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in 1880 there were 13 girls named kizzie born in the us
Kizzy/Kizzie had a very brief, very dramatic spike in the US in 1977 because of the character from the show Roots.
FAV DEVIL’S MINION FIC REC
I just realized that if you just follow me on Ao3 and not @wisteria-lodge, you might be missing out on her fantastic Devil’s Minion fic. It is SO GOOD, y’all. If you’re even remotely familiar with Wisteria’s meta you know she goes deep into the research and this fic is no different.
It’s set post season 2 and it starts out wanting to answer the question of why Armand didn’t stick around after turning Daniel. What made him flee? I won’t spoil anything but I REALLY love the answer it provides.
It’s got a lot of chapters published already and more in the works. And if you love a well researched fic that cites its sources, you should absolutely check it out.
An Archive of Our Own, a project of the Organization for Transformative Works
Thank you for the rec!! I really love this one, and I'm kind of floored by the amount of love it's getting. I'm working on the next chapter right now, and it's got deranged Devil's Minion hunting date, a very hot sex scene, and an extensive bibliography! Look at my bibliography!
“Reassessing Roman Pederasty in Relation to Roman Slavery: The Portrayal of Pueri Delicati in the Love-Poetry of Catullus, Tibullus, and Horace” by Beert C. Verstraete
“Roman Pederastic Poetry: The Problem of the Puer Delicatus” by Elizabeth Gabrielle Harvey
“Pueri delicati in the household of Pliny the Younger: slaves’ strategies of resistance to sexual abuse” by Gonzalo Fontana Elboj
Power and Eroticism in Imperial Rome by Caroline Vout
Recovering Runaways: Slave Catching in the Roman World by Laurie Venters
“The use and meanings of Lat. Exoletus” by J.N. Adams
The specific bit Armand quotes comes from Seneca the Younger’s Moral Letters to Lucilius (Letter 95)
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(Ariaste Roman twink genders post)
^ Seriously, read Ariaste's Roman Twink Genders post. It's a fantastic read, and she's letting me borrow her definition of "puer delicatus" for Daniel's internal monolog.
"I make it a rule never to sleep with my bandmates."
Louis and Lestat + "intimate" sex scenes
In Louis's two seasons of Interview with he Vampire, whenever we see sex on screen --it's emotionally intimate. Louis actually shows us *lack* of emotional intimacy through *lack* of sex: he makes a point of telling us that his libido is shot when he and Lestat are disagreeing about the ethics of being a vampire, Lestat says they aren't having sex (Louis isn't taking advantage of his "considerable considerables") during the period Louis is pissed at him for pushing Claudia away. When Armand is pushing for more intimacy in the relationship than Louis wants to give, we cut to some point after sex:
where Louis is facing away, wearing a shirt when Armand isn't. It's a very similar moment to the one in Dubai, after Louis gives Armand a little peck of a kiss. Again, the blocking has Armand gazing at Louis while Louis isn't looking at him at all.
Armand seems to maybe want a little more -- but Louis already has his eyes closed, and the pajamas and iPad communicate that nothing more is likely to happen tonight.
Louis' pattern only breaks with Daniel in 1973 -- when he tells Daniel to put his shirt back on, that the "off the menu" emotional intimacy of just the interview is more special than the 128 boys he's been "consummating and draining." Which is... very Lestat behavior. And, "Lestat, Lestat, Lestat, Lestat, Lestat" is REALLY on Louis' mind right then.
That's more the speed of what we get in Lestat's season. Season 3 sex scenes are NEVER emotionally intimate - instead we get Gabriella, Magnus, anonymous groupies, Baby Jenks/Dee/Lestat/Elevator Operator foursome that gets interrupted by an ad for vodka. The oNE sex scene that looks like it might be going into emotionally intimate territory - human!Lestat/human!Nicki - is the one our narrator makes a point of cutting away from completely ("it goes where you think it goes.")
Lestat is obviously dealing with a lot of trauma around sex, and the related issue of thinking on some level that love and affection must be sexual in nature. This seems to be a really baked-in core belief, and one that really affected his relationship with Claudia. Whether he liked it or not, whether he was totally aware of it or not, Lestat DID think of her as a romantic rival (and like, he's been dealing with incest since he was a kid, of course he did...)
I think this is what his trial epiphany is getting at ("she looked at me at the end, like a child, looking to her father.") Lestat realizes in that moment, much too late, that he's gotten their relationship completely wrong. That's the moment he comes back to in order to write "Stained Glass Eyes," paired with the memory of the Claudia he used to play the piano with (and - if he taught her to play the piano - that's some very parent + child love and affection right there.)
So... when Lestat tells Salamander "I make it a rule never to sleep with my bandmates" he delivers it as a joke, but it actually shows a huge amount of personal growth. Because... this is a New Rule. Antionette definitely counts as a bandmate, and he definitely slept with her. The other members of the Theatre des Vampires are at least bandmate *adjecent,* and he slept with Nicki... and Armand. (I mean he's cagey about it, but Armand and Hallucination!Nicki both say he did, and he drops the lyric "He asked me, "Was it good?" / I said "Comme ci, comme ça" into Armand's diss track.)
But these days, Lestat has a lot of affection for his band AND is making it clear up front that none of it is sexual. Lestat does have a 'physical affection' arc with Louis, and it's one that moves heartbreakingly slowly in such a frantic season. Louis and Lestat aren't even in the same *city* the first time they talk, then they're talking at a legal proceeding (with chaperones). Lestat sings to Louis and hands him a book (in a crowded venue.) They sit alone in a parked car - they barely graze pinkies. Then Louis hugs Lestat while he's having a panic attack, Lestat puts blood in Louis' beer, sings to him in an EMPTY venue... and the season ends with them touching the scars on each other's necks. Which, if you're Lestat, is a million times more emotionally intimate than kissing.
Louis & Lestat's Matching Eye Color
While Louis "Pretty Green Eyes" du Lac definitely does have greener eyes (going more into olive green and forest green) and Lestat's eyes are more of a grey-green-blue, when I started color picking I was suprised by how much overlap they really do have.
(and, sometimes, they'll even have eyes that are *exactly* the same color.)
The Circle & the Line
I want to talk about one of my favorite pieces of visual symbolism / visual storytelling in The Vampire Lestat.
Like, I think of it as the season's primary motif. A circle, and a line. That's the bowling alley + bowling ball. It's the ice-cream scoop. It's the tour bus + wheels ("the wheels on Lestat go me-me-me.") It's the music note. The first thing Lestat says to Louis is "a balloon is nice" and - in case we missed that - here's Louis with a bunch of balloons.
(and that word "nice" is important. It comes back in the finale as a happy ending, instead of the "not enough" Lestat feels it is in the beginning.)
We even have some incidental circles-and-lines, that aren't there for any reason other than visual cohesion.
(I like that the wrecking ball is the image the showrunner decided to put over his name.) (I also think that the stripper + stripper pole images belong here, but they were blocked by the tumblr content gods)
So... what does it mean?
So the line is Lestat. Movement, progress, action, tight barreling forward. This is a season full of hallways, corridors, long tables, alleys. Our main set is the tour bus. And Lestat? Always doing a walk-and-talk, walk-and-sign-the-paper. He's showering when he's talking to Armand, he's watching strippers when he's talking to Christine and Gabriella, he's always doing SOMETHING. He refers to himself as things like the "scalpel" and the "last of the sutures." Y'know. Lines.
I think the constant movement gives him the illusion of control. Lestat's spent a pretty large chunk of his life trapped and stagnant (first by his family, then by Marius/Akasha). The thing about the "long table" is that it ISN'T him sitting at the head.
It's his father, it's Magnus, it's Gabriella, and it's a victory when he can finally do this:
Symbolically taking responsibility for the 'direction' his life is going.
And the most extreme version of Lestat-as-line is when he's speeding in the car, driving as a way to escape his memories of Magnus.
Because of course, that's the reason for this. Lestat is trying to escape his trauma by keeping himself busy, existing as just a body, just keep going, just keep going. Don't think about it.
But then the car flips, rotates. The next shot is the world upside down - we're rolling. The line is becoming the circle.
Because if the LINE is action, then the CIRCLE is contemplation and reflection. It's being inside your own head.
Which is very much where LOUIS has been trapped this whole season. Lestat is always moving? Louis is never moving. He's sitting, he's still. He's reliving and revisiting the past, cycling inside his own head, unable to move forward.
Our introduction to Louis is as a head on Lestat's iPad. Only a head.
And one more circle I want to throw in:
Like, the obvious interpretation of this shot is that Gabriella has Lestat by the balls. BUT... if circles are thoughts, contemplation, reflection. Well, that's showing us visually WHY Lestat doesn't particularly want to go there. Gabriella's in his head, making sure he circles around and around without making any progress, just like she plays with those ping-pong balls.
That's why it's lovely that the first time Lestat and Louis REALLY talk this season, make some real progress... it's in a parked car. Lestat is able to be still when he's with Louis. He can sit and think and process. And Louis can lean on Lestat's action, can get him to go in and end the situation with Regina, because he can't do it himself.
And that's why the finale, with its Beetlejuice-esque beheading, is kind of brilliant. Because really? The circle and the line... that's just a head and a body. Lestat has been finding pockets of stillness all season - with Louis, while composing (that's why it's important that he has to record the album in a literal underground bunker) but it's only when he is ONLY a head that he is forced to unpack, process, and come to the conclusion that he wants to stop. He doesn't want to go on stage.
And Louis' body (without his head) gets to struggle, and reach, and get out of Armand's saw trap. Get up out of the chair he's been sitting in all season.
Spin the wheel. That's who's trying to kill you.
Spin the wheel again. That’s who’s trying to protect you.
(If you have zero idea about a name you got, spin until you see someone you recognize.)
Are you safe?
Absolutely not. I'm dead. 100% dead.
I might stay alive, but it'll be a really close thing.
I'll take some hits, for certain, but I should be okay in the end.
A few attacks might get through, but nothing concerning.
The attacker might be able to get in one lucky hit. If that.
I am the opposite of worried. I'm 100% safe.
…Look. I've tried picturing this. But I honestly don't know how to answer.
(I've run this poll twice before, expanding it significantly for the second run. With about a year passed since that second run, I thought it was time to add another couple hundred names to the list and have another go.)
Elsa is attacking me, and I was all set to say I am dead, dead, really dead. But Rick Sanchez is protecting me, and if he's *actually* committed to that, I think his brand of trickery, manipulation, genre-savvyness and super-science would probably do okay. I mean, Prince Hans technically neutralized Elsa, and if he could do it, I think Rick could figure it out.
I always feel so cheated in stories when characters are walking around with this Big Guilt and then...you find out that the thing wasn't their fault at all. And not in a "they thought they did it but it turns out they were set up" way, or even a "accepting that just because they did A which caused B which caused C it doesn't mean C was their fault", way but where they finally lay out the sequence of events and it's clear that any thinking person would not connect them. Like, fucking commit!!! The character isn't LESS compelling if they actually did the thing! You can't have the haunted brooding meow meow who is...also completely blameless
Also relevant in cases where additional info comes out that reframes the Big Guilt as Character Being Too Wonderful. Like when it turns out their "kidnapping" charge was "bringing niece over state lines to protect them from abusive stepparent." Like dude, just lead with that. Everyone else telling this story would ALSO be leading with that.
Like... that's a really, really hard narrative trick to pull off and make satisfying. *Everything* about Jaime Lannister has to be set up in exactly the right way, so you're not sitting there thinking "so WHY didn't he just tell people the context behind why he killed the king???"
I think Lestat has a very early 1800s attitude towards sex work.
Like, he was an actor, in paris, at a time when "actor" and "sex worker" were basically treated as the same profession.
(ESPECIALLY for actresses. It's always harder to talk about male sex work, since it tended to be much less "official" and fly under the radar a whole lot more. But it 100% existed.)
This informs (normalizes) his relationship with Magnus. From Lestat's perspective, since he is an actor, it is not actually out of line for Magnus to just assume he's sexually available. The rest of it, the kidnapping, the serial killer stuff, maybe we can talk about that, but the sex. and leaving him with a big pile of money afterwards. I think that's sort of... excused by his worldview, in a way that complicates the whole experience. To hear Lestat tell it, "I understood my maker. If I had seen nineteen straight performances of my Lélio, I would have abandoned all decorum too." Magnus did what he did because he was an actor, and Lestat is like, that's how it goes.
And now he's on the stage again, and we get little exchanges like -
CHRISTINE. His lawyer says he's a fan and would appreciate an exclusive fan experience. LESTAT. Do I have to fuck him? CHRISTINE. Yes.
and he's so unbothered that it almost seems like a joke. But I don't actually think it's a joke. I think he's... acting like a nineteenth century actor. Because he is one.
Nothing hits like "romantic couple and a third guy who's not dating either of them but is definitely a part of this dynamic"
bonus if you know which two are the "official" couple in this one.
Hand bound copy of The Prison of the Phoenix with accompanying fic Harry Potter and Malfoy's Suspicious New Interest by @wisteria-lodge and @niche-pastiche
The cover art i designed and made would not attach to the real leather so ill need to make a new cover, but thats what it looks like on a black matte board with the spine design
All art inside the book, including end papers and book divider was made by the author.
(BTW the rainbows are just my window, but surprisingly fitting)
Oh WOW. It's so beautiful. My fic! With sewn endbands and leather binding and a ribbon bookmark!!!!!
I'm trying to articulate one of my favorite character types, which I think is "wildly confused about what genre they're in."
Like -- Prince Hans has no idea he's in a disney princess movie. he thinks he's in Game of Thrones. he'd be doing GREAT in game of thrones.
Izzy Hands Our Flag Means Death is like if a side character from Master and Commander wandered into a Jim Henson project. (like Muppet Treasure Island. or Labyrinth.)
And Commodore Norrington... 100% thinks he's in a Jane Austen romance. would be doing Great in a Jane Austen romance. But instead, through no fault of his own, he is surrounded by comedy pirates and fighting skeletons.
some visual parallels between the Magnus "music video" in The Vampire Lestat ep 3
... and two pretty famous vampy music videos
["Total Eclipse of the heart" (Bonnie Tyler) and "I Would Do Anything For Love (But I Won't Do That)" (Meatloaf)]
Very fun how, in Lestat's eyes, Daniel and his "father" Armand are just the same guy. Two nervy, twitchy, sadistic little writer-gremlin-addicts. just a little too shrewd for their own good. And while he does find them both kind of annoying... yeah he does grudgingly admit that they make good backup.
One thing I'm really loving about the perspective shift between Interview with the Vampire and The Vampire Lestat is how Lestat and Louis appear in each other's narratives, through each other's eyes.
Louis sees Lestat as this primal force of nature who looks like a romance novel hero, can effortlessly control any room, is "preternaturally charming," impeccably turned out, no one can say no to him for long.
but we get in LESTAT'S head, and suddenly he has scars and a tangled mane of hair, people are constantly talking over him, he sweats, he's getting beat up and his clothes are getting destroyed in a non-sexy way, he's flailing around wildly with NO idea what he's doing, people (lestat included) think he's untalented and annoying.
And LOUIS, well. Louis clearly sees himself as uncanny, reserved, compelling but a little off-putting. He is other: cut-off from humanity, holding his emotions and relationships at arm's length.
Then we see him in The Vampire Lestat, and it's like no. This is the warmest, cutest, sexiest, coolest, most capable and most desirable man who has ever walked the face of the earth.
still not over louis being so surprised that burning daniel's laptop didn't work because of the cloud. and then. burning daniel's laptop again. and still acting so shocked about the cloud. #myclown
he doesn't have the cloud gift :(
Louis & Armand's Living Room Wall: A Character Analysis
So Louis and Armand have this giant wall, in their living room. The wall is given a lot of screentime, and a lot of importance. And I think that this wall (and what's hanging on it) says a LOT about Louis' mental state, Armand's mental state, and the state of their relationship.
So this is the very first shot we get of the inside of the penthouse, it's our intro into Daniel in Louis & Armand's world.
We've got those three red pantings, called out in dialog as "the Bacon triptych" "Three Studies for Figures at the Base of a Crucifixion," and "The Three Furies." Which I think we're meant to read as a visual representation of Louis' pain.
First, Francis Bacon is specifically riffing off this altarpiece:
and you can absolutely see him subtly using the iconography and shapes of (from left to right) - John the Apostle, the Virgin Mary, John the Baptist
the left one has John's red hair and red wrap, the center has mary's white veil/headscarf, and Bacon leans into the way it kinda looks like a blindfold (the shape of Mary Magdalene has been simplified into that table/tripod thing.) And the one on the right is the general shape of John the Baptist, with the lamb represented as that furry carpet.
The most important painting is the center "Virgin Mary" one, the one that frames Daniel. And the most OBVIOUS meaning here (other than the catholic of it all, which is very Louis) is -- death of a child. Mary is watching Jesus die. It's a painting of his Claudia pain.
BUT these are also the three "furies," the goddesses of vengeance (so ALSO very Louis) who come down especially hard on liars and oath breakers. And the remaining liar/oath breaker? Armand, and arguably Lestat. Louis doesn't know the extent of Armand betrayal, but he DOES know that he sold them out to the Paris coven because of his "cowardice." These are the two main sources of his current pain. Daniel is here to help them process them, and that's why Daniel's sitting right in the middle of them. His head is literally in the game.
BUT Armand (in his Rashid persona, and that doesn't feel like a good omen, putting on a false face in front of the furies) is blocking the one on the right almost completely. HE wants to sell the Bacon Triptych, take it down off the wall. That's because... Armand doesn't WANT Louis' pain front and center. The last thing we hear him say to Louis is "One night, 70 years ago. You are over this, Louis! The pain of it has left you (...) You have forgiven me for what part I played in her death!"
After he successfully sells the triptych, Louis and Armand have this conversation in front of the blank wall:
ARMAND: The two Barcelos would fit. LOUIS: If we replaced the couch. ARMAND: I assumed we would. LOUIS: The couch, then the table, then the Antieau Javelina, then, then, then, then. ARMAND: How about the Ai Weiwei wallpaper with the Hockney lemons? LOUIS: Like we're a Firmdale hotel lobby? ARMAND: Okay, what do you think we should do with the wall? LOUIS: What about a selection of Fred Steins, tastefully framed? They've been sitting in my albums all this time, seems a waste. Or better not to have so tangible a reminder of Paris up on our walls? ARMAND: An interview about Paris is a more tangible reminder of Paris than a few photographs. LOUIS: Huh. Leave it bare then. Wait for revelation to enter the room.
It's unclear what Armand means by "the two Barcelos" so I get to speculate. I think we're talking about Miquel Barceló, and I also think we're talking about his sculptures rather than his paintings, because of the reference to moving the couch. Which you would DEFINITELY do if you were moving in sculptures, but probably not if you were hanging a painting. Especially since it's a really neutral, charcoal grey couch.
Also, the fact that it's TWO Barcelos mean that I'm looking for sculptures that are part of set, and the famous Barcelo sculpture series is "Metamorphosis."
And I dunno. This seems pretty Armand coded to me. Metamorphosis as a concept is very Armand, with all his shifting identities, but I'm also getting *hunger* from this, I'm getting *damage,* I'm getting shaky foundation... and the shaky foundation, it's built out of corrupted Roman pillars (cough marius de romanus cough.) So, if the Bacon triptych symbolizes Louis' pain, maybe this symbolizes Armand's pain (and his interiority, his backstory.) It's his first pick after all.
But Louis says no, shuts it down. Armand's next suggestion is pretty straightforward. The Ai Weiwei "Wallpaper" piece is all about imprisonment and surveillance.
And David Hockney, important figure of post-war pop art, painted mid-century American scenes that at first glance seem to be bright, clean, and happy... but have a sort of melancholy, suburban malaise underneath the surface. He's really famous for his paintings of swimming pools.
But he also painted a lot of lemons. I think it's because we've got that bright yellow on the outside, hiding an underlying bitterness.
So, this pair of artworks is Armand saying "can we continue on as we have been?" (me keeping you superficially happy in my "prison of empathy.") And Louis says no, because he's recovered his memories at this point, he's getting wise to Armand's deceptions.
Then Louis suggests (a little sarcastically) that they should hang the Fred Stein photographs that Armand has been slipping into his portfolio. We're never explicitly told WHY Armand is doing this - pretty weird thing, but I think it's got to do with memory, and the David Hockney superficial happiness of it all. Armand wants Louis to remember a Paris that was better than it was, more romantic than it was (where Louis was a better photographer than he was...) But that story isn't reflected in Louis' photographs, so Armand... fixes it. 'Cleans up the mess' (the way he always does.)
So, Louis wanting to put that 'Fred Stein' lie front and center is a call out. He's saying that he wants to focus on Paris (with Daniel) and remind himself of Armand's lie. So, a way to interpret this conversation is Armand saying "can we focus on my damage/past/interiority/pain," Louis saying no. Then Armand saying "can we keep things status quo?" and Louis saying no. Then Louis says "can we focus on the truth of Paris." And Armand says no. At which point, Louis says he wants to wait for "revelation to enter the room." AND - we cut to this shot.
Revelation HAS entered the room (its name is Daniel Molloy.) Because Daniel of course breaks the case wide open, exposes Armand, and helps Louis process the pain he's had since that first shot.
Pictured - Louis processing pain. By throwing Armand at the living room wall.
The NEXT time we see the wall, it looks like this --
Louis has introduced color back into his life (also lot of yellow. which is a very *Claudia* color.)
The new painting is "Shelter" by contemporary artist Peter Jerrod Macon, and it's of a mother embracing a child. (confirmed by production designer Mara LePere Schloop.) SO - Louis is no longer defined by his pain like he was at the beginning of season one, when he was the Virgin Mary watching a child die. Now he's defined by the *love* he feels for his child.
It's also a very large painting. So, I like to think that the crack in the wall is still there, underneath it. As Louis says in Paris, he hangs art to "cover up the cracks in the walls." That pain and damage is still a part of Louis, but now he's able to build over it.
RIP David Hockney. I hope you enjoyed the way the vampires were using your art as a metaphor for their relationship.