My 28M Wife 28F doesn't take any initiative when it comes to me and I feel like I just have a passenger for a partner how do I deal with this?
Wife 28F and I 28M have been married for 3 years together for 6. As our relationship has gone on I'm noticing more and more that my wife simply doesn't do anything "for me" on her own without my prompting or my direct instruction. She doesn't plan any dates, she doesnt surprise me with anything, she doesn't anticipate my needs or feelings, she's just kind of there and passive unless I directly tell her to do something. It's kind of hard to explain but the easiest example is if she wants to go to the movies she'll tell me and I'll plan a time, pick a movie with her input and get tickets. If I want to see a movie I'll tell her and then I'll plan a time, pick a movie with her input and get tickets. If I don't do the effort of planning the outing it just wont happen. Obviously the movie example is childish but again its a generalized example of her behavioral pattern. If I want I can force the issue but that just turns into me sock puppeting her through the task. So again using the movie example it'll just turn into her asking me what time, asking me what movie, asking me if she should/how to get tickets at which point I've just done all the labor again. I've tried talking to her about this but she gets extremely avoidant, just keeps apologizing or saying shes a terrible partner, and basically just doesnt engage with the premise at all or ask questions to get better. Until I end up having to comfort her because shes so upset that Im upset. This pattern has made it to the point where I don't even feel like bringing anything up unless its worth this cycle so I rarely ever express my disappointment. The last time this happened was my birthday, she asked me what I wanted and I said I'd like to go out to dinner at a nice restaurant. She said "okay we can do that" and come the day of my birthday I ask her when were going out to eat and she said "whenever" I asked if she had made a reservation and she said "I don't think we'll need one" so I'm like "okay where are we going then?" and then I got the "oh wherever you want". And I understand this seems like a really small and stupid thing but I just felt totally unseen and uncared for in that moment, I told her it was upsetting to me that she couldn't have been bothered to even pick a restaurant or even run me through a few options and that it was all on me again. That just started the spiral of "im sorry" "you didnt tell me where you wanted to go" and tears about being a terrible partner. So of course how did this end up? With me comforting her and picking a restaurant. The other behavior she'll have when something like this happens is to start "lawyering" how much information I gave her or exactly what I said until I get exhausted and just drop it. Like "you didn't explicitly say you wanted me to choose a restaurant and make a reservation, you just said you wanted to go out" or "you just said you wanted to go out to eat you didnt say I would be included so why would I plan something?" So I guess my question is where do I go from here? I'm sick of feeling like the project manager of my own intimacy and everytime I try to talk to her she just avoids the conflict until she can sweep it under the rug and get back to "normal". Outside of this dynamic she's a very loving partner (despite what the above impression might give) and I'm very certain of her affection and desire for me, she just doesn't express it without me giving her a step by step instruction of how to do so. I'm sorry if this doesnt make sense but basically its the whole "it wasnt about the flowers" thing.
I'm sorry that you've spent so long in a relationship where you're not allowed to have needs or feelings or ever be disappointed that you actually think this is something small that shouldn't matter and that you're stupid for being weighed down by something that is 100% completely, absolutely, totally exhausting and shitty to have to put up with. Your relationship is extremely unhealthy and one-sided, and it's honestly amazing you've powered through for this damn long.
My suggestions are:
Stop managing everything. If she asks you questions, don't answer them. She is, presumably, a full grown, capable, competent adult who knows how to look up "how to buy movie tickets" or "nearest movie theater to me" or call an employee to ask for their help. Stop giving into her learned helplessness/weaponized incompetence. Your new line is "I don't know. You pick." "I don't know. I thought we wanted to spend time together, but if you don't, that's your choice." "I don't know. Do what you want."
Spend more time with the rest of your social circle remembering that you're a great person worthy of love and effort.
Tell her you need her to start solo therapy for this issue and couples counseling. This is more powerful if you're at a breaking point and ready to start consulting a lawyer, but that's up to you. Literally every relationship needs communication to thrive, and that's completely absent here. This is not a good relationship. You both deserve a good relationship. Let's hope she's willing to do the work for that.
Solo therapy for you isn't a bad idea either to help reset your idea of normal. This isn't normal. Your wife's lack of confidence and self-esteem absolutely sucks for both of you. Somewhere safe to vent about this and remember how to validate your own feelings wouldn't hurt. And, you can't control if she's willing to get therapy or if she's willing to do the work of growing. You can control if you are.









