I just spent like half an hour on your training talk tag, and seeing how much you dislike CA. I don't worship the dude, but his shit really does work. If it's expedited PROPERLY. But so many people do it poorly and in my opinion that's where most of these "abuse" slanders stem from. I don't follow his shit 💯 but I do some of his ground work and my horses attitudes and respect towards me is incredible. And I don't abuse my horses at all, before you say I do.
k so I was half asleep and pulled out my laptop just for you, congratulations
1. ‘respect’ and ‘attitude’ are meaningless in the context of training animals. Literally any animal behaviorist, anyone who trains animals with any kind of basis in animal psychology, anyone with basic knowledge of animal cognition, will tell you so. Don’t believe me? Idc, go read some books. If you feel like reading some more of my tags, try out /respect or /dominance, The Horse has a few good articles. If your animal performs some behavior it has nothing to do with ‘respect’ or ‘attitude’ it has to do with ‘I’m especially itchy because of flies today and I’m grumpy’ or ‘I know if I stand too close I’ll get smacked with the rope’. Horses do what they’re trained to do, they don’t perform specific behaviors because oh gee they have so much love and respect for that person. That’s a pipe dream.
2. @clintonandersonbeatinghorses here are about a thousand reasons why allegations of ‘abuse’ aren’t fucking slander. Do his methods work? Like I give a fuck. There are a shitton of trainers whose methods work who don’t hit a blind horse on the damn face, or yank on a tight rope halter with like four goddamn knots on it, or flip a horse over backwards, or who don’t lope two year olds with their noses to their chest. His methods working is not the point. That he’s a giant ASSHOLE who’s making truckloads of money advocating and training abusive methods is the point.
3. RE: his methods work. THEY AREN’T HIS METHODS. As much as he likes to preach about his specific steps, and specific equipment, literally everything is ripped off because guess what, horses have been trained for thousands of years, and so horse trainers have pretty much got it down by now. Yield the hindquarters so you don’t get kicked. Obviously. Back the horse up out of your space so you don’t accidentally get trampled. Duh. Escalate pressure until you get a reaction, then release the pressure as the reward/to reinforce the behavior. Not rocket science. Don’t take away a scary stimuli if the horse moves away, because then you are reinforcing moving away. These are the freaking ABCs. I use these methods. You know who else uses these methods? Literally any other trainer I can think of (that isn’t a big clicker buff). Warwick Schiller, Will Faerber, that riding success chick, Pat Parelli, Monty Roberts, trainers at the spanish riding school, Carl Hester, my aunt’s sister’s boyfriend’s cousin who trains horses, probably every equine vet that needs to not be trampled. Literally every horse trainer applies aversive pressure, escalates the pressure until they get a reaction they want, and then removes the pressure. It’s just fucking Clinton Anderson who tries to put his patent on the ABCs of basic horsemanship and does so in the flashiest, most dramatic, harshest way possible. Nothing about his method is new. The only thing he brings to the table is his brutality and marketing ability. Oh yeah, and the total absence of any regard for the horse’s soundness and longterm biomechanical health. Guess what Clint? IT’S NOT HEALTHY TO RIDE TWO YEAR OLDS IN HYPERFLEXION. Guess what Clint? IT’S NOT HEALTHY FOR YOUR ‘LUNGING’ TO CONSIST OF A HORSE CIRCLING YOU AT AN UNBALANCED SPRINT OFF A ROPE HALTER.
4. If you don’t follow his methods and you don’t abuse your horses then what’s your deal? Why are you even sending this message? You just can’t stand to see me shitting on a poor, sad, adult man who’s making money faster than he can spend it on stupid hats by marketing animal abuse to poor misinformed hobby riders who just want a bond with their horse? Poor him. Poor Clinton Anderson. It’s so sad that a few people on the internet see him smacking around terrified horses and say ‘hey not cool’. That must really hurt his feelings. God I hope it hurts his sales, even a little.
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