Currently Brainrotting

My mind is melting at how much audacity Lily has.

[get-a-grip-lily]

Random thought that occurred to me about Lily:

One thing I realized last night was that as horrifying and disgusting as Lily's Stockholm fanfics were, I feel like the fact that NintendoGal was the co-writer was probably the only thing that kept Lily from making them even worse, at least in the beginning.

I say this because Lily obviously received backlash for the fics because of how she portrayed abusive people who are sexual deviants. And only then did she start rewriting the framing to make the readers sympathize with the abusers, which didn't fix the issue. Technically, that just made it even more deplorable. But before Lily had received that backlash, NintendoGal was the one who had voiced her concerns during the writing process. Including with the scene(s) that were so unbearable for her that Lily scrapped those ideas.

And while I don't think any of the original drafts of those deleted scenes have ever been shown to the public, I can only imagine how bad they must've been when the fics were already so horrible as is. I do also sometimes wonder what Lily was planning when she mentioned wanting to rewrite the series, before discontinuing it and pretending she never made it at all. I would bet money on the fact that if she didn't have to worry about her critics, she absolutely would've rewritten the series and probably also made even more degenerate shit than the vomit-inducing crap she already had made.

I'm sure she might secretly get pissed when people criticize those fics, since she is a sore loser that is incapable of taking criticism. But since she has to pretend she didn't make it, she can't voice that offense at the way people regard the series. And you know what, Lily? I hope you feel angry. Because that anger pales in comparison to the sheer disgust and horror that anyone who's read those fics feels.

[get-a-grip-lily]

Question about Lily's brother

I know that Lily has previously accused Cameron of abusing and molester her when she was a child, much like what Courtney has accused him of. Is there any archived evidence of Lily making that claim? I know she apparently said that he was a transphobe on an old stream, but I don't know where that clip is.

[get-a-grip-lily]

Apparently, Lily has been getting some asks lately (that TOTALLY weren't just sent by her) about why everyone believes Courtney about the abuse from Lily in spite of all the shit that Courtney is guilty of. I wanted to unpack that a little bit, so buckle up.

First, I want to clarify that I do not defend Courtney in anything she's done, and I also admit that I'm not 100% caught up on drama or allegations against her. But what I can say is that the reason why more people feel pity at her spiral downwards since joining the lily critical community is because she's had to battle off the stupid puppets of Lily's that were brainwashed into harassing Courtney, just as everyone else who has opposed Lily in any way has dealt with.

And it's clear that Courtney is arguably one of the ones who's suffered the most twisted abuse, especially when she didn't have any proper support system that was willing to back her up when she was a kid. And while I genuinely do believe that Lily has also been abused by Cameron (and probably also a teacher or something), her accusations against Country are much more see-through.

Lily's accusations against people who have 'abused' her are usually very vague, and the few details she gives change more frequently than I change my clothes. She's been proven to lie on multiple occasions about multiple things of varying levels of seriousness, and she also has every incentive to lie because admitting fault for ANYTHING she has been accused of would make her already small audience turn on her. And if there's one truth in Lily, it's that she's nothing without her audience. No one to abuse. No one to use. No one to worship her to lift up her self-esteem. She's truly nothing if her fans turn on her.

And in contrast, Courtney's accusations against Lily are much more specific and consistent (to my knowledge). One mild example of this that I can think of is the tumblr post that she made about how Lily has always had an obsession with Gardevoir and how Lily was banned from the library for printing porn of the character. That story had specific details, and it aligns with Lily's noticeable fixation on Gardevoir, as it has followed her from the beginning of her presence on the internet.

But if you take Lily's accusations against Lizzy as an example, she never really offered exact specifics on how Lizzy 'abused' or 'raped' her. She simply said the abuse was done in a lot of small ways, using the metaphor of death by a thousand cuts. She also failed to bring forward any evidence of any abuse coming from Lizzy, while Lizzy was able to provide quite a bit more proof (such as the sexual 'game' on one of Lily's old NSFW blogs).

So while I do not condone or agree with Courtney using any of her trauma as justification for treating other people like shit, she doesn't have a documented history of fetishizing/glorifying/sympathizing CSA/incest/rape/domestic abuse through her fanfics, pokemon comics, and so on.

Frankly, Lily, Courtney, and Cameron are about as well-off as one would expect with the horrific background they have and the environment they grew up in.

[get-a-grip-lily]

Lily, just because you supposedly have a degree in psychology doesn't inherently make you a qualified expert on mental illness. As far as I can recall, Lily has never been diagnosed with anything aside from PMDD when she was 16, only to later claim that it was a misdiagnosis. Yet she still acts like she has any authority in the autism community. And while I can't say that I'm an expert on either autism or BPD, I will say that any responsible and good-natured person with a degree in psychology would be comfortable doing things like admitting when they're wrong about something. Yet I feel like the amount of times that she has done that could probably be counted on one hand.

And the reason for this is because A), Lily most likely doesn't actually have a degree in psychology and B), she's not a good-natured person in the slightest.

[get-a-grip-lily]

I'm not sure if this is about me, but I feel like this is so hilarious regardless.

As per usual, Lily evidently didn't read what I said. I wasn't criticizing her for 'not approving' of an anon supposedly reaching out to her for her thoughts in incest.

What I was criticizing her for was the fact that she has a history of allegedly molesting her sister and defending incest with arguments like moral relativity. As suspect as Courtney has been, she at least hasn't defended the right to have incest relationships and write multiple fanfics of siblings (who are also usually only sisters) being too close to be considered normal.

Lily is the one who has a long, documented history of allegedly writing/glorifying/defending things like incest and pedophilic relationships like in her stockholm series. Even Assanna (who used to be Ascentia) has been used as a mouth-piece that has said rape/CSA apologia in the original stockholm series.

[get-a-grip-lily]

Why would someone need to tell you that they were in a completely 'healthy' incest relationship in order to gain your validation, Lily? Maybe because you're sexually aroused by incest? Also, you bitch and moan that people don't stop talking about the allegations against you, yet you continue to do stupid things like pretending that people go to you for advice about incest?

[get-a-grip-lily]

While I'm not defending Courtney for saying something as vile as this, I find it a bit ironic of Lily to say this when she certainly doesn't act like how a victim of Courtney would. Especially considering the fact that Lily has derived joy from her fans harassing and/or doxxing people in spite of being on the receiving of it herself.

And I also feel the need to bring up the fact that Lily has previously alleged that Cameron has molested her when they were kids (which is one of the few things she has said that I actually believe), yet she's trying to butter up to him now. It'd be one thing if she were doing it as a survival strategy to survive living with him when they were in the same house. Stockholm syndrome, if you will. But the fact that she's suddenly cozying up to him doesn't help her already shite credibility.

[get-a-grip-lily]

Damn. Lily did not waste any time in blocking me again lol

[that-one-kiddo-in-the-back]

Imma about to make "Lily Orchard blocked me on Tumblr" pins

[get-a-grip-lily]

I support this!!!

[get-a-grip-lily]

Damn. Lily did not waste any time in blocking me again lol

[that-one-kiddo-in-the-back]

Abuse isn't boring!

I'm sorry that the abuse you put your sister, girlfriend, and friends through was boring to you, but that doesn't mean it was boring for them.

I'm gonna use my own abuse as an example, but when I was 16, I was in a relationship with a 34 year old man and the abuse he put me through was fucking exhausting and a complete nightmare. It wasn’t boring. It was painful, humiliating, exhausting, and made me feel trapped.

Abuse isn't one type of way, and it really says something about Lily that she thinks abuse is boring with the same type of argument over and over.

[get-a-grip-lily]

It's things like this that make me believe that the accusations against Lily are true, since this is how she calls abuse. While I do also believe that she was also abused by her brother Cameron (whom she's now buttering up) and a teacher or other kind of authority figure, she has no empathy for others in that position. She's claimed to be a manipulative liar in the past, and she also is extremely abusive (in more ways than one) to people she 'loves' and hates.

As a fellow victim of molestation and incest by one of my older brothers, it was NOT 'boring'. It was scarring, confusing, and left me mentally fucked in the head ever since then. And while I feel empathetic of what Lily endured at Cameron's hands, I also don't think that she has the right to turn into an abuser. Part of me wants to give her the benefit of the doubt and believe that maybe she just abuses people so she doesn't get abused again, but I can't truly accept that when she has shown at least some level of enjoyment in disturbing things such as SA, zoophilia, torture, etc.

[cdsillyposting]

So do you think Lily is a contrarian for rage clicks or she genuinely can't fathom people liking things that she doesn't like because her ego won't allow it?

I don't think she rage baits intentionally MOST of the time

She thinks she is smarter than she is, simple as really l

[get-a-grip-lily]

I personally think that when she is being a contrarian, she uses a pseudo-intellectual attitude that screams, 'I'm better than most people because I don't like this very well-loved thing'.

But I also think that sometimes, she is also just really bad at media analysis, and she just can't admit that some of her takes are really stupid because she can't accept being wrong.

Plus, I also feel like she is really bad at keeping her claims and statements straight. Not just with her accusations, but also with her media takes. Proof of that is that she called Chaggie 'sex shy' in one video, and then mocked other people for calling them 'unseasoned yuri', and she probably forgot she did the same thing with slightly different words.

[get-a-grip-lily]

To follow up on my previous post about Courtney needing to take time off social media, I found a post from her during the whole fiasco in May literally saying the SAME THING I did. (I was under a rock during the whole May fiasco, so I'm sure this was already screenshotted and picked apart. I'm just adding my own two cents.)

She posted three tweets on May 25th within a few hours of each other. Which is as follows:

The "I need to disengage" post last all of about 2 HOURS.

[get-a-grip-lily]

Ya know, I used to be rather sympathetic of Courtney. If anything, I looked up to her for being brave enough to tell her story about her trauma with Lily (as well as the rest of her family), especially as a fellow victim of COCSA and incest. I cannot imagine how hard it is for her to speak up against someone who has brainwashed many people into harassing her, even though there is a lot of proof that can validate the claims against Lily.

But I do think that Courtney also isn't in the best state of mind to be on the internet. And much like Lily, Courtney has a terrible tendency to double down on takes/beliefs/claims/etc.

Even with her BPD and various other issues, that doesn't excuse her actions. And if anything, it reinforces the idea that she should seriously consider taking time away from social media to focus on recovering, getting to a better state of mind, and distancing herself from getting involved in arguing with Lily and her followers.

Like I said, I am a victim of COCSA and incest myself. And even though my experiences are vastly different and nowhere near as terrible as the horrific things Courtney endured, it still negatively affected me. And I am unfortunately still in contact with my abuser, as my parents swept the abuse under the rug and didn't seem to realize the full gravity of his abuse towards me until I had already become an adult. So I am forced to still interact with him, and it's incredibly damaging.

But Courtney no longer has to live under the same roof as Lily. Courtney is able to simply block Lily on everything, along with any of her followers who come to attack her on Lily's behalf. Cutting the abuser off and not engaging with said abuser is essential to healing, especially in Courtney's situation.

[get-a-grip-lily]

It is so poetic for Lily to accuse Rebecca Sugar of being racist in her show, and claiming Rebecca used her status as LGBT to ‘sling racism unopposed’. Especially since Lily has no problem saying incredibly racist things about Japanese people to her impressionable audience.

It goes without saying that doing this is incredibly terrible to do, since she always tries to convince her fans that she is always right about absolutely everything and anything. She’s fine potentially turning at least SOME of her fans into being racist towards Japanese people for writing ‘soft-core porn of young girls being raped by relatable heroes’, while also simultaneously lying about writing multiple MLP fanfics about the very same premise and purposefully making the rapists the heroes or sympathetic.

While I am not debating that there is a lot of media from Japan that are as she described, she ignores nuance and insists that ALL of the media from Japan is like that.

As you said when you encouraged Josh to groom Ink Rose, let he who is without sin cast the first stone, Lily.

[cdsillyposting]

Why do you think Sai is fine with saying blackGryph0ns wife isn't being abused but Mikalia is??

Well, now, that's, a question

The reason, is cause, whenever someone says anything to Mikalia its CD-Call responding?

"Hey are you being abused?"

*Known Abuser Bursts into the converstion* "STOP TALKING TO HER IM NOT ABUSING HER!!!"

[thetepes]

That and there's recordings of Lily abusing Mikay and there's no recordings of BG abusing Claire.

That might have something to do with it.

[get-a-grip-lily]

Lily has a very extensive history of disrespecting, doxxing, abusing, etc. anyone who dares have the courage to say one wrong thing to and/or about her. BG, to my knowledge at least, has always been respectful to his wife and people online for the most part.

Even though his marriage is a bit questionable to me, he and his wife at the very least seem happy together. Meanwhile Lily is an unbearable bitch to the point that her current wife is apparently not even living with her anymore.

I personally would be able to believe BG is abusive or a groomer if there was actual EVIDENCE of it. But there really isn’t any to my knowledge. But with Lily, evidence of her toxic behavior goes back YEARS with multiple victims of multiple magnitudes.

[oblivionbladetd]

Lily in a nutshell

Yes.

[confused-rat]

There’s gotta be a point where you stop and realize that calling every single person you disagree with a Nazi is devaluing the word.

Comparing a shitty fandom (in your opinion) to fucking Nazis—people who murdered millions and denied people personhood because of made-up racial superiority is insane actually. Lily Orchard is fucking stupid at best, and a Holocaust denier at worst, because how can you equate the actual MISERY and DEVASTATION caused by REAL FUCKING NAZIS to Steven Universe fans criticizing a video review.

Get off your high horse Lily, you will never be victimized the way people were back then. Comparing your struggles to those of victims of the Holocaust is probably the stupidest fucking thing you’ve done this year, and it’s only February.