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@coronavirusnews
The results are promising, but they’re drawn from a very small number of infections.
This is good news! It’s not perfect--notably, the sample size was very small, the study is not peer reviewed, and it’s really hard to store, and therefore distribute this vaccine.
However, it so far seems effective with little to no side-effects in the human trials. There are more details about the hopes and concerns for this vaccine in the article. Let’s cross our fingers!
This is such an important and genuinely terrifying post. I could completely go off on the rise of anti-science, but for now I’ll just add: it isn’t just boomers that get deceived. This is a warning to all of us.
Pay ATTENTION to what you are being told. If you think you cannot be deceived, you leave yourself open to deception. Question, doubt, research research research. Learn about your personal biases, dig up any subconscious cognitive dissonance. Keep an eye on your mind.
IT’S NOT JUST BOOMERS THOUGH
THERE IS NO WAY TO MAKE GOOD USE OF POINTLESS GENERATIONAL DIVISIONS WHICH BTW DO NOT *ACTUALLY* EXIST IN MEAT-VERSE. THERE IS NO AGE LIMIT TO BEING RADICALIZED BY SHITTY PRAXIS. YOU ARE NOT IMMUNE TO PROPAGANDA.
I’ve been thinking about this all morning
I want everyone in America to read this page
Here’s a transcription (for text-to-speech, font changing, translation, whatever):
The discovery of cyanide in Tylenol capsules occurred in those same weeks of October 1982. The existence of the poisoned capsules, all found in the Chicago area, was first reported on October 1. The New York Times wrote a story on the Tylenol scare every day for the entire month of October and produced twenty-three more pieces in the two months after that. Four of the stories appeared on the front page The poisoning received comparable coverage in media across the country, inspiring an immense government effort. Within days of the discovery of what proved to be the only cyanide-laced capsules, the Food and Drug Administration issued orders removing the drug from store shelves across the country. Federal, state, and local authorities were immediately on hand to coordinate efforts in states thousands of miles from where the tampered boxes appeared. No action was too extreme and no expense too great, they insisted, to save lives.
Investigators poured into Chicago to crack the mystery. More than 100 state, federal, and local agents worked the Illinois end of the case alone, filling twenty-six volumes with 11,500 pages of probe reports. The Food and Drug Administration had more than 1,100 employees testing 1.5 million similar capsules for evidence of poisoning, and chasing down every faint possibility of a victim of the new terror, according to the breathless news reports of the time. Tylenol’s parent company, Johnson & Johnson, estimated spending $100 million in the effort. Within five weeks, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services issued new regulations on tamper-resistant packaging to avert repetition of such a tragedy.
In the end, the millions of dollars for CDC Tylenol investigations yielded little beyond the probability that some lone crackpot had tampered with a few boxes of the pain reliever. NO more cases of poisoning occurred beyond the first handful reported in early October. Yet the crisis showed how the government could spring into action, issue warnings, change regulations, and spend money, lots of money, when they thought the lives of Americans were at stake.
Altogether, seven people died from the cyanide-laced capsules; one other man in Yuba City, California, got sick, but it turned out he was faking it so he could collect damages from Johnson & Johnson.
By comparison, 634 Americans had been stricken with AIDS by October 5, 1982. Of these, 260 were dead. There was no rush to spend money, mobilize public health officials, or issue regulations that might save lives.
The institution that is supposed to be the public’s watchdog, the news media, had gasped a collective yawn over the story of dead and dying homosexuals. In New York City, where half the nation’s AIDS cases resided, The New York Times had written only three stories about the epidemic in 1981 and three more stories in all of 1982. None made the front page. Indeed, one could have lived in New York, or in most of the United States for that matter, and not even have been aware from the daily newspapers that an epidemic was happening, even while government doctors themselves were predicting that the scourge would wipe out the lives of tens of thousands.
And now let’s put this in the context of COVID-19…
A total of 7 individuals died due to laced Tylenol. Just yesterday (July 7, 2020), almost 1000 people died in the US due to COVID-19 (993). (https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109281/covid-19-daily-deaths-compared-to-all-causes/)
Imagine if the US responded proportionally to epidemics and pandemics the way they responded to the 1982 Tylenol scare
Life is not worth living anymore. Life will never go back to the way it once was. I have 0 belief there will ever be a vaccine. There is not even one optimistic prospect for the future. I just don’t wanna be around to see what happens anymore.
You’re correct that life won’t go back to the way it once was, but that’s because things never stay the same. Never have, never will.
Every year is different from the previous. Yes, the coronavirus is making things change way faster than we can expect, and right now it’s overall for the worse. Maybe some things will be better after, though! The coronavirus is really exposing a lot of society’s weaknesses and maaaaybe we’ll patch some of them up in a sustainable way.
But I 100% guarantee the pandemic will be a very small portion of your life. I mean, it has only been a few months and your life expectancy is probably around 80 years! I don’t know how old you are but it would be really short-sighted to throw your good decades in the trash for something that could be over within a matter of months.
Some places are experimenting with opening up, and even though they might have to close back down again, and that might be a bad idea at this moment, we know they will open up safely and generally more fully eventually. There are some good minds working on some potentially promising vaccines and the governments are funding and helping these trials get off the ground extra speedily. If not a vaccine, then maybe we’ll develop immunity, or something. Solutions are in the air.
Here’s some reading bout how the pandemic will end. The reason that you don’t see articles saying “Yes, it will end” is because it’s obvious. MOST OF YOUR LIFE WILL BE NOT LIKE THIS!
Take some time to take care of your mental health for a few months and it will be the best investment you ever made. Here’s a CDC guide. In short, remember:
- It’s ok and normal to feel bad and stressed right now, but remember that these feelings will end and you probably have good ones too that you’re not thinking about at this very moment
- Make the best of this in whatever way you can, whether that means just surviving until things are better, or reconnecting with solo hobbies, or learning to love Zoom, or helping others
- Everyone loves therapy! A therapist can address your specific feelings a lot better than I can. Here’s a guide on how to get it in quarantine. I know therapists can be expensive but there are a lot of ways to find ones that take your insurance and there are some free help lines out there. Remember that being dead is WAY worse and 100% more permanent than being broke.
- Take a break from the news. You’ll know if something really important happens.
The coronavirus outbreak in New York City became the primary source of infections around the United States, researchers have found.
Over all, Dr. Grubaugh estimated, infections spreading from New York account for 60 to 65 percent of the sequenced viruses across the country.
Some scientists are saying they’d like a little more data before they confirm that most coronavirus cases in the US were seeded from New York but it’s pretty likely that NY was a major hub.
I live in NYC and I’d estimate that nearly half of my friends have evacuated the city. I can’t really blame them; people act in their own best interest and no public official had really warned about the dangers of bringing the virus with them to their parents’ rural town or vacation community at the time most of them left. I will say that now that you’re reading this, please don’t travel unnecessarily, but you have to make the decision and consider your own mental health.
It does bug me when people say that by fleeing they’re “helping to relieve the stress on the NYC health system!” If you really need to do something that is demonstrably a risk to public health, fine, just please don’t pretend you’re a hero for it. Wherever you go, that place also has a health system you’re risking. Just admit you wanted to hang out at a lake/large house/without your roomies for a month.
Which one's better? N95 or surgical masks?
N95 is more protective.
Are children/teens more or less likely to die from COVID-19
Less likely, but it happens.
Will corona ever go away? Is there hope for the future
I’m confident that Covid-19 will stop impacting the world in the way that it is now.
I don’t know if or when it will go away per se but looking back at other pandemics, we have always bounced back as a society, whether that means eradicating it or generally gaining herd immunity or something else.
I’m a bit worried about the distribution of a vaccine whenever one is made, that the upper class will hoard and charge unnecessarily. What do you think will happen? Is this an irrational paranoia to have? What happens the moment a vaccine or cure is discovered? That’s the only worry I have left now, is the cure being dangled over our heads out of reach once it’s made...
America has a history of saying “if you’re sick we can exploit you to death! hahaha you should have been born rich like me! Otherwise just die and infect your neighborhood, oh well!” But with all the eyes on coronavirus, even powerful people are saying “we want to protect people’s health and welfare! We need paid sick leave! We need free testing! But only for this one thing. Because we see on a large scale that it can affect rich people too.”
In short, I believe that intense public scrutiny will kick the ass of anyone who tries to overcharge for a corona vaccine, and it will be made free, or at least very cheap and covered by most/all insurance plans.
I'm really scared that the country and the economy will collapse, and that the life I knew before all this is effectively over, what can I so to keep myself from worrying, and is there a timeline for when things will start opening again?
Life will not be the same again. But this storm won’t last forever.
We can look at history and know that after all these tragedies life, on average, can go back to a time of normalcy and non-perpetual terror, of a functioning economy and life that has a reasonable balance of ups and downs. Experts are generally very hesitant to suggest any sort of timeline of opening things up. We’re not going to see free reign this month or next IMO. When things do start opening up, it will be a slow rollout. And then maybe a rollback here and there, and another rollout, and controversy about whether the lifting of restrictions was too fast or slow. If you want a more specific frame of reference from me personally: I do not think that my plans for a bike tour, conference and convention in October are going to happen.
First a somber note where it is due: Things will never be the same for those who die. Not one of the bodies in the ground will pick themselves up and move past this so I cannot say that we will all be ok. Their family members will be varying degrees of hurt. Many struggling businesses and probably even industries will die permanently.
But psychologically we humans have a huge capacity for regressing to the mean after something terrible (or even really good) happens. Some combination of the various attempts to address the coronavirus will work: mass testing, a vaccine, people developing immunity? Economically, we may see new industries open up; there are even some jobs that are currently hiring more than usual. (But it’s still very, very bad overall at this moment!)
And maybe some things will be better. It was clear to a lot of us that many aspects of the US government and economy are absurdly dangerous and unfair and deadly, and the coronavirus is bringing those very clearly to light. Maybe some of these changes we’re doing in response to the coronavirus can be made permanent to protect people’s health and finances in a more general and long-lasting way. I hope so...although I could imagine the gov learning nothing and continuing to destroy lives with medical and financial unfairness in the same way they always do....but since we don’t know, maybe focus on the potential for improvement.
I’m not sure what I can offer psychologically to help you feel better. I don’t know anything about the risk to you personally but I can say that the vast majority of the world will feel ok again and this will only represent a small portion of our lives. That doesn’t make it ok for the minority who will not recover, but it’s something.
Is a cure for covid-19 been discovered?
not yet
Is it a right thing to stop buying foods by delivery order?
Current recommendations are that you should try to get your food by delivery and tip generously. Here are some other tips for food/grocery safety.
Do we know if it's evolved? I worry it'll mutate into something worse.
It is evolving, but not into something worse, and slowly enough that we’re not worried that it will outpace the development of a vaccine. In short, yes it’s changing, but it’s not a big concern.
Should we cancel summer activities or is it okay if we sanitize everything and social distance? I know its early to tell. But I still wonder.
It is pretty early to tell but a lot of places are canceling their summer activities like summer camps with lots of people. Sadly I don’t think this situation will be anywhere close to normal by the summer, but that’s just my estimate. My estimate is changing every day based on the news that comes out...but it honestly looks worse and worse and like it’s going to go on longer and longer all the time. A lot could potentially change by then, I would say not to put down any non-refundable deposits.
Mask talk: On social media all I ever see are people suggesting really thin DIY masks- what's their ACTUAL effectiveness? I think it's more psychological and to save supplies when doctors on the news say, "but save the higher grade masks for doctors only."
Study says: “Both [surgical and homemade] masks significantly reduced the number of microorganisms expelled by volunteers, although the surgical mask was 3 times more effective in blocking transmission than the homemade mask.”
They are definitely more effective than nothing, the concern is mostly that we don’t want people 1) using masks that medical professionals need, 2) thinking that masks are an effective replacement for social distancing, or 3) being recommended things that aren’t that effective, in case next time you don’t believe them. The CDC has just started recommended that people voluntarily wear “cloth face coverings” where social distancing is hard, like at the grocery store and pharmacy.
Here’s some more about the debate.
And now the CDC finally recommends people to wear masks. A few thousand deaths too late ain’t it?
Well, I doubt we'll know how many, if any, lives they would have saved if they had made the recommendation earlier. Or if people would have died because they bought too many N95's and there weren't enough for medical personell etc. However they are recommending masks now so that's what we should go with.
could you briefly explain to me what is coranavirus so that i can understand? I'm still kind of confused about this.
Coronaviruses are a group of viruses including SARS and MERS, but when we say "the coronavirus” these days we are speaking specifically of the "2019 novel coronavirus” that causes the illness caused Covid-19.
Covid-19 creates flu-like symptoms that can be mild and sometimes you don’t even know you have it. However the symptoms are occasionally so severe that patients need to be at an ICU until it passes just so that they can breathe right, or until they die. This is more common in people who are immunocompromised or very old. The fact that the virus is so transmissible and also more deadly than the common flu makes it a big deal. While the average human has a small chance of dying from it, the case are high enough in number that health care systems in many cities aren’t equipped for so many people at once. This means that it’s increasingly difficult to care for anyone with any issue, Covid-19 or not, because hospitals are scrambling so badly. Here is an FAQ from the CDC.
Is "having a positive COVID-19 result" and "dying of xyz range of exacerbated causes" currently the way that COVID deaths are being determined, or is there something else to it?
Hmmm I’m not super sure about this, I would imagine that there isn’t really robust enough information to know for sure what percent of deaths are affected by other factors, and to what extent. Or what the coronavirus does to people with other illnesses. The conclusion of this study says that: Among laboratory-confirmed cases of Covid-19, patients with any comorbidity yielded poorer clinical outcomes than those without. A greater number of comorbidities also correlated with poorer clinical outcomes.
So if your Covid-19 gets bad enough that you go to a hospital, haveing other diseases makes you more likely to die during that stay at the hospital. Not exactly sure if that means that Covid-19 is killing a lot of people by making their other illnesses worse, but I could see that happening when you consider the symptoms.
