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[spikedaily]

What is this to you? This thing we have? Buffy and Spike in Buffy the Vampire Slayer (seasons 5, 6 & 7).

[alphacomicsvol2]

Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic - War #2 Cover Art by Benjamin Carre

[spine-juice]

Re-reading the joyous comic again and it’s fuckin evil what they did to Jarael. Like— why is she damsel in distress now after the adaska arc??? That’s Zayne’s job??? Let Jarael beat more people up. It’s enrichment for her.

[rabemar]

[forcesavetheclones]

Messing around with nurses😋😋😋

aaand introducing one of my OCs, Aurora Sottara. I’ll maybe colour it later but just thought line art already looks good enough.

finished here

[dralruni]

wip posting again u love to see it

[yasyart]

Maybe apple was rotten from the beginning

Just a silly thing that I did on my way from work

[carrion-art]

Mandalorians are insane about pickling: prove me wrong

cut up veg, stick it in a jar with water, salt, sugar, and acid and seasoning and then leave it somewhere until it becomes delicious

shelf stable veggies indefinitely. delicious tasty treat

bury them or hide them in caches like chipmunks, whenever construction gets done they find jars of pickled snacks like mosaics in Rome

[ranahan]

Yes! This is my headcanon also. Also the pickles are spiced. Also there are pickled spices.

I needed a name though, but first: dumplings. They’re called doughboys in NZ English, so they became shunade. Pickles could then be “briny boys,” or shosirade. From *sho- ‘sea’ (but I like to think other salt watery things as well) + isir ‘taste’ (the root is *sir-) + ad.

shosirad (n), Mandalorian pickles, spiced and fermented vegetables somewhat like kimchi, made from various different vegetables. A staple of Mandalorian cuisine, eaten as side dishes, condiments, sandwich toppings, as breakfast food with eggs or porridge, and as an ingredient in soups and stews.

[howdidthisevenhappenanyway]

I remember I was so brain fogged when OP posted this but I was v enthused all the same

there are also quite a few preserves that involve no added liquid but sugar or salt (and any flavourings like spices), and the fruit and the added preservative create their own liquid

for earth reference, I’m talking about preserved lemons and cheong, among others

so yeah I defs agree that as well as freeze drying stuff and perhaps sun baking when on manda’yaim or other sun baked places, preserving would also be popular. tangy pickle goes so well with spicy hot after all!

when I got into cheong I wondered if that could be how uj syrup is made. you can dry the fruit you used to make cheong and it becomes delicious candy!

[thornb4ck]

just helping her girlfriend out with the lip liner .3.

[dralruni]

Jarael moodboard too. Not sure if this is accurate to her at all but I’ve loved her without rereading the comics for so many years I feel like I’ve imbued her with a piece of my soul so

[dralruni]

Zayne Carrick moodboard is this anything

[dralruni]

old drawing + cosplans for jarael!! my sweet sweet girl… i love her so bad

[bryndza]

have some late XIX au because why not

[spine-juice]

Bunch of silly Kotor comic sketches of some characters from the panels.

[bryndza]

I just love drawing her so much

[prokopetz]

Boring: Assigning "levels of canon" to Star Wars media.

Not boring: Construing all Star Wars media as variously motivated propaganda which actually exists in some notional Star Wars universe, ostensibly based on but often only tenuously related to real events, and loudly speculating about what "really happened".

[prokopetz]

#i am contractually obligated to say name ONE political agenda benefitting from the droids cartoon ill wait (via @cosmik-homo)

That one wasn't motivated by any particular propaganda goal; the studio just wanted to cash in on the fame of the heroes of the Rebellion, but they were too cheap to pay for the likeness rights, so they wrote out all the real humans and just used the droids (who don't have rights).

[estrogenesis-eeveeangelion]

my brother and i had a theory growing up that the original trilogy & the prequels are all unreliable-narrated by R2-D2 as he is the only character who has presence & continuity through all six films, and therefore that any plot holes or problems with the lore are a result of his exaggerations and distortions, because, as we know, R2-D2 is a liar

[corpsegirlimmortal]

According to primary sources, the people of Mandalore suffered a genocide at the hands of their "pacifist" reformist faction. Also According to primary sources, half of all Mandalorians were later wiped out by *another* faction of Mandalorians called the Death Watch, who in turn were decimated by the sole survivor of the primary faction. Several years later, the pacifists would be defeated by a massive faction of Death Watch would completely annihilate the pacifists, while the original faction of Mandalorians mysteriously repopulated on the moon.

There is much debate as to how the Mandalorians seem to always be wiped out only to spring back up fully intactva single year later. While this is obviously because *everyone* talks about killing all of their enemies whenever they win a single fight, most historians agree that the Death Watch didn't exist until the rise of the Empire. Despite a dedicated public history of the Death Watch raiding planetary settlements since the Old Republic. This id because galactic historians are morons.

[ranahan]

Unfortunately Mandalore’s census records were destroyed in the Night of a Thousand Tears, and the imperial copies were later destroyed when the Rebels attacked an imperial records centre on Scarif. Most of the remaining sources are propaganda from one or another faction that was disseminated outside of the Mandalorian space, or third-system news articles that are more concerned with speculating on the effect of the instability of Mandalorian politics on their own systems rather than accurately reporting on the specifics events on Mandalore.

Given that the Republic had long had an interest in Mandalore’s internal politics, the Republic records would be an intriguing source. Unfortunately, the records at the Jedi Temple were also destroyed at the tail end of the Clone Wars. The records of the Republic Judicial Commission are still classified, prompting much speculation and several widely-spread conspiracy theories regarding Jedi-led secret missions against various factions of Mandalorians.

tldr: the morons are those hacks who claim to know for certain what happened during this period of Mandalorian history, when any galactic historian worth their salt knows the deplorable state of primary sources. Several research proposals have been made to obtain copies of private records of surviving Mandalorian clans, but given their experiences with the Republic and the Empire (which they often see as interchangeable), so far no copies have been obtained and no one has received a (legitimate) permit for excavations on Mandalore itself (beskar items of dubious provenance keep appearing on the market, but these could be imperial loot predating NoaTT).

[ranahan]

Random headcanon:

Been reading law for two days and my brain is smoking. Anyway. I think there would be some significant ways in which mando law would differ from what I’ve been learning:

I think Mandalorian law would not be the same for Mandalorians and aruetiise, even if the aruetiise lived in Mandalorian space. For example, I think the cases of an outsider challenging the reigning Mand’alor might be cases of the Mand’alor deciding to honour that challenge rather than the outsider having a right to it.

The specific laws concerning aruetiise in Mandalorian space originally derive from the laws concerning conquered thralls populations in the Mandalorian Empire.

Children too young to swear the Resol’nare (and thus prove their knowledge of the law) have special protected status and are not subject to e.g. criminal punishments. Adult Mandalorian foundlings and adults unable to swear due to e.g. developmental conditions also fit into this category in most cases. If a child/ward commits a crime it would most likely be on the buir or vergebuir who failed in their duty to guard them.

Psychotic breaks on the other hand are categorised as injuries preventing one from fulfilling their lawful duties, not inability to understand and be bound by law.

Mandalorians are nomadic, so Mandalorian law is not explicitly confined to Mandalorian space, but binds Mandalorians wherever they go. This of course does create conflicts with Mandalorian enclaves and the governments of the worlds they inhabit.

[ranahan]

I think one of the main cultural and legal differences between us, or The Republic, and Mandalorians might be that for us, war is something special. It’s the exception to the norm. But I think that for Mandalorians that is not the case.

If Mandalore goes to war, there would be no special martial law declared. The Mand’alor’s law is the martial law.

There is no real separation between soldiers and civilians. Sure, some (actually most) have support roles rather than direct combat roles, but every Mandalorian is a soldier. If the Mand’alor calls, everybody answers. This is why Mandalore also doesn’t really have such a thing as child soldiers. Just children that got adult responsibilities too early.

The Mand’alor is more of a supreme commander of the armed forces rather than a president or a king. There’s probably large areas (of private life, clan matters, etc) where they actually don’t have authority, but where they do have authority, it’s military chain of command, not parliamentary consensus.

[ranahan]

I went on a bit of a dive into some historical legal systems and then work caught up with me and I forgot about this post. Anyway, more thoughts!

Criminal law

The main forms of criminal punishment are paying recompense, exile and death.

Mandalorians being nomadic (this would include military campaigns), imprisonment would be impractical as a punishment. I think Mandalorian prisons/brigs would be for short-term containment of criminals/suspects who are considered at risk for continuing their crimes or fleeing, not for long-term punishment. Mando justice would tend to be swift and straightforward.

Mandalorians value their people and work force highly, so I don’t think they would go for “eye for an eye, hand for hand” kind of corporal punishments. If a criminal can be put to work, they’re put to work; if they’re too dangerous for that, they’re put down. They wouldn’t waste resources by maiming people.

So I think Mandalorian punishments would tend towards recompensing the offended party. Recompense would be comparatively generous towards the victim/harsh for the offender, perhaps based on x times of the value of the unlawfully gained benefit/caused harm, x depending on the crime. You would be expected to pay off the debt as long as there’s debt. In Mandalorian space, this is would be strictly enforced. For example, if you contracted work through a mando guild, the guild would leave you just enough for necessary expenses and forward the rest of your pay to the victim.

Legally, it’s the clan that’s ultimately responsible for paying the recompense, not only the individual. An individual can run away, a whole clan can’t. This ensures the injured party gets what they’re due; the clan effectively enforces following the law on its members (on the pain of having to collectively pay for its members’ misdeeds); and the clan members can later recoup their money from the offender. Try running away from your entire extended family!

Mando law takes debts very seriously. Legally, a recompense is a type of debt. And similarly, debts can ultimately be collected from your clan.

It would be possible to avoid paying the debt by working outside of the Mandalorian space, but this would in practice amount to a self-imposed exile.

Having paid one’s entire debt in full might also be a reason to wear white on one’s armour. Being in the process of paying it off might be a reason to wear silver.

For more severe crimes, the punishment would be either exile or death. Being declared as dar’manda is a kind of religious ban, being declared a persona non grata for other Mandalorians. But I’m not sure whether that’s a religious or legal or both thing? There might be a difference between the two, or they could be the same thing. I tend to think there’s no separation between religious and secular law with Mandalorians, at least originally. Though the post-excision legal code is probably a different matter.

Being exiled is a type of being dar’manda: outside of the Mandalorian culture and Mandalorian law, without its duties and protections. Legally, a person who is dar’manda is treated as an aruetii.

Mandalore’s tendency to banish their criminals does contribute towards the bad image of Mandalorians in the rest of the galaxy. It’s not just that they’re mercenaries, it’s also that some of the mando gunslingers are working outside of Mandalore because they can’t work on Mandalore.

Another reason why Mandalorians get a bad rep is because legally, the Mandalorian law binds them wherever in the Galaxy they go, and many mando’ade tend to rate following Mandalorian law above following local laws. Following Mandalorian law is a matter of creed; following local laws is just a practical matter of being able to do business there. If one of their members gets into legal trouble, the entire clan may just decide to pick up and leave rather than give up one of their own to the local law enforcement.

[ranahan]

More thoughts on remuneration:

It seems that holding the aliit communally responsible is common among nomadic cultures (whose legal codes I was able to find information on).

If the convicted is unable to pay the whole sum, they will work it off. If they refuse to pay, their aliit is held responsible for the payment (and they can later remunerate themselves from the convicted clansman, if they’re able). If the aliit refuses to pay, the victim and/or their aliit are allowed to remunerate themselves from the property of the convicted or if they’re unable, the aliit of the convicted (=raiding), but only to the extend of the remuneration set by the court/judge which is to be presented to the court/judge for counting after its seizure. Property exceeding the value of the set remuneration is to be returned.

Of course, allowing people to sometimes apply law themselves + the allowance to get remuneration by raiding, does sometimes result in people deciding that there’s no higher authority at hand, passing judgement themselves, demanding their recompense/property back, and when none is coming, going raiding for it. Which would result in the other party defending themselves, and repeating the procedure, creating a vicious circle of revenge.

This might even have been one factor contributing to the clan wars or other internal wars: after the breakage/annihilation of traditional Mandalorian justice system/customs, people might have been more likely to result to applying the law themselves.

Most crimes incur penalties paid in money and/or valuables or property equal to the amount of money set in the law. Some crimes may additionally incur penalties paid in beskar, measured in beskandi (a traditional Mandalorian unit of weight/money, based on an ingot of beskar).

Unlawful manslaughter or maiming is compensated based on the economic value of the person to an aliit (i.e. lost income) or their value to the clan’s survival (i.e. gorane and children incur greater penalties) or honour (alore may incur greater penalties?), not on the person’s status or gender. Permanent disability might be fined the same as life. Limb would perhaps be some set fraction of that.

Cumulative remuneration: i.e. the murder of a clansman would require remuneration of the value lost to their aliit (or a payment of a warrior instead) AND death of the murderer. The latter could with the agreement of the injured clan be commuted to doubling the monetary remuneration OR paying them with a warrior in turn. The warrior would be honour-bound to serve their new aliit loyally and the aliit in turn would be honour-bound to treat them well; if the warrior would be disloyal, the clan could demand the original punishment be applied; if the warrior was mistreated, they would have the right to return to their original clan. Slaying the hostage-warrior would be equivalent to murder AND loss of honour.

I don’t feel like mandos would practice blood revenge, i.e. the right to slay the murderer’s kinsman in retaliation. But they might accept a warrior for a warrior as recompense. But I do think the clan of the slain would have the right to slay the convicted murderer if they were unable to be brought to a court of law.

Mandalorian law generally treats beskar’gam separately from other property, and more like crimes against life or limb. For example, if an unlawful murder also results in the loss of the victim’s armour, then the perpetrator also has to return the armour or if unable, provide another set of beskar’gam (or an equal weight of beskar + extra for forging) in its stead. In a way, a warrior is both the body and the beskar. A life can be exchanged for money, but beskar can only be paid back in beskar (or at a much higher monetary price if truly unable).

A full set of beskar’gam can sometimes stand in for the price of life (the assumption being that a new warrior can therefore be equipped for the injured clan). If the perpetrator was sentenced to death or exile, the beskar might be theirs (i.e. the recompense would include both the return of the victim’s armour or equivalent + the extra set). This is fairly rare because credit for credit, a set of haat beskar’gam may be considerably more expensive than paying the weregild and spiritually much more significant. You’d be more likely to see this kind of repayment in cases where the crime incurred considerable dishonour upon the clan of the offender.