Duggar, Bates and All Things Fundie

I am a religion major who focuses on the Quiverful Movement and Fundies in the United States.  The Duggars are my passion (and a bit of an obsession)

[thefundiemuseum]

Timothy Rodrigues Admits Abuse

Tw: child abuse, physical abuse.

Y'all. Y'ALL. I cannot believe this is real except that I have seen the post with my own eyeballs.

TL;DR, Timothy recounts growing up in a physically abusive household and admits that he has gone on to abuse Heidi. He is adamant that he has never laid hands on Charlie.

Heidi is giving him a second chance.

I am both shocked by just about everything here, except for the revelation that David Rodrigues is a piece of shit. I am not surprised by that at all.

Hope Coverett offers a different perspective in the comments, though.

I just... wow. I don't know where to begin.

[fundie-fanatic]

🎶🎵What the fuck what the fuck🎵🎶

[spurgie-cousin]

Regarding your answer about the pink shirts. It’s insane to me that the Bates are fundie lite. If anyone would behave only 50% like them here in Germany, people would call them more than crazy. But anyways can you explain why they are fundielite and give an example of not lite fundies? Thanks!

"Fundie lite" doesn't mean they're not still super conservative or that they share the beliefs of mainstream Christianity, it is just used to differentiate between (what I consider) the true blue religious fundamentalism and people who only incorporate parts of Christian fundamentalism into their religious practice.

I could do a whole point-by-point comparison (and probably have before knowing me) but the main difference to me is that serious fundamentalists have a black and white understanding of good and evil with very little room for compromise, whereas fundie lites pick and choose aspects of fundamentalism as it suits them and reject the parts they don't want to follow. I consider the 1st generation of Duggars and Bates true Christian fundamentalists, for example, whereas 90% of their kids I'd consider fundie lite.

Examples I can think of:

The Duggar and Bates parents' had a commitment to keeping their families separate from secular society at every opportunity (homeschool, censored media, only fraternizing with other kids and family conventions and other church-sanctioned events). Most of the kids haven't maintained that hard line (Jill D allowing her kids to go to public school, the 2nd gen Bates allowing their kids to watch and listen to secular media, etc).

Michelle and Kelly Jo are strict gender-specific dress code adherents bc they find it integral to being a good Christian, but most of their female children have (fortunately) decided for themselves to not carry that on bc it doesn't serve them.

Both the Bates and Duggar families were strict "leave it up to god" people as far as having kids, another decision they made because they thought it had moral implications. And again, we've seen evidence of family planning with the 2nd gen kids who decided that they didn't believe you needed to have a baby at every opportunity to be a good Christian.

Another example I always use when I'm feeling less long-winded is the Amish vs Mennonites because people often lump them into the same category but they're really very different: The Amish have a very black and white view of what is and is not accepted to participate in their religion and there isn't a lot of room for compromise. Mennonites on the other hand can be just as strict as the Amish in some areas, but completely progressive in others, and that varies from family to family so there's a lot of grey area in that religion.

Anyway I hope that makes sense this is one of those areas where I can start talking for forever and forget to make my point lol.

[dr-julianbashir]

I’m working at a Bible camp this summer and I do not know how to explain that “Roe vs Wade being overturned is awesome because it means there will be more babies for us to adopt/foster/bring to Christ” is not the moral argument they think it is.

[dr-julianbashir]

Yeah, we can prove that we love people by taking children away from their mothers. Let’s not discuss how we could help the mothers by providing a living wage, free healthcare, access to contraceptives and sex education, and getting rid of guns. God forbid we let a woman have control over her body and have sex without punishing her.

[dr-julianbashir]

I’m working at a Bible camp this summer and I do not know how to explain that “Roe vs Wade being overturned is awesome because it means there will be more babies for us to adopt/foster/bring to Christ” is not the moral argument they think it is.

[fundie-fanatic]

9 votes and 16 comments so far on Reddit

Come give me advice on Reddit because I have made a massive mistake

[thegaymertrainer]

[fundie-fanatic]

Who edited this??? It’s so choppy, it’s like neither of them could string together a full sentence and they had to edit it together.

[weaver-z]

I heard this metaphor growing up, and in my case, it backfired supremely, because I went out into my neighbor's backyard where a rose bush was growing, and the one I tested had like 30 petals (it was yellow, but definitely a rose of some kind), and as a very logical lass, I came to the conclusion that you could have premarital sex AT LEAST ten times before your future husband would even notice something was up. Moral of the story? Test your metaphors on the weirdest and most neurodivergent child you know before writing your weird religious propaganda.

[shinyasahalo]

No matter your sexual orientation, you do not owe sex to anyone.

You do not have to have sex to be "normal."

You do not have to have a romantic relationship or marriage to be "normal."

[heresylog]

If you ever find yourself in public with an obnoxious Christian that is trying to pray for an audience, just hit ‘em with the Matthew 6:5 quote:

And when you pray, you should not be like the hypocrites, who love standing in the synagogues and at the corners of the streets to pray, so that they may be seen by men.

[heresylog]

Wasn’t an accident 🫡

[historicaltimes]

Cleaning women washing a crucifix, 1938

via reddit

[thewolfbroughtindoors]

Me, thinking they’re hosing an emaciated child down the stairs: oh jesus…

Me, realizing it is in fact our lord and savior on the cross: oh, Jesus…

[jocollins]

i should not be laughing about that note

[wtffundiefamilies]

[blessedladyplexus]

Carlin Stewart IG Stories

[fundie-fanatic]

I know it’s just the way her hair falls in front of her mouth, and along her jaw, but for a good minute I thought Carlin was licking the top of Zade’s head 😂😂

[blessedladyplexus]

Carlin Stewart IG Stories

[fundiebabynamebible]

A perfect wedding gift for a fundie couple. They can make love in the bedroom with Jesus watching over them.

[powerburial]

Have you ever actually read the Bible? No, God did not "dare" anyone to kill a baby nor did he command such a thing. People will fabricate anything to criticize the Bible.

he said "rip that baby up" in a game show host voice, very distasteful

[tiktoksthataregood-ish]