There's very little that irritates me more then when people try and make Mary the mom of the Marvel family especially when they try to remove her importance or rule in the family in favor of making Freddy the most important person in Billy's life.
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There's very little that irritates me more then when people try and make Mary the mom of the Marvel family especially when they try to remove her importance or rule in the family in favor of making Freddy the most important person in Billy's life.
People who enjoy any Billy adoption au's really just need to learn more about Mary Marvel because being illegally adopted is kind of her whole thing.
For everyone who subscribes to the 'Billy being friends with other heroes villains and magic users' you are wrong. Billy is only friendly with some of his own villains and Harley and very rarely interacts with other magic users.
Who your really looking for is Mary 'oh there's an apocalypse let me just find John and the nearest merry band of friendly supervillains and questionable heroes' Bromfield.
Oh no, how dare Riordan take guys with so many interpretations and faces that a concrete characterization of them is next to impossible and choose to present them in a way that works best for his own story. Such a heinous crime.
The way most of the Greek gods are depicted in Percy Jackson are really only accurate to their modern day pop culture representation. You can hide behind the multiple stories with no real canon all you want but that doesn't change the fact most of the major gods have a at least a few consistent characteristics with Riordan ignoring most of them as well as ignoring symbolic and cultural factors of said stories.
But here's the thing, as annoying as I find it when PJO fans pretend Riordan's version of the gods is accurate, I don't actually care that they're not. My issue is him randomly dragging character's to raise up other characters often to the harm of his own stories followed by fans defending him claiming that's just how it is in Greek myth (it's not, most of the stories are very symbolic and a big part of stories where the gods punish people, the gods are supposed to be in the right due to said people disrespecting gods in a major way, something highly frowned upon in every religion, not to mention that as much as we know about Greek religion, there's far more that we don't).
Making most of the big figures on the side we as the readers are supposed to be rooting for be just the worst of the worst does not help your story.
I think what angers me most about Rick Riordan's portrayal of the gods is less that their personalities don’t at all match the myths, it's that he goes so far out of his way to drag the ones he clearly doesn’t like to prop up his favorites. Like are you really trying to tell me that Apollo of all the gods is the happy go lucky one this has it the worst on Olympus and is the most abused by Zeus. Apollo. Or that Poseidon is the cool laid back guy whose only flaw is not being there for Percy and could clearly easily destroy Zeus he just chooses not to. Or Athena and Hermes. Athena is far from my favorite goddess but there is no way those two wouldn’t be the most helpful towards demigods regardless of the parentage but especially towards their own descendants and chosen heroes. Like there are ways to make Apollo and Poseidon likable without completely changing most of their personalities from what's shown in myths and insulting and dragging others gods/goddesses.
I need a ASOUE crossover with PJO just so Apollo can meet Sunny and immediately get stolen cattle flashbacks.
Finally tried watching the live action PJO on Disney and honestly shouldn’t have done so right after getting back into a Series of Unfortunate Events because all it did was really highlight asoue as the golden example of adopting children’s books into a live action series. I mean everything from the costumes, the sets, and even the acting is made to match the tone and themes of the books. It was a series that truly understood the books and why those who read them liked them. Not to mention a lot of people who watched the show didn’t even read the books and it didn’t matter because asoue was a good show.
Don't get me wrong there is quite a bit about the Percy Jackson books that could due to be changed (WWII, wtf rick) but none of the changes the show made added anything to the story and at some points straight up replaced scenes that would have just been way better if they stuck to how they were in the book.
I feel like a major missed opportunity when it comes to ‘all gods are real’ stories or the sort is the idea of import gods/goddess (and i don’t mean instances like the Romans going Odin, Lugus (did i spell that right?), anubis, ect. Are all actually just Hernes which could be an interesting story in and of itself) like Aphrodite. Like, I know some people get really worked up when you point out that Aphrodite came from Ishtar/Inanna but the truth of the matter is that it did happen.
Imagine a story where Aphrodite has to give up a part of herself to remain prominent, telling herself it's worth it to remain one of the most important goddesses, one of the few who nearly everyone worships, something that is usually reserved for people like Zeus only for years later for one of the others like Hermes or something to end up being the most referenced thousands of years from now (I don’t know who is the most referenced but i feel like in my own experience i come across references to him, cupid and Hercules the most which once again could be an interesting story in an off its self). Or an Aphrodite who was okay with being separated from those parts of herself because she knows they will always return in one form or another but the likes of Hera or some other are always looking towards her with caution knowing who she once was.
I don't remember what the work was called and I can't find it again, but I remember a story where the di Angelo's leave the hotel with Percy and when they're trying to figure out how to get to LA Nico just offered up his mythomagic cards to Hermes and he just shows up and accepts it.
The rest of the chapter is just the three of them sitting in the back of a mail truck going a thousand miles an hour while Percy tries to explain to Nico demigod life isn't as fun as it seems while also trying not to piss off Hermes. And I demand this concept be used more often.
Anyways the idea of Nico offering Hermes Mythomagic cards in exchange for a ride will now always be canon to me.
I've seen the idea of Hermes looking after the di Angelo's in the lotus hotel due to an agreement with Hades passes around a few times since the episode and I find that idea so entertaining. Even more so the au where they leave the Hotel with Percy.
All I can imagine is no one finding out their true parentage but assuming it's Hermes and that these two are just his favorites so they get to camp and all the kids but especially the Hermes kids are just so jealous. Or Lukes freaking reaction.
Then after a while of it being assumed who their godly parent is someone mentioned it to or in front of the di Angelo's and their just like ' that not our dad, that's just our babysitter.'
That's when all of camp learned that not only was their real dad somewhat present during their childhood enough for them to know what he looks like as well as some of his personality but also hired an Olympian as their babysiterr.
The idea is way to funny for me.
Been rereading Percy Jackson and came to the conclusion that I think its stupid for Luke to be or ever have been Hermes favorite child.
Au where Theo Adam tries to kill Mary during the archeological dig but she gets the powers of Shazam (kind of getting them in the same way she did in dc bombshells). Something could still happen that causes her to lose a chunk of her memory and not quite know the faces of her parents and brother nor fully remembering she had powers and still being hidden from Shazam who later chooses Billy as his Champion and successor.
One of my favorite fandom depictions of Fawcett was when they treated the city like Night Vale. IDK, I could always just imagine the city having that same vibe paired with over the top characters and settings as ASOUE (the visual depiction of it all).
Combine this with other heroes like Batman visiting Fawcett to try and figure out more about Captain Marvel and his family/team only for his brain to short circuit mintues after arriving from all the chaos and impossibility of everything.
Billy could have his own podcast or Radio show that's super popular even outside the city with him reporting on everything. He has an "odd things that happened this week" segment but it's all like normal stuff for everyone else but completely weird for citizens of Fawcett. The city could have a feud with both Gotham and/or Metropolis citizens.
The entire city could know about the Marvel Family identities but just delete and deny any evidence acting confused or refuse to acknowledge it whenever asked.
I love the idea of the entire magic community knowing Billy and his siblings are children (well besides Mary in current continuity) but instead of telling anyone they help them mess with the rest of the super hero community.
Like John and Billy will never interact only to mention John being at the rock of eternity one time but the moment any JL member asks about it the two of them will start spewing the absolutely craziest stories imaginable that are too confusing for anyone to question. The Justice League thinks they're either friends or hate each other when in reality neither really cares about the other they just both like messing with the JL.
Zatanna will make comments about being really good friends with Mary and training/learning magic with her leaving the JL to assume it was when they were both younger.
The Spectre and Phantom Stranger will mention them being connected to a team of ancient super powerful individuals. One day one of the GLs or Superman spots the two of them, Zatanna and Fate having breakfast with Captain Marvel and Mary on the moon.
They'll ask Doctor Fate about it and he'll just be like, "Oh yeah, I knew them before they joined the JL. Both our parents were archeologists. Their mentor was a Lord of Order. One of their dead brothers is connected to the lords of chaos." Or he'll just stare at them like their dumb and vanish.
This has also caused many of them to be confused about the magic community in general.
The real tipping point though is when the guardians overhear earths GLs discussing a recent mission and mention a member of the Marvel Family only for Ganthet to be like "oh Shazam and his kids, yeah I know them. I visit the rock of eternity all the time. What trouble did they get into now."
Batman hates it, especially since Freddy figured out his identity nearly instantly but all Bruce can find about them is confusing chaos. Like none of the magic community directly lies but are also very misleading with the truth and only correct them in ways that would lead to more confusion and misunderstandings.
Divine twitch chat au but its Mary and she hears the voices of all her past godly sponsors (she's had a lot, the most well known one with Solomon and Zeus and all them, her black mary ones (I'm pretty sure she drew her powers from the Egyptian gods but it's been a while and I like to pretend that event doesn't exist, whoever it was when Darkseid gave her back her powers, I think it was someone different, IDK I only read the black mary parts once), the original goddesses, and I'm pretty sure there was one where she got her powers from biblical female figures in one elseworld but I could be misremembering that one.
Like she only has the powers of one of those groups but she hears all their voices and none of the members of the Marvel family know why until the wizard is just like 'Yeah, they were who you got your powers from in different timelines. Don't worry about it.'
So I made this post a while back and decided to come back to it and compile a list just so people understand the amount she's had.
There's the most well known: Solomon, Hercules, Atlas, Zeus, Mercury
Golden Age: Now these one's have been altered/adjusted quite a bit. Selene, Hippolyta, Ariadne, Zephyrus, Aurora, Minerva.
Ariadne was recently changed to Artemis and I think at one point Aphrodite was thrown into the mix (according to a wiki anyways, I don't remember reading that)
Black Mary where she gains the powers of Black Adam: Shu, Horus, Amon, Zehuti, Aten, Mehem
(I also thought she was like possessed or something by one of Darkseids servants when she served him but again, I only read that storyline once and it was so contradictory to any other characterization of her I often chose to just ignore all of it in favor of rereading golden age or power of shazam type comics.)
Bombshells where its female biblical figures: Shiphrah, Huldah, Abigail, Zipporah, Asenath, Miriam
Marvel Family Hogwarts Headcanons
So I decided to write an actual au/hc type list for how I would want a Shazam and Harry Potter Crossover to go at request from a friend
1. The Wizard doesn't like Dumbledore nor the wizarding world in general
The only reason why the headmaster got a chance to speak with Billy and his siblings is because John owed Dumbledore and upon finding out about Voldemort they wanted to help
Billy, Mary, Freddy, and Kit are the ones who go
2. When they first meet Voldemort they don't actually believe he's the real dark lord everyone had been telling them about because to them he was so weak
Because of this they spend nearly the whole time mocking him and treating him like some common street crook
Voldemort was kind of (absolutely) terrified when the killing curse didn't work on them
3. They are known as the Champions of Magic apprentices being capable of using minor spells and weakened versions of their Shazam powers outside of their Shazam forms
Mary is the most skilled at using magic in her regular form
Billy is the only one who majorly struggles with this bc Mary and Freddy have both shifted so they look like themselves when they change (in the Power of shazam they could change clothes and I'm keeping that)
3. The four of them are technically considered muggles though with the whole powers tied to the wizard and rock of eternity they can do nearly any kind of magic (except for kit but his power set is different then the other three)
4. There are also various types of magic (wizard bloodline magic, divine magic, muggle magic) with the wizarding world being one of the lowest ranking
5. The ministry of magic has done so much to cover this up over the years combined with a lot of magic super heroes being more on the down low, very few in the modern wizarding world are aware of how low ranking they are on the power scale and will often bully muggle born/raised students who try to claim otherwise
6. The four of them get permission (also can be read as forced the staff to let them) to form a combat club ran by them in their hero forms where they practice using magic in real world scenarios
Despite only being a club, it's more intense then even seventh year DADA because to the Marvel family real world scenarios include fighting gods, supervillains, and literal demons
7. They often invite other magic users or members of the super hero community as guest for the club with wonder woman and Zatanna being the most recurring
As awe struck they were when wonder woman showed up to teach them combat, nearly everyone lost their minds when Mary once convinced Doctor Fate to stop by and they realized just how overpowered he was, being capable of making even the marvel family seem weak
8. Instead of being real students, their labled as guest students whoch allowed for Mary to be an extra participant in the tri wizard tournament with Mary being able to use all her powers due to looking the same as Mary Marvel
Needless to say Cedric didn't die this time around
9. The marvel family or other magic super heroes like Zatanna are a really big deal to muggle born/raised wizards
10. They're not super close friends with Harry (idk I feel like always making harry and trio the center of fics like this can take away from them even if it does make sense with him being the main character, I just want to read something different with a crossover)
I was talking to someone who claimed Harry Potter could defeat both Captain Marvel and/or Dr. Fate with just a few spells and genuinely believed it. Stating only superman would cause a real issue.
Harry Potter could have the entire wizarding community launching their most powerful/dangerous spells at him and Dr.Fate would still destroyed them all no difficulty.