It is, actually. You guys are constantly trying to decide what's best for El without actually paying attention to El. She has no problems saying when she's uncomfortable. If she didn't like that kiss, she would have said so. It's not ableism to say that maybe Mike could have explained without kissing her (although El learns best through demonstration and he was having trouble articulating his words). It is ableism to try to dictate what El should or shouldn't be comfortable with despite what El herself has repeatedly said she's wanted.
The concern you guys have for El does not come from a place of wanting what's best for her. You are forcing your incorrect assumptions onto her despite what her canon behavior is telling you. That is absolutely ableism and infantilizing.
Additionally, kindly tag posts like these Anti Mileven. It's fandom courtesy especially on Tumblr.
I never said El couldnāt express discomfort or didnāt want affection. My point is that cognitive ability and social/emotional development arenāt the same thing, and El had JUST come out of extreme isolation and trauma. That creates a huge gap in experience and understanding, especially in something as complicated as romantic relationships.
Saying she might not have been ready for a relationship that quickly isnāt me trying to deny her agency or dictating what sheās allowed to want. Iām acknowledging context and pacing. A person can want something and still not fully understand the situation theyāre in yet, especially when theyāve had no normal social development and the only person guiding them is also a kid figuring things out.
Someone can have agency and be vulnerable at the same time. Someone can genuinely want something, and still be in a situation where they donāt fully understand the social or emotional implications yet
Moreover, āshe didnāt objectā is a very slippery slope, trust can change the context and reaction under discomfort massively, Mike was, at the time, the only person she trusted and her only source of social information. Plus, she didnāt know what a kiss was, of course she wouldnāt seem uncomfortable with something she doesnāt understand the emotional weight of
Iām not saying Mike was malicious or that El is helpless. Iām saying the situation had a big imbalance and could have gone terribly, which is part of why itās worth discussing.
And lastly, my bad?? I donāt typically use tumblr assuming more than two people are going to come across my post, I just rapid post whatever Iām thinking about, Iāll add the tag to this one and the last