) when it hit us:
There are only two confirmed escapees of that disaster: Pure Vanilla and White Lily. We have no proof that anyone else escaped the spell. This in and of itself is odd. Maybe it's a soul jam thing, but this spell KILLED everyone else and was so bad that Lily had to "atone" for it. Weird, no?
But then it gets even deeper. These are the two characters who canonically die to a degree. They were at the epicenter of an explosion, and Lily was essentially baked alive. Sure, they come back, but no one else has had this happen to them. Even Cacao survived the fall off the wall.
And then we realised... they didn't escape unscathed. Where does Lily end up trapped? In the Moonstone at the top of the Blueberry Academy, the same Moonstone that woke up Vanilla when it was destroyed.
That spell Lily cast in the academy didn't kill her and Vanilla; it accidentally saved their lives.
so i drew this in another post but didn’t elaborate on it. i HC that Soul Jam has physical/mental effects on the wielder, which is one of the reasons why only their respective cookies can handle it. Dark Cacao’s arm, the one that holds the sword, has become discolored and purple, scarring up from how powerful the Soul Jam is
it’s pretty painful for him and he sometimes shows it to his warriors to send a good message about the sacrifices he has to make for his kingdom. The Soul Jam gives him his power, but since it’s more like a curse, it has an effect on his emotional state as well. (I kinda didn’t like how he went Berserk at the LAST second at the end of his story via Pomegranate, therefore I changed it so the Soul Jam is why he’s Like That.) If he gets too stressed, angry or upset, he could transform into his Berserk mode due to his emotions/power getting out of control. He’s learned to control it after a long time of dealing with it, but sometimes things just happen
for the others, i don’t know the full scope for their curses, but i imagine that Hollyberry could overexert herself and end up “blowing a fuse” where she becomes completely weak for a while because she was overwhelmed with her own power.
If the curse is directly over his heart... Is his heart still beating? Is he still truly alive? Perhaps that why he survived the attack by Dark Enchantress because the soul jam had stopped his heart long ago, the magic coursing through his veins instead of blood, and leaving a man unable to perish.
After all, can your heart really stop if it was never beating at all?
Thank you. We actually have had a theory that Pure Vanilla was a phoenix for a while now, as the ancient heroes’ soul jams are very reminiscent of the Dragons’ gems as they have gems embedded in them that seem to be sources of power. Cacao’s eyes in his rage sprite are just icing on the cake. The soul jam leaving a mark and stopping his heart just fit into this theory quite nicely.
I am surprised you didn’t look not only into cursed scars, but Lichtenburg scars for Cacao. If you notice, his sword summons lightning when he slams it down with both hands, so my best guess would be you’d see electrical (Lichtenburg) scars on at least the cursed arm, if not both. Also, the skin looks necrotic for both Holly and Cacao, meaning that the blood no longer travels to those areas as easily. It is highly likely that they have at least a pins and needles feeling in that arm, if not numbness or total lack of feeling, likely how both seem to not feel great pressure from others’ attacks as long as they are on said limbs. They feel it everywhere else, but those arms seem to be immune to damage. The skin probably feels scaly and smooth from scar tissue, a strange sensation to anyone who would see beneath the gloves they both wear. To any who don’t know them, such a sight would almost feel…
so i drew this in another post but didn’t elaborate on it. i HC that Soul Jam has physical/mental effects on the wielder, which is one of the reasons why only their respective cookies can handle it. Dark Cacao’s arm, the one that holds the sword, has become discolored and purple, scarring up from how powerful the Soul Jam is
it’s pretty painful for him and he sometimes shows it to his warriors to send a good message about the sacrifices he has to make for his kingdom. The Soul Jam gives him his power, but since it’s more like a curse, it has an effect on his emotional state as well. (I kinda didn’t like how he went Berserk at the LAST second at the end of his story via Pomegranate, therefore I changed it so the Soul Jam is why he’s Like That.) If he gets too stressed, angry or upset, he could transform into his Berserk mode due to his emotions/power getting out of control. He’s learned to control it after a long time of dealing with it, but sometimes things just happen
for the others, i don’t know the full scope for their curses, but i imagine that Hollyberry could overexert herself and end up “blowing a fuse” where she becomes completely weak for a while because she was overwhelmed with her own power.
If the curse is directly over his heart... Is his heart still beating? Is he still truly alive? Perhaps that why he survived the attack by Dark Enchantress because the soul jam had stopped his heart long ago, the magic coursing through his veins instead of blood, and leaving a man unable to perish.
After all, can your heart really stop if it was never beating at all?
a bunch of people do their takes on the gods of the cookie world, so heres my go of the pantheon. it includes every cookie whos rarity is above epic, which is why clotted and oyster are present!
also i uh. dont know if capsaicin is in the right place? i havent gone through the tri-cone cup story yet ;^^ but he doesnt seem to be exactly mortal.
maybe the spirit section is a hot-take, but when sherbet and stardust came out, it struck me that they looked a lot like wind archer and fire spirit!
May I point out that Oyster’s power was revealed to be stolen from Black Pearl via a pearl taken by her ancestor in the Moonlight Dreams update? She is a mortal, yes, but she stole that power from the mermaid and it says very clearly on Black Pearl’s loading screen that a mermaid who loses her pearl is cursed, thus the issue with her morality and sanity. So she’s not as much a powerful mortal as a thief with a shiny toy, if that makes sense. Her power has a caveat.
Also, Cream Unicorn seems to be under the Mythical Beasts category, as he is one of the few shapeshifters in the cookie realm. Kumiho, Squid Ink, Vampire, and Sorbet Shark also have this ability that makes them stand out, though only Squid Ink has a legend about them. Thoughts?
Our real question then is why Clotted is considered a Super Epic because if all others are either proto-legendaries or stole their power from a legendary being, then it goes to reason that Clotted either stole his power—which seems unlikely due to his nature and search for the soul jam—his father stole power and forced it upon him, or he was born with power or born with the ability to eventually obtain power of his own, which makes the most sense as he is descended from the Vanillian line and attracted the attention of a power-hungry man like Elder Custard.
And then we have Candy Diver Cookie, alongside Pumpkin Pie, Onion, Devil, and Angel, who are all clearly ghosts. Pumpkin Pie is shown to be summoning a demon that she calls her sister who ends up possessing Pom-Pon. Would these fall under spirits? Guides? Or would they be lesser spirits?
And what of the descendants of the Ancient Heroes? How are they classified? Custard III, Princess, and Dark Choco have abilities very similar to their predecessors, and two even possess objects that you could compare to the soul jams, even if one was a cursed sword. (Which it still bothers us that the cursed sword has a gem that is an almost exact replica of Cacao’s soul jam. Was it Choco’s own soul jam that was cursed after he obtained it, or was it cursed when he found it? Why was it cursed? What does Sovereign, who seems to be the manifestation of said curse, have to do with this?)
Sorry, but you’re diagram got us excited. It’s not everyday we see someone else who likes looking at the lore like we do, looking at every bit and piece.
Um… Thoughts? And sorry, we didn’t mean to look like we were attacking your beautiful diagram. That was our bad.
SO. so. i almost had a whole second part of this diagram before i limited it to just the cookies above epic in rating. this would have included the "animal characters" (sorbet, squid ink, and cream unicorn would have gone in this category. as well as crobs cookiemals and like. snake fruit because they kinda became a dragon for a minute?)
it also would have included characters like sugar glass, who is canonically in a very similar situation to moonlight? being made by the wizards for a purpose and then kind of being trapped in that purpose.
i also would have had a "descendants" category!! for folks like dark choco and princess, but that would be complicated since obviously dark choco is more powerful than custard or princess?
and on top of that i was thinking about a category for those specifically tied to gods and such (like madeleine, gingerbrave, and the followers of the dragons/legends like hydrangea or blue lily).
those categories all got scratched because... long. but itd be kinda neat to make another post that includes that kind of thing. and as for the ghosts (though id say that angel and devil are both technically just. those things more than ghosts. pirate cookie is another example of a ghost!) id put them in a differen group altogether! the undead seem to be treated slightly differently than the gods and such? theres a whole ghost hunting cookie in ovenbreak (black garlic)!
*vibrates in excitement* Okay, this is good. Didn’t know about the ghost hunter! Here we go.
You are totally right! Snake Fruit and the Cookiemals would totally fit as animalistic cookies, even if they aren’t shapeshifters. That’s a good point. So would Pinecone (but he might be closer to a guide, as he talks to trees, but I’d like to hear your ideas on that), and I suppose that technically Tiger Lily and Crunchy Chip would half be in this category, but that depends on whether you consider people raised by animals as fitting here. (And I’m pretty sure Tiger Lily is related to almost certainly Pitaya and MAYBE White Lily but that’s another theory entirely.) Snake Fruit might be considered a cookie with at least a legend about them as they were actually predicted by Millennial Cookie who knew Longan’s plan the entire time (see: Millennial Tree’s Relationship Chart)
Sugarglass is a fantastic example! Oh, and you could add Amber to the animal cookies as well! I would also include Stardust and, surprisingly, Wizard Cookie in this “Wizard’s Victims” category as if you examine his dialogue in the City of Wizards, he knows WAY MORE than he should and the Wizard friend of Moonlight insinuates that he will be back so… I don’t know what to make of the little scarfed cookie. Off the top of my head I think he found a secret passage? I’d have to recheck the story to make sure, but he knows things that no one else does, including defenses, the Wizard creation abilities, etc. His knowledge is spooky, okay?
All right, fair, but we should warn you to keep in mind the factors that amount to their power. We’re looking at experience, age, distance from the source of magic in the bloodline, ambition, drive, and knowledge. Choco is absolutely going to be the strongest as he’s the most experienced, oldest, closest in relation to Cacao, and was essentially forced to develop and train his powers to be a weapon for Dark Enchantress. However, Custard III is nothing to scoff at. Keeping in mind that he is a child and likely Pure Vanilla’s first cousin twice-removed (feel free to ask about that one, we’d love to show you what we’ve found), this kid should not have the magic he does! Arguably the strongest Rare in the game, this man canonically holds back DE for a moment, knocking her back long enough for Vanilla to recover and finish the job. He has the limited experience, sure, but he also has the ambition, drive, and knowledge to become a great healer. And his skill is literally a mini Vanilla. Point is, despite his age, that kid is nothing to scoff at. (If you can’t tell, Custard III is one of our favourite cookies and he would have made such a good protagonist for this game instead of GingerBrave.) Princess, on the other hand, is a teenager who a, doesn’t really seem to know much about the power she may have inherited from her grandmother, and b, would much rather be off adventuring and doesn’t seem to care about said magic anyway. Same problem with her twin Tiger Lily. Why she does have a large gem that could work as a pseudo-soul jam like the others, she has no knowledge that we know of regarding her royalty, and so if she has powers, she stumbled on them by accident and practiced them out of survival.
That’s not a bad idea! The followers of deities are definitely powerful people, though not as powerful as say the Ancient Heroes or the thief Oyster. Though I wonder how Blue Lily or Lilybell would be related to White Lily or even Tiger Lily, as we’ve seem family bonds be based on less. *purses lips*
That totally makes sense too. XD We’ve had half the mind to try and make a family tree of the most important cookies in the game and oh stars the family trees get REAL complicated when you start looking between the lines of how some of these people talk to each other… In this update I am 90% sure that Pitaya said an innuendo aimed at Holly. (Holly didn’t notice or didn’t care, it’s a toss-up because the girl is oblivious, man.)
Oh stars, you have no idea how long we’ve wanted to ramble about theories with more people. Our partner has admitted to mixing up canon with theory because of how much we talk about it. XD
so if I’m being honest, the first time I played through episodes 11-12 it was right around the time I first got into the game and was still getting used to the story and characters, so I didn’t really *get* Hollytaya. So with the Hollytaya fanbase currently going insane as we speak I figured it was about time to finally revisit the cutscenes and see what the big deal is and…
…yeah something definitely happened between these two didn’t it
Yep. And there’s proof to back it up. Stars, Lychee and their islander friend have no right to look like these two as much as they do. And the eyes of Tiger Lily… Well, it makes a theorist try to connect some dots, if you know what I mean.
