Charlie and Vaggi standing dead center in the new standee, holding hands and enclosing the hotel, the manifestation of their shared dream, in a heart...
I was checking out the info about the new Chaggie Youtooz plush and saw this
... what do you mean "HONEYMOON SUITE"????
They are baiting me at this point
(Mini disclaimer: while youtooz merch is made in association with the official merch team I'd assume, I still doubt it could be considered 100% canon, so treat this accordingly)
Anyway, Chaggie proposal in season 3 is so real and true it's crazy /lh
The concept of the exorcist Carmilla killed being Vaggi's friend we've seen in the flashback AND Vaggi being the one that killed Carmilla's spouse during an extermination.
Just mass edited tags on my main blog to replace "vaggie" with "vaggi", and it was 912 posts in total š³. I know it's been almost over 2 years at this point since I've been rebloging Hazbin stuff, but still, crazy to see the exact number and it being so high.
I recently listened to the season 1 commentary track by Viv, Skye (Animation Director) and Sam (Art Director).
There are some general summaries going around already, so I thought I'd do one focused on the Charlie/Vaggi/Chaggie related infos we get to know from it.
Contains: lore, fun facts, behind the scenes info and personal comments from them as well
I might have still missed some things, and it's really fun content in general as well, so I definitely recommend listening to it on your own if you are able to!
Under the cut because the amount of info is pretty uneven per episode, so I wanted to do it all in a single post and it got pretty long.
Episode one
- Erika recorded the entirety of Happy Day in Hell in a single take
- "If there is one thing Charlie knows how to do, it's run and cry." (Sam) [referencing how she uses her walk cycle the least out of the characters, since she runs everywhereš]
Episode two
- "Angel, just try for 2 seconds, and Charlie would be all over you." (Skye) [about the redemption exercises]
- "Picks up girlfriend, puts down, love them." (Skye)
Episode three
- Charlie made the "Happy first week Sir Pentious" sign
- "What's fun about Vaggi is that she is the "straight man" of the show, it's kinda her job to get things done." (Viv)
- "This universe is so zany and crazy, she brings a very calm and like a "this is stupid you guys" energy." (Viv), for example pointing out that Alastor is eating raw deer in that one scene. This also serves well as a clue to point out that she is not from Hell/ she is not a sinner, she just brings a whole different energy to a room
- her being more restrained and authoritative and just "over the bullshit" is a first kind of implication of her being an exorcist angel
- she treats the trust exercise like a drill sergent because that's what she is used to
- Vaggi knows a lot about Hell because she made an effort to learn as much as she could. For example, she knows who Carmilla and Alastor are, she did her research
- "She meets Charlie and goes "Yeah I know Hell shit, I know all this, I am a Hell expert dude, I have been here the whole time". " (All) š
- Charlie is just simply too nice to say "Get the fuck away from me" to the people who approach her in the clubš
- "Vaggi's just whole existence has been being a protector and being a warrior, so this is a little bit of an insight that she feels like she is expected to do that in the relationship as well." (Viv)
-This is something that's gonna be unpacked throughout the whole show
*personal note, Viv actually starts saying "life" first and corrects it to "existence" quickly. An other one for the "exorcists are created" theory*
- Viv says that Chaggie wasn't technically confirmed in the pilot, but it was something she wanted to do and what felt right for the characters as she was developing the show. Their dynamic is very comfortable with eachother
- "I want the challenge for Charlie and Vaggi to be that they are in a commited relationship but they are having actual struggles with the world they are in and their kinda dynamic with eachother and their own traumas." (Viv)
- "[The lighter/softer version of Vaggi in Whatever it takes] is an aspect of the real her that she has to mask." (Viv)
- "She is an angel, she is soft." (Skye) š„¹
- "I think it's funny that Vaggi sings about being the armour, but later on you'll see that she is more like the weapon and Charlie is her shield" (Skye, Sam)
Episode four
- they had a problem with Vaggi sitting on her own hair in the intro scene, since it's so long. In the end they were like "don't worry about it, don't think about it's too much" š
- [at the end of the episode] "This is one of Charlie's first lesson on empathy with her guests because she doesn't understand them, and she is in this power position that is so different." (Viv)
Episode five
- "Charlie is just easy to move around" [referring to people just pushing her to places, like Lucifer and Alastor both in that one scene] (All)
- Vaggi looking away when Charlie and Lucifer are talking about Heaven is an other bit of foreshadowing
Episode six
- Emily is a character who existed for a long time and was always meant to be a counterpart to Charlie
- the exorcists are Adam's army and he is the one naming all of them
- the origin of Vaggi's name is simply that back in the day Viv thought it would be funny if her name was pronounced a certain way but read in a certain other way that was clearly "vagina" š
- in the alleyway scene, Charlie and Vaggi are in their pilot outfits. For Vaggi, it's the outfit she wears under her armour
- the trashcan was intentionally included in the scene, as a way to imply that Vaggi hid her wings and clothes, so Charlie doesn't notice them
*can I just say, the implication that Vaggi had to throw her own recently severed limbs in the trash is literally insane??? Give her a break pleaseš*
- "[Charlie] is a homeschooled nepo baby" (Sam)
- [right before Adam reveals her identity] "I was like Vaggi come on, you know she [Charlie] would love you no matter what." (Skye) š„¹
Episode seven
- "In this scene [after Alastor and Charlie make the deal] we got some drama between our girls. (Viv)
Nooo, but they are in loveš„¹." (Sam, then repeated by Viv as well)
- "Charlie needs somebody to be giving her advice that is soft and gentle, and Vaggi needs someone that is badass and can beat the shit out of her" (Viv and Skye)
- they made sure that in the animation, Carmilla will only hit Vaggi with her knees/back of her foot, not with her angelic steel heels
- "Carmilla is this kinda of "no nonsense" person which matches Vaggi's vibe, since she was an exorcist and warrior, so she appreciates that type of "tough love" kind of advice more, while Charlie is very gentle and needs some coddling and Rosie is that character with a lot of nice advice that is really warm." (Viv)
- "I love that we don't have to have all the drama of always fighting, like Charlie and Vaggi do fight, then it's resolved naturally and nicely, nothing is left out there." (Skye)
- "I just feel like these two characters, they love each other, they are together, they are pre-established, obviously it's a massive secret, but, you know, like Rosie said what have her actions said, do you really think that she is lying about all of this, and the answer is no." (Viv)
- Cannibal Town is the place where Charlie's special skill of doing broadwayish numbers is finally paying off
- "Charlie, calm down, what do you meanšš?" [After the "the wings are new... they look nice" scene]
Episode eight
- "We had our top gay artist on this [More Than Anything Reprise]." (Skye) š
- "Everyone loves Charlie and Vaggi, it was a fight, who would get the Chaggie shots, the kiss specifically, it was like a war. Everyone would type "just so you know, I do love Charlie/Vaggi" and I had to be like "Guys only one [person] can have the kiss". " (Skye)
- the Vagatha scene with Pentious was a nod to Vaggi's old "full name" that Viv confirmed impulsively in a stream a while back, but later backtracked on
- Viv was very specific about the Lute vs. Vaggi fight, she wanted it to be the most brutal and realistic, to really get the feeling that they are trying to kill eachother
- [after Vaggi's wings reveal during the fight] "I like the subtleness that she just hasn't had them for so long and she has been hiding them so much that we get it as a reveal like wait a minute, I can reclaim this part of me that was taken away from me." (Viv)
- [about Adam's dead] "Vaggi is so excited, she is just like finally, fuck this guy" (Sam, Skye)
Aaand that's it. I tried my best to edit/correct it all, but I apologise if there are any mistakes.
So the official Hellaverse account on twitter posted a video recently, captioned "Hell is for loversā¤ļø" that was a compilation of Chaggie and Moxxie/Millie moments.
Drawing parallels with the only married ship (that we've seen interact) in the Hellaverse...
Also, Angel teasing Vaggi about her going to ask Lucifer something, saying that it "must be important"...
Lucifer telling her to call him "Daddy" (something you'd only typically do with your significant other's parent after you get married)...
Charlie presenting the namecards to Vaggi in a fancy box...
Some people really watched Vaggi try multiple names and obviously not like any of them throughout the season and are still upset she didn't change it to something completely different in the end.
Don't get me wrong, I would have loved some type of resulotion, for example her saying:
"Honestly, I did change the pronunciation, just needed the spelling to match it."
after Charlie gave her the namecard or something like that.
And while it's just something small, I think it does work as her keeping it the same but still reclaiming it on her own terms. This time it's her choice.
Did my best but it seems like they stopped counting just before the ep 5-6 soundtrack dropped. Had Sera's confession in my top 100 and I saw other people get songs from ep 3-4, but not any from the later eps from what I've seen. Next year thenš
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