Endo Haven

A place to rant, vent, or get support! Run by a pro-endo RAMCOA-DID system!

[endo-haven]

Endo Haven!

This is a pro endo blog, so if you’re not endo or not supportive of them please kindly leave! It’s alright if you’re neutral or avoid syscourse but please don’t bring negativity in here. This is meant to be a place to talk freely without judgement about your system otherwise we’re no better than FDC or SC.

What can you do here?

There’s a lot you can do here such as:

There’s a lot you can do here such as:

Ranting

Venting

Talking about Hyperfixations

Infodumping

Submitting Posts

Asking Questions

Talking with Us

Talking about your Experiences

The Venting Rules!

I only ask that there are proper trigger/content warnings when applicable!

You can vent about anti endos, you can vent about your day, anything about RAMCOA/OEA, absolutely anything! This is a safe space for all! If you don’t want to see the vents then feel free to block the tags endo-haven-vent and endo-haven-vents!

The Question Rules!

You can ask anything within reason! We don’t mind answering any questions at all! But if it goes past what we’re comfortable sharing we don’t have to answer! If you want to know about us check under the cut first!

You’re also free to ask questions for other anons and people to reply to, getting answers and advice is always a good thing!

Claimed SignOffs

- ⚡️🐩🟦🟨

- Skizz💙

- Starlight🌌

- 🍂☘️ system

- 🍓🍰

- 🎨🥫

- 🧣🌀sys

- 💜💠⚔️🌌☔️✨🪽 sys

- 🦴🐦‍⬛

- #nw💫

- 🌀👁️‍🗨️

FAQ / About The Owners!

We are a Diagnosed DID system! While we are traumagenic we support endos and all types of systems! We have been in both sides of the community for a long time and have done a lot of research with our psychiatric team and personally so please don’t assume we’re just ignorant or don’t know a lot.

We will not be signing off alters that post but you are free to do so! We won’t be sharing our other socials on here unless on our main blog and close friends!

Promo Ping

@inclusysboxes @inclusiveplurality @pluralrights @plural-polls @systempositive @pluralitywords @pluralterms @pluralprompts @pluralpolls @pluralpedia

[endo-haven]

hey all! life has been crazy and stupid and we’re SO sorry about not being active D:

we’ve moved our main blog which also means we have not been as active on here, we’re considering making a new plural blog or just leaving this how it has been

hop you have all been well in our absence :]

[endo-haven]

I was wondering about something regarding RAMCOA systems. (Apologies if this is insensitive)

Is it possible for like, only a particular subsystem to have programming, or would most of the system have to have it?

Is it possible to be nondisordered but have RAMCOA programming? Like, prior to therapy. Is it possible for someone to either just not notice the disordered aspects and think they’re nondisordered, or to manage triggers well enough that it doesn’t cause them enough distress to qualify for a diagnosis?

Also, (not necessarily RAMCOA-related) would it ever be possible for complex systems to have some parts of their system be more or less disordered than the “baseline”? (For example, a system which has some subsystems that qualify for DID, but the system as a whole only meets OSDD, or even a nondisordered system that has disordered subsystems?

I hope these questions don’t come across as rude or invasive; I’m just trying to understand things better

this isn’t insensitive at all! i’m happy to answer things when it come to being RAMCOA

it isn’t possible for only one subsystem to be programmed. the whole system would have to be programmed, from there other subsystems could and likely would have different variants of programming but the whole system needs to be programmed

it isn’t possible to be non disordered and RAMCOA, and you would not be able to believe you are non disordered and then find out later you’re RAMCOA due to how debilitating it is compared to even a generally disordered system. Managing triggers as a RAMCOA system is far far harder than it is for disordered systems alone

the baseline is that for a reason, subsystems may rarely be able to be more separated or disordered than the base but it is extremely unlikely. undisorderd systems could have some disorderd alters and sub stems but that is also extremely unlikely and more of a rare case situation

i hope these answer your questions and i’m always happy to answer things about being RAMCOA :]

[endo-haven]

i find it very telling that on an anti-syscourse blog that i started, the only hateful submissions i've got have been from anti endos...... when all i ever said was that i don't want people to argue and generally want the community to get along......

- as above, so below sys (🦴🐦‍⬛)

yes it’s always the anti endos being so toxic and harmful. they cant accept neutral or no syscourse and its so disgusting how they treat even their own community

[endo-haven]

(vent, mentions harassment, trolls, antis, assassins, killing, anf manipulation)

FUUUUCK! i messed up, and the system might be a tad at risk of harassment rn, because i was careless. like i should have taken a step back and thought about it, but no, i just played into their hand. i gave weapons directly to internet trolls and/or antis, and its fucking me up. like im a fictive of an assassin, one of the best in their lands only beaten out by their father. antis and trolls hiding behind screens are some of the people i should be least afraid of, but i handed them a golden ticket of amo against us by being careless. it is fucking me up so bad said father had to get my best friend to try and help calm me. like sure its not someone trying to kill or manipulate me like it usually is when i fuck up like this, but for fucks sake, i know better than this.

it’s easy to make mistakes and forget to think, antis know how to get into people’s heads and make them mess up. it wasn’t your fault and you didn’t mean to so just make sure to take time and be gentle with yourself. antis are horrible and you shouldn’t have to deal with them

[endo-haven]

Wanting to find more plural friends as a mixed origin system but trying to form friendships inorganically is so fucking hard 💔

Like I want more people I can hang out with where I don't have to worry about being judged for any facet of our system (I want more people to hangout with in general) but man... stuck feeling, especially with systemhood because being mixed origin always feel like I'm in a weird limbo with both sides.

-🍀✨️ (if it's okay to take this as a sign-off)

that’s such an upsetting situation to be in. i hope you can get more comfortable but i do know the feeling of being stuck between communities but i’m sure there plenty of others that feel the same who you could befriend

[endo-haven]

To answer 🦴🐦‍⬛ system's ask, our biggest collective interest is mcyt! More specifically the life series, hermitcraft and empires smp! We have zero non-mcyt fictives, and almost everyone in the sys has a big interest in the series, either bc their just fans, it's their source or they had an interest in history while in source and that carried over when they walked in.

We've seen a LOT of other plurals in the mcyt community! It's really a wonder how these block people draw in systems

i’ve also noticed a lot of plurals in the mcyt community! it’s one of the places i find most people can find the safest

[endo-haven]

I'm so tired of anti-endos. I'm very tired of having to check every single blog I interact with. I'm just tired...

i know how tiring that is, it can be so draining which is why i encourage taking breaks and making sure to simply block anyone you don’t like at all

[endo-haven]

HI. UH IM BACK. I HAVE NEWS.

If you remember, I was asking my two friends their opinions on syscourse and both are anti

O-o

Oh boy.

(oh well, one is willing to look into it, the other is anti but uninformed, both think endos are harmful and fakers)

Help.

-🍂☘️

oh gosh, well there’s still hope! and you can try show them some good resources and blogs

[endo-haven]

scatters in and waves !!! haaaiii guys we just wanted to say you're all very sweet. :)) QUESTION PROMPT FOR THE BLOG SO HOPEFULLY SOME PEOPLE SEND IN ASKS, WHAT ARE YOUR GUYS' INTERESTS??? and if you want to info dump i promote it, i will read anything anyone says because i check this blog frequently :DD - as above, so below sys (🦴🐦‍⬛)

thank you so much!!

i’m actually very bad at infodumping due to years of masking but.. i really love minecraft and a lot of the mcyt community, it’s always been a big comfort for me :] and i also really love games like hello charlotte and omori!

[endo-haven]

ngl I feel like the endo community focusing all it has on term coining is creating a genuine accessibility barrier

the community doesn’t focus all it has on terms, but it focuses some of it just like the anti-endo community. i think it’s quite important for us to have our own labels and terms that make sense to us even if anti-endos might try steal them

nothing feels more comforting than a sense of belonging and identity

[endo-haven]

To both the mcyt introject post and the no doubles post: I want to join in too! (/lh /j)

We can form doubles, but there's a rule that there can be no duplicate names here, and when forming members, well.. they have to meet criteria

Not so much for media/cartoons/etc, but the source has to at least be genuine if it's a real person, just so we don't end up with another "please don't ask about my source, he's shit" situation

The criteria list also includes the amount of media with character/person and it's like 20hrs or something lmao, there's other boxes too

Anyway, my main point, We don't usually form doubles, we do however have five introjects of the same dude, only one has the source name though, the others are.. creative.

And then, we only have two more pairs of doubles (is that English? Who cares) and then two pairs of "these two used to be one person, they split, technically now they are doubles of the source"

We thought we couldn't form doubles until 🔗❗ showed up and we were like: "hey, wait a minute.. that's not right" (then had to rework everything because it broke too many things lol)

To summarise, we don't have doubles usually, except that one dude, no one person can share a name, and we also have to like a person to introject them (? I think, idk man, I'm sleepy lmao)

-🍂☘️

thats quite confusing to keep track of, i can imagine how a double suddenly forming could throw all that off.. that is quite a cool and unique way for your system to function tho!

[endo-haven]

To that mcyt introject one post, we have the opposite. We're unable to form doubles at all, we never had introjects from the same character source, only their versions if they are vastly different.

Like how in Transformers (fictive heavy of that one lol) there's a bunch of films, cartoons and comics, and we can have each version of specific character, but never from the same continuity. We had two characters who shared the same name but they were from different universes you could say. Two from the same source, but from different time periods.

Saves us some trouble, but still jsnxjsmxks. Bonus to fakeclaimers, we only form characters we like on top of that. -🌀👁️‍🗨️

at least you don’t have to worry about double interacting within the system! but wow that must be hard to keep track of

[endo-haven]

we’ve noticed a lot of people have been struggling with finding terms, roles and etc! not to mention finding pro endo blogs that do that..

our friend has recently started a blog to coin terms and share ones they’ve made! so if you’re looking for advice, terms or anything else go check out @dedicated-coins and get some love!

[endo-haven]

Something I know would get our system fakeclaimed to hell and back simply by the nature of it but its still so funny to us is that we can only have mcyt introjects . like we literally are incapable of having anything else. we’ve made non-mcyt willomates before only for them to fuse into a mcyt introject. itd probably be a bit unethical to test it a bit more but its so fucking funny and we don’t even know why it happens 😭 we dont even watch minecraft stuff anymore was our mcyt era really that much of a huge role in our life

-🍓🍰

oh god… i know that exact situation allll too well, nothing like having 20 doubles but god forbid you try split from another source!

[endo-haven]

hey guys! so we're new to endo spaces (we just recently got more informed and became much more nuanced on syscourse) and don't know many endo terms and things like that! if anybody would care to explain certain system origins, terms, etc., that'd be really great. we really want to be as open and accepting as possible so we want to be informed about things like that!! thank you!! :)) (to explain more, basically what i want to know is what are things like willogenic [i think that's what it's called?], and stuff along those lines? if anybody would like to explain their specific origins, i'm happy to listen!! anything like that. :DD) - as above, so below sys (🦴🐦‍⬛)

welcome to this side of the community! i hope you’ll realise we’re a lot nicer (and better) :]

i personally don’t know too much about willogenic and similar terms but i’m answering this so hopefully some people can comment and help you out! i’d also recommend checking pluralpedia and around here on tumblr to learn terms!

[endo-haven]

skitters in here like that one cat. may everybody have a good day and drink some water !

- #nw💫 (aka my system tag everywhere thumbsup)

everyone make sure to drink water and take your meds!!