odds are i do not care

pronouns are whatever gender is no probably older than you

[hlyta-hara]

proof of human

I mean i guess you could just have a bot run a blog these days, it's possible in a technical sense. so i suppose this isnt very GOOD proof of human. regardless, here's a post, just so there's a post, so i don't look like spam.

Sideblog. imma put Discourse in here.

[xenineshroom]

Every time exclusionists come up with a new enemy, it seems like the core tenet is, "this group's relative privilege means they should be deprived of, community, resources, compassion, or are otherwise invading and stealing from us, the real oppressed group."

Aro and ace exclusion was like this, they'd say "Asexuals are basically straight, they can just pass as straight, nobody cares if they want to fuck or not, there's aromantic straight man invading Pride, there are quirky asexual straight girls pretending to be queer, asexuals are appropriating Stone and oppressing lesbians."

Bisexual exclusion and it was all, "Bisexuals are basically straight, they can just avoid oppression by being straight, these fucking bisexual women are bringing their homophobic straight boyfriends to pride, bisexual women are appropriating butch and femme, and they can't say dyke, those are lesbian only terms, bisexual women are oppressing lesbians."

And now it's like, "Trans men are basically cis. They can just avoid oppression by saying they are men, these fucking trans men are dangerous rapists who can pretend to be women to avoid consequences, trans men are appropriating T4T, and they can't say tranny, and can't say they were once "eggs", those are trans woman only terms. Trans men are oppressing women."

This isn't even all, transmeds also fit this bill, their enemy is just "the transtrender menace."

Like here we are again, rooting out the fake queers, policing them, traumatizing an entire community, and when we all get embarrassed about how we fell for yet another fucking queer moral panic, the damage will be downplayed, nobody will learn anything and we'll move onto the next secretly privileged queer group who needs to be annihilated in order to defend some poor defenseless women who cannot possibly defend themselves from these ugly mannish straight invaders... huh, wait a second.... why does that sound so familiar?

For those who aren't catching the hint, all of these movements have rhetoric which maps directly onto TERF rhetoric where, "Trans people are privileged invaders, they aren't really oppressed at all, they are dangerous rapists, and mentally ill liars. They are invading lesbian communities, and transing the remaining lesbians, and trans people's very existence is an existential threat to women."

[skysthelimit57]

Seeing masculinity as dangerous isn't progressive and can harm queer people. Masculinity, femininity, and androgyny are all morally neutral.

[chiimeramanticore]

the problem is trans people are no more normal about Men™ than cis people are but a lot of trans people also strongly believe they're inherently expert gender scholars as soon as they change their pronouns

[miraculouslumination]

One thing that I have also found myself so perplexed about, in a way of "Okay? And? What's the big deal?" are people who swear up and down that every single trans man, regardless of transition or lack thereof, has male privilege.

And let's just say. LET'S JUST SAY! This is true to reality. That as soon as someone accepts themself as a trans man, or transmasc, they have all the equal amounts of male privilege as cis men.

........so fucking what?

No, actually. So fucking what if we do?

So what if every single trans man and transmasc in the WHOLE WORLD (including countries and cultures where women and people AFAB) has equal male privilege as cis men?

That doesn't mean jack shit. That doesn't make them evil. That doesn't mean they're a horrible person. It doesn't determine how or when they're going to start assaulting and abusing and ripping the rights away from anyone in the women and femme social class.

If I have male privilege, then that's just fucking stupid. I don't want it, and I'm not going to use it. If I ever find that I am granted it, I'm throwing that shit out the window!!

Because guess what, that is something you can do with privilege. You can just scoot it back across the table and say "Oh no, no-no, I'm not taking this."

I really feel like the people who constantly are pressing on trans men and transmascs HAVING male privilege really treat it as some inherent sin of manhood. That it taints and stains our souls and our hearts. That it discredits us and puts us in these positions of untrustworthiness. And it's like. No, actually, it really doesn't!!

Because there is still the VERY highly likely life story before that possible male privilege of being the victim to other people's male privilege.

I think it's very similar to how we need to adopt the idea of "Having a penis doesn't inherently make you a dangerous person" and "Having she/her in your bio doesn't inherently mean you're a safe person to be around"

Which is

"Having male privilege doesn't inherently make you a raging oppressor who is always hungering for their next female victim"

Having male privilege just means you are granted special privileges and social exceptions based on your perceived birth sex/gender

It doesn't mean you have to take it, or accept it

It doesn't mean you have to feed into toxic masculinity or any shit like that

And honestly, like I said, for some of us trans men and transmascs, we probably know how it feels to be on the short end of someone wielding male privilege over us!!! So why would we then turn around and use it against other oppressed groups? Why would we just stand there and allow that shit to happen??

Well, either because we are doing it out of survival, because if we get found out to be trans, we could end up hurt or dead. Or, we do it because we've fallen for the toxic cis masculinity so many people try to force on us to make us into "real men", because a real man would want to hurt women, and if you don't want to hurt women, then why are you even a man in the first place??

It's just. It's so frustrating. It's so annoying to see people say over and over again how we all have this male privilege that we MUST acknowledge, but then seemingly have no real follow-through or next step for the ones who do say that

No "Admit you have male privilege, and then do the work to deconstruct the male privilege in those around you"

It's just usually more so "Admit you have male privilege and then shut the fuck up, sit down, and wait until we can use you like a good little meat shield" which is just

No!!! That's not how feminism works!!

[sweetpea67]

I need people to understand that “men amiright?” is a, um, REALLY COMMON REFRAIN among conservative pericishet women. I hear it CONSTANTLY from my conservative relatives. “Men are so smelly they never wash their socks! Men are sex-crazed fiends who can’t turn it down haha look how perverted they are! Men are dangerous and scary and will assault you if you run into them so you have to never go out alone at night and always cover your drink and go to the bathroom with friends and cover up so those Scary Rapist Men Who Can’t Help Themselves won’t assault you! Boys will be boys lol if a boy hits you that means he likes you ‘cause that’s just how boys are! Boys are stupid and bad at cooking and gross and weird and annoying and that’s why you have to take care of them!” That’s not feminism, no matter how you spin it, it’s just oppositional sexism.

The patriarchy wants people socially imposed female to be attracted to people socially imposed male, yes. The same way amatonormativity encourages “marriage bad / I hate my wife” jokes while still expecting everyone to get married. But the patriarchy doesn’t want women and others socially imposed female to actually date men because we like them. It wants us to submit, to give in. Because men might be gross and smelly and awful and dangerous but we still have to pick one and submit to them because it’s our rightful place. But we’re not supposed to be making active choices. We’re not supposed to have agency.

And, to some extent, I get where man-hating radfeminist sentiments come from. Especially among people who aren’t attracted to men at all. Because, on the surface, it does feel countercultural and revolutionary to go “you know what? If men are really so smelly and gross and awful then I don’t want to date them! Why should I want to marry someone who’s inherently stupid and predatory? Fuck men let them pick up their dirty socks themselves and do their own cooking!”

I get it, I get where the impulse comes from. But that’s a trap. Because at the end of the day, you’re still affirming the central premise of the patriarchy—which is that Women and Men are ontologically separate types of beings. You’re still feeding into oppositional sexism. And by acquiescing to the idea that men are scary disgusting predator freaks, you’re tacitly admitting that women who are interested in dating men can’t hope to find one who will treat them well. In fact, you can’t do this sort of rhetoric without at least partially implying that women—and indeed anyone—who is attracted to men must be in some sense responsible for any abuse they receive at their hands. That they are at least somewhat silly, misled, misinformed sluts bimbos pick-mes & fake feminists.

It’s a hop, skip and a jump from there to biphobia (because what kind of person would date a man if they didn’t have to?), whorephobia (because what kind of person would let a man fuck them for money?), kinkphobia (because what kind of person would let a man spank or whip them? what kind of person would trust a man enough to do that without abusing them, unless they are already being abused and just don’t know it yet?), butchphobia (what kind of person would want to dress like a man?), transmisogyny (how can we possibly trust this person who society regarded as a man? how can any “man” actually be a woman? surely this is just an invader trying to make us put our guard down), and transandrophobia (because what kind of “woman” would want to become a MAN?). And, nearly always, it also leads to homophobia and racism and ableism and classism and a dozen other prejudices because it’s okay if they’re all aimed at marginalized men.

And once you’ve done that, once you’ve started throwing people out and viewing everyone who has a beard or a penis or short hair with suspicion, once you’ve shunned anyone who views men in a better light than you do…you know how much you’ve changed pericishet society? Zilch. Zippo. Not at all. If anything, you’ve just contributed to it. You’ve fed the fear that people socially imposed female are expected to live in, you’ve widened the divide between the artificial categories of Man and Women, and you’ve made it harder for anyone to even dare to hold men to higher standards because you’ve accepted the notion that they are just Inherently Bad and Gross. This is what I mean when I say that radical feminism is a reactionary movement. This is what I mean when I say that you guys are two steps away from fascism. This is what I mean when I say you need to stop.

STOP.

[give-bug]

I think that TMA and TME are fine in theory as general terms like black vs nonblack and disabled vs ablebodied, but unlike these terms TME and TMA are almost always used as prescriptive rather then descriptive, and usually just as a replacement for AFAB trans person with plausible deniability.

As an example of the problem:

"Ablebodied people treat visible symptoms of disability as a joke" - statement of a general cultural problem, is not trying to imply that every single ablebodied person does this.

"Ablebodied people will never know what it's like to be told you're faking by your doctor" - Understandable as a vent post, but ignores the reality of a lot of people, both neurodivergent and with physical or neurological disabilities that don't quite push them into being considered disabled as a category.

"Ablebodies will say "I can't go outside because I'm too sad :(" meanwhile I can't go outside because I can't get out of bed without passing out and they have the audacity to claim they're more oppressed" - No longer describing ablebodied people as people but rather as a noun in itself, clearly using ablebodied as a stand-in for neurodivergent, ignoring more serious ways that neurodivergent people are oppressed in favor of a strawman that's easier to attack.

"Bomb that kills all ablebodied people" (as a bitter joke) - understandable way to feel but you probably shouldn't be posting that next to your serious political opinions. Or maybe at all.

"Bomb that kills all ablebodies" (as a serious political opinion) - Ideology entirely built on hate and spite, does not care about the realities of anyone's oppression but their own.

[shinmai]

nobody will see this, and if they do itll just blow up in myface, but fuck it, here goes anyway

i want to talk about a pattern i keep seeing w/o having the conversation immediately flattened to "oh so you hate trans women" or "oh so you do not believe transmisogyny exists"

transmisogyny is real. transfeminine people face specific, severe forms of gendered violence & discrimination, and they deserve language with which to describe that!

at the same time, i repeatedly see "TME" used less as a description of somebodys relationship to transmisogyny & more as a way to dismiss non-binary, transmasc & GNC people. someone will speak about something happening to them personally, or their own community, and the response will be an accusation that they are erasing trans women because they did not make transfem experiences the centre of that particular discussion

this is not criticism of transfems discussing transmisogyny. it is criticism of a conversational norm where some trans people are expected to append disclaimers & centre another group, whenever they discuss their own pain, while their experiences can be waved away with a single acronym

"TME" also groups together people with radically different lives, bodies, histories & relationships to misogyny, then often gets treated as though it simply means unaffected, privileged or, most gross of all, functionally cis. for many nonbinary & GNC people, that feels less like nuanced structural analysis, and more like being sorted according to AGAB using more PC wording

i want us all to be capable of holding both truths: 1. transmisogyny is a distinct and urgent form of oppression 2. transfem people are still capable of participating in binarism, transmedicalism, anti-enby prejudice, and harassment of other trans people

naming harmful behaviour by members of a marginalised group is not an attack on that entire group. none of us should be beyond criticism, especially when the people being targeted are our fellow trans & queer people

thanks for (not) coming to my TED talk

[rsquared314]

Have we forgotten as a trans community that other forms of intersectional oppression exist?

It isn't just the intersection of gender and being trans. And it applies to people outside the trans community too.

My cishet roommate is probably more oppressed than me in terms of reproductive rights. She lives in a state where abortion is highly difficult to get. I don't. I could get an abortion not easily, but easier than her.

A poor transmasc who lives in like fucking texas with an unsupportive family is going to be more oppressed than a trans women several years into her transition living in a state/place where trans people have more rights and she has a supportive community. The complicating factors here is not the gender of the trans person but rather age, location, and socio-economic status.

All trans people in Kansas lost their drivers license. This makes it so living in Kansas adds another layer of oppression to trans people there.

Black trans people obviously also have a different type of oppression and experience due to our white supremacist society. I'm not going to talk directly to it as I am not Black, but if you are, please charm in here with your thoughts/experiences.

Like my guys, I'm not really a gender abolitionist (really haven't thought about it) but have to stop clinging onto girl vs. boy so much.

This is my main problem with the TMA/TME binary. It relates all oppression to gender. Which isn't necessarily the case. I'm not a scholar, I'm a student who can't create research studies but I have common sense. Sometimes it doesn't matter what gender you are. Sometimes it does. Stop trying to make blanket statements as to who experiences more oppression and start working towards everyone facing less oppression.

[call-me-zombie]

Reading everything on this site with a paranoid reading is gonna leave you thinking everyone hates you and wants you dead whether you're transfem or transmasc or enben. There's a lot of people who don't phrase things as well as they could in an ideal world. We're all tired. We're all on full alert all the time from transphobia from the offline world and it's exhausting. Try to give people the benefit of the doubt if they're not actively calling for violence or an obvious troll. It'll be better for your health.

[maswartz]

[fractally]

This has been my main argument against "AI" from the very beginning.

OpenAI scraped the entire web. All of which had been a labor of love from humans. Wikipedia is the backbone of a lot of LLMs, and that was volunteer human labor. They stole it and now they're selling it back to us.

And worse, they're trying to destroy the free sources that they stole from. It's destruction of human knowledge on an unprecedented scale. The burning of the library of Alexandria has nothing on this.

[quastions-i-dont-ask-on-main]

Hello, Tumblr user. Here's a non-binary character who uses they/them. Their ASAB isn't relevant at all for the story and everyone regardless of relationship uses they/them for them and they're trans. Your challenge will be to not try to sniff out their ASAB. Go---- oh you're already telling other people who don't agree with you they're wrong and bigoted for hcing it different from you. Okay.

[nonbinary-wrath-month]

The reason why so many of y'all's feminism sucks is because you still believe deep down in your hearts that there are only two kinds of people in the world: precious, ethereal, fragile dollthings called "women", and violent, lustful, rage-fueled apes called "men". Until you throw that idea away, 3rd-grade-tier "girls rule boys drool, girls are princesses and boys are stinky :(" is as feminist as we'll ever get-- and I hope it's obvious that that's lightyears away from the bare minimum of where we need to be.

[experiment41]

we are NOT bringing 4chan incel terminology to this site, take that "foid" out of your post and go wash your blog out with soap

[aceincarnate]

adding an important addition: all the hyper-specific discourse and incel terminology specific to tumblr needs to stop as well. no more of this self-hating culture. we are all just here to say weird niche stuff on the internet and connect with each other.

if one of us loses, we all lose.

now go play nice in the sandbox.

[hlyta-hara]

I am fascinated by the degree to which other people seem to have Gender

[redhairandpronouns]

y'all do realize that trans men don't transition into cis men, right? like, they stay trans. you get that right?

[beau-rebloga-coisas]

Y'know I would take anti-transandrophobia/people who say transmascs shouldn't make a word to describe their oppression crowd more seriously if I hadn't seen the exact same arguments back when Ace discourse was in full-on. And non-binary discourse. And pan discourse. And bi discourse. And MOGAI discourse. And Polyamory discourse. And Aro discourse. Like. I predict it'll be like this

Phase one: Actually this subsect of the demographic isn't really oppressed and they're LARPing as oppressed.

Phase two: okay, even if they are oppressed, they're not as oppressed as (group B), and talking about their oppression takes attention from the real problem which's the oppression group B faces.

Phase three: okay they are oppressed and we're seeing that they have their own kind of oppression. But they're actually talking about their oppression the wrong way.

Phase four: Okay fine they can decide their own words >:[ i give up.

Phase five: hey wasn't it crazy when the community attacked X identity? Anyways they weren't the problem. The real problem is actually Y identity. Here, we can even use the same pitchforks!