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All four of my grandparents spoke Yiddish as their native language before coming to the US after the Holocaust, and I honestly hate this narrative so much. Yeah, speaking Yiddish in Israel was discouraged because they wanted to make the shift to speaking Hebrew. But there's a reason I was never taught Yiddish when living in the US, and it's not Zionism.

aliciabenissa

Can't repeat this enough for the anti-Zionist Yiddishists:

Some Yiddish speakers (coughmyfamilycough) fundamentally viewed Yiddish as a slave language and therefore REFUSED to pass it to their children while in the US. They favored Hebrew as an emancipated Jewish language.

You do not get to take this away from my family and the families of others just because it doesn't suit your political narrative.

galateaunloved

^^^ ESPECIALLY in the U.S., and prewar jews considered yiddish a slave language. Assimilation to the golden place of USA was critical, this is why my family on both sides never passed down yiddish. And don't think they weren't zionists--my grandmothers ran their local ORT and Hadasssah chapters.

franavu

The western yiddish my ancestors would have spoken got assimilated away in the 19th century. And yes, part of that was because yiddish was considerd "uncivilised" and "backwards."

charlesoberonn

English has some extremely specific words like "defenestrate" but then there're words like "fine" that have like six unrelated definitions.

prismatic-bell

I have terrible news for you about "good."

feste-the-mad

Well that doesn't sound good.

prismatic-bell

😂😂😂

As far as I know, it has four meanings, none of which are related: a tangible object for sale is a good, a state of personal wellbeing, I.e. "I'm doing good," an abstract attribute of pleasantness e.g. "that's a really good painting," and a state of moral superiority, e.g. good versus evil.

franavu

I work in translation and don't talk to me about "property", the current bane of my existence.

charlesoberonn

I looked up the definitions of "property" because I could only think of 'something you own' and 'trait or attribute'.

I was today years old when I found out prop is short for property

franavu

Welp, I'm today years old too, learning that.

But I'm currently working on a real estate thing, and it's used for a house (and I need to translate differently for "a house you own that you're living in" and "a building that you own"), the land the house is on, real estate in general, and probably a few I'm not remembering right now. And it's all just "property" in English.

charlesoberonn

English has some extremely specific words like "defenestrate" but then there're words like "fine" that have like six unrelated definitions.

prismatic-bell

I have terrible news for you about "good."

feste-the-mad

Well that doesn't sound good.

prismatic-bell

😂😂😂

franavu

I work in translation and don't talk to me about "property", the current bane of my existence.

#language

pagecommando

"I think a lot of Americans are not used to the level of serious criticism from outside the US that we’re seeing January now. To the point it genuinely gets to some of them on a deeply personal level whenever they seeing anything online." Someone allegedly from fucking Scotland whose entire blog is about Scottish independence talking about how "Democrats are Half the Problem Too. Whole system needs replaced." is not serious, nor is it criticism. It the same lazy George Carlin In the 80s? Tier whining we've heard for decades. It's giving non-voting pot-smoking libertarian hippie. Like. At least have the decency to be an American non-voting pot-smoking libertarian hippie if you want to be this uninformed while cosplaying as a moral voice.

Chaser

afurioushawk

The best thing about the Internet is that it has really eviscerated the idea that Europeans are superior to us. That was a very common idea throughout most of American history - for white supremacy reasons, for self-flagellating reasons, etc. - and then the Internet exposed that Europoids, despite constantly whining about being exposed to our pop culture (as if we control what airs on their networks), know frighteningly very little about us while being confidently wrong about very basic American government and civics. Which I wouldn't normally expect foreigners to understand, but our European Betters have decided our politics are their fun little games, so I'd expect y'all to at least, bare minimum, understand the history of the two-party system if you're going to be up in our business.

Also, we don't have to listen to xenophobes. Because that's what a lot of this boils down to: being xenophobic to Americans is praxis, apparently.

pagecommando

Notes: 1) It is in fact trashy to speak incorrectly about something you don't know about. 2) Aren't screeds like this typically written with cut-out magazine letters? 3) Who BUILT The Americas AS colonies using "Genocide and Slavery"? Was it... Europe first? Wao!

3) So you agree, Democrats are not the same as Republicans?

4) "Your country LOVES guns- fucking use them already!" No U. Liberate us with military force. please.

arandomshotinthedark

I just saw that response to my post and I'm just...disappointed.

Here I am, bringing up something being done-is it perfect? No, but its not nothing either. "Both sides are the same" is the reply.

The goal post was moved so fast it made my head spin and only showed they have a very surface level understanding of US politics.

Just....disappointed.

pagecommando

The thing to notice isn't the "Oh man yeah I guess I did spout off there, I guess I AM throwing stones from my glass house, how was I incorrect?" but the instant pivot to the US and Israel from "Hey if you want to incorrectly talk shit about us, I'm going to correctly point out that Iran influence operations are/were promoting Scottish independence." while talking about "Democrat Presidents" For people focused on "Americans Can't take Serious Criticism" they're shit about dealing with the mildest pushback themselves.

arandomshotinthedark

Yeah like my reply was based in me thinking 'Hey, they didn't know about this. Why would they? They're not American, I should let them know what's going on.' So that's why I brought up that there are attempts being done.

Only to get 'both sides are the same'. Like...clearly they're not if one party is trying to remove Hegseth. That alone says they're not (and doesn't get into the whole minority status of the group trying and so on). And I am deeply suspicious of someone that once given facts about the US political system, immediately goes 'both sides are the same.'

At BEST, it says they're ignorant and/or signaling they don't want to engage further...which why engage at all then? Talking politics by its very nature will involve people engaging-unless you're looking for an echo chamber. If you're going to talk like you know something, people are going to engage with that and if it means you find yourself out of your depth, then you back off but understand that it's time to listen and learn. Not double down like you're morally superior, because you're not. As it turns out, they're just as bad with criticism as the Americans they decry.

At WORST they are a psyop that's helping spread the 'both sides are the same' that helps people like Trump, Putin and others. Which puts a far darker lens on their pivot.

Also, I didn't catch this earlier and this is more general, but I want it known that I really don't care for people saying Europoids or other variations. It brings to mind shit like race science and I'm very much not for that.

franavu

Nah, he's a real person, just in the habit of spreading misinformation if it confirms his prejudices. I used to follow him until his takes reached critical idiocy.

studentlifeproblems

cunt-force-therapy

20 + 40 + 7 + 8

60 + 7 + 8

60 + 7 + 7 + 1 = 60 + 14 + 1

70 + 4 + 1 = 75

yanzinator

27 - 2 = 25, 48 + 2 = 50

25 + 50 = 75

david-goldrock

20 + 40 + 7 + 8

20 + 40 + 15

20 + 40 + 10 + 5

standardfareliferotica

27+48

20 / 7 40 / 8

20 / 5 / 2 40 / 5 / 3

20 / 40 / 15

smegorl

(20+40)+(8+7)

franavu

27+3 = 30, 48-3=45, 30+45=75

h4ganah

penrosesun

Sometimes I feel kind of crazy when I think of things like this. Like. People will confidently claim that antisemitism is over because, idk, some USAmerican universities got rid of their anti-Jewish quotas in the 60s, and Russia stopped categorically denying Jews freedom of movement in the 80s. Meanwhile there are still Spanish religious holidays where people publicly chant “kill the Jews”, and meanwhile Germany still won’t remove their statues of Jews fellating pigs, and meanwhile Polish people are carrying around little talismans of “Jews with coins” that you’re supposed to turn upside down on Saturday for good luck, and if you dare to point out that hey, wtf, all of that is like, unbelievably racist??? You get told that oh no, don’t be silly, these are all just innocent cultural practices, they have nothing to do with antisemitism, stop being such a spoil-sport about it. Like idk! Idk! I just feel like maybe it’s unreasonable to complain that Jews won’t shut up about antisemitism, when citizens of a EU member state are still celebrating a quirky little religious holiday where they publicly chant “kill the Jews”!

franavu

Yeah, but you're hitting the nail on the head @penrosesun, the culture is antisemitism. And unless these countries deal with the fact that it's part of their culture, nothing is going to change.