i genuinely think this is one of my favorite clips ever.
ghost's stupid nothing burger equation, toast crashing into an invisible wall, ghost NOT reacting to it, and toast's one second cut off scream fucking KILLS ME.
Can I be objectively negative? Like not to insult anyone’s efforts and targeted at no individuals just let me be negative about something outdated and silly and just doesn’t take itself as seriously as I take myself. Let me bitch about a nonissue.
I am going through. All the pie stuff. To on my lonesome chronical notable events and organize them out, filler episodes, arcs, character information. And this means going through the same playlist of videos I’ve saved like twenty hundred times. Forgetting to cite videos and timestamps and going all the way back though to find a one off reference to Johnny Toast’s dad that shows Toasts mother (of the British family) married his father (a redneck not part of a royal family) which is very relevant when getting into all the prequel videos from childhood and schooling days-
Why do I have to do that? Because god this wiki fucking sucks.
Example: It was implied Johnny Toast accidentally killed his wife with British Disco.
WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT WORD MEANS
IT WAS A STATED FACT WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT WORD MEANS.
Implied would IMPLY there is minimal evidence and a counter argument to be had WHICH THERE IS NOT
British disco killed Johnny Toast’s first wife which brought him back onto the pie team, these are our EARLY DAY BASICS and then THEN
HIS WIFE’S WIKI: This is Johnny Toast's late wife. She married Johnny and died from Johnny's British Disco in 1976, when Johnny was 20. This led to Johnny's drinking problem. She is a minor character in Toast's Beginning. Although not mentioned by name, the character of Johnny Toast's late wife is acknowledged by Jordan and the crew in many videos. The fanon name for her is Mary, with her fanon maiden name being Petrova, though this is unconfirmed by VT.
THAT. THAT IS HOW YOU WRITE A WIKI. THIS IS THE MOST BASIC THING YOU CAN DO BUT THE BAR IS SO LOW I CAN PRAISE BARE MINIMUM. YOU STATE FANON AGAINST CANON, YOU PROVIDE INFORMATION AND CONTEXT, AND YOU DO NOT SUBSTITUTE IMPLICATION AS A STAND IN WORD FOR FACT. WHY ISNT BRITISH DISCOS WIKI FOLLOWING THIS SAME LOGIC. WHY ARE MOST OF THE WIKI PAGES NOT WIKI’ING RIGHT.
Not even mentioning the amount of edits the wiki has had to make for wrongly stating fanon without crediting where it came from and instead noting it along canon information- THE WIKI ALSO NEVER CITES SHIT? LIKE 99% OF THE TIME AND WHEN THEY DO THEY SELDOM DO IT RIGHT
We have hundreds of pie videos alone, which is what I’m breaking down I focus on pie specifically. Pie is the tool used in VT that can explain all the weird shit that happens in every other cast’s lives because pie knows what’s wrong that makes the 1st dimension such a hotspot.
HUNDREDS OF VIDEOS ranging close to in or over TWENTY MINUTES IN LENGTH EACH. You can not just provide one video link ESPECIALLY WHEN DISCUSSING INFORMATION SPANNING MULTIPLE VIDEOS without occasional TIMESTAMPS.
If you were just- I don’t know- going through the whole plot sure. But if an especially critical point comes up do not just mention it TIME STAMP IT. ESPECIALLY WHEN THE WIKI HAS A REPUTATION FOR BEING WRONG LET THE READER CHECK YOUR SOURCE.
This is such a nonissue this is only affecting like me and me alone because I’m the masochist who tried to put the term canon compliant and pie together BUT IT BOTHERS ME I know it’s just a fun wiki for a fun nonsensical world with nonsensical lore BUT IM TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS SOLID GROUND AND I NEED A SOURCE TO LOOK TOWARDS.
THE WIKI ISNT A CREDIBLE SOURCE SO I HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL THE CONTENT ON MY OWN AND REMEMBER TO DO WHAT THE WIKI WONT
i think toast has the illusion of being put-together because he wears an outfit that requires effort to keep looking nice but like. that's pretty much all of the effort he puts into his actual appearance because he spends as little time as possible looking at himself in the mirror. hence the relatively simple hairstyle that's easy to comb into place without needing to look and the fact that he's the only one of his siblings who doesn't trim their brows
Ghost has the kind of autism that he’s completely unable to mask. He’s tried, and failed very badly, many times before, and he knows it doesn’t work.
So instead he does the exact opposite and not only refuses to try hiding the more ‘unsavory’ aspects of himself, he hams em up. Is loud, and aggressive, and blunt to the point of rudeness-intentionally. It’s a lot easier to make people hate you than it is to make them like you, and atleast from his perspective, it’s more fun anyway.
toast dies on a mission with ghost lowkey brutally honestly
gavin uses this as an opportunity to infiltrate PIE and destroy it (by pretending to be toast)
ghost, despite his better knowledge, lets himself fall for it hook line and sinker out of grief and just wanting toast around even if its a bastardisation of him (gavin)
gavin gets Bothersomely attached to living his brothers life and has a conflict of interest where he doesnt rlly Wanna enact his evil destroy pie scheme anymore. also has some moral issues with what hes doing and starts lowkey feeling guilty for stringing ghost along like this (who has deluded himself into genuinely believing gavin is toast)
i alsoo also have this doodle which i didnt post with the last post.
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