Harry Potter convo

Convo=Debate, venting, ramblings, thoughts

[hp-debates-ramblings]

@rosemelodyshah is my main blog.

This is my bashing/rambling/debating blog

I am anti almost everyone in the HP world (except James) so be warned this will blog will have post against almost every character in HP

[hogwartsthenextgeneration]

[blueberrymash]

james sirius potter and his girlfriend find an old picture of james sirius' grandparents that they took after their wedding - and they decide to recreate it!

[moonstar505]

Teddy Lupin being Harry & Ginny’s easy chill practice kid before the menace that was James Sirius Potter came to be and then suddenly Teddy starts encouraging the chaos

[wisteria-lodge]

Better Names for the HP Epilogue Kids:

thank you @arkadijxpancakes, @fire-vvhiskey, @missbrunettebarbie, @the-phoenix-heart and the ask box anons for the excellent suggestions! I liked them so much that I just wanted to group them all in one place.

HARRY / GINNY

Fredrick (if he's the first Weasley clan grandson, and George is okay with it, Ginny might insist on this one)

Sirius (I do think it makes sense to go with Sirius, but to use it as a first name. Sirius Black's name was never officially cleared, and I think Harry would be on top of that post-war. Naming his son Sirius would be a very clear, political, statement of intent.)

Alfred (Honors Fred without being on the nose, and the Al- honors Albus without out being too on the nose. Also very Weasley-coded.)

Ariana (Honors Albus... but Harry isn't conflicted about Ariana, and it doesn't cast as huge a shadow over the kid (one step away from naming him Merlin, honestly.) Also, I think Albus would honestly be pretty uncomfortable with a child named after him, and would prefer one named after his sister)

Evan (Very classy way to name a kid after Lily Evans)

Fleamont “Monty” (Important Potter family name with a Weasley-coded nickname)

Godric (Honors Lily, James and Albus who all lived at Godric's Hollow. And of course Godric Gryffindor, because Harry and Ginny are two of the loudest Gryffindors to ever Gryffindor.

Wulfric (One of Albus' middle names, so a more subtle way to honor him. Also that "Wolf" part brings in Remus)

Ruby (Fits in well with the other Weasley names, very Gryffindory, would be an adorable way to name someone after Hagrid.)

Holly (Cute, Weasley-coded, and a botanical name like Lily while bringing in the protective elements of Harry's holly wand.)

Minerva (Harry and Ginny both have nothing but good associations, it's a good name, and "Minnie" is a cute Weasley-ish nickname. Also makes more sense than 'Luna,' which they went for in-canon.)

The Weasleys seem to possibly favor names with an Arthurian vibe (Arthur, Percy) and they are very wizardy in a way Harry might enjoy. So some options in that category:

Vivienne (magical character)

Elaine (also happens to be the "Lily Maid," so another way to get Lily in there)

Gawain (very Gryffindor kind of guy)

Guinevere (Gwennie or Jenny for short. Ginny and Jenny would be very cute)

RON / HERMIONE

Jean (Hermione's middle name, and very possibly her mom's name. It would make a lot of sense to name kids after Hermione's (muggle) parents)

Harriet (cute way of naming a kid after Harry, who is basically family to both Hermione and Ron)

Everyone seems to like the idea of Hermione and Ron going to Shakespeare for their names. 'Hermione' is a Shakespeare name, and it makes sense that she would favor a muggle writer who loves to write about magic. Some good options:

Hero (Ron would think this is cute and funny)

Rosalind

Prospero / Prosper (naming a son after the wizard character would be fun for both of them)

Miranda (the wizard's daughter)

Owen (after wizard Owen Glendower)

Viola

Lysander

Imogene

Robin (Robin Goodfellow, so fairy/magic connection)

Benedick

Perdita (Hermione's daughter in A Winter's Tale. Hermione would get a kick out of this)

Toby

Edgar

Eleanor

Sebastian

Tamora

DRACO / ASTORIA

Corvus (This is the constellation that would have been in the sky during the Battle of Hogwarts/Voldemort's death, which makes it a classy choice... but it also does show up in the Fantastic Beasts films as a super Lestrange name, and Draco would know that.)

Regulus (makes a LOT of sense to honor another Death Eater who changed sides, as well as the Black family. Underlines the importance of family tradition while also allowing Draco to telegraph exactly where his new loyalties lie.)

Berenice (also referencing a constellation above the death of Voldemort. Means 'victory bringer,' which - appropriate.)

Aquila (another astronomy name. Latin for "Eagle," which might make a nice pair with Astoria, which means "Hawk.")

Amalthea (very, very pretty and soft astronomy name.)

Sylvius/Sylvia (Latin "forest." Nice, standard pureblood name, but the meaning does have a nice overlap with Astoria's maiden name, Greengrass. Also, the 'y' and 'l' sounds makes it sound really nice with 'Malfoy.')

Draco might also want to use a botanical name, to honor Narcissa. The narcissus (daffodil) is also an early spring flower, and I think that symbolism would appeal to Draco and Astoria: publicly communicate that this is a new start for the family. In that category, I like:

Iris

Hyacinth (Draco would use this name for either a boy or girl. Also sounds similar to 'Hyperion,' Scorpius' canon middle name, so presumably Draco and/or Astoria would think it sounds nice)

Forsythia (Just a very striking flower name. Also "Sythie" as a nickname is kinda cool.)

[hp-debates-ramblings]

I much prefer your names to the og!

[prongsievans]

literally the funniest part of the entire harry potter series is that a grown man old enough to complain about back pain and taxes (voldemort) was out here having a full-time personal rivalry with a baby

like, imagine being 70

and your mortal enemy is;

goo goo ga ga

he really said “this baby in the crib looked at me wrong” and built his entire personality around it

like, the whole plot was about a 17 year old child and a 70 year old man who wanted to kill him and made it everyone's problem

and everyone in the wizarding world was terrified of a man whose biggest enemy was a 17 year old boy

and the death eaters

the DEATH EATERS

half of whom had kids of their own

were out there chasing a toddler like

“yes my lord we ride at dawn to kill this little baby who can’t walk yet”

meanwhile narcissa is at home like

“lucius please you missed draco’s first steps because once again, you were busy trying to murder a baby who is literally draco's age”

and voldemort had the nerve

the absolute nerve

to still be beefing when harry was 11

14

17

like bro

shouldn’t you be knitting or something ?

getting a prostate exam ??

drinking herbal tea for your soul ???

also the timeline is insane

harry defeats ancient fascist wizard man,

collects a lifetime of trauma,

and does it all BEFORE HE’S OLD ENOUGH TO DRINK BUTTERBEER LEGALLY

meanwhile voldemort is in his seventies doing a school shooting arc because one teenager keeps making him look stupid by always beating him

he’s an elderly hater who let an entire wizarding world burn because a baby kicked his ass once

embarrassing behavior honestly.

[ravenclawloverofseverussnape-de]

Severus notices.

Severus: lily, the fact that you have been my friend and I have been blind all the time does not mean that you are a good person, the fact that you scold me for saying mudblood and say that everyone who is like you makes you a hypocrite , since when I say it to another person it is good but if I say it to you it is wrong, let's not forget that you left me vulnerable in my worst memory and you humiliated me and even so you think you are the victim it makes you look like a worse person.

Lily:......

Severus: You also hung out with James Potter which makes you even more of a hypocrite.

[rosemelodyshah]

Hate Snape but aye maybe we can bond on hating Lily??

I want to make something where Snape mentions all this in great detail or something. (Like idk tells Voldy to bring Lily to him and personally makes her feel horrible b4 letting her go/letting her die would be fun) (even better Lily and Jame sbreak up, and againt all odds James and Snape bond over hating Lily. Like they hate eachother in every way and would kill the other no doubt, but then they'd also meet at the club to talk bad about Lily?)

#Pro-whoeverAnti Lily Club (#PidcALE) is one I'd happily join tbh.

Love that you pointed the hypocrisy of this woman out.

[ravenclawloverofseverussnape-de]

You have your reasons to hate Snape, I have no problem and I respect you, because I have to admit that Severus is a character with flaws, however we can join in hating Lily Evans, a hypocritical person, a bad friend, a bad sister.

[rosemelodyshah]

I'd love to join you on long long posts on why Lily is awful!!!

[ravenclawloverofseverussnape-de]

Let's join the cause a little, yes it's true that Lily is Harry's mother but I don't like how they paint her as if she hasn't done anything wrong.

[rosemelodyshah]

Exactly!

Like for one, she is flawed and it is in text.

For another, why on earth is good compared to her? I hate the 'James obvi is good Lily got with him' like dude you do know that's not actually defense right? Or Snape isn't good bc Lily chose James? Like dude that's insulting too many characters just to make Lily the good one idk which planet you come from

Also, who do so many people think Harry wanted a mother? Like despite her 'love saving him' or whatever, she is so minor and Harry barely thinks about her/wishes for her.

Also I love how her goodness kinda depends on how she's Harry's mom bc Lily is so unknown of a character every point 'we know' is like she was this to that character she was that to this character and so why are they so set on making her the best? technically she is the worst bc her being good is literally dependant on her being something to someone. Like Make her Voldy's spy and that's it any and all 'good' things about her finish bc it's that dependeant on who she was with in what context. Technically, her being good depends on being the chosen ones mother and dying for said chosen one bc there are little to no 'Lily Evans' anything.

All we have is she made that fish thing for Slughorn and Petunia hated her and James married her and Snape loved her and she was Harry's mother and she was dead. If the series was from anyone else's POV, I doubt we'd really even remember.

Petunia's POV, yh she's bad. Voldys? Dead body. Snape's? That girl. James'? That girl he married. Ron's? the woman who shares eye colour with Harry. Hermione's. Same as Ron. Sirius? James' lover.

Even in Harry's POV she wasn't much of anything except people refuse to read b/w the lines.

Which state that she is a hypocrite, manipulator, bad sister, bad friend, guilt tripper...

[padfootastic]

every time i read a fic where lily evans is upheld as a paragon of justice and the underdogs and the vulnerable, i die a little inside

bc,,,,are we talking ab the same gal who kept defending snape for atleast five years of hogwarts and however many before that? who overlooked his bigoted actions, even when others called it/her out on it?

ugh

(now james, on the other hand? we have such clear evidence that he fits this archetype but ofc that’s overlooked isn’t it. gonna shut up here but will take the rant into the tags)

[test-broken]

YES!!!!1

Liek I want to know where Lily became the great grand justice carryign queen from. There's ZILCH

Meanwhile James doing all and more for the abused and letdown and the 'abnormal' and all

But no Lily befriended someone when she was 9 who also knew about magic tried amnipulatign him into not being dark and only truly had an issue with anything when he callled HER Mudbloob bc b4 that she was making excuses to her 'friends'

Also adding that she didn''t really care about them pickign on Snape bc she does chuckle when they put him upside down AND she is only to happy and ready to leave. I've broken ties and friendship and this is not how it goes at all. You don't j magically realise that yes this aint gon last and then go. She j chose the simplist way to cut it off while looking like a not entitled person (and failed bc I see what you r doing Evans)

As to what to do you talk to me I agree X1000

[neverenoughmarauders]

Snape stans: Severus was so young when he was groomed to become a DE. He shouldn't be held accountable.

Also Snape stans: James fucking Potter deserves to burn in hell for, age 16, being responsible for Severus becoming a DE.

[winters-on-the-wing]

LITERALLY.

[lostwriter--xx3]

Snape stans: James Potter was responsible for pushing Snape into the DE side. I mean, yeah, we was so hell bent on Slytherin, which was so widely regarded as a DE house that Slytherin aspirants even in Harry’s era were treated with unease, even before Snape ever met James, but that was all his mother’s fault!!

Also Snape stans: What do you mean James Potter might have been raised to mistrust Slytherin by his parents because literally almost all Slytherins became DEs after passing out and his parents were open-minded and did not support mass murder? Nooo, that sixteen year old teen who risked getting expelled to help his marginalised friend deal with his lycanthropy a little better and risked his life to save a rival who called his crush a racial slur is the devil incarnate!! The teen defending his friend’s for harassing girls in the corridor is not the problem at all!

[hp-debates-ramblings]

They just. Can't keep to one opinion.

And somehow at the end of whatever foolish thing the say, they blame James?

I feel like if everything they say ALWAYS goes back to James maybe they like him more than they like to think?

[totallyhighoidnight]

I hate Snape because he bullied children. He was in a position of power as their teacher. Nothing excuses his behavior. Behavior like this can have damaging effects on children. There is obvious inbalance of power between teacher and child. He was adult ,he should've known better.

[winters-on-the-wing]

reminder that if james potter is a sexual abuser, then severus snape is a sexual abuser too because he invented the spell that james used to “sexually abuse” (LMFAO) snape and because of how the magic system works, james would have to have heard somebody else say the spell at least once, more likely more than once, in order to understand the pronounciation and wand waving technique. and since nobody knows that snape invented the spell, it’s likely that he didn’t teach it to anybody else, which means that it’s likely snape who james saw do the spell. and even if it wasn’t, creating a spell invented to turn someone upside down and cause their robes to fall over is absolutely more sexual abuse than using it one time. snape would have to test out the spell to see if it worked. therefore, if james is a sexual abuser, which he isn’t, then snape is much more of one. :)

[hp-debates-ramblings]

Also, I find it ridiculous that it was funny and 'what Fred and George would do' when Harry did it to Ron, but oh so wrong when James did it to Snape.

[maraudingthroughlife]

Which Marauder is the problem solver?

Sirius Black

James Potter

Remus Lupin

Peter Pettigrew

Voting ended onAug 26, 2024

[noneofthisfeelsreal]

i keep getting this poll on my dash and it really says something beautiful about the community ive cultivated that everyone is annoyed remus is winning not sirius

[suncchaser]

I need everyone to put AO3 down and pick up the books, I am begging at this point…

[artemisia-black]

In the books, Harry writes to Sirius multiple times to try and get his problems solved…..

You know the man who is successfully evading the law.

Just sayin’

[neverenoughmarauders]

Well Harry couldn’t very well write to James could he?!?

It’s Sirius AND James. Please, I get Sirius has the advantage of being alive but canonically it’s really nothing to suggest it’s either of them, but both - together. Because they were always together.

[hp-debates-ramblings]

I missed this poll and couldn't cast my vote but BY LIFE IT IS NOT REMUS.

It is either Sirius or James— I'd actually give the edge to James simply bc he was the only one with the ability to pay Remus during the war and because he was the one Sirius went to when he needed a place to stay (though that doesn't mean Sirius is worse really)

But Remus? Remus abandoned his pregnant wife Lupin? Who Harry basically forced to learn how to cast a patronus from?

Someone read the book he was not the problem solver. At all.

Sirius was. James was.

[winters-on-the-wing]

while i agree that it’s important to acknowledge james’ flaws and accept that he was a bully, i think that a lot of the fandom is way too critical of james because they aren’t looking at him from the context of the other characters.

yes being a bully is terrible and i’m not trying to take that away.

but why is james getting so much flack for bullying one person, one person who clearly had the wherewithal to fight back effectively, and one person who often started the altercations, and one person who was pretty evenly matched in terms of magic ability and was actively a bigot who was horrible to minorities? when there are tons of other characters who are literally fascists and bigots and slave owners who aren’t getting any criticism at all? like it just doesn’t make sense.

i’ll see people hate on james and then praise SIRIUS. how?? sirius is an even worse bully than james, and he seems to take even LESS accountability. remus literally tries to abandon his own child while james DIED for his child. don’t even get me started on the death eater characters considering that they’re literally supporting an ethnic cleansing and killing and torturing innocent people for their own selfish gain. and even lily, people will act like she’s such a better person than james, but i would say she and james are evenly matched considering that she was quite complicit with snape’s blood supremacy until it affected her directly. at least james always stands up against blood supremacy from the very beginning, which i don’t see any other characters in that era match james’ level of conviction in that sense from the very start, except maybe sirius.

like i said, james does deserve criticism.

but most of the criticism he gets ends up just being extremely hypocritical based on how the fandom treats the other characters who have done significantly worse things than him.

like if you wanna talk about him being brash and overly impulsive? that’s valid. or him being prone to speak his mind without considering if what he’s saying is necessary or kind? that is also valid. or critiquing his decision to hang snape upside down in front of people because in that moment, snape did not instigate the event? that is completely reasonable.

i’m just pointing out that it’s stupid to criticize james in a way that implies that he’s among the worst people with the worst moral code out of the marauders era characters when really, the evidence we have of james and the other characters indicates overwhelmingly that practically the opposite is true, and james has an unusually honorable moral code with snape and the bullying being a character flaw that he overcomes.

i personally would rather be friends with a bully who actively takes steps against blood supremacy from the very beginning than be friends with a non-bully (though i would argue snape was a bully too, esp to lily) who is active or even complicit in the war/intended genocide on muggleborns. maybe that’s unpopular, but that’s just how i feel, as someone who was severely bullied in my childhood.

it’s not me trying to like make a competition out of who the best person is. they’re all flawed including james. he’s done a lot of awful things. but all kids do. and i just get frustrated when i see other characters get grace and benefit of the doubt extended to them while james doesn’t.

[hp-debates-ramblings]

The thing I have is that they were in the middle of a war and it is pretty obvious that James and Snape support opposite sides so they would obviously fight each other-- no matter how unbalanced or wrong or who started and do what or whatever.

It isn't about James being rich or powerful or anything.

Snape supported the death eaters. We know Snape wasn't a death eater in his school years (or at least as if SWM and The Prank) bc he was actively friends with Lily and even tries to make amends, but people were becoming death eaters as young as sixteen (Regulus), and the war was killing lots of people, and tensions were high, and I think that this was among the heart of the issue between the two of them.

Snape very obviously did support Voldemort. He called non-Lily Muggle borns Mudblood, knew more dark magic than half the 7th years in his first years, and made some dark and very morally and legally questionable spells, such as sectum sempra, for ENEMIES, which he had to have used at some point because he had a counter curse, and clearly the point behind making it was either to use against James (more literal direct enemy) or you could argue the people against Voldemort (in a more far away indirect enemy).

James and Snape had a reason of hating each other. They had a reason to fight each other. Whether that became unbalanced or unfair or whatever.

Snape could fight back, would start fights, and definitely used his spells on SOMEONE or the other— had a counter curse for Sectum Sempra, so he's used it before; James knew of Levicorpus; James also knew of the counter curse to Levicorpus (Liberacorpus).

[doingthingsinpurple]

Snape hating Harry is proof Snape hated James more than he loved Lily

WHO SAID THAT

[hp-debates-ramblings]

Yess

His redemption arc sucked and as far as I'm concerned was not a redemption arc at all. It was just him being selfish and creepy

[winters-on-the-wing]

hilarious how when james (a child) rescued snape from remus during the prank, snape stans write it off and say “he just wanted glory!” or “he just wanted to impress lily!” when first of all, nobody (including lily) knew this would happen until after the fact and because of remus’ dangerous situation, nobody ever would if james could help it.

and then the very same people act like snape (grown ass adult by the way) was some holy saint for rescuing harry. like first of all, it’s his responsibility as a professor to protect his students and second of all, his reason for protecting harry was extremely selfish, in harry, he saw his teenage crush that he was obsessed with and he clearly didn’t actually care for the kid.

like just admit that james did something kind. it’s not that hard. snape stans love preaching about how marauders stans suck at characterization but honestly you guys are worse because you can’t seem to write any characters without making them perfect angels who do no wrong or horrific bullies who are pure evil and nothing else.

[hp-debates-ramblings]

Exactly!!!!!!!

[hp-debates-ramblings]

I'm just wondering do U support JK Rowling

Hi! Thanks for the ask!

I tend to stay away from the political side of things when it comes to books

She is very controversial atm but her actions rn doesn't disturb my love for Harry Potter, which is a wonderful series made by her, independant (for me, anyway) of whatever wrong or right she says now.

I don't support her, really, but then I don't quite follow the news with what controversies she is in, either, and I want to keep it that way, because I am much more interested in Harry Potter, the book series (and movies), than what horrors or wonders its creator is doing.

I only know that she has some strong opinions, a general overview i suppose, but I distance myself from that because her individual views about things don't matter to me.

[totallyhighoidnight]

Hate when people make Sirius pathetic in order for Lupin to be cool. There is no universe in which Lupin is cool.