âThe Championship Argumentâ
Lebron James and the Cavs successfully avoided elimination for the second straight game against the Warriors, and by doing so, have extended the NBA Finals to a what is sure to be an unforgettable Game 7. Â With Lebron James in the Finals for a the 6th straight time (NBA record) the dreaded âchampionship argumentâ has once again reared itâs ugly head. Â For those that donât know, itâs a debate that essentially judges a playerâs âgreatnessâ based upon the amount of championships that player has won. Â It appears to be a logical criticism, except when you realize Lebron James doesnât play tennis, golf, or any other sport where the individual is solely responsible for the outcome of the game. Â In recent years, this argument is largely focused on two athletes: Lebron James and Peyton Manning. Â Given their talents and the nature of their sports, the fact that both individuals have a âless than stellarâ record in championship games always seems to be a determining factor when discussing whether or not they should be regarded as âthe greatest of all timeâ. Â Peyton was able to silence his critics in February when he won his second Super Bowl, and now itâs Lebronâs chance to remove the albatross from around his neck, even though it really doesnât exist. Â
The âchampionship argumentâ, by its very nature, is illogical. Â You cannot judge a playerâs individual greatness by using a team based statistic. Â That is just common sense. Â Now before you attempt to jump down my throat, letâs clarify a few things here. Â We are talking about a playerâs âgreatnessâ, not a playerâs âlegacyâ. Â They are two completely different measurements. Â Greatness is tangible, and can be determined by looking at the overall statistics throughout a playerâs career. Â For Lebron, it could be points, rebounds, assists, steals, turnovers, etc. Â For Peyton, touchdowns, yards, interceptions, completion percentage..you get the point. Â Looking at those statistics, compared to other players, will give you a clear picture where that individual ends up. Â Obviously, like anything involving stats, you can break it down as much as youâd like, but the numbers never lie. Â Based upon the benchmark that is greatness, where does that player land? Â Legacy, on other hand, takes those same statistics and factors in the intangibles. Â Itâs the sum of all parts of that playerâs career, factoring in things like performance in the clutch, impact on overall game, play style, off the field activity, and a multitude of other factors, including how many championships that player has won or lost. Â Terry Bradshaw won 4 Super Bowls in a 6 year period with the Steelers. Â Thatâs one hell of a legacy, but does Terry Bradshaw come up in the conversation when you talk about the greatest quarterbacks of all time? Â Robert Horry has 7 NBA Championships, but isnât even in the conversation of NBA greats. Â He does, however, have a legacy of playing on great teams and being âBig Shot Bobâ. Â The list goes on and on. Â We can talk about Dan Marino and Barry Sanders in the NFL, or Patrick Ewing and Charles Barkley in the NBA. Â Not a single one of those 4 guys have a championship.
Now that we have hopefully debunked the championship argument as it relates to a playerâs individual greatness, how much of an effect should losses in championship games have on that playerâs legacy? Â After all, we are still talking about team sports here. Â For this argument to have any credibility, you would need to examine the performance of that player in those games, but even that doesnât mean much. Â Letâs say a QB has the single greatest game in NFL history in the Super Bowl, and loses it on a missed field goal. Â Suppose that happens 5 years in a row, and he retires never winning a ring. Â Years later, we will look at that QBâs legacy and say âhe was great, but he never won the big gameâ. Â Now suppose his opponent for all 5 of those losses is the same team with the same QB, and in each game, that QB puts up mediocre numbers, essentially underperforming when compared to his regular season numbers. Â Our first QB, the âloserâ, is the all time NFL leader in all the important categories, and won the regular season MVP 5 times in the 10 seasons he played in the NFL. Â Our second QB, the 5x Super Bowl Champion, is in the Top 5 of all the same categories and won the MVP twice in his 10 year career. Â If I were to ask you which QB has the better legacy, who would you pick? Â The all time NFL leader in every passing category who lost 5 straight Super Bowlâs, or the 5x Super Bowl Champion who is in the top 5 of every important passing category? Â The latter sounds like the better choice, except each one of those wins had nothing to do with him, and more to do with a botched field goal. Â In 10 years, nobody will remember the statistics from the game, just the outcome.
Unfortunately, things aren't as clear cut as that lengthy hypothetical I just laid out.  With a loss on Sunday, Lebron James will fall to 2-5 in his NBA Finals career, a record that will surely, albeit unfairly, plague his legacy.  Itâs an argument that will never go away, and will eventually find itself attached to current stars like Kevin Durant and Andrew Luck.  For anyone who still believes in this argument, allow me to end with some stats.  Hate him or love him, itâs quite a feat to be involved in 6th straight NBA Finals, and by the looks of it, I wouldnât be surprised if we see it get to 7 or 8.  Thereâs no need to debate his greatness, because it is already cemented.  Thatâs just pure stupidity.  But for those who question his legacy, here are his numbers for all 7 of his NBA Finals appearancesâŚ
2007- Cleveland Cavaliers vs San Antonio Spurs (Spurs won in 4) 22.0 PPG, 7.0 RPG, 6.8 APG *First NBA finals appearance. Â Many say his worst showing, but take into consideration he was only 22. Â 18.3 turnover percentage. Â Completely outmatched by the vastly superior Spurs. Â First NBA Finals loss.
2011 - Miami Heat vs Dallas Mavericks (Dallas won in 6) 17.8 PPG, 7.2 RPG, 6.8 APG *13.7 Game Score. Â Third on his team in scoring. Â 24 turnovers. Â 60% from free throw line. Another un-king like performance. Â Public enemy number 1 ever since âThe Decisionâ, and promising not 1, not 2, not 3...you know the rest. Â Outside of Miami, he gets zero love. Â Haters rejoice. Â Now heâs 0-2
2012 - Miami Heat vs Oklahoma City Thunder (Miami won in 5) 28.6 PPG, 10.2 RPG, 7.4 APG *First NBA Championship. Â Game Score of 23.6. Â Finals MVP. Â Still somewhat loathed. Now heâs 1-2
2013 - Miami Heat vs San Antonio Spurs (Miami won in 7) 25.3 PPG, 10.9 RPG, 7.0 APG *For those that they he wasnât clutch, his game 7 numbers will shut them up. Â 37 points on 52% shooting, 12 rebounds and 4 assists. Â Back to back championships. Â The word dynasty is starting to get thrown around. Â Now heâs 2-2.
2014 - Miami Heat vs San Antonio Spurs (Spurs won in 5) 28.2 PPG, 7.8 RPG, 4.0 APG *Outmatched again, and Lebron had a horrible turnover percentage (15%) while carrying the load. Â Lead the team in every major category. Â Dynasty over. Â Now heâs 2-3.
2015 - Cleveland Cavaliers vs Golden State Warriors (GS won in 6) 35.8 PPG, 13.3 RPG, 8.8 APG *God like performance, although the haters will talk about his shooting percentage. Â No Kevin Love or Kyrie, and he still managed to be the first player to ever lead both teams in points, assists, and rebounds. Â The prodigal son has returned. Â Still has a ton of haters, but WOW, what a performance. Now heâs 2-4.
2016 - Cleveland Cavaliers vs Golden State Warriors (Game 7) 30.2 PPG, 11.3 RPG, 8.5 APG *Shooting 51% through 6 games, and has brought his team back from a 3-1 deficit to force a Game 7. Â People are calling him a cry baby and saying the NBA is fixed, as if they donât remember Michael Jordan being hand-fed grapes by the officials.
NBA Finals Career Stats (2-4) 26.8 PPG, 9.6 RPG, 7 APG *Includes 2016 NBA Finals Stats
Numbers donât lie. Â If you look at Lebron and see 4 NBA Finals losses (possibly 5 come Monday), you arenât looking close enough. Â The problem with guys like Lebron James and Peyton Manning is that they are too great. Â We expect them to win absolutely everything, and thatâs why this ridiculous argument somehow finds its way into the conversation. Â Nobody is talking about regular season MVP Steph Curryâs poor performance this NBA Finals and the fact that he is a defensive liability, at least not yet. Â Steph is one of those guys who could be grouped into this debate in a few years, depending on what the outcome is on Sunday. Â Either way, the âchampionship argumentâ is dead and buried as far as iâm concerned. Â If you want to talk about the âlegacy argumentâ, thatâs a different debate for a different time. Â In the meantime, just be thankful you got to see guys like Lebron James and Peyton Manning in their primes. Â Spend more time enjoying their greatness rather than trying to find illogical reasons to destroy it. Â
tl;dr: Lebron and Peyton are great, and youâre an idiot if you donât agree.













