Unfortunately I Also Lust For The Old Man

Nat // 26 // they/he IWTV/TVL sideblog for the brainworms to flourish in their own bespoke enclosure

[danielsfixes]

You said you have me there!!!! If it’s a triple dog dare!!!

Meant to get this out before season 3 premiered, but alas! Here’s a tearful palate cleanser with our girls before the last 2 episodes ❤️🫩

I don’t know who a 7 minute Lucy Dacus Claudeline video is for other than @louisinart-like-cuisinart and myself but 🥳

[professional-rat-eater]

Totally not a targeted post, but if you really need closure from an ex, it’s generally a good idea to just reach out to them. Try directly talking to them before any impulsive beheadings and torture. (No, no one believes you really planned that from the beginning. You are bad at planning.)

[yaoiblackmold]

Eric Bogosian as Daniel Molloy in The Vampire Lestat

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want to make a post but idk how to word it

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something about lestat’s utter lack to align himself with fatherhood this season, but often being compared to being a mother with a womb (see how gabrielle says “i see why you gave him a daughter” and lestat saying about being forced by his mother to watch people burning as “that’s what moms do” and him furthering that by telling gabrielle “you were a terrible mother” and him saying tc’s drums need to sound like a child being extracted from a mother’s womb and then saying that tc’s drum is his heart/he ends up literally turning tc…)

because as we already know lestat views womanhood/motherhood as lesser than himself (see how he feminized louis in s1 as a way to gain power over louis)….and while he’s shirking the blame of his abusive tendencies, he actively chooses to align himself with womanhood to avoid taking blame for his actions….the white woman tears of it all

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[cuntylestat]

it's really never loustatover

[professional-rat-eater]

The scariest part of the 52 years of stalking isn’t even the stalking. It’s that Armand knows every bad thing Daniel has ever done and he doesn’t care.

Daniel knows he’s an asshole. He’s potentially the most self-aware character. He knows he hurt his ex-wives and his daughters. He understands that they hate him and he frequently validates their decision to do so. He gets it. He’s not hiding from his mistakes. He knows what he’s done. People leave him because anyone sane would. There’s no malice there. He knows who he is.

But here is this beautiful, ancient creature who has lived through some of the most incredible periods of human innovation in modern history, who lived in Renaissance Venice and witnessed Paris return to its former glory after World War 2 , who has been exposed to some of the most important works of art in history, who has had so much time to absorb humanity and all its most impressive creations, and this creature tells him he’s in love with him, some random kid he met half a century ago by chance.

And not just that he’s in love with him. That he was actively in love with him while he was doing all the terrible things. None of it ever mattered. Armand has seen every shade of Daniel’s soul, more than anyone else ever has, and he is in love with him because of it. It is one thing to have your mistakes exposed, it’s another entirely for someone to see them and decide to stay.

Armand has so freely given to Daniel what he has been trying to find for himself for half a millennia. The only thing he has ever wanted: to be truly known and accepted for everything you are, including the unseemly, ugly parts. How utterly and completely terrifying.

[soliloqueeer]

I think this is the most dangerous and beautiful aspect of their relationship. As an addict, so much of your life is wrestling with the disease and the way it impacts those around you. Imagine all of the shame and guilt left in the wake of the things you did a rock bottom. Armand is someone born centuries ago who exists completely outside of the spectrum of contemporary human morality. Imagine someone being a spectre to the worst things you’ve ever done and still loving you. It’s salvation but it can also be damnation. Because humans have limits, no matter how much they love you. So what happens when the devil loves you for all the damned things you’ve done?

[irisbleufic]

When a human says “I love you unconditionally,” there’s this sense of wistfulness because…no, there are always conditions. You just haven’t found those limits yet. Pray that you never do.

When a vampire says “I love you unconditionally,” fuck. They’ve seen and done it all. Whatever you’ve done, it can’t possibly be worse. The worst in you is a feature, not a bug. It’s just true.

[veryintricaterituals]

And he turned him... He saw everything, the good, the bad, the horrible, the very ugly and he said: you should have eternity, I think you should live forever

[tarmairons]

INTERVIEW WITH THE VAMPIRE (2022-) | S03E07

[fascinationstreetmp3]

Assad Zaman as Armand / Christopher Heyerdahl as Marius de Romanus

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no but like lestat keeps being drawn to the non-sexual intimacy he shares with louis, with brushing of their hands, the moments of their pinkies touching......................................like that's so hugely important to lestat in a sea of hypersexualization, the fact that he and louis connect on a deep level....so to have their final scene being them lovingly touching each other's neck scars...

[freddos616]

loumand is such a good ship that even their biggest L's turn out to be W's in disguse. had me panicked bc surely armand's forced torture therapy is gonna end in a loumand double divorce? little did i know they just took the first steps to reconcilliation.

[s0ftestbeigestpillow]

armand really took that "bad hair day" comment seriously and showed up with the nicest curls

[i-know-the-enddc]

Things I wasn’t: Things I was not And you got some reason to be dark sided, Armand And you - - you have some reason to be dark sided Armand You were sold by who you were sold by 🧔🏾‍♂️💻 fareed typing noise You were sold by who you were sold by Sold into what you were sold into -Sold into what you were - - - - … I saw a lot of that in New Orleans -Saw a lot of that in new Orléans On the opposite shore On the opposite shore Running houses I ran 🔸🔸……. You and I didn’t…. You and I… Didn’t talk about it much We didn’t talk about it much.🥴 With you… Shut it off☝🏾 regina being tortured and bled out noises all fareeds shit falls off his desk 🤨 Cause I didn’t wanna think on my own sins Or picture you at 12. At 12 😰 … You were 12 😰 Scared. 😰 Mm 🔸🔸🙁 Poor boy, 😰 Arun. You need a love that’ll cradle you 🔸🔸 💧💧 You should have that. And I was never that for you 🫢 armand expressing more emotion then we have ever seen regina bleeding out louis decapitated body My coldness, my denial, Drove you to this 🩸🩸 I saw good in you…. the most painful attempt at holding back tears I’ve ever seen put to film ….for a while.. *Armand crying while trying to cover his face* louis decapitated head serene music, sigh fareed looking mad as hell 🔸👄🔸 healing her wounds: Bad things happen to girlies who talk *sobbing* AHHHUUH 🏃🏾‍♀️🏃🏾‍♀️

[duriens]

on Louis' apology to Armand:

(this gets pretty long)

what I find brilliant about the Armand and Louis scene in 7 is that of course the Vampire Armand would have wanted an apology. let's take off our Fan Glasses and stop thinking about our favorite characters as people for a second. they're monsters in human relationships.

Armand and Louis are exes and their relationship lasted more than half a century and it was built on murders and lies, lies woven by the two of them, and in Armand's perspective it doesn't matter which lie is bigger and which act was more monstrous. he is not weighing his murderous play against Louis' indifferent treatment of him. he's not trying to win the argument of Who Is The Biggest Liar or The Biggest Victim. he's done terrible things to Louis, he tried to kill him, he killed his daughter, he took credit for saving his life, he trapped him in a love that was a coffin, he fucked with his head. all these things he did. he also tried to keep their relationship afloat as long as possible, because it's what he does, it's what he thought he had to do. and then the house of cards crumbled in front of his eyes, destroyed by the same man he's always been obsessed with, he's always loved, maybe, and 77 years of weaving lies and adjusting truths to accomodate their relationship and make it work went down the drain and this upsets him so, so much, because it means that all he did was for naught: "half a century wasted". of course he'd want to have it out with Louis, of course it's Louis he wants to monologue at right now, not Lestat: it's still not Lestat's turn. Lestat's influence on Armand goes deeper and is more complex than what has been freshly destroyed here, and what we saw so far between the two of them is barely the tip of the iceberg. we DID see the entire iceberg disintegrating when it comes to Loumand, and it needed addressing. (the corpse of this relationship is fresh and stinks, the corpse of whatever it was with Lestat has been hidden away and rotted through and you need to dig deeper to find it: that's for future seasons to dig it up.)

and Armand addresses the situation in the only way he's capable of, so far. he kidnaps his latest ex and tortures him, cause it's his way, and it has always been, he tortured Lestat and Claudia in the books after all, are we forgetting that?

he's Louis' ex and he feels wronged. he feels he did everything he could to make it work and he went to such lengths to keep Louis bound to him, to clean his image to be worthy of Louis' love. it wasn't enough for Louis. it wasn't even enough for Armand himself, and he admits this in the episode, when he says that he's not sure he's ever even loved him. it's all a mess and it started with Lestat, but Armand is not ready to process his history with Lestat yet, so he does the next logical thing: the freshest, not the greatest maybe,wound is with Louis. and he thinks that in this divorce they are both at fault, like so often happens in divorces. sure he did monstrous things, but he's the protagonist of his story. he feels hurt too, he feels angry, he feels that all he did for Louis and the relationship they built together was worth a forgiveness for his part in Paris, and in his skewed perspective, of course even the sins recently discovered should have been forgiven considering all his efforts.

but now he knows Louis had never forgiven him, Louis doesn't plan on forgiving anything. and Armand admits it: Louis is his Claudia, he had been obsessed with getting his forgiveness for 77 years, and is still hung up on it. so, of course he's stuck on the apology. he's been apologizing to everyone, why can't he get an apology too? he asks for one, he thinks he knows what he wants Louis to be sorry for. and then he gets what he didn't expect. he gets an apology that was delivered half in duress, half from a very dark, but also genuine, space (as Jacob Anderson himself said.) and he can't cope with that apology. it was too much and it went too deep, and it touched on their 77yo relationship, on the obsession/love with Daniel, on Lestat's influence on him all these years. and so he let him live, and went away, probably to find a love that will cradle him. somebody he now calls "companion" so readily, so quickly, that probably does not call him that yet, except sarcastically, but that will come to see him as a companion in the future.

I think, *spoilers from Qotd* since Armand is part of the gang that will try to save Lestat from Akasha in the books, they are trying to very slowly change the dynamic between the major characters and Armand, because so far he's hated and despised and snubbed, but it needs to change for further collaboration. but since Armand is such a complex and monstrous character the understanding of his character can't come in a perfectly clean, sanitized, or healthy way. it had to come from a monstrous experience, under terrifying circumstances, as is often the way with vampires. it doesn't make it less true. and Louis is the first character to "see" Armand. It makes the very first scene with them being "cordial" with e/o at the auction more believable and understandable. Next, it'll probably be Daniel. Daniel is already collaborating with Armand, although we don't know the extent of his trust toward Armand and the quality of their rapport (no, I don't believe they are romantically involved yet). But he'll come around soon. The others, Marius, Pandora, etc. they will come in S4 probably, and they have their own dynamic with Armand. And Lestat is the very last one. he's the protagonist of the series and the special snowflake of the saga, let's be honest, and of course he will be the last stitch in the tapestry of Armand's character development, cause they are part of each other's development, always have been.

[cannibalspicnic]

I get why people think Armand was acting like an evil mastermind in the last ep when he revealed his plan with Regina, but to me it seemed like a very in-character following of a thread of obsession that spiraled into a massive, complex, multi-layered plan in hindsight.

I don't think when he went looking for someone who looked like Claudia he'd really mapped the rest of it out yet other than finding the tool that he could use to hurt Louis the most. Everything after that, I think included a lot of improvisation. And I think he was curious to see how Louis would react and was happy to keep escalating things with him and Regina for that reason. It was only when Louis stopped seeing Regina that Armand made his move.

And collecting cult followers might not seem like a thing he'd do because initially he was forced to lead them, but he's having a crisis of identity on so many different levels. It makes sense to me that he'd fall back into the familiar, no matter what he means to do with them.

Anyway, I do not think Armand was out of character at all. I think he was acting out of desperation. I don't think Louis' severed head in a butcher shop was the big plan. It was just where each desperate decision ended up leading.

[pretty-ichor]

i love how armand is the most in his element when he has kidnapped someone and is torturing them. it just feels so natural. and he looks his hottest too

[cbrownjc]

Daniel's POV is likely coming in Season 4, according to Rolin Jones:

(Source)

Okay, so Rolin seems to be saying that we will get Daniel's POV of things, at the very least, in Season 4.

Which, yes, in my opinion, means some sort of adaptation of past Devil's Minion, since, as I have long said, it is from Daniel's POV that that story/chapter is told from.

And because the show was clearly sticking to the structure of the books, that meant, when adapting the TVL book, that meant, of course, we'd only get Lestat's POV of things in Season 3.

And yes, it would be one of the (many) reasons why we'd get little to no Devil's Minion in Season 3.

Because DM wasn't even in the TVL book. But, after watching Season 3, it is also likely because Lestat didn't care enough to tell much of it, if there was anything to tell.

So if anyone wants to fanwank it, at least in-universe of the show, then the little we saw with Armand and Daniel this season was because Lestat didn't care to tell anything except the bare minimum about them, which is all he may have known/been told about/even cared to tell about it afterwards.

Which, you know, given the whole head-chopping off thing they did to him and Louis? Okay. Makes sense in my opinion.

Anyway, I'd been trying to warn that the show was strictly sticking to the POVs we'd get in each book for the majority of things. That was one of the major things I noticed about the show at the end of Season 2.

So yeah, I figured going into Season 3 that this would continue to be the deal, and just one of the many reasons why we'd get next to nothing regarding Devil's Minion in Season 3. Because we weren't going to be getting Daniel's POV of things this season.

And only once we did start to get Daniel's POV, that would be when we'd get the adaptation of the Devil's Minion chapter, at the very least. Along with anything else that might be going on with Armand and Daniel in the present day, since that matches up with the Queen of the Damned book as well. Everything that happened during Lestat's concert and afterward was told by Daniel when he had something to say about it.

And so, finally getting Daniel's POV and therefore actually showing Armand and Daniel's relationship -- in the past and the present -- looks like it will happen starting in Season 4.

And I am holding you to that, Rolin! Because yes, even though I expected the bare minimum when it comes to Armand and Daniel this season, the way the final episode went -- and that we are still waiting for some reveals that we should have gotten by now -- had me beginning to worry how long you were going to start dragging other things out as well, such as this.

So please don't start dragging this out as well, and just get on with it already. 😑

[autarkiia]

computa, show me ten thousand gifs of armand crying