"IF YOU DON'T SEE THINGS MY WAY I DON'T CONSIDER YOU A PERSON" 😁😁😁
*Deep sigh*
Like, a part of me is like, okay, I understand the Samifer hate, right? Abuser and victim, blah blah blah, I'm boring and don't know how having fun with fiction works.
But Samstiel? Like...how are Destiel and fricking Sabriel (which are the ships I assume OP is talking about) more valid than Samstiel.
Like, we are aware that Mystery Spot, one of the most traumatising periods of Sam's life, was orchestrated by Gabriel, right?
#pride, yeah right, more like #arrogance and hypocrisy
Also, "ts cannot be real", Destiel and Sabriel aren't 'real' either?? They're fanon as well?
Okay, this is (hopefully) going to be the only anti d*stiel post on my blog but like, I've got to say. I really dislike when people say Cas and Dean are codependent. Like, it just feels sacrilegious to say that when pretty much the whole point of supernatural as a show is how codependent Sam and Dean are.
Both Sam and Dean are insane about each other, of course, but I will say that while people do often miss Sam's insanity, Dean's is really hard to miss. I don't get how you can see just how Dean does codependency and say that this applies to the relationship he has with Cas.
Like, I saw someone once talking about how as the show progresses, other characters would possibly describe Cas and Dean as "psychotically, irrationally, erotically codependent" or how Sam would be concerned by how codependent they are and all I can say is ...No.
My strange musings ahead, be warned.
I don't know why I'm making this post but I guess it just bothers me because its a really weird mischaracterization that seems disrespectful to Dean.
Maybe... now that I'm thinking about it... it might be because this comes across as shippers trying to make it a romantic thing? Now, I'm just speculating based on my perceptions. But I might dislike it also because it seems like they are trying to make it a romantic thing when codependency is not romantic and Sam and Dean's relationship is kinda tragic because of the codependency. Like, people acknowledge that this is not a good thing and it is quite harmful to both parties.
Like, yeah, I'll admit its not always spoken about in serious tones and there are plenty of people who "romanticise" it. Me including. But there is pretty much always this sub-layer of tragedy to it.
So idk, it just feels like making d*stiel worse than their relationship is in actuality to "add depth"? It also feels like taking away from Sam and Dean's relationship, which is so important to Dean. Which again circles back to the being disrespectful to Dean thing. Yeah, I don't know what I'm yapping about here but I just personally don't like it when people say Cas and Dean are codependent.
To me, a good version of d*stiel is one in which there is the acknowledgement of how important Sam is to Dean because in canon, Cas understands this. Sam is such an integral part of Dean's character that it simply is not canonverse Dean if you remove that. But now I'm yapping too much. Feel free to add on if you wish to discuss.
You know, as much as I enjoyed Mark Pellegrino as Hallucifer, I would have loved, absolutely enjoyed it, if Jared Padalecki had done Hallucifer. Not just because I love Jared, but because the story implications for that is massive.
Like, that means Lucifer took on Sam's form to torment him in the cage. And it makes sense too! Sam is his true vessel. When given the choice, why would he choose to appear as his second option?
And can you imagine Sam!!! He would hate mirrors, hate the sight of his reflection. He would have shifty eyes because your reflection is so easy to stumble across outside. He would purposely position him self so no mirrors or reflective metal or glass are in his peripheral vision. Eyes fixed forward when in the car so he doesn't catch his reflection on the side mirrors.
I can see Dean picking up on it too. And when he realises how serious it is he'd stand in front of the mirrors himself or flip them around if that can be done.
All the mirrors in the bunker are covered. First thing to do in a motel room is cover the mirrors. Windows stay curtained at night so as not to catch a reflection on them.
"I learned that every cell in our entire body is destroyed and replaced every seven years. How comforting it is to know one day I will have a body you will have never touched."
And feeling hollow because it was his very soul that was touched?
I am soooo into the idea of the angels and demons messing with Dean and Sam respectively from when they were little. Like, yeah, the demons and Sam thing exists in canon and is explored in fics but I wanna know if there are fics with the angel and Dean aspect of it too? Does anybody know any fics like that? Please share!!
You know that thing Sam and Dean do where they stand so close to each other and lean into each other's space and sway into each other when they walk and breathe each other's air? Like, do you remember that? Yeah, yeah, they do that.
Messaging people for the first time is so hard. What am I supposed to say? Like, "You seem really odd and your blog intrigues me. Do you want to have philosophical conversations or perhaps talk about fictional characters?" What! Whatever. I will just follow you back and stare at your blog with my big beautiful brown eyes.
Reblog if you're okay with people coming into your DMs with the "you seem really odd and your blog intrigues me, do you want to have philosophical conversations or perhaps talk about fictional characters"
Maybe I would be more open to healthy critiques of Sam's character if so many of the fandom's critiques didn’t suck so bad that I'm caught in an eternal cycle of having to defend him.
Like 80% of Sam critiques are just...plain lies? Like, who's that you're talking about, cuz it ain't Sam Winchester. Or like, horrible misunderstandings of his intentions and motivations.
[Mostly happens because people have certain assumptions about who Sam is and they let that assumption colour everything they see him do, even if their assumption is dead wrong]
Another 10% is like, normal stuff framed as bad things because people are comparing it to Dean and its the dumbest shit too. "Oh look, Sam tries to eat healthy and gets holier than thou about it with Dean, but what he fails to realize is that growing Dean had to keep sacrificing his food to keep Sam fed blah blah." And other such variations of this. Like the "Sam is a bad brother because look! He doesn't immediately kill himself when he thinks Dean is dead!"
[First off, they both have issues with food and being judgy with your brother is not a moral failing. Secondly, I do not buy into the perspective that only Dean went hungry as they were kids (I will (hopefully) make this thing its own post).]
And of course, let's not forget the around 8% that's essentially Damned if you do, Damned if you don't, when it comes to Sam where my boy can't do anything right. Anything Sam does is taken in the worst way possible.
Then only 2ish% of critiques are even close to good analysis of his character.
So yeah, I don't even want to consider anything negative about him because all I wanna do is cut him some slack.
Supernatural really is the show and Sam Winchester really is the character, right?
I mean we have Dean (abuser) and Sam (victim), we have John (abuser) and Sam (victim), and Azazel (abuser) and Sam (victim), and Lucifer (abuser) and Sam (victim), and Ruby (abuser) and Sam (victim), and Castiel (abuser) and Sam (victim), and Bobby (abuser) and Sam (victim), and Mary (abuser) and Sam (victim).
And funny thing is, they all love him! They all love him and it seems the show is trying to say that loving Sam means hurting Sam. No wonder Sam girls are the way that we are when this is the example we learn from the show.
Like I said, Supernatural really is the show and Sam Winchester really is the character.
Good God I have so many thoughts I wanna post but can't articulate them to satisfaction and hence end in paralysis where I never actually write anything and post anything and am I talking about this blog or am I talking about fics both, I'm talking about both. Someone please take a sledgehammer to my brain please.
ten people (or fewer) you would like to know better.
last song i listened to: More than Words by Westlife
favorite color: Black
currently watching: Supernatural, Walker, White Collar and HBO's Harley Quinn (all rewatch)
currently reading: Supernatural Coyote's Kiss by Christa Faust
current obsession: Sam and Jared
currently working on: 5 fics (and i am nowhere close to uploading an update) - Brother Mine, A Stranger in a Stranger Land, Black Halo, Frayed Hearts and Easy Like Sunday Morning
Ten people (or fewer) you would like to know better.
Last song I listened to: into the woods by Joel Sunny
Favorite color: Pretty much every shade of purple
Currently watching: ...Toilet Bound Hanako-kun (I haven't actually watched it in over a month but it was the last thing I was actively watching along with my Supernatural rewatch)
Currently reading: Things Only Get Stranger by hughescookingfan (Go read it!! Its great)
Current obsession: Sam Winchester (surprise surprise) and Steve Harrington
Currently working on: In general? I'm crocheting a rose bouquet bag for my sister. Fic wise? ...haha, I am technically working on a Witch!Sam fic and a Werewolf!Steve fic but will they ever see the light of day? Only God knows
Last search: Supernatural chaotic forest spirit (for the Stranger Things fic)
I like it when the codependent nightmare brothers treat all their friends like they're disposable because they're insane. Them calling someone family and them leaving them to the elements is comedy gold every time.
Something something "family don't end in blood" something a prophet of the lord as a "brother", something a girl with a DND tattoo as a "sister", something a fallen angel as "family", something a young nephilim as a "son".
But nothing really reaches the importance and devotion reserved for their big brother, for their little brother, does it?
Maybe maybe because the other part of their pair is perhaps...perhaps more than family? Maybe maybe two halves of a whole? Maybe maybe soulmates?
I guess what I'm trying to say here is that, while the brothers claim that people like Cas, Jack, Charlie and Kevin are "family" to them, they never really behave that way, right?
That's if you look at it in the context of family=brother=treating them like they would treat Sam/Dean. But no one really breaks that threshold. No one quite reaches that level. But that doesn't mean they aren't family. Well, kinda, Kevin really got the short end of the stick and personally, I never saw Charlie really breaking into the family unit. But Jack, well, Jack...had his moments, Sam really saw him that way, but Dean...kinda didn't, never allowed himself to. Cas got real close, right? Cas had great relationships with both brothers but he would always come second. I guess thats what I'm trying to say is that they are family. They are close, they are loved and cared for but they don't reach the level of how Sam and Dean see each other, hence the whole "more than family" thing.
Let me take a moment here to talk about Bobby though, as the one who actually spoke this phrase it would be disrespectful of me to not talk about him. To me, Bobby really did break into the family unit in a way that none of the others did. And thinking about it, I might feel that way because of the position Bobby is in, which is that of a parent, not a peer (well, Jack is not quite peer bit there is still a strange dynamic there as the one they should be taking care of, does that make sense?). So yeah, Bobby fits the family unit because there is never an expectation of being seen as equal to their brother. He has his own position, in a way. Am I making sense?
Also, honorary mention to Benny who I was reminded of by @jinkieswouldyoulookatthis, who we have explicit confirmation of Benny=Brother≠Whatever Sam is when Dean fricking lobs his head off.
Also also honorary mention who should have been a main mention, Adam. This whole line of thinking came to me when I was thinking about a fic with Adam being proper siblings with the brothers and how hard that would be to properly integrate due to how insane Sam and Dean are, and then I forgot to include him in the main post 😭. Like, I understand why the writers didn't bring Adam back for so long. You just can't fit him into the dynamic without it being blatantly obvious that Sam and Dean see each other as more than brothers and that no one else can compare.
Something something "family don't end in blood" something a prophet of the lord as a "brother", something a girl with a DND tattoo as a "sister", something a fallen angel as "family", something a young nephilim as a "son".
But nothing really reaches the importance and devotion reserved for their big brother, for their little brother, does it?
Maybe maybe because the other part of their pair is perhaps...perhaps more than family? Maybe maybe two halves of a whole? Maybe maybe soulmates?