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@echosinthedesert
Iām never around now that we donāt have time for Deaf events (most of us arenāt fluent enough to use it in daily life, we just voice and struggle). YouTube will have to teach them on the bus, we have no hours left outside of that.
I have a question, mostly for hearing folks. Can you tell identify what a noise is and where itās coming from as you hear it?
I/we can hearā¦
What and where it is as it happens
What it is, but not where, as it happens
Where it is, but not what, as it happens
What and where it is with some delay/thought
What it is, but not where, with some delay/thought
Where it is, but not what, with some delay/thought
Neither what nor where it is
I think some of it is dissociation, but I am hard of hearing and have ADHD, so maybe auditory processing problems.
When I notice noise, I tend to stumble onto it like with pain; I notice Iām irritated, then check for why. I can usually only tell itās noise at first, and only which direction if thereās no distortion (Iām wrong a lot). I could tell there was music after it kept going for a while and might be able to tell which side itās coming from, but Iād only know a loud sound was an ambulance if I saw it coming and wouldnāt know where it was with my eyes closed except maybe as it passed.
We have an ear thing thatās making us significantly more hard of hearing in one ear, a body thing across the system. Iām having the time of my life watching them flounder because they canāt hear people talking from that side.
Our hearing has been going verrryyyy slowly as we age (weāre all at least mildly HOH), but this is apparent. Woke up one day and it hurt and now itās like this. Probably itās an infection or something thatāll clear up, but itās kinda nice that they have to communicate like I do now. Welcome to my world, mfs.
The more I think about it, the more different our internal sign language differs from any other we know. We have way more pronouns, we measure time differently, the cultural connotations mean few signs line up unless theyāre loan words, and regional norms for what bodies look like is not a concern when everyone is human. I donāt like calling it a conlang, because it wasnāt really constructed. Itās a mix of what we picked up from hand signals where we grew up and the necessity of communication amongst ourselves over time. Thereās enough of us that we have several dialects and a mutually intelligible language āour reshuffling cycles might be enough to count as generational shift, always got new people coming in. I love our language, we literally have a school where we get to teach it now.
I was talking to another headmate and they said that if I didnāt know ASL I should stop pretending. Girl. Is this America? Iām using our sign language, itās almost like thereās a reason we call it something else. The vocabulary and non-manual signals are almost entirely different, but the sentence structure is enough alike that it can be hard to tell right away.
We need housing. We are Deaf, hard of hearing. Phone calls are really difficult without TTY/RTT, but it takes a second to transcribe the other lineās speech. Every time we call the homeless shelter in our area, they hang up on us. Every damn time. If we get past the greeting, we have maybe a minute of their attention. We might get to speak if we announce weāre using transcriptions as soon as they pick up, or they might hang up. My hearing is not the problem here.
CW for RAMCOA, hallucinations, flashbacks
I get auditory hallucinations. I canāt hear. People cofronting with me can make the connection to our residual hearing better than I can, but thatās not what it is. It sounds like itās coming from outside. People yelling, screaming, calling our names. Sometimes my own name, but thatās always whispered. Itās mostly PTSD, snippets I or a system member heard before.
Iāve been hearing the angels and demons (also headmates). Thatās most of how I communicate with people from those layers. I think it comes from my training, to view programmers as gods and headmates as spirits. I like them better than the flashbacks.
I donāt know what to make of it. I know itās not external because I physically couldnāt pick it up. I donāt remember if it was always like this, but it feels normal.
Diversity of experience I suppose. Hearing voices as a Deaf girl is strange in concept, but I only want to change the trauma bits. The rest⦠well, maybe I can teach the others to sign.
Lately weāve spoken to two other hard of hearing people. One was Deaf, actively learning ASL and able to communicate both by voicing and signing. The other was not.
It was a huge difference in how we were able to talk. When the other person doesnāt sign, weāre at a standstill. They struggle to voice and we struggle to pick it up ā or vice versa, and the conversation dies. When they do have any knowledge of ASL, itās easy. We can take turns being confused, the half-in-half-out Deafness where neither of us were quite good enough at our dialects to be concise and accurate, but we can go on and on. That conversation ends when we get bored or distracted, not because we canāt hear.
We were talking about that, the HOH person and a CODA. About how audiologists donāt even provide a means to get hearing aids or implants, let alone ASL classes. We get left high and dry to figure out how to deal with hearing loss without showing us Deaf gain. Canāt reintegrate as hearing, canāt get around without.
Itās not our fault we had to teach ourselves to sign. Itās not the non-signing personās fault they never had the chance. If we ever see an audiologist, maybe weāll make the recommendation.
šļøš·ļø allusions to abuse
I went to the Deaf event. A different Echo than the usual Echo, but an Echo nonetheless. We always introduce ourselves as Echo when we sign.
I lost a lot of my ASL since the last time I was around. Iām still proficient with our signed dialect, helpful as that is interacting in community (itās not). I found a few people learning, one HOH like us. They gave me resources to get hearing aids through Medicaid, and a phone number to practice together.
Thatās another aspect of Deafness in systems; we have varying levels of residual hearing. Usually, the person with the least of whatever weāre going in for is slapped up front. Itās a holdover from when we had to lie to doctors, I think. So, weāre collectively at least mildly hard of hearing. Iām not sure what switching physically does to our hearing, so maybe all we can do is accommodate the body and work to make ASL more systemwide.
Itād be good to see an audiologist either way. Iām between worlds right now, not hearing enough to be hearing but not fluent enough to be properly Deaf. If we can get hearing aids, we can at least interact with the hearing world until we qualify for an interpreter ā cause theyāre so easy to get (theyāre not). Iām better at voicing than the usual Echo, but thatās not the same as having communication. As having language.
As slowly as Iām learning (āslowly, slooowwly, like a turtleā as my neighbor put it), I will get it. Iām not the Echo that got to go to ASL class, the one semester we took it. We both started with mostly the dialect, though. Maybe we can practice amongst ourselves. If not⦠I always have that phone number.
I went to Pride! Itās the first time I ever got to go, and the music was so loud I could feel it. I always default to trying to sign, but itās been a struggle with our cane. Mostly Iām stuck with one hand, and I only fully sign when I can sit or I really canāt understand. I wonder if anybody would sign back, if I did make more of an effort with it.
Mostly I did the Deaf nod (smile and nod), repeat important information, maybe give our body name if Iām following the script well enough. It was still fun. I kinda like places where nobody can hear, I feel like I have the advantage for once. We had facepaint and flags and all the little things we left when we left the dorms.
Thereās a Deaf event tomorrow, maybe people will talk about Pride. I hope we can make it.
Iām wearing headphones. They arenāt good enough go at repeating noises to function as hearing aids, so I pretend to listen to music. I put on a playlist, sometimes I blast it to try and listen, but mostly I do it out of habit. I can hear words at half volume (like have awareness that there are words), but itās so much noise that I canāt make sense of. Yep. Thereās sound.
Why Iām Echo
šļøš·ļø RAMCOA (trafficking and scripting)
Growing up, I didnāt know why they called me Echo. Iāve always been hard of hearing, repeating what little I heard so people would listen. My family hated how I slurred my words and spent too long guessing what they had said to me. I echo. I read the Narcissus myth in grade school. I remember thinking thatās where the word came from, but I didnāt realize then just how much that story mattered to me.
I was raised with the story of Echo and Narcissus as the narrative of my life. I was a confidante to the women of my church. They told me I was so smart, so good with words despite barely speaking. My mother was an English teacher, and I loved to read.
They took me to the school where they worked one summer, had me clean up the classrooms. Eventually, they left me at a table to do homework, sent another woman to watch me. She helped me with my math while the other woman went on ālunch breakā ā apparently sleeping with that womanās husband. At the time, I hardly knew what was happening. They were all so mad.
It wasnāt a coincidence, I donāt think. They did something similar in my church group, then again at a āhouse partyā. Every time, I was the distraction. My homework, my writing, my āservicesā. As punishment each time, they took away my books. Those books were my door to language, used to bring them everywhere, and they ripped them apart and hid them.
While all this was going on, my church group was doing something similar to another boy. They made him hunt with the men, never let him look in the mirror, set up all these confessions towards him and trained him to be cruel to the people confessing. We were bonded together like that. They made me go confess my love to this stranger boy, who was fairly pretty, and made him hurt me. They kept us together often, even though we didnāt like each other, and we fought like cats and dogs.
For a while, I was sure he was dead. They told me he offed himself because of me (he was so stressed and angry, I really did believe them). I didnāt see him for a while. It was an ordeal figuring out how to get him back to himself, after finding out he wasnāt gone forever.
We get along better now, with years between that shit show and now. We get that so much of our lives were staged by the adults around us, and we think we know why they did it ā not the logic of why they thought it was a good idea, but what they were trying to get out of it ig. We werenāt the only kids they did this to, and weāve both played minor roles in other kidsā training.
Narcissus and I are alters in a system. All of my trigger words and all of his are linked up according to how we were trained. Thatās not the point of my blog, but the context is important.
The people who orchestrated it all are outside humans, still alive for the most part, and all the events happened in external reality with the exception of Narcissus and I having actual separate bodies (they just had someone else stand nearby so we thought the person we were talking to was physically present).
Itās been a journey piecing together where our stories fit together and placing it back in reality. Weāre not the only alters like this in our system, and weāre not the only system this happened to. The perps are still doing this, but weāre getting safe and trying to stop them from doing this to others.
So. My name is Echo, like the Greek myth, and Iām just a Deaf girl. This is my blog about being Deaf and living with the fucked up childhood I had because of it. Iām one of three Echos who came out of that fiasco, using this blog with every other ASL native alter in the system. The worst is passed, and Iām excited to make a life for myself in the present. Nice to meet you!