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saw this thumbnail while downloading star wars music from youtube:
vader is 6'8". either revan is standing on a box or vader is sitting down
The reference sheet for my Exile is finally done! Fostril Kerse, certified good girl who's been through... some shit. The jedi symbol on her armor she carved herself. Was that a good idea? No, but it seemed like the move at the time.
my headcanon is that access to an ipod full of emo music might have saved Revan. however they did not have that so she had to do All That instead
I agree
Remember how I said I am working on a short childhood one-shot about Revan and Alek? I lied again. It keeps getting longer.
Thinking about Queerplatonic Revalek again and about aroace Revan/allo Malak... About them being friends since they were children, and it was so easy then, to love each other when you're six years old and you can fill each other's world completely because you're small and they're small, and you just fit together. And then eventually puberty hits Alek like a truck but it sneaks up on Revan. It's not so difficult at first, it doesn't change that much, except Alek is growing like a fucking weed and he keeps tripping over his suddenly long legs, but it's not that different. Except when it suddenly is. Except when suddenly everyone else in their age group, and Alek, gets weird about each other, and talks about kissing and sex and about others being hot and Revan just does not understand. And they're still friends, they still belong together, they still have the bond, of course they do, but Alek keeps looking at girls, and he says these things and Revan can't help but be jealous, except they don't really understand of what even, because they don't want what Alek is talking about, they don't understand any of that talk about romance or sexual attraction that is floating about and the Masters keep trying to warn them about, and they know Alek won't just drop them, they're in each others heads, of course they know but... But. The longer it goes on the more there is that anxious buzz, that low fear that he will. That he will leave. That someone else will be more important. Because that is what everyone else is saying, that love is the strongest temptation, that it will draw you away from everything important, make you forget about everything else. And they never seem to mean what Revan is feeling, even though they do love him, more than anything else, more than they could imagine loving anyone or anything else, but it doesn't fit with what they're talking about. What Alek is talking about. And so they stew in it for years, shove that stupid illogical fear into the furthest corner of their mind where it stays, a constant low buzz of anxiety that they won't be enough one day, to come back to, while Alek goes out to explore, to learn about himself, to fuck around honestly, and they don't begrudge him that, they like it when he's happy, and he does come back. But what if one day he won't. What if he will be happier with someone else, with that other love people keep talking about.
And eventually, many years into the future, when they're both already drowning in darkness and rage and Malak argues with them, calls them weak, it finally flows over, and when they strike at him, rip off his jaw, it's not just revenge, it's not just a rebuttal to being called weak, it's making sure he will never kiss anyone again, that no one else will ever want him again. He won't leave. Not for that.
But hey I'm sure this says absolutely nothing about me :)
ohohohooo hello!
man this is so good, they love each other so much, they love each other the same way, they're both each others worlds in every way that matters and that will not change. But then Alek starts feeling romance, and Revan worries, gets jealous, fears, because every adult around them tells them thats the only kind of love that matters. So Revan is left eternally fearing that their friend will leave them because they cant love him in that specific way, because no one in their life who was supposed to reasure them told them any different.
and in doing so, in forgetting that platonic love is also an attatchment that can ensnare some one so deep it leads them to cruelty for the sake of their friends, Revan probably gets left to fight through those feelings on their own simply because they don't feel the kind of love that the jedi focus on teaching about. so they're left behind, forgotten by their teachers in that aspect, never learning to let go and trust that Alek loves them back the same way they do. Is it really any wonder why the darkside took root in them when they were never tought that loving platonically had all the same joys and dangers as loving romantically?
quick sketch of flashpoint from @adozentothedawn's zayne time travel au! featuring zayne realizing that the random rallymaster they abducted is Future Mandalore The Preserver
the lads!!!
Rohlan is having such an interesting time and is making new and fun friends. also commiting crimes against the mandalorians but i think that just occurs with proximity to Zayne.
Carnderous is also having such an interesting time for an entirely separate reason. Namely being capture by Rohlan the Questioner and two teenage jedi before being stripped down to his underclothes. Gotta say he looks like he's handling it pretty well.
Alek is maintaining direct eye contact with the man who's clothes and armour he is wearing. i'm sure he'd be having a great time if the lives of his friends were not on the line. On the brightside though he gets to cause problems with Zayne soon so like, overall he's gonna be having a great time. at some point.
Zayne is in time travel hell as per usual and is watching as his actions unintentionally drastically change the course of the future. Also as per usual.
I'm back from research proposal hell!!!
on an unrelated note i now have a list of researchers i want to personally fist fight. For no reason what so ever.
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Not my usual stuff but I thought this was too funny not to put somewhere.
Made a silly lil sketch inspired by the Time Travel au @adozentothedawn @redbean-nom and me were talking about
HANG ON so. I was taking a break from writing my thesis by looking for tiny funny background Malaks in the comics as one does and suddenly something occured to me.
Malak has magic tattoos. I mean the real reason is because they fucked up and just forgot but it's funnier to just take this at face value for now.
So in Issue 31 we first see Malak with his signature tattoos (and he uses the name Malak for the first time but that matters less.) (Also he looks kinda fucked up but don't worry about it)
In this scene we have Malak, Shel (the pirate looking lady but she doesn't really matter for my point), Vander and Vrook discussing the Zayne situation. Vrook in particular is being his cheerful self and is mad about Malak and "his cursaders"
Alright, speed forward through to issue 38 when we see Malak next. The Covenant situation is dealt with, we're done with the main plot, now we only have companion quests to deal with. By which I mean Jarael. Don't worry about it. Point is, our heroes have also not seen Malak in a while, and he shows up in a funky new ship, all elated because Revan's crusadors have been legitimzed, and he (or rather Ferroh, the other Jedi but whatever) tells the stoy of how, namely through proof of the massacre of Cathar, and we the readers politely get to see it drawn. This is one panel of it, showing Malak and his funky tattooed head next to what i can only assume is long neck Revan but whatever.
And then in the next panel he's in, after Revan picks up the Mandalorian masks and triggers a group vision...
blank head!! Nude!! Nothing there!! And it stays like that for the rest of the story flashback. Him and his shiny head.
:)
So yeah this is because the artists forgot to draw the tattooes, but I think we should come up with in-universe reason for this because i do think it's hilarious.
He’s new to having tattoos so when he remembers The Event the picture of himself in his mind has tattoos sporadically.
I’m choosing to believe he was like this with his hair too.
Actually, so I am still working on the Malak protagonist fic (and slowly but surely getting somewhere I promise), so naturally I need to make up more AU ideas.
Time travel situation! Why? Don't worry about it. Through shenanigans Zayne gets yeeted back to day 1/issue 0. He's rattled, confused, terrified, but by the force he has an opportunity now and he will keep his friends alive. Somehow. But he has no plan, no backup, no idea if anyone else also got kicked back, he sure cannot just straight up fight the masters, and he has like. 3 hours to prepare. Shit's fucked. And then he gets tackled out of the air by Alek because he did of course fall again. First he has a bit of a stroke, much to Alek's concern, because Zayne sure does remember what happened to him. What he became. Will become? But this is clearly not Darth Malak, this is Jedi Knight, Revanchist, Alek, Squint. Who thinks the Padawan in front of him is having a panic attack and is trying his best to calm him down. Zayne does not calm down but he does formulate a plan. And surges up from where he's cowered on the ground, Alek kneeling in front of him, and grabs Squint by the collar and just blurts out. "The Masters are going to kill my friends at the ceremony, because of some weird vision, they're going to kill all of them and no one's going to believe me, please come along, they won't dare if someone is watching!" And Alek just sits there where he was bowled over and stares, trying to figure out if this is a symptom of the clearly dysfunctional master padawan relationship, or vision business. He's leaning towards option 1 but then... Zayne does stare at him with such wide-eyed honest panic... And well. He has seen weirder, and if he's right, then maybe he can save some lives here. And if he's not then at worst he'll just be wasting a day and can maybe at least put in a good word to get Zayne a better master. And Revan is always in favour of annoying Lucien Draay. So he pulls out his com, not looking away from Zayne in case he does have another melt down, and dials Revan.
"Squint?" "Something's come up, I'll stay another day and catch up with you tomorrow." "Has it now... You need backup?" "No, I'll handle it. But... Keep an eye on me?" "I always do. Bring snacks when you show up." "Naturally. Maybe I'll even also get some this time." "Maybe. Have fun." Click.
Zayne meanwhile watches this go down, still scared, still concerned, a touch confused, but he knows to take his wins when he can get them. And so Alek comes along as Zayne hurries off to the ceremony (dont worry about the exact hour by hour timeline) and they are on time! They walk in, Zayne drawn as a fucking bow string, Alek politely relaxed, because he is technically intruding here. The Masters meanwhile see him and are very much not happy so they try to politely point him out again, which he refuses. He was invited after all, he's just here to be emotional support for Zayne after his master asked him to grab some more supplies on Taris, he won't make trouble. The Masters glare at him, gouging if it would be worth to kill him as well. Alek, knowing full well now that something sure is up, stares back at them, a firm and very obvious grasp on his bond to Revan. If they attack, even if they manage to kill him, Revan will know. And if Revan knows, so will the entire rest of the order and then there will be hell to pay. And very, very begrudgingly, the Masters back off. And the knighting ceremony is in fact just a knighting ceremony. If a very tense and loaded one. Zayne does not pass, to the suprise of no one, what does surprise is just how much he seems to not care. The other, now ex, padawans do not know what the fuck just happened, but they sure know something almost did, and they know whatever it was the knight who came in with Zayne was the reason it didn't. The Masters request the new knigth accompany them back to Coruscant (to speak to Krynda as she originally ordered them to) to finalize all the last paper work, and surely they would want to learn what will happen to Zayne now? Alek does have to leave the next day to catch up with the rest of the Revanchists, but before he leaves he grabs all of them and impresses on them to never be alone with their former masters, always have some neutral party present. They agree. And he gives Zayne his comm contact with a promise to pick up if he needs it, and an open offer to join the Revanchists, regardless of what the council will decide about him. His master has some experience with visions as well as strange force occurances, they will surely help him if he asks. Zayne vaguely agrees, on the one hand grateful and somewhat nostalgic, but on the other hand now that the imminent danger is over much more hesitant towards his former friend again.
Everyone leaves in their respective directions, and more hijinx ensue. Cause of course we still have to pick up the rest of the squad.
ohhhh man i can't put into words just how much i love this idea. So you get my derranged ramblings instead.
I love the idea that he's just been dropped right back into the chaos occuring right before he's knighted, he has so little time to process things and realise whats happening and then hes falling and hold up Darth Malak just saved him.
and then the constant shenanigans just dont stop from there on. Like- is he just gonna be on the verge of a constant anxiety attack? is he always going to be hanging out with Revan and Alek and then one of them says something just so similar to their furture selves that he has to leave and tell himself that they aren't what they were yet??
many things to consider.
Revan and Alek just seem so casual about all of this and i love it. like this is their new failed padawan friend! they're teaching him now whenever he shows up at their doorstep ("Zayne we are in space how did you do that-") like a wet feral cat demanding wet food (help with whatever plan to prevent the coming tragedies he's cooked up this time). Meanwhile Zayne has gained the favour of two incredibly strong and influential jedi and now has the unique oportunity of saving the galaxy if he plays his cards just right.
And the rest of the squad! I wonder how Zayne recruits them this time. Gryph probably gets nabbed by Zayne wearing a disguise and offering a profitable new buisness oportunity before shedding the mask and insisting that hes now Gryph's partner in crime and they need more freaks for the circus. Unsure about the rest though, given the situations of their original meetings its gotta be real hard to sort out how they join up with Zayne.
but uh, yeah thats just my insane thoughts about this. I love Zayne a lot as you can probably tell.
oh everything about this is amazing!!
i love everything about the mental image of lucien standing there glaring at alek, trying to figure out if killing the rogue moon padawans is worth fighting Alek "Zhar Lestin's Favorite Future Battlemaster Nominee" Squinquargesimus. also love alek just rolling with it. even early in the war he's so used to revan's Vision Shenanigans that you know what? sure. why not.
(plus the added irony of malak being the *actual* subject of the rogue moon prophecy)
with the whole zayne getting revan/malak's comm number, i wonder exactly how far in the future he was before the time travel? like, is this solidly post-kotor Zayne, who has seen Malak defeated and Revan sort of redeemed? or is this mid-civil-war Zayne, who last left off at the height of Revan and Malak's empire?
like this is their new failed padawan friend! they're teaching him now whenever he shows up at their doorstep ("Zayne we are in space how did you do that-") like a wet feral cat demanding wet food (help with whatever plan to prevent the coming tragedies he's cooked up this time)
the adventures of Revan, Malak, and their weird dog Zayne
Okay so, i was reminded that I meant to respond to this and @spine-juice last addition on the other tree of this post, so lets goooo.
So. Here my suggestion for the Flashpoint situation, based on your comments and my desire to torture Revan, and also specifically this tag that got my brains whirring
Revan was in fact nabbed as well, and attempted to stage a coup like two days in. They got impressively far but unfortunately got thwarted by the weird as fuck atmospheric situation on Flashpoint which meant most of them go recaptured with one exception who made it onto the ship in time and managed to get out: Alek. No he does not like this but Revan was yelling at him in their bond to fuck off already because he can't help them here anyway, so he does. Meanwhile Zayne is chomping at the bit to do something about it and jumping off this
he does in fact just call Rohlan. Not like he has a better idea. Rohlan does in fact show, but, shock and horror and relief, so does Alek. There are some arguments, some yelling, slightly less flirting with Jarael because Alek does also currently have bees in his veins about going back to save his friends. (He probably still flirts with her later because she is cool and competent and hot and he is a bit of a whore, but it never gets any further because this Jarael will just tell him no straight up instead of dancing around it.) Zayne just suggests his original plan and Alek goes "absolutely fucking not, I will do it, they know me anyway, and I am not leaving my friend's rescue up to you." And Zayne is equally not willing to just let him walk into that alone because he frankly does not trust him that far and also he knows what Flashpoint did to Alek originally, he is not willing to risk that. So after some arguing Jarael goes "okay, look. Fine. We can't have two captured Jedi, that is too much. So we'll just have to nab another Mandalorian and one of you goes in armor." Rohlan is not happy, and neither is anyone else, but it is the best plan they have so sure lets do it. And indeed they manage to pull off their heist, grabbing off a lone, and very alive thanks to Zayne, mando who is cursing at them up and down and who is revealed to be, indeed, one Canderous Ordo. Which is where my comment to what timeline spot is this Zayne comes in because it is 4000 times more hilarious to me if this is vaguely kotor 2 era Zayne who not only knows what happened to Malak and Revan, but is also aware that he just accidentaly kidnapped the future Mandalore the Preserver. Oops. But then, well, he has learnt to roll with the punches, and what a rolll this really, the two Mandalorians he knows are at least some capable of reason are right there. In the same room. And yeah sure Canderous at this poin is in (one of) his heyday war phase but surely if anyone can speedrun his disdain for Mandalore the Ultimate it would be Rohlan. Right? So they nab his armour and while on the way to Flashpoint Zayne does his level best to try and setup Rohlan and Canderous as allies in the most awkward attempt at unwanted wingmaning the galaxy has ever seen. The two are now mainly united in being confused why the weird not-jedi wants them to fuck apparently. It's a work in progress.
They arrive at Flashpoint, Zayne gets designated as Jedi capture which means Alek gets to dress up in Canderous' armor which i just think its funny. They find the rest of the crusadors, with one exception: Revan is not among the others. They pull their heist anyway, cause not like can just go look right now, and it goes off without a hitch, as far as they know, because we do get the mandalorian switcheroo while Alek is busy checking over his friends. Ferroh then informs him that Revan is being kept in a separate building to avoid another incident. They know they're still alive because of the bond, but nothing else. Naturally Alek immediately goes to grab Revan and finds them alive if somewhat battered (though not as badly as he was in the prime timeline because of shortened timeline) and absolutely drugged out of their mind. They are barely conscious and high as fuck. Alek drags them back and tries to make sense what of their mumbled ramblings is important information, what may be actual vision related, and what is just drug fueled rambling. It doesn't work well. They reunite and the more medically minded crusadors patch each other up as good possible, including making sure Revan doesn't concussion from just falling over. And then out comes not-Rohlan with not-Demagol and suddenly Revan fucking jumps up and yeets themselves at him with shocking speed and strength for someone who could barely sit a moment ago, which is surprising no one actually manages to stop them until they've already successfully knocked not-Rohlan over and ripped his helmet off, revealing the switcheroo. Revan does not stay conscious long enough to explain anything and instead just faints while everyone tries to figure out what the fuck happened. Zayne was planning on cornering Demagol alone before leaving to maybe possibly try to semi redeem him because he is Zayne "you're people" Carrick, so he is not stoked about this but well, when is he ever. It is decided to just pack everyone up and get them back to Republic space which Zayne agrees to to try and still make this work somehow (and also because he is concerned about how this whole thing may have fucked up Revan even worse somewhow), though he makes some plans to get out Rohlan and Canderous as quickly as possible so they can hopefully get on with reforming the Mandalorians sooner rather than later.
More shenanigans to follow.
Fully fleshed out Flashpoint arc my beloved...
absolutely bloody love this direction, and having the roles reversed with Alek now being on the outside while Revan is the one who has the longer stay at Flashpoint is probably the best way to have this all go down. Alek and Rohlan are probably going to have an interesting time together since Rohlan was one of the ones to capture the revanchists, but i feel like they could probably learn to get along. Zayne looks at them like he's having a flashback when they fight.
Canderous/Rohlan was not a crack ship i ever expected but lemme tell you i am here for their deep confusion over the strange teenage not jedi pushing them together for scam reasons. Love that for them. Even if they are missunderstanding. Genuinely need to learn how to draw bigger scenes and comic pannels so i can draw a funny scene that popped into my head about this.
Alek in Canderous's armour pretending to have captured zayne is a wonderpus image that i will in fact be attempting to draw. Also the catharsis that Alek is foing to get from bashing Demagol over the head is going to be legendary. Revan being high as a kite is also about as funny as it is horrifying, like god damn they’re getting out through the wringer in this arc but also them using their last shred of energy and consciousness to tackle Not-Rohlan and foil his plans is bloody perfect. Like good lil buddy! You have just probably saved Zayne from potentially getting himself killed over confronting Demagol, because as much as Zayne’s endless kindness and compassion for people has kept him alive, Demagol does not share the same values. I don’t doubt that he’d try to talk to him while he’s in custody though, which could go either pretty good or disastrously bad. anyway— the seeds of change are sown!! The mandalorian rebellion has gained a new and powerful (and very confused) ally. I think in the rush to try and get them back to mando space is when Slyssk joins the crew. Because there’s no better time to meet a ship thief than when you’re trying to quietly and illegally ship two mandalorian commanders back to enemy space. Zayne is excited to see his friend again! Slyssk doesn’t know who this human is but he’s just happy to apparently have a friend! My boy is too lonely.
unsure if/how reunion arc happens, Since zayne isn’t a criminal in this timeline, but if we’re still putting it in then it might be more a thing of convincing Gryph to put some credits towards funding The Crew and The Revanchists’ public transport fund. Dont currently know how the moomo brothers get involved this time? Unless the coventant is still salty about zayne (or potentially coming after Alek this time if they’ve gone to Krynda first??) and sends them out on a mission regarding him. And then things occur.
Days of Fear and Nights of Anger is definitely something I need to go and read again before I start talking about it because those two arcs definitely cant happen the same anymore with how things go, but I’m hella excited to construct new and fucked up arcs for them.
This is a very serious war meeting, you know
BOX REVAN!!!!!
Ohhh my god they’re so whimsical, look at them doing their super serious speech stood on their box of extra small knights robes.
I can’t blame Malak for laughing his ass off honestly. I would be too.
somewhat inspired by @adozentothedawn and @spine-juice's time travel au discussion,
I've had a timeloop au lurking in my notes app for a while, in which Revan, Meetra, Zayne, and Vitiate are all stuck in overlapping time loops.
Revan is looping on a ~25-year cycle - they wake up age 19 on the day of the Cathar massacre, and the loop lasts until they find Vitiate in Wild Space post-kotor (and either kill him & he jumps bodies, they get killed, or they get captured). They have their full memory for the first day of the loop, then it fades after that until the kotor reveal post-mindwipe.
Meetra is looping on a ~1 day cycle - she's stuck on the Battle of Malachor with full memory.
Zayne is looping on a ~1 year cycle - he wakes up the day of the Padawan massacre, and the loop lasts until he resolves all his companion quests. He has full memory for just the last day of the loop.
Vitiate is looping on a ~300 year cycle, starting with the beginning of the war and ending when he dies, with full memory during Revan's imprisonment.
i'm thinking all their loops last until they kill Vitiate without letting him jump bodies?
Uuuuh fuck yeah 👀👀👀👀👀
Also:
what a line dfgsdgfds
Yo this is so dang cool!
andd yeah that line is hella acurate.
also i love that everyone is experiencing the loops differently and trying to figure out how to change things with the limited time and information they have. As well as experiencing their loops differently.
Revan seems to be desperately throwing ideas at the wall and seeing what sticks as they spiral further into absurdity and insanity with each passing loop. Nothing works, they're on a time limit each loop, no matter what they do they still come back. At what point do they lose track of their first life? they're the only one linking all the others together and the whole galaxy is on their shoulders once again.
Meetra's probably having the absolute worst time in like the first couple loops if Malachor keeps happening, absolute horror situation. and then things change wildly, and Revan is rapidly filling her in on their plans and what they're changing and things seem optimistic. Then she has to watch them gradually lose their mind over the loops as they become more desperate to break them.
Zayne's gotta be having an interesting time, just gets ocassionally grabbed by the Revanchist, given the rundown of the situation, and recruited to do stuff. Then once he's dealt with his own quests gets his full memories back for one day and has to deal with that whole thing. really depends on how much he remembers before that day.
and then there's Vitiate! I honeslty don't know nearly enough about Vitiate at the moment but i assume he's managing various plans to deal with the other three and the changes being made to the galaxy with what limited info he has prior to Revan's imprisonment, and scheming after that.
Could be kind of a Bodies situation where they all figure out a proper plan and oraganise through the loops to ensure things all fall into place to finally end things and save the galaxy.
yeah, they're all feeling the effects of revan's experimentation! it started out pretty normal, like "win the war faster with minimal casualties" or "deal with the covenant & haazen before the vanjervalis situation disables the entire fleet" or "avoid getting captured by the jedi and follow through with the sith empire plan" (that last one doesnt work for numerous reasons, including that never getting mindwiped means they don't get their memories back until the next loop). then they start with more major alterations, like "ditch the sith empire plan entirely'". and when those don't work, they end up just throwing everything at the wall, along the lines of "literally deposit the entire jedi order on vitiate's doorstep day one", "convince the republic to buy the weaponized exogorths and sic them on vitiate", and "leave the order and run for chancellor".
and of course, it takes till the truly questionable ideas for everyone else to realize that hey, all their timeloops overlap with Revan. all of a sudden Meetra's on Malachor fighting Darth-Luzion-possessed-by-Vitiate while an army of Star Forge droids hunt down Nihilus on the surface. or Zayne finishes up with finding Jarael's family, gets his memories back, and realizes that the entirety of Flashpoint and Demagol arcs got skipped entirely, the Arkanian Legacy disaster was averted by sending Aurora Adasca instead of Malak (sorry malak, you really are not the best person for that job when one of the other revanchists is the actual adasca heiress), Taris got nuked, Zayne got into four arcs' worth of brand new trouble, and Revan's already on Malachor less than a year into the war. Vitiate figures it out after Revan shows up four years early with a Rakatan cult and about a hundred extra Dark Jedi in tow.
and yes! once Revan figures out how to speedrun the war in under a year things finally start looking up for Meetra and Zayne... just in time for them to get a front row seat to Revan's mental breakdown. Especially with the staggered loop times- 20 days for Meetra is *500 years* for Revan, and eventually they resort to finding her at Malachor to ask how it went the first time around, because they've been through so many centuries of iterations they forgot the original timeline of the war.
Vitiate is mostly off in Wild Space trying to figure out what the heck is going on with Revan/the main galaxy. when he realized he was looping he was like, oh great, going to use my knowledge of the Republic to take over before Revan gains any significant power. and then he shows up to Darth Revan and their apprentice Darth Ferroh unleashing a dedicated following of Rakatan cultists upon the sith purebloods while HK leads a droid army hunting Jedi in the Outer Rim, and he wonders what went wrong
it's especially difficult since the three Jedi are all tied to different events, so the only way they all overlap is if Malachor happens before Zayne finishes his companion quests (and the only way where they all have their memories at the same time is if Malachor somehow happens post-kotor and Zayne finishes his companion quests earlier the same day)
also, Revan's breakdown is certainly not helped by the fact that they experience the mindwipe and revan reveal nearly every loop, on top of the general losing memories due to the timeloop, so their memories are all over the place.
yess!!!
by the tenth loop Revan has a detailed mental flowchart (that they of course write down while they still have full memories on the first day) of the fastest ways to get to various Mandalorian commanders. so far they've managed to befriend Rohlan within the first few weeks of the war, capture/kill Canderous mid-drop on Althir, kill Cassus by nuking Taris, kill Mandalore by destroying the Arkanian Legacy while he's there, and intercept Demagol immediately after Flashpoint (and kill Pulsipher in the process). they are So Done with all of this
once Revan goes fully off the rails Meetra gets into the habit of waking up and immediately checkign the news to see what new form their mental breakdown has taken this time around
my general headcanon (not just for this au) is that if Malak isn't around, Ferroh becomes the Sith Master- I have an excel spreadsheet tracking all the individual revanchists' appearances and Ferroh has the third most (after Malak and Revan themselves). he's also the only other one with dialogue, a name, and a personality, and seems to be Malak's friend. (I also kind of see him as an Exile stand-in, since the kotor comic was pre-exile-canonization)
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Zayne doesn't get his memories back until the very end of his loop meaning he has to sit down and recontextualize the entire last year of his life because What Even Was That
(on the other hand, these sort of catastrophically weird events seem to happen to zayne at least once a week, so at least he's somewhat primed to deal with it? like, the timeloop can't be *that* much worse than the Demagol reveal, right? or Haazen and Lucien's eleventh-hour redemption?)
sometimes Revan chooses to play the loop out normally until a certain point, and sometimes they go full throttle from day one, meaning every so often Ferroh gets to watch Revan walk up to ten-year-old Initiate Alek and decapitate him in the training hall, or take Padawan Alek out for a mission and return alone and bloody, or stab Knight Alek at their side mid-battle with no warning, or finally slay Mandalore and then turn around and fire on Malak's ship.
on one occasion Revan wakes up and goes on a rampage through the Dantooine Enclave, anakin-style, killing everyone who Fell in the original timeline. a lot of them were still kids at that point, but they're still future sith, right? ...right? the only thing that stops Revan from killing them all again in the next timeline is the realization that it's far too close to what the covenant did with the Rogue Moon prophecy. they call up Lucien immediately to scope out if he's actually been in a timeloop this entire time (he's not), because what if he was? what if those padawans really *were* future sith? Revan never found out what happened to Zayne in the original timeline. what if he was a sith? what if he was *Nihilus*?
sometimes Malak survives, and then he and Ferroh get to watch Revan invade twelve planets and nuke two others in the span of three days, or ditch the entire war and make a beeline for mystery coordinates in the middle of Wild Space, or drop off the map entirely and turn up eight years later with an army of crazed cultists.
sometimes Revan tells them about the loop- and Malak and Ferroh who've spent the past year following Revan's visions halfway across the galaxy believe them, because why not?- and sometimes they don't. and when they don't know about the loop, they don't even have the luxury of knowing the original Revan like Meetra and later Zayne do- they just think Revan's completely insane. so in some loops they leave the crusade. Ferroh leaves to go be a hermit hiding from Revan's day one sith empire. Malak joins up with Zayne's crew just to escape Revan's sudden madness, because he can only handle so many one-sided conversations in which Revan seems to be talking to an entirely different version of him.
Meetra wakes up and immediately checks Revan's holopedia page because *what did they do this time*. it's the worst day of her life but it's different every time as the result of whatever Revan did, which means it's the worst in a uniquely horrible way *every single time*.
Zayne wakes up on the last day of his loop and realizes exactly what happened, and given how much the padawan massacre affected him, his survivor's guilt for what he could have done if only he knew about the loop hits even worse. and the next day, even if he survives, his memories fade again, and he's just left with the knowledge that he should have stopped *something* but he doesn't know what that something is, just that it's the reason why the galaxy's so messed up. and he's left like that for the rest of his life.
yesss they're all having a uniquely Different horrible timeloop experience. Revan's loops are usually around 25 years, and they're stuck watching themself fail for centuries upon centuries. Meetra's getting slammed with back-to-back Malachors for weeks on end. Zayne gets the galaxy's worst case of survivor's guilt dropped on his head the moment things are finally looking up for the crew.
Meetra wakes up one day and the holopedia entry is empty. nobody's even heard of a Revan. she searches back years and finds an article, dated eight years before the war, of the tragic suicide of a young Jedi on Dantooine. she wakes up the next day to a call from Chancellor Revan demanding that the exogorth fleet be sent to destroy a mystery planet called Nathema. she wakes up the next day and watches Revan kill Mandalore and then themself. she wakes up the next day and Revan's breaking down the door demanding to ramp up the superweapon production immediately. she wakes up the next day and Mandalore Rohlan is calling to say he's captured Captain Malak and the rebel fleet, and can she let Revan know once they get back with the droid army? she wakes up the next day and the Sith Covenant is firing on her fleet, and also Admiral Davik Kang would like to know if he's supposed to nuke Coruscant before or after Mandalore is dead. she wakes up again and again getting dropped in the middle of a rapid-fire AU parade. and she doesn't even have enough time before her memories fade to figure out how Revan even managed to do it this time.
not only is Revan getting mindwiped, they're pretty much forcing themself to get mindwiped every single time! they're preparing for it, and stashing instructions to soften the worst of the disorientation, but they're also spending fifteen years with the mindwipe hanging over their head. after the first day, they don't even remember *why* they need to get mindwiped, just that they *do*! and after the revan reveal, they're immediately hit with the realization that technically the Council performed the mindwipe, but *they're* the one who forced events to happen just right for the mindwipe to happen. that not only are they Darth Revan, and Revan of the thirty-some other timeloops, and that the Council mindwiped them, but that ultimately *they did this to themself*.
why not both? lets say Revan tried the politician thing a few times- the first time, Supreme Commander Malak stayed with the order and died on Malachor. another time, they left before they even met him, and Dorjander Kace became the Jedi face of the war; Battlemaster Alek was appointed to the Dantooine Council to train a mindwiped Revan after Zhar Lestin died in the war. and another time, they left at the last minute and Malak stuck with them, and the political side of the war was engineered by Chancellor Revan, Vice Chair Alek, and "definitely just a regular protocol droid please do not inquire about assassination protocols" HK
somewhat inspired by @adozentothedawn and @spine-juice's time travel au discussion,
I've had a timeloop au lurking in my notes app for a while, in which Revan, Meetra, Zayne, and Vitiate are all stuck in overlapping time loops.
Revan is looping on a ~25-year cycle - they wake up age 19 on the day of the Cathar massacre, and the loop lasts until they find Vitiate in Wild Space post-kotor (and either kill him & he jumps bodies, they get killed, or they get captured). They have their full memory for the first day of the loop, then it fades after that until the kotor reveal post-mindwipe.
Meetra is looping on a ~1 day cycle - she's stuck on the Battle of Malachor with full memory.
Zayne is looping on a ~1 year cycle - he wakes up the day of the Padawan massacre, and the loop lasts until he resolves all his companion quests. He has full memory for just the last day of the loop.
Vitiate is looping on a ~300 year cycle, starting with the beginning of the war and ending when he dies, with full memory during Revan's imprisonment.
i'm thinking all their loops last until they kill Vitiate without letting him jump bodies?
Uuuuh fuck yeah 👀👀👀👀👀
Also:
what a line dfgsdgfds
Yo this is so dang cool!
andd yeah that line is hella acurate.
also i love that everyone is experiencing the loops differently and trying to figure out how to change things with the limited time and information they have. As well as experiencing their loops differently.
Revan seems to be desperately throwing ideas at the wall and seeing what sticks as they spiral further into absurdity and insanity with each passing loop. Nothing works, they're on a time limit each loop, no matter what they do they still come back. At what point do they lose track of their first life? they're the only one linking all the others together and the whole galaxy is on their shoulders once again.
Meetra's probably having the absolute worst time in like the first couple loops if Malachor keeps happening, absolute horror situation. and then things change wildly, and Revan is rapidly filling her in on their plans and what they're changing and things seem optimistic. Then she has to watch them gradually lose their mind over the loops as they become more desperate to break them.
Zayne's gotta be having an interesting time, just gets ocassionally grabbed by the Revanchist, given the rundown of the situation, and recruited to do stuff. Then once he's dealt with his own quests gets his full memories back for one day and has to deal with that whole thing. really depends on how much he remembers before that day.
and then there's Vitiate! I honeslty don't know nearly enough about Vitiate at the moment but i assume he's managing various plans to deal with the other three and the changes being made to the galaxy with what limited info he has prior to Revan's imprisonment, and scheming after that.
Could be kind of a Bodies situation where they all figure out a proper plan and oraganise through the loops to ensure things all fall into place to finally end things and save the galaxy.
You know I really honestly think that if Rohlan Dyre had stayed on the crew/not been replaced by Demagol, the Kotor comics would have gone in a new and insane direction of Star Wars’ unluckiest crew somehow fucking over Valkorion.
Why do I think this? Because the whimsical combination of Rohlan’s quest for answers and Zayne’s force ordained bad luck would absolutely end with them in that position. That and I fear that Gryph would heavily encourage it for the potential schemes and scams.
Exactlllyyyyy
you see the vision.
genuinely if Rohlan ever met Revan they would be unstoppable
now that’s a real good direction for how this would go.
May actually take this out of the Kotor au ideas document and start writing this once I’m done with my dissertation proposal.
Actually, so I am still working on the Malak protagonist fic (and slowly but surely getting somewhere I promise), so naturally I need to make up more AU ideas.
Time travel situation! Why? Don't worry about it. Through shenanigans Zayne gets yeeted back to day 1/issue 0. He's rattled, confused, terrified, but by the force he has an opportunity now and he will keep his friends alive. Somehow. But he has no plan, no backup, no idea if anyone else also got kicked back, he sure cannot just straight up fight the masters, and he has like. 3 hours to prepare. Shit's fucked. And then he gets tackled out of the air by Alek because he did of course fall again. First he has a bit of a stroke, much to Alek's concern, because Zayne sure does remember what happened to him. What he became. Will become? But this is clearly not Darth Malak, this is Jedi Knight, Revanchist, Alek, Squint. Who thinks the Padawan in front of him is having a panic attack and is trying his best to calm him down. Zayne does not calm down but he does formulate a plan. And surges up from where he's cowered on the ground, Alek kneeling in front of him, and grabs Squint by the collar and just blurts out. "The Masters are going to kill my friends at the ceremony, because of some weird vision, they're going to kill all of them and no one's going to believe me, please come along, they won't dare if someone is watching!" And Alek just sits there where he was bowled over and stares, trying to figure out if this is a symptom of the clearly dysfunctional master padawan relationship, or vision business. He's leaning towards option 1 but then... Zayne does stare at him with such wide-eyed honest panic... And well. He has seen weirder, and if he's right, then maybe he can save some lives here. And if he's not then at worst he'll just be wasting a day and can maybe at least put in a good word to get Zayne a better master. And Revan is always in favour of annoying Lucien Draay. So he pulls out his com, not looking away from Zayne in case he does have another melt down, and dials Revan.
"Squint?" "Something's come up, I'll stay another day and catch up with you tomorrow." "Has it now... You need backup?" "No, I'll handle it. But... Keep an eye on me?" "I always do. Bring snacks when you show up." "Naturally. Maybe I'll even also get some this time." "Maybe. Have fun." Click.
Zayne meanwhile watches this go down, still scared, still concerned, a touch confused, but he knows to take his wins when he can get them. And so Alek comes along as Zayne hurries off to the ceremony (dont worry about the exact hour by hour timeline) and they are on time! They walk in, Zayne drawn as a fucking bow string, Alek politely relaxed, because he is technically intruding here. The Masters meanwhile see him and are very much not happy so they try to politely point him out again, which he refuses. He was invited after all, he's just here to be emotional support for Zayne after his master asked him to grab some more supplies on Taris, he won't make trouble. The Masters glare at him, gouging if it would be worth to kill him as well. Alek, knowing full well now that something sure is up, stares back at them, a firm and very obvious grasp on his bond to Revan. If they attack, even if they manage to kill him, Revan will know. And if Revan knows, so will the entire rest of the order and then there will be hell to pay. And very, very begrudgingly, the Masters back off. And the knighting ceremony is in fact just a knighting ceremony. If a very tense and loaded one. Zayne does not pass, to the suprise of no one, what does surprise is just how much he seems to not care. The other, now ex, padawans do not know what the fuck just happened, but they sure know something almost did, and they know whatever it was the knight who came in with Zayne was the reason it didn't. The Masters request the new knigth accompany them back to Coruscant (to speak to Krynda as she originally ordered them to) to finalize all the last paper work, and surely they would want to learn what will happen to Zayne now? Alek does have to leave the next day to catch up with the rest of the Revanchists, but before he leaves he grabs all of them and impresses on them to never be alone with their former masters, always have some neutral party present. They agree. And he gives Zayne his comm contact with a promise to pick up if he needs it, and an open offer to join the Revanchists, regardless of what the council will decide about him. His master has some experience with visions as well as strange force occurances, they will surely help him if he asks. Zayne vaguely agrees, on the one hand grateful and somewhat nostalgic, but on the other hand now that the imminent danger is over much more hesitant towards his former friend again.
Everyone leaves in their respective directions, and more hijinx ensue. Cause of course we still have to pick up the rest of the squad.
ohhhh man i can't put into words just how much i love this idea. So you get my derranged ramblings instead.
I love the idea that he's just been dropped right back into the chaos occuring right before he's knighted, he has so little time to process things and realise whats happening and then hes falling and hold up Darth Malak just saved him.
and then the constant shenanigans just dont stop from there on. Like- is he just gonna be on the verge of a constant anxiety attack? is he always going to be hanging out with Revan and Alek and then one of them says something just so similar to their furture selves that he has to leave and tell himself that they aren't what they were yet??
many things to consider.
Revan and Alek just seem so casual about all of this and i love it. like this is their new failed padawan friend! they're teaching him now whenever he shows up at their doorstep ("Zayne we are in space how did you do that-") like a wet feral cat demanding wet food (help with whatever plan to prevent the coming tragedies he's cooked up this time). Meanwhile Zayne has gained the favour of two incredibly strong and influential jedi and now has the unique oportunity of saving the galaxy if he plays his cards just right.
And the rest of the squad! I wonder how Zayne recruits them this time. Gryph probably gets nabbed by Zayne wearing a disguise and offering a profitable new buisness oportunity before shedding the mask and insisting that hes now Gryph's partner in crime and they need more freaks for the circus. Unsure about the rest though, given the situations of their original meetings its gotta be real hard to sort out how they join up with Zayne.
but uh, yeah thats just my insane thoughts about this. I love Zayne a lot as you can probably tell.
Ehehehe <3
Tbh I would probably be cheating my way around the squad situation by assuming they came right along into their respective spots, Jarael and Gryph at least. Probably also Slyssk but he's not on planet so we'll deal with that later. He can have some fun grifting people with his future knowledge for now. Since they are not together when they arrive back in time (let's just assume weird sith artifact there are so many fucking around anyway) they are also not sure who's actually here, but since the Padawan murders do not happen they figure out pretty quick that at least Zayne is along for the ride and they go to pick him up, meeting on the way. Camper is likely not included cause he was on worm adventures or something so he's old and confused and grumpy when Jarael yells at him to clean out the fucking air vents. Rohlan is probably also not included cause he was fucking off wherever the hell he went to, we can be weird about him later.
Which brings me to the next point. Namely Flashpoint. Which I do think does happen in this timeline because Zayne doesn't actually know how that happened in the first place and would be busy for at least like a week dealing with bureaucracy and making sure his friends stay alive. And mayhaps that is even when he bumps into Revan for the first time, being still on planet when they report to the council and he goes 'oh shit oh fuck I forgot I fucked up so hard oh no' and invites himself along Revan's quest to free the Crusaders. And then we get into the real shenanigans shit and Zayne gets to have a taste of both why Squint is the way he is and how Revan originally managed to absolutely take apart the Mandalorians. Also we completely disregard the mandalorian switcheroo because even if Demagol should get the opportunity to try and pull it off Revan would call that shit immediately. Maybe to everyone else's horror when they suddenly sock their new ally in the face before explaining anything.
I also fully agree that Zayne would not be staying with them full time but he will keep showing up at random times. He is also weirdly insistent every time he leaves on looking them both deep in the eyes and proclaiming his friendship for them. It's really weird but he does seem to have had a difficult apprenticeship so they just kinda let him.
Ooooo having them come with him would actually be such a fun situation and it has great potential for for little side stories/intros from their perspectives where they’re also rapidly figuring out what’s going on and trying to change things. Aaaand as you said, pretty quickly figure out its not just them when Zayne’s wanted poster never shows up anywhere.
but uh. Oh boy. Flashpoint is gonna be a whole ass issue. But at least even with Zayne busy for a week, he’ll get there sooner than the 4(? I think?) weeks it took in the original timeline, but then there’s the difference you mentioned of if Revan got taken or not and how that affects things. Like, I’m not gonna lie if Revan got taken then there’s absolutely a non zero chance that by the time Zayne gets there Revan is already staging a coup. Because they are a master strategist and -more importantly- chaos incarnate and therefore can not be contained for long. But then there’s the question of if they do stay out, how much help will they be able to get for the rescue? Because most, If not all, of the Revanchists are at flashpoint, leaving them with the options of the republic or the Jedi. The Jedi can already probably be struck out given the council’s distaste for their actions, but there’s a good chance they could get help from the republic military in invading Flashpoint. Which could go a couple of ways given Flashpoint is pretty firmly in mando space, so a full invasion could occur but wouldn’t be great, or a stealth mission could be organised which is relatively similar to what The Crew did.
or, the third and fastest option of Revan just hopping on the ship with their favourite ex-padawan and his crew of felons. Which also begs the question of would Rohlan be involved in this particular plot and how would he get there? If not, then there’s the classic option of stealing mando armour, using one of the crew as bait to get in, and then unleashing Revan to deal with the immediate threats while the others deal with the rest of the issues. If Rohlan is there though, potentially similar idea? I mean that definitely means the identity switch could occur, or Zayne and Gryph get weirdly insistent that Rohlan keeps his helmet on while he retrieves Demagol, meaning he has a chance at winning when Demagol tries to drug him.
as for how he gets there? Good fuckin question. Because of its earlier than it was in the comics then he wouldn’t be on vanquo where they’d expect him. But there’s a chance he’s still at/near flashpoint? Wait Oo no better idea- if one of the crew remembers his helmet’s comm code they could call him up out of the blue like “hi hello, we have an offer- no don’t worry about how we got this number- we have information about the real reason behind the war, you’ll get it in return for helping us screw over Demagol.” And he comes! Because he’s curious and he was slipping away from the mandos anyway. Why would he stay? Personally, I think he’d look at them, see buirless behaviour, and stick around because they clearly have good information and he’s pretty sure they’re not going to survive without someone keeping an eye on them.
Actually, so I am still working on the Malak protagonist fic (and slowly but surely getting somewhere I promise), so naturally I need to make up more AU ideas.
Time travel situation! Why? Don't worry about it. Through shenanigans Zayne gets yeeted back to day 1/issue 0. He's rattled, confused, terrified, but by the force he has an opportunity now and he will keep his friends alive. Somehow. But he has no plan, no backup, no idea if anyone else also got kicked back, he sure cannot just straight up fight the masters, and he has like. 3 hours to prepare. Shit's fucked. And then he gets tackled out of the air by Alek because he did of course fall again. First he has a bit of a stroke, much to Alek's concern, because Zayne sure does remember what happened to him. What he became. Will become? But this is clearly not Darth Malak, this is Jedi Knight, Revanchist, Alek, Squint. Who thinks the Padawan in front of him is having a panic attack and is trying his best to calm him down. Zayne does not calm down but he does formulate a plan. And surges up from where he's cowered on the ground, Alek kneeling in front of him, and grabs Squint by the collar and just blurts out. "The Masters are going to kill my friends at the ceremony, because of some weird vision, they're going to kill all of them and no one's going to believe me, please come along, they won't dare if someone is watching!" And Alek just sits there where he was bowled over and stares, trying to figure out if this is a symptom of the clearly dysfunctional master padawan relationship, or vision business. He's leaning towards option 1 but then... Zayne does stare at him with such wide-eyed honest panic... And well. He has seen weirder, and if he's right, then maybe he can save some lives here. And if he's not then at worst he'll just be wasting a day and can maybe at least put in a good word to get Zayne a better master. And Revan is always in favour of annoying Lucien Draay. So he pulls out his com, not looking away from Zayne in case he does have another melt down, and dials Revan.
"Squint?" "Something's come up, I'll stay another day and catch up with you tomorrow." "Has it now... You need backup?" "No, I'll handle it. But... Keep an eye on me?" "I always do. Bring snacks when you show up." "Naturally. Maybe I'll even also get some this time." "Maybe. Have fun." Click.
Zayne meanwhile watches this go down, still scared, still concerned, a touch confused, but he knows to take his wins when he can get them. And so Alek comes along as Zayne hurries off to the ceremony (dont worry about the exact hour by hour timeline) and they are on time! They walk in, Zayne drawn as a fucking bow string, Alek politely relaxed, because he is technically intruding here. The Masters meanwhile see him and are very much not happy so they try to politely point him out again, which he refuses. He was invited after all, he's just here to be emotional support for Zayne after his master asked him to grab some more supplies on Taris, he won't make trouble. The Masters glare at him, gouging if it would be worth to kill him as well. Alek, knowing full well now that something sure is up, stares back at them, a firm and very obvious grasp on his bond to Revan. If they attack, even if they manage to kill him, Revan will know. And if Revan knows, so will the entire rest of the order and then there will be hell to pay. And very, very begrudgingly, the Masters back off. And the knighting ceremony is in fact just a knighting ceremony. If a very tense and loaded one. Zayne does not pass, to the suprise of no one, what does surprise is just how much he seems to not care. The other, now ex, padawans do not know what the fuck just happened, but they sure know something almost did, and they know whatever it was the knight who came in with Zayne was the reason it didn't. The Masters request the new knigth accompany them back to Coruscant (to speak to Krynda as she originally ordered them to) to finalize all the last paper work, and surely they would want to learn what will happen to Zayne now? Alek does have to leave the next day to catch up with the rest of the Revanchists, but before he leaves he grabs all of them and impresses on them to never be alone with their former masters, always have some neutral party present. They agree. And he gives Zayne his comm contact with a promise to pick up if he needs it, and an open offer to join the Revanchists, regardless of what the council will decide about him. His master has some experience with visions as well as strange force occurances, they will surely help him if he asks. Zayne vaguely agrees, on the one hand grateful and somewhat nostalgic, but on the other hand now that the imminent danger is over much more hesitant towards his former friend again.
Everyone leaves in their respective directions, and more hijinx ensue. Cause of course we still have to pick up the rest of the squad.
ohhhh man i can't put into words just how much i love this idea. So you get my derranged ramblings instead.
I love the idea that he's just been dropped right back into the chaos occuring right before he's knighted, he has so little time to process things and realise whats happening and then hes falling and hold up Darth Malak just saved him.
and then the constant shenanigans just dont stop from there on. Like- is he just gonna be on the verge of a constant anxiety attack? is he always going to be hanging out with Revan and Alek and then one of them says something just so similar to their furture selves that he has to leave and tell himself that they aren't what they were yet??
many things to consider.
Revan and Alek just seem so casual about all of this and i love it. like this is their new failed padawan friend! they're teaching him now whenever he shows up at their doorstep ("Zayne we are in space how did you do that-") like a wet feral cat demanding wet food (help with whatever plan to prevent the coming tragedies he's cooked up this time). Meanwhile Zayne has gained the favour of two incredibly strong and influential jedi and now has the unique oportunity of saving the galaxy if he plays his cards just right.
And the rest of the squad! I wonder how Zayne recruits them this time. Gryph probably gets nabbed by Zayne wearing a disguise and offering a profitable new buisness oportunity before shedding the mask and insisting that hes now Gryph's partner in crime and they need more freaks for the circus. Unsure about the rest though, given the situations of their original meetings its gotta be real hard to sort out how they join up with Zayne.
but uh, yeah thats just my insane thoughts about this. I love Zayne a lot as you can probably tell.