Chakotay/Janeway Treatise

"The woman warrior was brave, and beautiful, and very wise. The angry warrior swore to himself that he would stay by her side, doing whatever he could to make her burden lighter. From that point on, her needs would come first. And in that way, the warrior began to know the true meaning of peace."

[icantimagineadaywithoutyou]

My Captain poll made me feel curious about first officers, so here goes. Chronological order again.

Favorite First Officer?

Spock

William T. Riker

Kira Nerys

Chakotay

T'Pol

Saru

Michael Burnham

Jack Ransom

Una Chin-Riley

Voting ended onApr 18

Yes I know Kira isn't technically Sisko's first officer but that's sort of the vibe imo.

It did feel a little weird to include Saru and Michael on this poll as well as my Captain poll, but they did both spend significant time as first officers on Discovery so 🤷‍♀️

This poll will likely gain much less traction than the Captain poll, but I wanted to do it anyway. I suspect it'll be a lot less contested than the other, but I'm not sure.

[clementine-kesh]

voyager episode where the a-plot is janeway, chakotay, and tuvok maneuvering through some diplomatically delicate philosophically ponderous negotiations while the b-plot is tom, harry, b’elanna, and seven doing the hangover but in space

[paksthestoic]

I didn’t always like the idea of Janeway becoming an Admiral after bringing Voyager home. But I think I can see it.

I could see Kathryn Janeway returning to the Alpha Quadrant in the wake of the Dominion War and a lot of her fellow captains thinking she had it easy by “getting her ship lost”. And then the ship’s logs start hitting general access after the debriefings are over. (The same way Janeway was able to pull other captain’s logs for reference).

And her fellow rank-and-file get the logs dealing with the Borg, the Hirogen, Species 8472, the Vidiians, the telepathic pitcher plant, the macrovirus, what have you. And combining all that with making the journey in seven years and the fact that the entire Voyager crew is now a highly trained influx of fresh staffing after the Dominion War, with seven years of Janeway’s desperate insistence on Starfleet morals informing them?

Suddenly Janeway’s crew is captains and commanders and lieutenants, and she’s this Teddy Roosevelt-esque figure in Starfleet in that she’s revered for her leadership but also considered the type of admirably insane that wins wars.

And right about this time Janeway is looking at how Starfleet principles - the very same principles she clung to for her own sanity for seven years - have distorted and changed to be more war-like after the Dominion took so many lives, and she’s thinking “???? have you all??? gone mad???? you know what, yeah, put me in charge.”

The admiralty thinks they’re pulling one over on her by getting her innovative/insane mind to accept a desk job. Jokes on them, after seven years of being an absolute authority on Starfleet principles wherever she goes, she’s perfectly happy to be back in a spot where she can’t be outranked.

[icantimagineadaywithoutyou]

I have yet to finish DS9(only halfway through s2) and I greatly look forward to re-reading this post after I've seen it all, because it's brilliant even without full knowledge of what happened ❤️💯

[icantimagineadaywithoutyou]

Crushed to learn that Starfleet Academy was considering a sequel to "Living Witness" if it had been renewed for a third season. I was actually hoping that that might happen. We could've had an epic Doctor vs Doctor episode but noooooo

[icantimagineadaywithoutyou]

Putting these in chronological order by when the series aired so I don't bias this poll with my own opinion.

Favorite Starfleet Captain?

James T. Kirk

Jean-Luc Picard

Benjamin Sisko

Kathryn Janeway

Jonathan Archer

Saru

Michael Burnham

Carol Freeman

Christopher Pike(SNW)

Nahla Ake

Voting ended onApr 9

Yes I'm aware there have been more Captains than this but I had to stop somewhere lol

[yuuthedestroyer]

Okay but Starfleet Academy is the most "Star Trek" that a Star Trek show has felt since Voyager. I was not prepared to be into it, but it has those Star Trek bits! Starfleet as the ideal (even when it's not, the positive changes that are able to happen!), grappling with big themes, understanding and cooperation solving problems over violence, flawed people fucking up and trying to do better... And so many nods to the old series' without being annoying!

And this time it's in the package of, not a disciplined crew, but a bunch of chucklefuck college kids. It's like DS9 turned up to 11. All the adults are there, but there are also 200 Jakes and Nogs at their worst.

"Oh but Yuu, the dialogue is a bit clunky." It's Star Trek that is part of the fun.

"Oh but Yuu, there is woke." It's Star Trek, yes.

"Oh but Yuu, the characters do dumb/bad/etc shit." Yes. That is the point. It's so they can get better. Be friends anyways. Discuss and learn. Etc. See: Star Trek.

If you fuckers don't get on board with this and it gets cancelled after season 2, I will be so sad.

[icantimagineadaywithoutyou]

😭😭😭😭

[itsyourvoiceuseit]

This is a link to a petition to renew Starfleet Academy. I beg you all to sign it. This show is amazing.

We Can Make an Impact.

Renew ‘Star Trek: Starfleet Academy’ for a third season

[the-unflappablewolf]

Who would you trust more?

total stranger in a star trek shirt?

total stranger in a star wars shirt?

Voting ended onFeb 25

[squidinkblot]

The way I could write an entire feminist manifesto on why we’re all in agreement about this

[icantimagineadaywithoutyou]

DO IT

[itsyourvoiceuseit]

If you want to join a Jay-Den/Darem discord server that's solely devoted to them(no discussion of wishing for Kyd*n or a triad--I'm very tired of that--and it'll also be a safe space to criticize those ships or simply talk about why they aren't being set up), like this post. I'll wait a couple of days before making the server, but people are always welcome to ask to join.

[icantimagineadaywithoutyou]

Reblogging this here for any followers of mine on this blog who are interested.

[borgbot]

Do you think other cultures in Star Trek ever make fun of Starfleet for their uniforms?

Like, “Oh look boys, here comes the color wheel”

[jennelikejennay]

One alien: now don't be judgemental, probably humans just can't see colors very well. To them those colors are classy and muted

Random telepath: oh no, those colors are actually MORE garish to humans 😅

[bajuuuu]

You laugh until the ship is on fire you can’t see a damn thing and searching for a bright red or bright yellow uniform is what saved your life!

[jennelikejennay]

Nice to think that someday we outgrow the nervous cringefear that caused the epidemic of drabness in the 1800s which is still going on today. Someday we will no longer feel stupid being the brightest colored bird in the forest.

[itsyourvoiceuseit]

Would anyone be interested in joining a Darem/Jay-Den discord server? It'd be nice to get to obsess over every crumb in each episode, both those already aired and as they come out.

And, since I've finally fully accepted that I no longer ship Jay-Den with Kyle, including in a triad, this server would be solely dedicated to Darem/Jay-Den(I'm going with Jay-Mi as a ship name). Not Kyd*n or a triad. I tried very hard to keep shipping the triad since I mostly like the little I've seen of Kyle and I've been poly irl for over 16 years, but I just can't anymore. I'm simply not feeling Kyd*n in any form(which in my defense is what I think the show wants).

So yeah. Just Jay-Mi.

[icantimagineadaywithoutyou]

Reblogging on here jic bc I have more followers here.

[suekay]

Chakotay: *Leaves Starfleet in protest, feeling that they've betrayed their principles* Chakotay: *Joins the Maquis to protect his people since Starfleet won't* Chakotay: *Finds himself and his crew stuck in the Delta Quadrant* Chakotay: *Meets Kathryn Janeway, trusts her immediately even though he knows she was sent to capture him* Chakotay: *Destroys his ship to protect hers* Chakotay: *Hears her decision to destroy the array to protect the Ocampa, realises she embodies the Starfleet he loved* Chakotay: *Is confident he's made the right decision to destroy his ship, pledges to do everything he can to help her* Chakotay: *Is invited into Janeway's ready room and offered the position of first officer* Chakotay: *Realises Janeway's probably mentally ill, and also quite mad* Chakotay: *Realises he's fallen head over heels in love with her already* Chakotay: *Zero regrets*

[icantimagineadaywithoutyou]

💯

[the-unflappablewolf]

Who would you trust more?

total stranger in a star trek shirt?

total stranger in a star wars shirt?

Voting ended onFeb 25

[grendil2]

Extremely powerful results.

[paraskienia-deactivated20260520]

Somebody explain I live under a rock I just picked star trek for funsies

[alocalpizzadruid]

space communism

[paraskienia-deactivated20260520]

Now I'm more confused

[icantimagineadaywithoutyou]

A better answer is that Star Trek is all about exploring the galaxy and trying to understand those who are different and find common ground. So much of all of the shows involves the characters trying to make peace with their enemies and avoid conflict, and ideally turn enemies into friends. Janeway, my favorite Captain, is particularly devoted to and adept at this. Most of the time Star Trek is strongly averse to the notion that any one species is universally evil. Star Wars is much more about good vs evil. It's more likely to promote black and white thinking and tribalism. If someone who's super into Star Wars thinks you're different from them, they're less likely to want to help you than someone who's super into Star Trek.

Mind you these are just averages. Not everyone is going to be the same. But it's telling that most of us who voted in this poll seem to have come to the same conclusion about who is the most trustworthy.

[icantimagineadaywithoutyou]

It occurs to me that the divide is likely more political than anything else. Queueing this for after my generational poll ends. Same disclaimers-Enjoyment is relative but limited poll options limits nuance, so this is about basic enjoyment. Don't vote unless you've seen at least three eps. And I'm aware politics is different in every country, so it's difficult to make a perfect poll in this regard, but go with what feels most right to you.

Do you enjoy Starfleet Academy? Where do you lie on the political spectrum?

Left leaning-I enjoy it

Left leaning-I don't enjoy it

Centrist-I enjoy it

Centrist-I don't enjoy it

Right leaning-I enjoy it

Right leaning-I don't enjoy it

Apolitical-I enjoy it

Apolitical-I don't enjoy it

Results

Voting ended onFeb 24

Please reblog so people with different political views from mine get to vote!

[stephanemiroux]

Yesssssss, we love to see it.

[icantimagineadaywithoutyou]

Kate Mulgrew said we won't have no fucking misogyny on my watch

[itsyourvoiceuseit]

Are you invested in Caleb and Tarima's relationship?

Yes, they're OTP level

Yes, but not to the OTP extreme

Somewhat, but I find other pairings more interesting

Somewhat, but I'm not really into romance

No, not really

I actively hate when they're on screen together

Voting ended onFeb 20

People seem divided on them and I'd really like to get an idea of how the fandom on Tumblr feels about their relationship, so please reblog if you would be so inclined 😘 Especially since if only my followers see this it'll be less likely that I'll hear from people who ship them.

[icantimagineadaywithoutyou]

I'm curious about the generational divide when it comes to Starfleet Academy. Which means it's poll time! If you're on the cusp of a generation, just pick the one you vibe with more. And yes, I know that enjoyment is relative, but tumblr only allows 12 poll options so nuance is limited. This is just about your overall feeling regarding the whole show. Don't vote if you haven't seen at least the first three eps. The show changes and deepens greatly but in a way that feels realistic(to me), and I don't want people who only watched the first ep and threw it away to skew the poll. I might make a different poll asking about people who stopped after or during ep 1 later.

Do you enjoy Starfleet Academy? What generation are you in?

Boomer-I enjoy it

Boomer-I don't enjoy it

Gen X-I enjoy it

Gen X-I don't enjoy it

Millennial-I enjoy it

Millennial-I don't enjoy it

Gen Z-I enjoy it

Gen Z-I don't enjoy it

Gen Alpha-I enjoy it

Gen Alpha-I don't enjoy it

Results

Voting ended onFeb 17

Please reblog so I can get everyone's opinions!